Net.tulip: Old Driver, New Hardware

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I have an embedded cPCI system which has
the ethernet chip 21143 integrated onto the CPU
card. After witnessing occasional slow network
response, the Net.tulip driver was upgraded to the
latest available, 4.25P.

Now performance is okay for the first couple of
hours or so, then degrades noticeably thereafter.
If it is left to run idle overnight, the node eventually
becomes unreachable (“no route to host”), yet
running “alive” on the node indicates that the node
is still “up”.

The Net.tulip driver has a “-d” option to “Disable Rx
Errata Code”. This was introduced in Revision H,
the last revision before shipping with QNX 4.25.

Exercising the “-d” option does not improve the
performance problem.

In the 4.25P upgrade, a “tdump” utility was included
to provide an additional level of detail about the 21143
chip, allowing a user to report any anomalies back to
QSSL. In particular, information about the chip is
requested for any chip that is detected as being
“Generic PHY”

The 21143 chip on this CPU card was identified as
being “Generic PHY” by the “tdump” utility.

I noticed that Net.tulip driver development
stopped in June, 1999 and this hardware is
less than a year old.

Has anyone encountered this problem for a
DS21143 Ethernet + QS6611 Physical Layer
chip set, and was able to resolve it?


Thanks.

  • Paul
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Previously, Paul Thomas wrote in qdn.public.qnx4:

I have an embedded cPCI system which has
the ethernet chip 21143 integrated onto the CPU
card. After witnessing occasional slow network
response, the Net.tulip driver was upgraded to the
latest available, 4.25P.

Now performance is okay for the first couple of
hours or so, then degrades noticeably thereafter.
If it is left to run idle overnight, the node eventually
becomes unreachable (“no route to host”), yet
running “alive” on the node indicates that the node
is still “up”.

The Net.tulip driver has a “-d” option to “Disable Rx
Errata Code”. This was introduced in Revision H,
the last revision before shipping with QNX 4.25.

Exercising the “-d” option does not improve the
performance problem.

In the 4.25P upgrade, a “tdump” utility was included
to provide an additional level of detail about the 21143
chip, allowing a user to report any anomalies back to
QSSL. In particular, information about the chip is
requested for any chip that is detected as being
“Generic PHY”

The 21143 chip on this CPU card was identified as
being “Generic PHY” by the “tdump” utility.

I noticed that Net.tulip driver development
stopped in June, 1999 and this hardware is
less than a year old.

Has anyone encountered this problem for a
DS21143 Ethernet + QS6611 Physical Layer
chip set, and was able to resolve it?

The PHY shouldn’t cause the slowdown that you are seeing. Could you
please post the output from netinfo when this happens?

Thanks.

  • Paul
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Hugh Brown <hsbrown@qnx.com> wrote in message
news:Voyager.010509081344.2856B@node90.ott.qnx.com…

The PHY shouldn’t cause the slowdown that you are seeing. Could you
please post the output from netinfo when this happens?

<<netinfo.txt>>



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Previously, Paul Thomas wrote in qdn.public.qnx4:

Hugh Brown <> hsbrown@qnx.com> > wrote in message
news:> Voyager.010509081344.2856B@node90.ott.qnx.com> …

The PHY shouldn’t cause the slowdown that you are seeing. Could you
please post the output from netinfo when this happens?

This netinfo output tells me nothing as it is just full of
“unrecognized raw protocol” messages. Please start Net as
‘Net -E3 &’ and when the problem occurs, post the output from netinfo
again.

5

Hugh Brown <hsbrown@qnx.com> wrote in message
news:Voyager.010509133052.1054B@node90.ott.qnx.com…

This netinfo output tells me nothing as it is just full of
“unrecognized raw protocol” messages. Please start Net as
‘Net -E3 &’ and when the problem occurs, post the output from netinfo
again.

netinfo.txt

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