Memory problem with NEUTRINO and Laptop

Hi there, I just tried to install NEUTRINO on my laptop (Pentium III, 128MB
RAM,…). If worked fine. Photon appears, graphics ok. But I can’t start
large programs (packet manager for example); there is a message that sounds
like “not enough memory”. E.g. if I open a terminal window then the memory
bar (right down on screen) goes from “near to end” to “very near to end”.
What can I do to reduce memory requirements? Do I have to avoid photon? Have
I done something wrong?

Thank you.

Nnamdi

pidin mem will show you who is using all of your memory. Once
you figure out who is causing the problem we can look at
stopping it.

What does pidin in show for total available memory?

Peter

Nnamdi Kohn <nnamdi.kohn@tu-bs.de> wrote:
: Hi there, I just tried to install NEUTRINO on my laptop (Pentium III, 128MB
: RAM,…). If worked fine. Photon appears, graphics ok. But I can’t start
: large programs (packet manager for example); there is a message that sounds
: like “not enough memory”. E.g. if I open a terminal window then the memory
: bar (right down on screen) goes from “near to end” to “very near to end”.
: What can I do to reduce memory requirements? Do I have to avoid photon? Have
: I done something wrong?

: Thank you.

: Nnamdi

thanx, Peter.

I just printed the whole output of “pidin mem” into file “pidin_lap”. How
come that all these processes have been started right from the beginning?
I’ll have to figure out what they are for. Could it be possible that QNX
does not recognize all the memory in the laptop?

Nnamdi


you wrote:

pidin mem will show you who is using all of your memory. Once
you figure out who is causing the problem we can look at
stopping it.

What does pidin in show for total available memory?

Peter

Nnamdi Kohn <> nnamdi.kohn@tu-bs.de> > wrote:
: Hi there, I just tried to install NEUTRINO on my laptop (Pentium III,
128MB
: RAM,…). If worked fine. Photon appears, graphics ok. But I can’t start
: large programs (packet manager for example); there is a message that
sounds
: like “not enough memory”. E.g. if I open a terminal window then the
memory
: bar (right down on screen) goes from “near to end” to “very near to
end”.
: What can I do to reduce memory requirements? Do I have to avoid photon?
Have
: I done something wrong?

: Thank you.

: Nnamdi

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Nnamdi Kohn <nnamdi.kohn@tu-bs.de> wrote:

thanx, Peter.

I just printed the whole output of “pidin mem” into file “pidin_lap”. How
come that all these processes have been started right from the beginning?
I’ll have to figure out what they are for. Could it be possible that QNX
does not recognize all the memory in the laptop?

That is possible as well. What does “pidin in” say for memory used/total
memory?

(BTW, if you can just include it as text, rather than attaching it, it
makes it easier for us to comment on it.)

-David

QNX Training Services
dagibbs@qnx.com

Thanks, David.

Here is, as you suggested, the problem. After running the command “pidin in”
on my laptop there was this output:

CPU:X86 Processors:1 FreeMem:424Kb/15Mb BootTime:Feb 06 19:00:47 met 2001
Processor1: 686 Intel 686 F6M8S3 0000-0683-0000-8C41-D6D9-4873 597Mhz FPU

but I have got 128MB on my machine. How can I use all of it? And what are
all these processes described in “pidin mem” before?

Nnamdi Kohn <> nnamdi.kohn@tu-bs.de> > wrote:
I just printed the whole output of “pidin mem” into file “pidin_lap”.
How
come that all these processes have been started right from the
beginning?
I’ll have to figure out what they are for. Could it be possible that QNX
does not recognize all the memory in the laptop?

That is possible as well. What does “pidin in” say for memory used/total
memory?

Nnamdi Kohn <nnamdi.kohn@tu-bs.de> wrote:

Thanks, David.

Here is, as you suggested, the problem. After running the command “pidin in”
on my laptop there was this output:

CPU:X86 Processors:1 FreeMem:424Kb/15Mb BootTime:Feb 06 19:00:47 met 2001
Processor1: 686 Intel 686 F6M8S3 0000-0683-0000-8C41-D6D9-4873 597Mhz FPU

but I have got 128MB on my machine. How can I use all of it?

I’ve narrowed down the problem. :slight_smile: I don’t know the solution. :frowning:
But, hopefully, someone will have a suggestion or two…

-David

QNX Training Services
dagibbs@qnx.com

Previously, David Gibbs wrote in qdn.public.qnxrtp.newuser:

Nnamdi Kohn <> nnamdi.kohn@tu-bs.de> > wrote:
Thanks, David.

Here is, as you suggested, the problem. After running the command “pidin in”
on my laptop there was this output:

CPU:X86 Processors:1 FreeMem:424Kb/15Mb BootTime:Feb 06 19:00:47 met 2001
Processor1: 686 Intel 686 F6M8S3 0000-0683-0000-8C41-D6D9-4873 597Mhz FPU

but I have got 128MB on my machine. How can I use all of it?

I’ve narrowed down the problem. > :slight_smile: > I don’t know the solution. > :frowning:
But, hopefully, someone will have a suggestion or two…

15 megs? Hmm, isn’t there a bios selectable memory hole around there? Check to make sure that’s not enabled, definatley. I don’t think there’s any reason you would ever want it enabled.

The PC architecture (if you can call it that) can be bizzare at times. Weirdo legacy stuff all over.

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“d” == David Gibbs <> dagibbs@qnx.com> > writes:
d> Nnamdi Kohn <> nnamdi.kohn@tu-bs.de> > wrote:
Here is, as you suggested, the problem. After running the command “pidin in”
on my laptop there was this output:

CPU:X86 Processors:1 FreeMem:424Kb/15Mb BootTime:Feb 06 19:00:47 met 2001
Processor1: 686 Intel 686 F6M8S3 0000-0683-0000-8C41-D6D9-4873 597Mhz FPU

but I have got 128MB on my machine. How can I use all of it?

d> I’ve narrowed down the problem. :slight_smile: I don’t know the solution. :frowning:
d> But, hopefully, someone will have a suggestion or two…

I see a similar problem with a Compaq Presario 7240. When RTP is
booted from Windows 95 (using /M64 on the appropriate config.sys
entry), the full 64Mb is found; however, when booted directly from a
partition, only 16Mb is found.

Booted from Windows 95

pidin in

CPU:X86 Processors:1 FreeMem:46Mb/63Mb BootTime:Feb 06 08:16:36 EST 2001
Processor1: 586 Pentium (P54C) Stepping 11 133Mhz FPU

uname -a

QNX neut 6.00 2000/09/13-14:09:41edt x86pc x86

Booted directly from partition

pidin in

CPU:X86 Processors:1 FreeMem:8Mb/15Mb BootTime:Feb 06 20:28:50 GMT 2001
Processor1: 586 Pentium (P54C) Stepping 11 132Mhz FPU

uname -a

QNX localhost 6.00 2000/10/17-14:59:25edt x86pc x86


What must be done so RTP will use all RAM when booted directly?

Here is, as you suggested, the problem. After running the command
“pidin in”
on my laptop there was this output:

CPU:X86 Processors:1 FreeMem:424Kb/15Mb BootTime:Feb 06 19:00:47 met
2001
Processor1: 686 Intel 686 F6M8S3 0000-0683-0000-8C41-D6D9-4873 597Mhz
FPU

but I have got 128MB on my machine. How can I use all of it?

I’ve narrowed down the problem. > :slight_smile: > I don’t know the solution. > :frowning:
But, hopefully, someone will have a suggestion or two…


15 megs? Hmm, isn’t there a bios selectable memory hole around there?
Check to make sure that’s not enabled, definatley. I don’t think there’s any

reason you would ever want it enabled.

I tried to find any possibility of scaling memory in the bios, but there was
none. I have a TravelMate 522TX laptop, running NEUTRINO selected from a DOS
Boot-Menu (config.sys). There was just Win98 OS, initially. Could there be
specific problems with this model or the current use of NEUTRINO?

Nnamdi

thanks for the answer. I tried to find the place to adjust the memory switch
“/M64” - without success. Here is my “config.sys”:

[menu]
menuitem=WIN, Windows
menudefault=WIN,30
menuitem=QNXDMA, QNX Realtime Platform
menuitem=QNX, QNX Realtime Platform (DMA Disabled)
menucolor=7,0
[QNX]
DEVICE=C:\PROGRA~2\QNX\boot\bin\loadqnx.sys
C:\PROGRA~2\QNX\boot\fs\qnxbase.ifs
[QNXDMA]
DEVICE=C:\PROGRA~2\QNX\boot\bin\loadqnx.sys
C:\PROGRA~2\QNX\boot\fs\qnxbas~1.ifs
[WIN]
REM [Header]
device=c:\windows\COMMAND\display.sys con=(ega,1)
Country=049,850,c:\windows\COMMAND\country.sys
[COMMON]

Where would you insert that memory switch and how?

Nnamdi

Here is, as you suggested, the problem. After running the command
“pidin in”
on my laptop there was this output:

CPU:X86 Processors:1 FreeMem:424Kb/15Mb BootTime:Feb 06 19:00:47 met
2001
Processor1: 686 Intel 686 F6M8S3 0000-0683-0000-8C41-D6D9-4873 597Mhz
FPU

but I have got 128MB on my machine. How can I use all of it?

Booted from Windows 95

pidin in

CPU:X86 Processors:1 FreeMem:46Mb/63Mb BootTime:Feb 06 08:16:36 EST 2001
Processor1: 586 Pentium (P54C) Stepping 11 133Mhz FPU

uname -a

QNX neut 6.00 2000/09/13-14:09:41edt x86pc x86

“k” == Nnamdi Kohn <> nnamdi.kohn@tu-bs.de> > writes:
k> thanks for the answer. I tried to find the place to adjust the memory switch

k> “/M64” - without success. Here is my “config.sys”:

k> [menu]
k> menuitem=WIN, Windows
k> menudefault=WIN,30
k> menuitem=QNXDMA, QNX Realtime Platform
k> menuitem=QNX, QNX Realtime Platform (DMA Disabled)
k> menucolor=7,0
k> [QNX]
k> DEVICE=C:\PROGRA~2\QNX\boot\bin\loadqnx.sys C:\PROGRA~2\QNX\boot\fs\qnxbase.ifs
k> [QNXDMA]
k> DEVICE=C:\PROGRA~2\QNX\boot\bin\loadqnx.sys C:\PROGRA~2\QNX\boot\fs\qnxbas~1.ifs
k> [WIN]
k> REM [Header]
k> device=c:\windows\COMMAND\display.sys con=(ega,1)
k> Country=049,850,c:\windows\COMMAND\country.sys
k> [COMMON]

k> Where would you insert that memory switch and how?

I would append the /M64 string to each loadqnx.sys DEVICE= entry as
follows:
DEVICE=C:\PROGRA~2\QNX\boot\bin\loadqnx.sys C:\PROGRA~2\QNX\boot\fs\qnxbase.ifs /M64

Also have a look at “SECTION 5 - Troubleshooting” in the Readme.txt
file found in the Win95 folder “/Program Files/qnx/boot” for more
info about this feature.