QNX, why why why why why

Hello its me again,

QNX rtp 6.1.0, doesnt seem to be too successful, on first install it crashes
whilst, now get this “Building the dynamic font sub system …PLEASE
WAIT…”, unless of course its supposed to site there for an eternity?? I
managed to get it to load by pressing random keys on startup, now it wont
work at all, am I missing something, I thought that this operating system
was used in medical equipment, i sure wouldnt want that looking after me
when im ill, then crashing whilst building its dynmaic font susbsystem!!

Niknak!! :frowning:

How are you installing 6.1?
Is it a clean install booting from the CD?

Regards,

Joe

np24 <np24@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

Hello its me again,

QNX rtp 6.1.0, doesnt seem to be too successful, on first install it crashes
whilst, now get this “Building the dynamic font sub system …PLEASE
WAIT…”, unless of course its supposed to site there for an eternity?? I
managed to get it to load by pressing random keys on startup, now it wont
work at all, am I missing something, I thought that this operating system
was used in medical equipment, i sure wouldnt want that looking after me
when im ill, then crashing whilst building its dynmaic font susbsystem!!

Niknak!! > :frowning:

At last!!!, I have found the problem, QNX RTP 6.1.0, will not load with my
Xircom Realport PCMCIA card in, why? I have no idea, but it just took me
hours figuring that out. By the way when I first installed QNX, I was doing
via instructions down the phone from QNX, alas the install did not exceed
and my laptop was of a rather empty nature there after, never mind, i think
i may stick to windows.

Nackers!! :frowning:

“Hardware Support Account” <hw@qnx.com> wrote in message
news:9hvjg4$bbp$1@nntp.qnx.com

How are you installing 6.1?
Is it a clean install booting from the CD?

Regards,

Joe

np24 <> np24@blueyonder.co.uk> > wrote:
Hello its me again,

QNX rtp 6.1.0, doesnt seem to be too successful, on first install it
crashes
whilst, now get this “Building the dynamic font sub system …PLEASE
WAIT…”, unless of course its supposed to site there for an eternity??
I
managed to get it to load by pressing random keys on startup, now it
wont
work at all, am I missing something, I thought that this operating
system
was used in medical equipment, i sure wouldnt want that looking after me
when im ill, then crashing whilst building its dynmaic font susbsystem!!

Niknak!! > :frowning:

In article <9hvdks$68c$1@inn.qnx.com>, np24@blueyonder.co.uk says…

Hello its me again,

QNX rtp 6.1.0, doesnt seem to be too successful, on first install it crashes
whilst, now get this “Building the dynamic font sub system …PLEASE
WAIT…”, unless of course its supposed to site there for an eternity?? I
managed to get it to load by pressing random keys on startup, now it wont
work at all, am I missing something, I thought that this operating system
was used in medical equipment, i sure wouldnt want that looking after me
when im ill, then crashing whilst building its dynmaic font susbsystem!!

:sunglasses:

Not very likely (crashing like this in the medical equipment)…
Some points…

  1. QNX6.1 is not the OS used in medical equipment (at least not yet),
    QNX4.1 is. QNX6 is still getting the kinks ironed out.

  2. The company making the medical equipment would be the ones making sure
    that there were no problems like this with the OS and the hardware
    combination. It is not as if the medical equipment is just “thrown” out
    there. It is tested, tested, and tested again.
    After all, did you try to install QNX6.1 on “certified” equipment, or
    just any old machine you happened to have lying around at home? :sunglasses:

  3. Medical equipment manufacturers are not in the habit of upgrading the
    version of the OS willy-nilly on field installed equipment without
    considerable testing on identical equipment in the labs first.

Anyway, I bet you really were not seriously worried about medical
equipment just because you are having some problems with a BETA release
of the OS on an essentially random selection of computer motherboard and
peripherals. I think it was just a ploy to get the QSSL employees
attention.

So stop cheating! :sunglasses: We all have our problems too! (that we want them
to look at)

Have fun…


Niknak!! > :frowning:
\


Stephen Munnings
Software Developer
Corman Technologies Inc.

Chill out you! for christ sake!


“Stephen Munnings” <steve@cormantech.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.15ad332df0ae60c898968c@inn.qnx.com

In article <9hvdks$68c$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, > np24@blueyonder.co.uk > says…
Hello its me again,

QNX rtp 6.1.0, doesnt seem to be too successful, on first install it
crashes
whilst, now get this “Building the dynamic font sub system …PLEASE
WAIT…”, unless of course its supposed to site there for an eternity??
I
managed to get it to load by pressing random keys on startup, now it
wont
work at all, am I missing something, I thought that this operating
system
was used in medical equipment, i sure wouldnt want that looking after me
when im ill, then crashing whilst building its dynmaic font susbsystem!!


:sunglasses:

Not very likely (crashing like this in the medical equipment)…
Some points…

  1. QNX6.1 is not the OS used in medical equipment (at least not yet),
    QNX4.1 is. QNX6 is still getting the kinks ironed out.

  2. The company making the medical equipment would be the ones making sure
    that there were no problems like this with the OS and the hardware
    combination. It is not as if the medical equipment is just “thrown” out
    there. It is tested, tested, and tested again.
    After all, did you try to install QNX6.1 on “certified” equipment, or
    just any old machine you happened to have lying around at home? > :sunglasses:

  3. Medical equipment manufacturers are not in the habit of upgrading the
    version of the OS willy-nilly on field installed equipment without
    considerable testing on identical equipment in the labs first.

Anyway, I bet you really were not seriously worried about medical
equipment just because you are having some problems with a BETA release
of the OS on an essentially random selection of computer motherboard and
peripherals. I think it was just a ploy to get the QSSL employees
attention.

So stop cheating! > :sunglasses: > We all have our problems too! (that we want them
to look at)

Have fun…


Niknak!! > :frowning:



\

Stephen Munnings
Software Developer
Corman Technologies Inc.

np24 <np24@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

Chill out you! for christ sake!

Yeah. Chill out Stephen :slight_smile: Let the kid have some trolling fun on the
newsgroup. He amuses us old guys :wink:

cool, shway, rock!
rick

“Stephen Munnings” <> steve@cormantech.com> > wrote in message
news:> MPG.15ad332df0ae60c898968c@inn.qnx.com> …
In article <9hvdks$68c$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, > np24@blueyonder.co.uk > says…
Hello its me again,

QNX rtp 6.1.0, doesnt seem to be too successful, on first install it
crashes
whilst, now get this “Building the dynamic font sub system …PLEASE
WAIT…”, unless of course its supposed to site there for an eternity??
I
managed to get it to load by pressing random keys on startup, now it
wont
work at all, am I missing something, I thought that this operating
system
was used in medical equipment, i sure wouldnt want that looking after me
when im ill, then crashing whilst building its dynmaic font susbsystem!!


:sunglasses:

Not very likely (crashing like this in the medical equipment)…
Some points…

  1. QNX6.1 is not the OS used in medical equipment (at least not yet),
    QNX4.1 is. QNX6 is still getting the kinks ironed out.

  2. The company making the medical equipment would be the ones making sure
    that there were no problems like this with the OS and the hardware
    combination. It is not as if the medical equipment is just “thrown” out
    there. It is tested, tested, and tested again.
    After all, did you try to install QNX6.1 on “certified” equipment, or
    just any old machine you happened to have lying around at home? > :sunglasses:

  3. Medical equipment manufacturers are not in the habit of upgrading the
    version of the OS willy-nilly on field installed equipment without
    considerable testing on identical equipment in the labs first.

Anyway, I bet you really were not seriously worried about medical
equipment just because you are having some problems with a BETA release
of the OS on an essentially random selection of computer motherboard and
peripherals. I think it was just a ploy to get the QSSL employees
attention.

So stop cheating! > :sunglasses: > We all have our problems too! (that we want them
to look at)

Have fun…


Niknak!! > :frowning:



\

Stephen Munnings
Software Developer
Corman Technologies Inc.

“np24” <np24@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:9hvqdd$dob$1@inn.qnx.com

Chill out you! for christ sake!

I’m french and don’t really understand this statement can you clarify
your though and elaborate on your reasoning?

“Stephen Munnings” <> steve@cormantech.com> > wrote in message
news:> MPG.15ad332df0ae60c898968c@inn.qnx.com> …
In article <9hvdks$68c$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, > np24@blueyonder.co.uk > says…
Hello its me again,

QNX rtp 6.1.0, doesnt seem to be too successful, on first install it
crashes
whilst, now get this “Building the dynamic font sub system …PLEASE
WAIT…”, unless of course its supposed to site there for an
eternity??
I
managed to get it to load by pressing random keys on startup, now it
wont
work at all, am I missing something, I thought that this operating
system
was used in medical equipment, i sure wouldnt want that looking after
me
when im ill, then crashing whilst building its dynmaic font
susbsystem!!


:sunglasses:

Not very likely (crashing like this in the medical equipment)…
Some points…

  1. QNX6.1 is not the OS used in medical equipment (at least not yet),
    QNX4.1 is. QNX6 is still getting the kinks ironed out.

  2. The company making the medical equipment would be the ones making
    sure
    that there were no problems like this with the OS and the hardware
    combination. It is not as if the medical equipment is just “thrown” out
    there. It is tested, tested, and tested again.
    After all, did you try to install QNX6.1 on “certified” equipment, or
    just any old machine you happened to have lying around at home? > :sunglasses:

  3. Medical equipment manufacturers are not in the habit of upgrading the
    version of the OS willy-nilly on field installed equipment without
    considerable testing on identical equipment in the labs first.

Anyway, I bet you really were not seriously worried about medical
equipment just because you are having some problems with a BETA release
of the OS on an essentially random selection of computer motherboard and
peripherals. I think it was just a ploy to get the QSSL employees
attention.

So stop cheating! > :sunglasses: > We all have our problems too! (that we want
them
to look at)

Have fun…


Niknak!! > :frowning:



\

Stephen Munnings
Software Developer
Corman Technologies Inc.

Hmmm??, this statement “Chill out you! for christ sake!” basically means
that I dont want any replies that are structured like this,

  1. YOU CANT SAY THAT
  2. MORE ANNOYING DEMANDS
  3. YOU ARE 19 AND DONT KNOW ANYTHING!!
  4. QNX IS GREEEAT!!

Basically, im not a kid, im 19 and I dont class that as being a kid, I have
been developing windows software for 2 years now and was actually quite
excited about developing software for a far more powerful and reliable
operating system. The thing that slows me down is the un-freindliness of
the user interface, the graphics are lovely, but still, graphics dont make
an application especially an operating system. But anyways, ill stop
winging now. QNX 6 was supposed to be a replacement for windows in every
way, so that you would never go back, fat chance that is!

Nakkkkkers!!

“Mario Charest” <mcharest@zinformatic.com> wrote in message
news:9i1lq9$i68$1@inn.qnx.com

“np24” <> np24@blueyonder.co.uk> > wrote in message
news:9hvqdd$dob$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Chill out you! for christ sake!

I’m french and don’t really understand this statement can you clarify
your though and elaborate on your reasoning?



“Stephen Munnings” <> steve@cormantech.com> > wrote in message
news:> MPG.15ad332df0ae60c898968c@inn.qnx.com> …
In article <9hvdks$68c$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, > np24@blueyonder.co.uk > says…
Hello its me again,

QNX rtp 6.1.0, doesnt seem to be too successful, on first install it
crashes
whilst, now get this “Building the dynamic font sub system …PLEASE
WAIT…”, unless of course its supposed to site there for an
eternity??
I
managed to get it to load by pressing random keys on startup, now it
wont
work at all, am I missing something, I thought that this operating
system
was used in medical equipment, i sure wouldnt want that looking
after
me
when im ill, then crashing whilst building its dynmaic font
susbsystem!!


:sunglasses:

Not very likely (crashing like this in the medical equipment)…
Some points…

  1. QNX6.1 is not the OS used in medical equipment (at least not yet),
    QNX4.1 is. QNX6 is still getting the kinks ironed out.

  2. The company making the medical equipment would be the ones making
    sure
    that there were no problems like this with the OS and the hardware
    combination. It is not as if the medical equipment is just “thrown”
    out
    there. It is tested, tested, and tested again.
    After all, did you try to install QNX6.1 on “certified” equipment, or
    just any old machine you happened to have lying around at home? > :sunglasses:

  3. Medical equipment manufacturers are not in the habit of upgrading
    the
    version of the OS willy-nilly on field installed equipment without
    considerable testing on identical equipment in the labs first.

Anyway, I bet you really were not seriously worried about medical
equipment just because you are having some problems with a BETA
release
of the OS on an essentially random selection of computer motherboard
and
peripherals. I think it was just a ploy to get the QSSL employees
attention.

So stop cheating! > :sunglasses: > We all have our problems too! (that we want
them
to look at)

Have fun…


Niknak!! > :frowning:



\

Stephen Munnings
Software Developer
Corman Technologies Inc.
\

Another point to be made: most of the crashes that you experience will be
related to the desktop. There is some very complex stuff going on there with
graphics drivers, package filesystem, etc. that can and do go haywire
occasionally. I think that if you were to telnet to the machine that was
hung, you would find that it wasn’t hung at all (of course, since your network
card wasn’t working, that is a moot point :wink:. My real point is just that the
underlying OS is ROCK steady (maybe not quite as stable as QNX 4 yet but pretty
close). I would say that it is pretty darn rare to see the kernel crash. In
fact, I’ve been working here for a year which means I used some pretty early
versions of RTP/QNX6/whatever it was called at the time and I’ve NEVER seen
the kernel crash. I understand that they have make it crash in the lab with
some of their weird regression tests but for me, it’s been rock steady. The
problem is that if the tcpip stack goes down or the graphics driver, it looks
just like a crash as far as the desktop user is concerned. It’s like when
X hangs on my Linux box. I know that if I have another machine I can telnet
in and fix the problem but, as far as the console goes, it doesn’t matter
which subsystem has crashed.

When QNX is embedded into a medical device, there will be one or two
specialized applications running rather than hundreds. There will be
watchdogs to make sure that if a driver/manager goes down, it is restarted
(oh…the joys of a microkernel). And, as Stephen wrote, there will be
more testing than you can imagine. So whats really important is what’s
underneath. Don’t get too caught up in the shiny, pretty desktop. That is
there as a convenience to developers and, if you don’t like it, we have
Solaris and win32 hosted toolsets too. I’m sorry that you’ve had some
problems but we appreciate your problem reports. It helps us improve our
product.

Cheers,

Kris

Stephen Munnings <steve@cormantech.com> wrote:

In article <9hvdks$68c$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, > np24@blueyonder.co.uk > says…
Hello its me again,

QNX rtp 6.1.0, doesnt seem to be too successful, on first install it crashes
whilst, now get this “Building the dynamic font sub system …PLEASE
WAIT…”, unless of course its supposed to site there for an eternity?? I
managed to get it to load by pressing random keys on startup, now it wont
work at all, am I missing something, I thought that this operating system
was used in medical equipment, i sure wouldnt want that looking after me
when im ill, then crashing whilst building its dynmaic font susbsystem!!


:sunglasses:

Not very likely (crashing like this in the medical equipment)…
Some points…

  1. QNX6.1 is not the OS used in medical equipment (at least not yet),
    QNX4.1 is. QNX6 is still getting the kinks ironed out.

  2. The company making the medical equipment would be the ones making sure
    that there were no problems like this with the OS and the hardware
    combination. It is not as if the medical equipment is just “thrown” out
    there. It is tested, tested, and tested again.
    After all, did you try to install QNX6.1 on “certified” equipment, or
    just any old machine you happened to have lying around at home? > :sunglasses:

  3. Medical equipment manufacturers are not in the habit of upgrading the
    version of the OS willy-nilly on field installed equipment without
    considerable testing on identical equipment in the labs first.

Anyway, I bet you really were not seriously worried about medical
equipment just because you are having some problems with a BETA release
of the OS on an essentially random selection of computer motherboard and
peripherals. I think it was just a ploy to get the QSSL employees
attention.

So stop cheating! > :sunglasses: > We all have our problems too! (that we want them
to look at)

Have fun…


Niknak!! > :frowning:



\

Stephen Munnings
Software Developer
Corman Technologies Inc.


Kris Warkentin
kewarken@qnx.com
(613)591-0836 x9368
“You’re bound to be unhappy if you optimize everything” - Donald Knuth

win32 hosted toolsets ?? what do you mean by this, it sounds interesting,
excuse my ignorance. I am well aware of QNX as an imbedded solution as was
just being sarcastic. I recently stopped working for a company called
Conference Cmmunications and myself and an ex collegue of mine were working
on using QNX as an embedded control system for corporate boardrooms etc, and
central control systems, mainly for its reliability. Sorry if I seem to be
slagging it off, but im just kidding and am just slightly disappointed by a
few parts of it thats all :frowning:

Niknak.

“Kris Eric Warkentin” <kewarken@qnx.com> wrote in message
news:9i1prf$n9c$1@nntp.qnx.com

Another point to be made: most of the crashes that you experience will be
related to the desktop. There is some very complex stuff going on there
with
graphics drivers, package filesystem, etc. that can and do go haywire
occasionally. I think that if you were to telnet to the machine that was
hung, you would find that it wasn’t hung at all (of course, since your
network
card wasn’t working, that is a moot point > :wink:> . My real point is just that
the
underlying OS is ROCK steady (maybe not quite as stable as QNX 4 yet but
pretty
close). I would say that it is pretty darn rare to see the kernel crash.
In
fact, I’ve been working here for a year which means I used some pretty
early
versions of RTP/QNX6/whatever it was called at the time and I’ve NEVER
seen
the kernel crash. I understand that they have make it crash in the lab
with
some of their weird regression tests but for me, it’s been rock steady.
The
problem is that if the tcpip stack goes down or the graphics driver, it
looks
just like a crash as far as the desktop user is concerned. It’s like when
X hangs on my Linux box. I know that if I have another machine I can
telnet
in and fix the problem but, as far as the console goes, it doesn’t matter
which subsystem has crashed.

When QNX is embedded into a medical device, there will be one or two
specialized applications running rather than hundreds. There will be
watchdogs to make sure that if a driver/manager goes down, it is restarted
(oh…the joys of a microkernel). And, as Stephen wrote, there will be
more testing than you can imagine. So whats really important is what’s
underneath. Don’t get too caught up in the shiny, pretty desktop. That
is
there as a convenience to developers and, if you don’t like it, we have
Solaris and win32 hosted toolsets too. I’m sorry that you’ve had some
problems but we appreciate your problem reports. It helps us improve our
product.

Cheers,

Kris

Stephen Munnings <> steve@cormantech.com> > wrote:
In article <9hvdks$68c$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, > np24@blueyonder.co.uk > says…
Hello its me again,

QNX rtp 6.1.0, doesnt seem to be too successful, on first install it
crashes
whilst, now get this “Building the dynamic font sub system …PLEASE
WAIT…”, unless of course its supposed to site there for an eternity??
I
managed to get it to load by pressing random keys on startup, now it
wont
work at all, am I missing something, I thought that this operating
system
was used in medical equipment, i sure wouldnt want that looking after
me
when im ill, then crashing whilst building its dynmaic font
susbsystem!!


:sunglasses:

Not very likely (crashing like this in the medical equipment)…
Some points…

  1. QNX6.1 is not the OS used in medical equipment (at least not yet),
    QNX4.1 is. QNX6 is still getting the kinks ironed out.

  2. The company making the medical equipment would be the ones making
    sure
    that there were no problems like this with the OS and the hardware
    combination. It is not as if the medical equipment is just “thrown” out
    there. It is tested, tested, and tested again.
    After all, did you try to install QNX6.1 on “certified” equipment, or
    just any old machine you happened to have lying around at home? > :sunglasses:

  3. Medical equipment manufacturers are not in the habit of upgrading the
    version of the OS willy-nilly on field installed equipment without
    considerable testing on identical equipment in the labs first.

Anyway, I bet you really were not seriously worried about medical
equipment just because you are having some problems with a BETA release
of the OS on an essentially random selection of computer motherboard and
peripherals. I think it was just a ploy to get the QSSL employees
attention.

So stop cheating! > :sunglasses: > We all have our problems too! (that we want
them
to look at)

Have fun…


Niknak!! > :frowning:



\

Stephen Munnings
Software Developer
Corman Technologies Inc.


Kris Warkentin
kewarken@qnx.com
(613)591-0836 x9368
“You’re bound to be unhappy if you optimize everything” - Donald Knuth

If you have the Win32 or Solaris SDK, you have gcc, gdb and all the rest of
the toolchain for those platforms. You will be able to target Neutrino
on x86, sh, ppc, mips and arm as well as debug them (serial or tcp/ip). We
even have PhAB development on Win32. So, like I said, if our desktop doesn’t
strike your fancy, you can still develop for QNX on the host of your choice.

Cheers,

Kris

np24 <np24@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

win32 hosted toolsets ?? what do you mean by this, it sounds interesting,
excuse my ignorance. I am well aware of QNX as an imbedded solution as was
just being sarcastic. I recently stopped working for a company called
Conference Cmmunications and myself and an ex collegue of mine were working
on using QNX as an embedded control system for corporate boardrooms etc, and
central control systems, mainly for its reliability. Sorry if I seem to be
slagging it off, but im just kidding and am just slightly disappointed by a
few parts of it thats all > :frowning:

Niknak.

“Kris Eric Warkentin” <> kewarken@qnx.com> > wrote in message
news:9i1prf$n9c$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> …
Another point to be made: most of the crashes that you experience will be
related to the desktop. There is some very complex stuff going on there
with
graphics drivers, package filesystem, etc. that can and do go haywire
occasionally. I think that if you were to telnet to the machine that was
hung, you would find that it wasn’t hung at all (of course, since your
network
card wasn’t working, that is a moot point > :wink:> . My real point is just that
the
underlying OS is ROCK steady (maybe not quite as stable as QNX 4 yet but
pretty
close). I would say that it is pretty darn rare to see the kernel crash.
In
fact, I’ve been working here for a year which means I used some pretty
early
versions of RTP/QNX6/whatever it was called at the time and I’ve NEVER
seen
the kernel crash. I understand that they have make it crash in the lab
with
some of their weird regression tests but for me, it’s been rock steady.
The
problem is that if the tcpip stack goes down or the graphics driver, it
looks
just like a crash as far as the desktop user is concerned. It’s like when
X hangs on my Linux box. I know that if I have another machine I can
telnet
in and fix the problem but, as far as the console goes, it doesn’t matter
which subsystem has crashed.

When QNX is embedded into a medical device, there will be one or two
specialized applications running rather than hundreds. There will be
watchdogs to make sure that if a driver/manager goes down, it is restarted
(oh…the joys of a microkernel). And, as Stephen wrote, there will be
more testing than you can imagine. So whats really important is what’s
underneath. Don’t get too caught up in the shiny, pretty desktop. That
is
there as a convenience to developers and, if you don’t like it, we have
Solaris and win32 hosted toolsets too. I’m sorry that you’ve had some
problems but we appreciate your problem reports. It helps us improve our
product.

Cheers,

Kris

Stephen Munnings <> steve@cormantech.com> > wrote:
In article <9hvdks$68c$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, > np24@blueyonder.co.uk > says…
Hello its me again,

QNX rtp 6.1.0, doesnt seem to be too successful, on first install it
crashes
whilst, now get this “Building the dynamic font sub system …PLEASE
WAIT…”, unless of course its supposed to site there for an eternity??
I
managed to get it to load by pressing random keys on startup, now it
wont
work at all, am I missing something, I thought that this operating
system
was used in medical equipment, i sure wouldnt want that looking after
me
when im ill, then crashing whilst building its dynmaic font
susbsystem!!


:sunglasses:

Not very likely (crashing like this in the medical equipment)…
Some points…

  1. QNX6.1 is not the OS used in medical equipment (at least not yet),
    QNX4.1 is. QNX6 is still getting the kinks ironed out.

  2. The company making the medical equipment would be the ones making
    sure
    that there were no problems like this with the OS and the hardware
    combination. It is not as if the medical equipment is just “thrown” out
    there. It is tested, tested, and tested again.
    After all, did you try to install QNX6.1 on “certified” equipment, or
    just any old machine you happened to have lying around at home? > :sunglasses:

  3. Medical equipment manufacturers are not in the habit of upgrading the
    version of the OS willy-nilly on field installed equipment without
    considerable testing on identical equipment in the labs first.

Anyway, I bet you really were not seriously worried about medical
equipment just because you are having some problems with a BETA release
of the OS on an essentially random selection of computer motherboard and
peripherals. I think it was just a ploy to get the QSSL employees
attention.

So stop cheating! > :sunglasses: > We all have our problems too! (that we want
them
to look at)

Have fun…


Niknak!! > :frowning:



\

Stephen Munnings
Software Developer
Corman Technologies Inc.


Kris Warkentin
kewarken@qnx.com
(613)591-0836 x9368
“You’re bound to be unhappy if you optimize everything” - Donald Knuth


Kris Warkentin
kewarken@qnx.com
(613)591-0836 x9368
“You’re bound to be unhappy if you optimize everything” - Donald Knuth

Who ever said `QNX 6 was supposed to be a replacement for windows in every
way’?

Both are targeted at very different applications. Windows has been around
for a long time and has the largest software company in the world behind it
and they still can’t get it right! It took VMS to come in and write NT for
them before they got on track. There are already two service packs for
2000, they don’t tell you what’s in them and what they’ll address!

Neutrino is still very new, give it a chance…it does out-perform Windozzzz
2000 and once the kinks are ironed out will be a very good OS.

You might have to get your hands a little grubby to get it working with all
the different hardware available but that’s part of the fun and how to learn
the system fast.

Regards,
Simon

“np24” <np24@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:9i1pip$kce$1@inn.qnx.com

Hmmm??, this statement “Chill out you! for christ sake!” basically means
that I dont want any replies that are structured like this,

  1. YOU CANT SAY THAT
  2. MORE ANNOYING DEMANDS
  3. YOU ARE 19 AND DONT KNOW ANYTHING!!
  4. QNX IS GREEEAT!!

Basically, im not a kid, im 19 and I dont class that as being a kid, I
have
been developing windows software for 2 years now and was actually quite
excited about developing software for a far more powerful and reliable
operating system. The thing that slows me down is the un-freindliness of
the user interface, the graphics are lovely, but still, graphics dont make
an application especially an operating system. But anyways, ill stop
winging now. QNX 6 was supposed to be a replacement for windows in every
way, so that you would never go back, fat chance that is!

Nakkkkkers!!

“Mario Charest” <> mcharest@zinformatic.com> > wrote in message
news:9i1lq9$i68$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …

“np24” <> np24@blueyonder.co.uk> > wrote in message
news:9hvqdd$dob$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Chill out you! for christ sake!

I’m french and don’t really understand this statement can you clarify
your though and elaborate on your reasoning?



“Stephen Munnings” <> steve@cormantech.com> > wrote in message
news:> MPG.15ad332df0ae60c898968c@inn.qnx.com> …
In article <9hvdks$68c$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, > np24@blueyonder.co.uk > says…
Hello its me again,

QNX rtp 6.1.0, doesnt seem to be too successful, on first install
it
crashes
whilst, now get this “Building the dynamic font sub system
…PLEASE
WAIT…”, unless of course its supposed to site there for an
eternity??
I
managed to get it to load by pressing random keys on startup, now
it
wont
work at all, am I missing something, I thought that this operating
system
was used in medical equipment, i sure wouldnt want that looking
after
me
when im ill, then crashing whilst building its dynmaic font
susbsystem!!


:sunglasses:

Not very likely (crashing like this in the medical equipment)…
Some points…

  1. QNX6.1 is not the OS used in medical equipment (at least not
    yet),
    QNX4.1 is. QNX6 is still getting the kinks ironed out.

  2. The company making the medical equipment would be the ones making
    sure
    that there were no problems like this with the OS and the hardware
    combination. It is not as if the medical equipment is just “thrown”
    out
    there. It is tested, tested, and tested again.
    After all, did you try to install QNX6.1 on “certified” equipment,
    or
    just any old machine you happened to have lying around at home? > :sunglasses:

  3. Medical equipment manufacturers are not in the habit of upgrading
    the
    version of the OS willy-nilly on field installed equipment without
    considerable testing on identical equipment in the labs first.

Anyway, I bet you really were not seriously worried about medical
equipment just because you are having some problems with a BETA
release
of the OS on an essentially random selection of computer motherboard
and
peripherals. I think it was just a ploy to get the QSSL employees
attention.

So stop cheating! > :sunglasses: > We all have our problems too! (that we want
them
to look at)

Have fun…


Niknak!! > :frowning:



\

Stephen Munnings
Software Developer
Corman Technologies Inc.


\

Ill tell you who, QNX at a seminar that I attended, next question?

Niknak!!!

“Simon Platten” <simon.platten@brisco-eng.co.uk> wrote in message
news:9i1ugc$n83$1@inn.qnx.com

Who ever said `QNX 6 was supposed to be a replacement for windows in every
way’?

Both are targeted at very different applications. Windows has been around
for a long time and has the largest software company in the world behind
it
and they still can’t get it right! It took VMS to come in and write NT
for
them before they got on track. There are already two service packs for
2000, they don’t tell you what’s in them and what they’ll address!

Neutrino is still very new, give it a chance…it does out-perform
Windozzzz
2000 and once the kinks are ironed out will be a very good OS.

You might have to get your hands a little grubby to get it working with
all
the different hardware available but that’s part of the fun and how to
learn
the system fast.

Regards,
Simon

“np24” <> np24@blueyonder.co.uk> > wrote in message
news:9i1pip$kce$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Hmmm??, this statement “Chill out you! for christ sake!” basically means
that I dont want any replies that are structured like this,

  1. YOU CANT SAY THAT
  2. MORE ANNOYING DEMANDS
  3. YOU ARE 19 AND DONT KNOW ANYTHING!!
  4. QNX IS GREEEAT!!

Basically, im not a kid, im 19 and I dont class that as being a kid, I
have
been developing windows software for 2 years now and was actually quite
excited about developing software for a far more powerful and reliable
operating system. The thing that slows me down is the un-freindliness
of
the user interface, the graphics are lovely, but still, graphics dont
make
an application especially an operating system. But anyways, ill stop
winging now. QNX 6 was supposed to be a replacement for windows in
every
way, so that you would never go back, fat chance that is!

Nakkkkkers!!

“Mario Charest” <> mcharest@zinformatic.com> > wrote in message
news:9i1lq9$i68$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …

“np24” <> np24@blueyonder.co.uk> > wrote in message
news:9hvqdd$dob$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Chill out you! for christ sake!

I’m french and don’t really understand this statement can you clarify
your though and elaborate on your reasoning?



“Stephen Munnings” <> steve@cormantech.com> > wrote in message
news:> MPG.15ad332df0ae60c898968c@inn.qnx.com> …
In article <9hvdks$68c$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, > np24@blueyonder.co.uk
says…
Hello its me again,

QNX rtp 6.1.0, doesnt seem to be too successful, on first
install
it
crashes
whilst, now get this “Building the dynamic font sub system
…PLEASE
WAIT…”, unless of course its supposed to site there for an
eternity??
I
managed to get it to load by pressing random keys on startup,
now
it
wont
work at all, am I missing something, I thought that this
operating
system
was used in medical equipment, i sure wouldnt want that looking
after
me
when im ill, then crashing whilst building its dynmaic font
susbsystem!!


:sunglasses:

Not very likely (crashing like this in the medical equipment)…
Some points…

  1. QNX6.1 is not the OS used in medical equipment (at least not
    yet),
    QNX4.1 is. QNX6 is still getting the kinks ironed out.

  2. The company making the medical equipment would be the ones
    making
    sure
    that there were no problems like this with the OS and the hardware
    combination. It is not as if the medical equipment is just
    “thrown”
    out
    there. It is tested, tested, and tested again.
    After all, did you try to install QNX6.1 on “certified” equipment,
    or
    just any old machine you happened to have lying around at home?
    :sunglasses:

  3. Medical equipment manufacturers are not in the habit of
    upgrading
    the
    version of the OS willy-nilly on field installed equipment without
    considerable testing on identical equipment in the labs first.

Anyway, I bet you really were not seriously worried about medical
equipment just because you are having some problems with a BETA
release
of the OS on an essentially random selection of computer
motherboard
and
peripherals. I think it was just a ploy to get the QSSL employees
attention.

So stop cheating! > :sunglasses: > We all have our problems too! (that we
want
them
to look at)

Have fun…


Niknak!! > :frowning:



\

Stephen Munnings
Software Developer
Corman Technologies Inc.




\

“np24” <np24@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:9i1pip$kce$1@inn.qnx.com

Hmmm??, this statement “Chill out you! for christ sake!” basically means
that I dont want any replies that are structured like this,

\

  1. YOU CANT SAY THAT

I couldn’t find that statement, please specify

  1. MORE ANNOYING DEMANDS

I couldn’t find any annoying demands. Where were they?

  1. YOU ARE 19 AND DONT KNOW ANYTHING!!

I couldn’t find that statement either. But I agree with it.
You’ll most probably change your mind when you’ll get over 30.
That doesn’t mean people over 30 know more it just mean
they know they don’t know… In fact you probably don’t fully
understand the extent of that statement, it’s normal, don’t worry :wink:

  1. QNX IS GREEEAT!!

Greatness is subjective. Saying QNX is great is the truth as much
as saying it sucks. The fact that you don’t want to hear it is totaly
irrelavant
please just ignore it and move on, or has you would probably say
colorfully; “put a sock in it”.

Basically, im not a kid, im 19 and I dont class that as being a kid,

For a 40 years old a 19 years old is a kid, just like a 5 year old
is a kid to you. Again it’s all subjective. There is no need to
feel offended or get defensive.

I have
been developing windows software for 2 years now and was actually quite
excited about developing software for a far more powerful and reliable
operating system. The thing that slows me down is the un-freindliness of
the user interface, the graphics are lovely, but still, graphics dont make
an application especially an operating system. But anyways, ill stop
winging now. QNX 6 was supposed to be a replacement for windows in every
way, so that you would never go back, fat chance that is!

Can you quote the exact word used by the person?
Maybe you missed words like “potential” or “WinCE” or “could be”.
Or maybe that person was just to optimics or misinformed :wink:

Thanks for taking the time to clarify your statement.

Nakkkkkers!!

“Mario Charest” <> mcharest@zinformatic.com> > wrote in message
news:9i1lq9$i68$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …

“np24” <> np24@blueyonder.co.uk> > wrote in message
news:9hvqdd$dob$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Chill out you! for christ sake!

I’m french and don’t really understand this statement can you clarify
your though and elaborate on your reasoning?



“Stephen Munnings” <> steve@cormantech.com> > wrote in message
news:> MPG.15ad332df0ae60c898968c@inn.qnx.com> …
In article <9hvdks$68c$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, > np24@blueyonder.co.uk > says…
Hello its me again,

QNX rtp 6.1.0, doesnt seem to be too successful, on first install
it
crashes
whilst, now get this “Building the dynamic font sub system
…PLEASE
WAIT…”, unless of course its supposed to site there for an
eternity??
I
managed to get it to load by pressing random keys on startup, now
it
wont
work at all, am I missing something, I thought that this operating
system
was used in medical equipment, i sure wouldnt want that looking
after
me
when im ill, then crashing whilst building its dynmaic font
susbsystem!!


:sunglasses:

Not very likely (crashing like this in the medical equipment)…
Some points…

  1. QNX6.1 is not the OS used in medical equipment (at least not
    yet),
    QNX4.1 is. QNX6 is still getting the kinks ironed out.

  2. The company making the medical equipment would be the ones making
    sure
    that there were no problems like this with the OS and the hardware
    combination. It is not as if the medical equipment is just “thrown”
    out
    there. It is tested, tested, and tested again.
    After all, did you try to install QNX6.1 on “certified” equipment,
    or
    just any old machine you happened to have lying around at home? > :sunglasses:

    \

  3. Medical equipment manufacturers are not in the habit of upgrading
    the
    version of the OS willy-nilly on field installed equipment without
    considerable testing on identical equipment in the labs first.

Anyway, I bet you really were not seriously worried about medical
equipment just because you are having some problems with a BETA
release
of the OS on an essentially random selection of computer motherboard
and
peripherals. I think it was just a ploy to get the QSSL employees
attention.

So stop cheating! > :sunglasses: > We all have our problems too! (that we want
them
to look at)

Have fun…


Niknak!! > :frowning:



\

Stephen Munnings
Software Developer
Corman Technologies Inc.


\

In article <9hvqdd$dob$1@inn.qnx.com>, np24@blueyonder.co.uk says…

Chill out you! for christ sake!

Lighten up yourself! Didnya see all the smileys??

It was a joking response, not a heavy put down!
Sure I made some serious points (chust in case you were serious - I kinda
grokked that you were not!)
But overall, it was meant to be about as serious as the post I was
responding to…

Now please - have that fun I mentioned, don’t get ur knickers in a twist!


“Stephen Munnings” <> steve@cormantech.com> > wrote in message
news:> MPG.15ad332df0ae60c898968c@inn.qnx.com> …
In article <9hvdks$68c$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, > np24@blueyonder.co.uk > says…
Hello its me again,

QNX rtp 6.1.0, doesnt seem to be too successful, on first install it
crashes
whilst, now get this “Building the dynamic font sub system …PLEASE
WAIT…”, unless of course its supposed to site there for an eternity??
I
managed to get it to load by pressing random keys on startup, now it
wont
work at all, am I missing something, I thought that this operating
system
was used in medical equipment, i sure wouldnt want that looking after me
when im ill, then crashing whilst building its dynmaic font susbsystem!!


:sunglasses:

Not very likely (crashing like this in the medical equipment)…
Some points…

  1. QNX6.1 is not the OS used in medical equipment (at least not yet),
    QNX4.1 is. QNX6 is still getting the kinks ironed out.

  2. The company making the medical equipment would be the ones making sure
    that there were no problems like this with the OS and the hardware
    combination. It is not as if the medical equipment is just “thrown” out
    there. It is tested, tested, and tested again.
    After all, did you try to install QNX6.1 on “certified” equipment, or
    just any old machine you happened to have lying around at home? > :sunglasses:

  3. Medical equipment manufacturers are not in the habit of upgrading the
    version of the OS willy-nilly on field installed equipment without
    considerable testing on identical equipment in the labs first.

Anyway, I bet you really were not seriously worried about medical
equipment just because you are having some problems with a BETA release
of the OS on an essentially random selection of computer motherboard and
peripherals. I think it was just a ploy to get the QSSL employees
attention.

So stop cheating! > :sunglasses: > We all have our problems too! (that we want them
to look at)

Have fun…


Niknak!! > :frowning:



\

Stephen Munnings
Software Developer
Corman Technologies Inc.
\


Stephen Munnings
Software Developer
Corman Technologies Inc.

In article <9i1pip$kce$1@inn.qnx.com>, np24@blueyonder.co.uk says…

Hmmm??, this statement “Chill out you! for christ sake!” basically means
that I dont want any replies that are structured like this,

  1. YOU CANT SAY THAT
  2. MORE ANNOYING DEMANDS
  3. YOU ARE 19 AND DONT KNOW ANYTHING!!
  4. QNX IS GREEEAT!!

Hmmm?
Actually the post was supposed to read more like:

That statement doesn’t really make good sense in the broader context
<\Mock serious>

But I really think that you weren’t serious about your statement in the
first place
<\Much lighter>

Quit using melodrama to get priority attention from QSSL troubleshooters!
<\All out facetious>

Have fun…
<\Fully sincere>

Just goes to show how written communication is so much more impoverished
that verbal face-to-face communication!

Basically, im not a kid, im 19 and I dont class that as being a kid, I have
been developing windows software for 2 years now and was actually quite
excited about developing software for a far more powerful and reliable
operating system. The thing that slows me down is the un-freindliness of
the user interface, the graphics are lovely, but still, graphics dont make
an application especially an operating system. But anyways, ill stop
winging now. QNX 6 was supposed to be a replacement for windows in every
way, so that you would never go back, fat chance that is!

Nakkkkkers!!

I had no idea what age you were, actually I pictured you as more like
32…
And yes the development tools are not as good for QNX as for some
others platforms…
However, the underlying OS is what I think rocks!
(Then again that depends on what you want it for… for some purposes it
is NOT the very best one. Just the purposes that I am mostly concerned
about)

“Mario Charest” <> mcharest@zinformatic.com> > wrote in message
news:9i1lq9$i68$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …

“np24” <> np24@blueyonder.co.uk> > wrote in message
news:9hvqdd$dob$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Chill out you! for christ sake!

I’m french and don’t really understand this statement can you clarify
your though and elaborate on your reasoning?



“Stephen Munnings” <> steve@cormantech.com> > wrote in message
news:> MPG.15ad332df0ae60c898968c@inn.qnx.com> …
In article <9hvdks$68c$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, > np24@blueyonder.co.uk > says…
Hello its me again,

QNX rtp 6.1.0, doesnt seem to be too successful, on first install it
crashes
whilst, now get this “Building the dynamic font sub system …PLEASE
WAIT…”, unless of course its supposed to site there for an
eternity??
I
managed to get it to load by pressing random keys on startup, now it
wont
work at all, am I missing something, I thought that this operating
system
was used in medical equipment, i sure wouldnt want that looking
after
me
when im ill, then crashing whilst building its dynmaic font
susbsystem!!


:sunglasses:

Not very likely (crashing like this in the medical equipment)…
Some points…

  1. QNX6.1 is not the OS used in medical equipment (at least not yet),
    QNX4.1 is. QNX6 is still getting the kinks ironed out.

  2. The company making the medical equipment would be the ones making
    sure
    that there were no problems like this with the OS and the hardware
    combination. It is not as if the medical equipment is just “thrown”
    out
    there. It is tested, tested, and tested again.
    After all, did you try to install QNX6.1 on “certified” equipment, or
    just any old machine you happened to have lying around at home? > :sunglasses:

  3. Medical equipment manufacturers are not in the habit of upgrading
    the
    version of the OS willy-nilly on field installed equipment without
    considerable testing on identical equipment in the labs first.

Anyway, I bet you really were not seriously worried about medical
equipment just because you are having some problems with a BETA
release
of the OS on an essentially random selection of computer motherboard
and
peripherals. I think it was just a ploy to get the QSSL employees
attention.

So stop cheating! > :sunglasses: > We all have our problems too! (that we want
them
to look at)

Have fun…


Niknak!! > :frowning:



\

Stephen Munnings
Software Developer
Corman Technologies Inc.




\


Stephen Munnings
Software Developer
Corman Technologies Inc.

np24 wrote:

Hmmm??, this statement “Chill out you! for christ sake!” basically means
that I dont want any replies that are structured like this,

  1. YOU CANT SAY THAT
  2. MORE ANNOYING DEMANDS
  3. YOU ARE 19 AND DONT KNOW ANYTHING!!
  4. QNX IS GREEEAT!!

Basically, im not a kid, im 19 and I dont class that as being a kid, I have

There’s very characteristic way of speaking which kids these days use
between themselves. Or may be they always were like that, but I don’t
remember by now, lol. You can consider yourself a grown-up when you
start to notice how unbearably irritating that way of speaking is :wink:

Then I guess, grown-ups sound equally irritating to kids, especially me
right now ;\

  • Igor

I personally think that all of you should stop with the derogitory remarks,
im not typing messages in a certain way to recieve extra attention so dont
be obsurd. If any of you have noticed, this is a qnx new user newsgroup,
myself being a new user, just because my age differs from most of you by
quite a gap doesnt mean that you have to do this, close this thread before
it gets stupid, I ended up with a 52 year old stalker once because of stupid
blatant attacking with is also happening from the likes of you.

Now please drop it.

:frowning:

Sorry if this seems off track but I would like to know if I have offended
anyone, I have been using this newsgroup for a couple of months now and have
found it very informative, its just someone in this newsgroup, (not naming
names) has a grudge on me for some reason, maybe because my posts have been
misread in some way, everyone should know how hard it is to express your
self correctly in an email or any other form of textual communication. But
anyways, if I have offended anyone then I appologuise, except to the
gentleman who so nicely sent me a long email with a great attempt to slate
my character. Thanks for your time in reading this post and sorry that it
isnt QNX related.

Niknak.

I think that the problem is that many people, after years of reading
newsgroups and Slashdot, have learned to recognize what are known as
‘trolls’. I apologize if you already know about this but I will explain
anyway. A troll is someone who makes deliberately inflammatory remarks
(vi rulez…emacs sux…Windowz luzers…Linux doodz are 31337 h4x0rz, etc)
in an attempt to get people riled up and provoke response. Now some trolls
are very clever and do so without being obvious so many people become
offended and start flame wars. This, of course, being great fun for the
troll.

Now I’m not suggesting that you’re trolling but you certainly seem to have
given many of us the IMPRESSION that you are, which amounts to the same
thing. And so, keeping in mind the general newsgroup rule of ‘don’t feed
the trolls’, the best you can hope for is either flames or silence. My
mother always told me, “keep your words sweet and honeyed since you never
know when you’ll have to eat them.” So, if a suggestion would be at all
welcome, I would ask that you try to post in a professional manner and
save the rhetoric and vitriol for the advocacy forum. That is the more
appropriate place for these little flame wars.

cheers,

Kris

np24 <np24@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

Sorry if this seems off track but I would like to know if I have offended
anyone, I have been using this newsgroup for a couple of months now and have
found it very informative, its just someone in this newsgroup, (not naming
names) has a grudge on me for some reason, maybe because my posts have been
misread in some way, everyone should know how hard it is to express your
self correctly in an email or any other form of textual communication. But
anyways, if I have offended anyone then I appologuise, except to the
gentleman who so nicely sent me a long email with a great attempt to slate
my character. Thanks for your time in reading this post and sorry that it
isnt QNX related.

Niknak.


Kris Warkentin
kewarken@qnx.com
(613)591-0836 x9368
“You’re bound to be unhappy if you optimize everything” - Donald Knuth