Loading QNX onto DiskOnChip

I am new to QNX and I am trying to install QNX 4.25 onto a DiskOnChip for
use in a Real Time Devices IDAN system. I want the DiskOnChip to be the
only “drive” in the system. I have followed the instructions I found at
QDN and M-Systems, and I have the system currently setup up with a hard-
drive, floppy, and cdrom. I have installed QNX to the hard-drive, per
the instructions, and I have the system recognizing the DiskOnChip but I
am completely lost on how to install QNX onto the DOC. I am installing
from a cd. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Ross

Ross Brantner <brantner@innernet.net> wrote:
: I am new to QNX and I am trying to install QNX 4.25 onto a DiskOnChip for
: use in a Real Time Devices IDAN system. I want the DiskOnChip to be the
: only “drive” in the system. I have followed the instructions I found at
: QDN and M-Systems, and I have the system currently setup up with a hard-
: drive, floppy, and cdrom. I have installed QNX to the hard-drive, per
: the instructions, and I have the system recognizing the DiskOnChip but I
: am completely lost on how to install QNX onto the DOC. I am installing
: from a cd. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

: Thanks,

: Ross


Hi Ross,

You will need to create a boot image with the Fsys.diskonchip in it
(instead of Fsys.eide). There are notes on how to build the image in
the qdn and in the QNX4 Installation and configuration manual.

Then you will have to dinit the doc and copy the boot image to it.
Finally, copy thr files that you will need for your system to it.

Basically, this is a manuall installation. This is documented in qdn at:

http://qdn.qnx.com/support/bok/solution.qnx?5051

Donald

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Ross,

The M-Systems web site www.m-sys.com has online technical support and a
download area which includes documents that detail installing QNX onto
a DiskOnChip as a bootable device. It has worked for us using MD2200-D08
but not for the MD2800-D08 which is supposed to be operationally identical.
I posted a question to this group about some of the problems we experienced
but have not heard any responses so we may be an isolated case.

Good luck.

-Paul

Ross Brantner wrote:

I am new to QNX and I am trying to install QNX 4.25 onto a DiskOnChip for
use in a Real Time Devices IDAN system. I want the DiskOnChip to be the
only “drive” in the system. I have followed the instructions I found at
QDN and M-Systems, and I have the system currently setup up with a hard-
drive, floppy, and cdrom. I have installed QNX to the hard-drive, per
the instructions, and I have the system recognizing the DiskOnChip but I
am completely lost on how to install QNX onto the DOC. I am installing
from a cd. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Ross

Hi,

Hope this helps,

Regards,
Zeljko

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----- Original Message -----
From: “Zeljko Fucek” <veliki@istar.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.os.qnx
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 15:41
Subject: Re: Diskonchip Installation problems


This is what I did:

h/w: Advantech SBC 4823, DOC2000 48Mb (lucky me …)
s/w: QNX4 CD (Dec. 1999)

  1. Installed QNX (OS, Photon, TCP/IP, all without Help) on hd0’s 48Mb
    primary partition
    (~7Mb were still free after that), and configured Photon and TCP/IP
  2. Followed the steps 2.1. - 2.6., 3.1. - 3.9. in the M-Sys “Using the DOC
    with QNX” (they worked as
    described)
  3. Copied all files from hd0’s / (except /dev, /cd0, /dos, /mnt) to
    /mnt/diskonchip/ (make sure to
    use proper cp command switches in order to preserve directory structure
    and links)
  4. From 3.12.:

cd /boot

make b=doc2000

cp /boot/images/doc2000 /mnt/diskonchip/.boot

  1. Removed hd0 from the BIOS and rebooted
  2. Deleted all unnecessary files from the DOC to gain more space

I suggest you to look at > www.deja.com > for previous discussion about
embedding QNX/Photon on smaller DOC.

Zeljko

Anup B Katake <> abk7439@aero.tamu.edu> > wrote in message
news:> 3930F533.DD8E9716@aero.tamu.edu> …
Hi,
I am trying to install QNX onto the DOC2000. I have an EVB which resides
on the main PC which is running QNX4.25. I have tried to apply the
procedure outlined by M-Sys under “Using the DOC with QNX”…however it
fails when I try to install the QNX files onto it.

The problems are many but to start with there is a problem with the
duplicate boot disk that is to be made. When such a disk is made…(using
diskcopy…) it contains no /bin directory. So the reference to copy
files like “Fsys.diskonchip, dformat…” to /bin is incorrect. Thus I
created a /bin and transferred the files onto it.
I also made DOC the first drive to be booted using “dupdate…”. However
upon booting with this new disk , I reach the command prompt which is
the normal QNX prompt (during normal bootup…) and the command “dformat”
does not execute, returning the error “dformat: not found” .

Also if I do not use the new disk and boot without one, then the system
tries to load the QNX OS from the DOC but hangs because it does not find
anything to load…(?)…

QNX recognises the DOC all the time but still dformat does not work,
however ./dformat does…

Could someone please help me on this?..
Thanks in advance…

Anup
Texas A & M University

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“Ross Brantner” <brantner@innernet.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.144e7d482cfdaeca989680@inn.qnx.com

I am new to QNX and I am trying to install QNX 4.25 onto a DiskOnChip for
use in a Real Time Devices IDAN system. I want the DiskOnChip to be the
only “drive” in the system. I have followed the instructions I found at
QDN and M-Systems, and I have the system currently setup up with a hard-
drive, floppy, and cdrom. I have installed QNX to the hard-drive, per
the instructions, and I have the system recognizing the DiskOnChip but I
am completely lost on how to install QNX onto the DOC. I am installing
from a cd. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Ross

paull@ifsreg.com (Paul N. Leonard) wrote in
<39E4BD10.5FC90770@ifsreg.com>:

Ross,

The M-Systems web site > www.m-sys.com > has online technical support and a
download area which includes documents that detail installing QNX onto
a DiskOnChip as a bootable device. It has worked for us using MD2200-D08
but not for the MD2800-D08 which is supposed to be operationally
identical. I posted a question to this group about some of the problems
we experienced but have not heard any responses so we may be an isolated
case.

Not entirely isolated. We’ve had the same trouble with the MD2800-D08.
I contacted M-Systems and played email shuffle-board with them for a
while. Their general reponse was “Well, it should work???”. It’s been a
few months since I looked at this, but I think they were having me trying
to install DOS and that wasn’t working well either. I will need to look
at this again soon…maybe we can compare notes.

L8R

I have seen this happen too on DOC 2000. One thing you have to make sure is
for partitionning of the DOC. I have found that partitionning a DOC 2000
works well, but you cannot boot from a DOC that has anything else than a
full size partition without getting the infinite ?

M-Systems told me back in the beguining of the year that it would be fixed
with their latest driver… but the release that came after that failed to
fix the problem.

Anyhow, verify your partitionning of the DOC, it could be the problem.

Gregory Fedor <gfedor@grc.nasa.gov> wrote in message
news:8FCB5A269gfedorgrcnasagov@139.88.52.67

paull@ifsreg.com > (Paul N. Leonard) wrote in
39E4BD10.5FC90770@ifsreg.com> >:

Ross,

The M-Systems web site > www.m-sys.com > has online technical support and a
download area which includes documents that detail installing QNX onto
a DiskOnChip as a bootable device. It has worked for us using MD2200-D08
but not for the MD2800-D08 which is supposed to be operationally
identical. I posted a question to this group about some of the problems
we experienced but have not heard any responses so we may be an isolated
case.

Not entirely isolated. We’ve had the same trouble with the MD2800-D08.
I contacted M-Systems and played email shuffle-board with them for a
while. Their general reponse was “Well, it should work???”. It’s been a
few months since I looked at this, but I think they were having me trying
to install DOS and that wasn’t working well either. I will need to look
at this again soon…maybe we can compare notes.

L8R

It worked in my system for the MD2800-D08. I’ve followed the instructions in
the document IM-DOC-016 Aug-2000.
“Paul N. Leonard” wrote:

Ross,

The M-Systems web site > www.m-sys.com > has online technical support and a
download area which includes documents that detail installing QNX onto
a DiskOnChip as a bootable device. It has worked for us using MD2200-D08
but not for the MD2800-D08 which is supposed to be operationally identical.
I posted a question to this group about some of the problems we experienced
but have not heard any responses so we may be an isolated case.

Good luck.

-Paul

Ross Brantner wrote:

I am new to QNX and I am trying to install QNX 4.25 onto a DiskOnChip for
use in a Real Time Devices IDAN system. I want the DiskOnChip to be the
only “drive” in the system. I have followed the instructions I found at
QDN and M-Systems, and I have the system currently setup up with a hard-
drive, floppy, and cdrom. I have installed QNX to the hard-drive, per
the instructions, and I have the system recognizing the DiskOnChip but I
am completely lost on how to install QNX onto the DOC. I am installing
from a cd. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Ross