Newbie: tar.gz files how to unpack

I tried “tar -t filename.tar.gz”
nothing happened

I think i really dont know what i`m doing.
Is there a graphical program for this.

Can the package manager handle those files ?

Thanks

PS: I think there will be a lot of newbie questions like this one in the coming months, please be patient with us.

I tried “tar -t filename.tar.gz”
nothing happened

There might be a more elegant way of doing it, but you run gunzip -d
filename.tar.gz. That file is unzipped into a tarball. Then you can run
tar -xvmf (don’t know exactly what that does, but that’s how my friend does
it) filename.tar, and it’ll work fine.

-Adam

kosh ← kosh@moncourrier.com> writes:

I tried “tar -t filename.tar.gz”
nothing happened

To list the contents:
zcat filename.tar.gz | tar tvf -

To unpack (relative to the current directory)
zcat filename.tar.gz | tar xf -

Is there a graphical program for this.

I don’t believe so.

Can the package manager handle those files ?

I don’t believe so.


Andrew

you have to unzip the file first with a
“gunzip file.tar.gz”
then untar with
“tar xfv file.tar”
also tgz files are the same only
“gunzip file.tgz” will turn it into file.tar ready to be un-tared
“kosh” ← kosh@moncourrier.com> wrote in message
news:Voyager.000927121949.708643B@default…

I tried “tar -t filename.tar.gz”
nothing happened

I think i really dont know what i`m doing.
Is there a graphical program for this.

Can the package manager handle those files ?

Thanks

PS: I think there will be a lot of newbie questions like this one in the
coming months, please be patient with us.

Mark wrote:

you have to unzip the file first with a
“gunzip file.tar.gz”
then untar with
“tar xfv file.tar”
also tgz files are the same only
“gunzip file.tgz” will turn it into file.tar ready to be un-tared

Thanks to all, i managed to make it work. Qnx tar does not seem to need
gunzip since the file extracted just with
tar -xvf file.tar.gz
which was the phicq program.

many many things to learn just to use it, how much to program on it?
there seems to be a lot of stuff needed for RTP.
These are incredible times for people interrested in Os’s.
Keep it up QSSL, this seems to me to be very impressive work.

I feel a little sorry with the people who have trouble configuring there
hardware in this windows world. I’ve been lucky with Abit MB, celeron,
SBpci128 and Ati rage128, everything works out of the box, Beos, Linux,
now Qnx and even Windows.

How good could Qnx be in Video capture and editing? or just plain Tv
watching. I’m kind of addicted to Tv + browsing on my computer. I was
quite surprised to find a program on Beos that made my Ati isa tuner
work. At this early point i dont expect this of Qnxrtp but what do i
know?

I tried “tar -t filename.tar.gz”
nothing happened

To list the contents:
zcat filename.tar.gz | tar tvf -

gunzip -c filename.tar.gz | tar tv



To unpack (relative to the current directory)
zcat filename.tar.gz | tar xf -

gunzip -c filename.tar.gz | tar xv



Is there a graphical program for this.

I don’t believe so.

Winzip on Windows… > :wink:

I guess there’s a X-Window program with GUI. You can try running it on QNX
RtP…

Can the package manager handle those files ?

I don’t believe so.


Andrew

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Kosh wrote:
Thanks to all, i managed to make it work. Qnx tar does not seem to need
gunzip since the file extracted just with
tar -xvf file.tar.gz
which was the phicq program.
do you meant "tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz" ? :wink:))

--
BR, Andrej
 

In MacOS X Public Beta, Apple, or the folks programming Darwin (the open source base layer of MacOS X) added a z flag
to tar that makes it so simple:

tar xvzf filename.tar.gz or tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz

follow the other suggestions in this thread for QNX, though.

t = (t)able of contents
x= e(x)tract
c= (c)reate
v=(v)erbose
f=(f)ilename to operate on

and in MacOS X PB

z=gun(z)ip before operating tar on the file

the “-” is optional in most implementations

kosh wrote:

I tried “tar -t filename.tar.gz”
nothing happened

I think i really dont know what i`m doing.
Is there a graphical program for this.

Can the package manager handle those files ?

Thanks

PS: I think there will be a lot of newbie questions like this one in the coming months, please be patient with us.

Andrej Timchenko wrote:

Kosh wrote:

Thanks to all, i managed to make it work. Qnx tar does not seem to
need
gunzip since the file extracted just with
tar -xvf file.tar.gz
which was the phicq program.

do you meant “tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz” ? > :wink:> ))


BR, Andrej

Yeah exactly but i was posting from Netscape so i could not remember
exactly.

“J. Scott Franko” wrote:

In MacOS X Public Beta, Apple, or the folks programming Darwin (the open source base layer of MacOS X) added a z flag
to tar that makes it so simple:

tar xvzf filename.tar.gz or tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz

follow the other suggestions in this thread for QNX, though.

t = (t)able of contents
x= e(x)tract
c= (c)reate
v=(v)erbose
f=(f)ilename to operate on

and in MacOS X PB

z=gun(z)ip before operating tar on the file

the “-” is optional in most implementations

The “z” option did work, so it must be implemented in QnxRtp “tar” or is
it a partial implementation ?

Why does a GUI extractor for compressed files is always the last thing
to be invented in new Gui OS’s, is it a pain to program such a thing or
programmers just dont have any use for such things ?

Where should one unpack such a file, and is there a command for instructing
the OS on where to unpack it? I download all of my files onto a special
downloads folder on a Windows partition…

Daryl


“Andrew Thomas” <andrew@cogent.ca> wrote in message
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kosh <-> kosh@moncourrier.com> > writes:

I tried “tar -t filename.tar.gz”
nothing happened

To list the contents:
zcat filename.tar.gz | tar tvf -

To unpack (relative to the current directory)
zcat filename.tar.gz | tar xf -

Is there a graphical program for this.

I don’t believe so.

Can the package manager handle those files ?

I don’t believe so.


Andrew

<< Why does a GUI extractor for compressed files is always the last thing
to be invented in new Gui OS’s, is it a pain to program such a thing or
programmers just dont have any use for such things ? >> (Kosh)

It’s a shame, isn’t it? I spent hours last night trying to figure out how
to install a few programmes that I had downloaded, and I couldn’t
successfully install even one of them. First, I discovered that one CANNOT
have the source file in a non-QNX (i.e. fs) folder, as QNX does not
recognise such directories in terminal mode. I therefore moved those QNX
download files to a new downloads folder that I created in /usr/. I then
managed to successfully decompress an abiword file, but that decompression
resulted in a file that was itself evidently compressed (qpk), and I had no
idea what to do with it. I later moved one of those downloaded files to
root/repository, thinking that maybe that would be the correct folder to
decompress from. From it, I apparently successfully decompressed
aim.nto.gz, but I couldn’t locate where its decompressed contents had been
placed. I found an install.msg file under the /root/ directory, but I
couldn’t find any of the files that it referred to. They supposedly begin
with the pathname .photon. I think I looked in every photon folder in QNX,
and I found no AIM files. Unfortunately, QNX’s file manager doesn’t have a
find function, which is absolutely stupid.

I’m getting too frustrated with QNX. It’s bad enough that I don’t have
sound and I can’t install any programmes; I can’t even download any files
into QNX’s package manager because QNX keeps on dropping my connections
(when I actually manage to connect). On top of that, my ‘shelves’ are
temperamental, so I’m always having to press the Windows key to bring them
up, or re-size the window on top. I think QNX has a lot of promise, but
this little OS is a bit too buggy. It shouldn’t have been released like
this…

Daryl


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“Daryl O.” <d*rylo@usa.net> wrote:

Why does a GUI extractor for compressed files is always the last thing
to be invented in new Gui OS’s, is it a pain to program such a thing or
programmers just dont have any use for such things ? >> (Kosh)

It’s a shame, isn’t it? I spent hours last night trying to figure out how
to install a few programmes that I had downloaded, and I couldn’t
successfully install even one of them. First, I discovered that one CANNOT
have the source file in a non-QNX (i.e. fs) folder, as QNX does not
recognise such directories in terminal mode. I therefore moved those QNX
download files to a new downloads folder that I created in /usr/. I then
managed to successfully decompress an abiword file, but that decompression
resulted in a file that was itself evidently compressed (qpk), and I had no
idea what to do with it. I later moved one of those downloaded files to
root/repository, thinking that maybe that would be the correct folder to
decompress from. From it, I apparently successfully decompressed
aim.nto.gz, but I couldn’t locate where its decompressed contents had been
placed. I found an install.msg file under the /root/ directory, but I
couldn’t find any of the files that it referred to. They supposedly begin
with the pathname .photon. I think I looked in every photon folder in QNX,
and I found no AIM files. Unfortunately, QNX’s file manager doesn’t have a
find function, which is absolutely stupid.

I’m getting too frustrated with QNX. It’s bad enough that I don’t have
sound and I can’t install any programmes; I can’t even download any files
into QNX’s package manager because QNX keeps on dropping my connections
(when I actually manage to connect). On top of that, my ‘shelves’ are
temperamental, so I’m always having to press the Windows key to bring them
up, or re-size the window on top. I think QNX has a lot of promise, but
this little OS is a bit too buggy. It shouldn’t have been released like
this…

Daryl


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DARYL O. > darylo@usa.net

as I said, it’s cute and has promise, but I still wait for an answer to two
questions:

is there a cs4232 driver for qnxrtp and regarding untar, consider going to a
linux ftp archive and getting a gzipped version of the man pages because tar
among other commandline beasts are in there.

My second question: saw a link for rpm 3.0 for qnx, assuming someone has gotten
this thing working, what are it’s limitations, if I dare to dream you could rpm
a linux program directly into qnx using this if x in photon could handle things
like that, you’ve just greatly increased the amount of software for qnx.

It’s not a matter of new GUI’s not building the tools. It’s the difference
between the Unix world and the consumer desktop world. Unix has long been the
realm of the highly technical. Forget whether its usable by your average joe
consumer. The question is, does it do cool things in the eye’s of a computer
geek. These guys are responsible for major innovations in computer power, and
technical tools. Not user friendly GUI tools. They are one end of the
spectrum.

The other end has been the Macintosh, and to a smaller extent (IMHO), Windows
(The consumer versions, not NT and 2000). The intent here, is screw the
technical aspects. Lets make the this thing as easy as possible for joe
consumer, and sally notech, to use. Give them art/design programs, give them
office tools, give them checkbook programs. They don’t want to be wowed by the
computer technology, they want to be wowed by what the computer can do for them
in their often non technical endeavors.

Now the two extremes are starting to attempt to meet in the middle. The highly
technical Unix’s (like QNX and Linux and Solaris) are attempting to adopt a
friendly GUI (maybe not all the way towards checkbook programs, but at least
some tools that make things easier), and the consumer OS’s are trying to become
more technical, like MacOS X, rebasing itself on variants of Unix. Because
this trend is in its infancy, there’s boud to be trouble, as people come in
expecting things to be marvelous, and things are only half marvelous.

So I guess, what I am saying, is, if you thought this new QRTP was going to be
a romp in the park new replacment for your windows or Mac OS desktop, think
again. Lower your expectations. This QRTP is being targeted as a nice to use
development platform for embedded software engineers, who happen to also like
playing with cool toys like GUI MP3 players, and who want to develop in a
desktop environment with RAD tools, rather than a command line terminal hooked
up to an embedded system. At least that’s what I have gathered. If it takes
off, and people develop for it as a consumer desktop, and open a new market for
it, perhaps QSSL will love that. Then again perhaps not. It might be too much
expansion, to fast for them.

If you want desktop, visit windows Me (ha!), or better yet, check out the beta
of MacOS X ($29.95US at http://store.apple.com/), if you want to see the future
of the ultimate in user friendly, combined with the Unix command line. You
will run into some of the same problem there that you are running into here
(it is a beta after all, just like QRTP, and it is Unix), but you can keep away
from that if you want. For instance, the Omni Group’s web browser (OmniWeb
http://www.omnigroup.com/) can be installed with a tar.gz, as you are
complaining about here, but it can also be downloaded and installed with a
Stuffit Expander compressed package, with just two double clicks, and a great
GUI installer.

Be thankful, if you like this kind of stuff, that QSSL has allowed you to see
there OS in such an early state of development. Go with the flow. It’ll get
better. In the meantime, if you need a fairly solid realtime OS, buy QNX4.25.

Scott

“Daryl O.” wrote:

Why does a GUI extractor for compressed files is always the last thing
to be invented in new Gui OS’s, is it a pain to program such a thing or
programmers just dont have any use for such things ? >> (Kosh)

It’s a shame, isn’t it? I spent hours last night trying to figure out how
to install a few programmes that I had downloaded, and I couldn’t
successfully install even one of them. First, I discovered that one CANNOT
have the source file in a non-QNX (i.e. fs) folder, as QNX does not
recognise such directories in terminal mode. I therefore moved those QNX
download files to a new downloads folder that I created in /usr/. I then
managed to successfully decompress an abiword file, but that decompression
resulted in a file that was itself evidently compressed (qpk), and I had no
idea what to do with it. I later moved one of those downloaded files to
root/repository, thinking that maybe that would be the correct folder to
decompress from. From it, I apparently successfully decompressed
aim.nto.gz, but I couldn’t locate where its decompressed contents had been
placed. I found an install.msg file under the /root/ directory, but I
couldn’t find any of the files that it referred to. They supposedly begin
with the pathname .photon. I think I looked in every photon folder in QNX,
and I found no AIM files. Unfortunately, QNX’s file manager doesn’t have a
find function, which is absolutely stupid.

I’m getting too frustrated with QNX. It’s bad enough that I don’t have
sound and I can’t install any programmes; I can’t even download any files
into QNX’s package manager because QNX keeps on dropping my connections
(when I actually manage to connect). On top of that, my ‘shelves’ are
temperamental, so I’m always having to press the Windows key to bring them
up, or re-size the window on top. I think QNX has a lot of promise, but
this little OS is a bit too buggy. It shouldn’t have been released like
this…

Daryl


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DARYL O. > darylo@usa.net

You won’t get a great response by burying your questions in a thread title that has
no relation to them. Try posting these two questions with a thread title of their
own. Then be patient. I’m sure this is all a bit overwhelming for QSSL right now.

Scott

sinister-catsup wrote:

as I said, it’s cute and has promise, but I still wait for an answer to two
questions:

is there a cs4232 driver for qnxrtp and regarding untar, consider going to a
linux ftp archive and getting a gzipped version of the man pages because tar
among other commandline beasts are in there.

My second question: saw a link for rpm 3.0 for qnx, assuming someone has gotten
this thing working, what are it’s limitations, if I dare to dream you could rpm
a linux program directly into qnx using this if x in photon could handle things
like that, you’ve just greatly increased the amount of software for qnx.