Looking for an IDE or C editor

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1

To be honest, I’m new to Qnx, it works find, I’m impressed by the quality of
the technical documentation, help files and so on. However, for more than 2
weeks now I try to find out a C Editor or a working IDE and I did’nt find
anything… Here are some results and comments about my experiences

Ped : only for editing, not really a C editor even if some cool stuff have
been added
Jed : not really easy to use for a guy coming from Linux KDE or Win 2000.
There is no project management and obviously it seem you need time before to
become efficient. It seems there is an ide mode but you need to configure a
…jedrc file and I did’nt try it.
XJed : X lib are not installed on my system.
Nedit : see above
Vedit Plus : I’m not ready to pay the prize
Rhide : may be the best one (still in beta). Old fashion looking (remember
Turbo C under DOS ?) but it manage Makefile and projects, had windows etc…
The problem is that I can’t use the mouse with Rhide on my system (I already
sent feedback about it) and it hangs quite often (for examle, trying a scanf
function on my configuration, the keyboard can’t be used and I need to kill
Rhide)

For everyone
Now, I woud like to know what kind of editor/IDE people are using on an
every day basis. For example does most of you use a basic text editor and
manage your project throught Makefile or are you all working with a tool I
did’nt mentioned ? May be I’m wrong (remember I’m discovering QNX) looking
for an efficient IDE please tell me what should I do.

For Qnx people mainly
Finally I would like to point out that in my opinion, one of the big strengh
of KDE was to come with ready to use devt tools. This obviously also apply
to Microsoft (see recent effort about .net). Anyway, yes, I know there is
PhAB (the killing Qnx application) but you know more than me that, even if
it works fine, it is not an IDE.So I’m surprise to see how it is hard, for a
newbee like me, to find a C Editor or IDE and I would suggest to include one
on the next version of distribution CD.

All your advises will be more than welcome. Regards, Philippe

2

Hi Philippe,

I use vim, it has syntax highlighting which is handy.
I can be installed from the WWW Repository, or the QNX 6 CD.

Regards,

Joe

Philippe BAUCOUR <philippe.baucour@ni.com> wrote:

To be honest, I’m new to Qnx, it works find, I’m impressed by the quality of
the technical documentation, help files and so on. However, for more than 2
weeks now I try to find out a C Editor or a working IDE and I did’nt find
anything… Here are some results and comments about my experiences

Ped : only for editing, not really a C editor even if some cool stuff have
been added
Jed : not really easy to use for a guy coming from Linux KDE or Win 2000.
There is no project management and obviously it seem you need time before to
become efficient. It seems there is an ide mode but you need to configure a
.jedrc file and I did’nt try it.
XJed : X lib are not installed on my system.
Nedit : see above
Vedit Plus : I’m not ready to pay the prize
Rhide : may be the best one (still in beta). Old fashion looking (remember
Turbo C under DOS ?) but it manage Makefile and projects, had windows etc…
The problem is that I can’t use the mouse with Rhide on my system (I already
sent feedback about it) and it hangs quite often (for examle, trying a scanf
function on my configuration, the keyboard can’t be used and I need to kill
Rhide)

For everyone
Now, I woud like to know what kind of editor/IDE people are using on an
every day basis. For example does most of you use a basic text editor and
manage your project throught Makefile or are you all working with a tool I
did’nt mentioned ? May be I’m wrong (remember I’m discovering QNX) looking
for an efficient IDE please tell me what should I do.

For Qnx people mainly
Finally I would like to point out that in my opinion, one of the big strengh
of KDE was to come with ready to use devt tools. This obviously also apply
to Microsoft (see recent effort about .net). Anyway, yes, I know there is
PhAB (the killing Qnx application) but you know more than me that, even if
it works fine, it is not an IDE.So I’m surprise to see how it is hard, for a
newbee like me, to find a C Editor or IDE and I would suggest to include one
on the next version of distribution CD.

All your advises will be more than welcome. Regards, Philippe

3

On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:58:36 +0200, “Philippe BAUCOUR”
<philippe.baucour@ni.com> wrote:

To be honest, I’m new to Qnx, it works find, I’m impressed by the quality of
the technical documentation, help files and so on. However, for more than 2
weeks now I try to find out a C Editor or a working IDE and I did’nt find
anything… Here are some results and comments about my experiences

Ped : only for editing, not really a C editor even if some cool stuff have
been added
Jed : not really easy to use for a guy coming from Linux KDE or Win 2000.
There is no project management and obviously it seem you need time before to
become efficient. It seems there is an ide mode but you need to configure a
.jedrc file and I did’nt try it.
XJed : X lib are not installed on my system.
Nedit : see above
Vedit Plus : I’m not ready to pay the prize
Rhide : may be the best one (still in beta). Old fashion looking (remember
Turbo C under DOS ?) but it manage Makefile and projects, had windows etc…
The problem is that I can’t use the mouse with Rhide on my system (I already
sent feedback about it) and it hangs quite often (for examle, trying a scanf
function on my configuration, the keyboard can’t be used and I need to kill
Rhide)

For everyone
Now, I woud like to know what kind of editor/IDE people are using on an
every day basis. For example does most of you use a basic text editor and
manage your project throught Makefile or are you all working with a tool I
did’nt mentioned ? May be I’m wrong (remember I’m discovering QNX) looking
for an efficient IDE please tell me what should I do.
At my site we are in the earliest stages of a QNX6-based project. The

selection of a standard tool set is a great concern and an editor or
IDE is at the top of the priority list. We looked at several editors
and came up with these concusions:
vi (and variants) – personal opinions were 100% against vi.
emacs (the port from the Cogent software folks) – very cool, but
overwhelming for those preferring a small, simple editor.
Nedit – the choice for now. The package available from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/qnxfree relies on X-Photon and
“lesstif” support. It has some occasional quirky behavior but also
many nice features including rectangular region highlighting.
For a true IDE, watch developments at Metrowerks. But I think you
will be limited to cross-development on a Microsoft box.

For Qnx people mainly
Finally I would like to point out that in my opinion, one of the big strengh
of KDE was to come with ready to use devt tools. This obviously also apply
to Microsoft (see recent effort about .net). Anyway, yes, I know there is
PhAB (the killing Qnx application) but you know more than me that, even if
it works fine, it is not an IDE.So I’m surprise to see how it is hard, for a
newbee like me, to find a C Editor or IDE and I would suggest to include one
on the next version of distribution CD.

All your advises will be more than welcome. Regards, Philippe
\

Bob Bottemiller
Stein.DSI/Redmond, WA USA

4

Philippe BAUCOUR <philippe.baucour@ni.com> wrote:

For Qnx people mainly
Finally I would like to point out that in my opinion, one of the big strengh
of KDE was to come with ready to use devt tools. This obviously also apply
to Microsoft (see recent effort about .net). Anyway, yes, I know there is
PhAB (the killing Qnx application) but you know more than me that, even if
it works fine, it is not an IDE.So I’m surprise to see how it is hard, for a
newbee like me, to find a C Editor or IDE and I would suggest to include one
on the next version of distribution CD.

I use vim for editing, and Make for building and grep for searching. I have
yet to find a more powerful combination.

-Adam

5

“Philippe BAUCOUR” <philippe.baucour@ni.com> wrote in message
news:9q3jaj$lf6$1@inn.qnx.com…

To be honest, I’m new to Qnx, it works find, I’m impressed by the quality
of
the technical documentation, help files and so on. However, for more than
2
weeks now I try to find out a C Editor or a working IDE and I did’nt find
anything… Here are some results and comments about my experiences

Ped : only for editing, not really a C editor even if some cool stuff have
been added
Jed : not really easy to use for a guy coming from Linux KDE or Win 2000.
There is no project management and obviously it seem you need time before
to
become efficient. It seems there is an ide mode but you need to configure
a
.jedrc file and I did’nt try it.
XJed : X lib are not installed on my system.
Nedit : see above
Vedit Plus : I’m not ready to pay the prize

AFAIK Vedit is only available for QNX4.

For everyone
Now, I woud like to know what kind of editor/IDE people are using on an
every day basis. For example does most of you use a basic text editor and
manage your project throught Makefile or are you all working with a tool I
did’nt mentioned ? May be I’m wrong (remember I’m discovering QNX) looking
for an efficient IDE please tell me what should I do.

I’m using vim with ctags.

Vim’s problem is the learning curve, but it’s suprisingly power full.

6

Bob Bottemiller wrote:

Nedit – the choice for now. The package available from

Yeah, Nedit is Nirvana Editor :slight_smile:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/qnxfree > relies on X-Photon and
“lesstif” support. It has some occasional quirky behavior but also

It is related to bugs in lesstif and Xphoton. Works perfectly on normal
X server.
If your development has nothing to do with Photon, you could use
Xfree86.

many nice features including rectangular region highlighting.
For a true IDE, watch developments at Metrowerks. But I think you
will be limited to cross-development on a Microsoft box.

Nedit also has ‘server mode’ (see help) which allows it to accept
commands from an external IDE. Many people use that in combination with
Source Navigator, which (I heard) is very powerful TCL/TK based IDE (so
it also would rely on Xphoton).

  • igor
7

There is a repository at
http:://developers.cogentrts.com/rallen/repository (thanks to Cogent
Real-time Systems for hosting the repository) that contains a binary
distribution of Source Navigator 5.0. It is a ported version of Red Hat
Source Navigator 5.0 (thanks to Red Hat for releasing Source Navigator
under the GPL), which is a full-featured IDE. The repository has not
received much testing (due to some technical constraints at my end), but
it should work. If you have problems email me at rallen@csical.com, and
I’ll see what I can do. Being that Source Navigator is implemented
largely in TCL (you don’t require TCL to be installed, it is part of the
SN package) it requires Xphoton.

You can download the source to Source Navigator from
http://sources.redhat.com/sourcenav.

-----Original Message-----
From: Philippe BAUCOUR [mailto:philippe.baucour@ni.com]
Posted At: Thursday, October 11, 2001 12:59 AM
Posted To: newuser
Conversation: Looking for an IDE or C editor
Subject: Looking for an IDE or C editor


To be honest, I’m new to Qnx, it works find, I’m impressed by the
quality of
the technical documentation, help files and so on. However, for more
than 2
weeks now I try to find out a C Editor or a working IDE and I did’nt
find
anything… Here are some results and comments about my experiences

Ped : only for editing, not really a C editor even if some cool stuff
have
been added
Jed : not really easy to use for a guy coming from Linux KDE or Win
2000.
There is no project management and obviously it seem you need time
before to
become efficient. It seems there is an ide mode but you need to
configure a
…jedrc file and I did’nt try it.
XJed : X lib are not installed on my system.
Nedit : see above
Vedit Plus : I’m not ready to pay the prize
Rhide : may be the best one (still in beta). Old fashion looking
(remember
Turbo C under DOS ?) but it manage Makefile and projects, had windows
etc…
The problem is that I can’t use the mouse with Rhide on my system (I
already
sent feedback about it) and it hangs quite often (for examle, trying a
scanf
function on my configuration, the keyboard can’t be used and I need to
kill
Rhide)

For everyone
Now, I woud like to know what kind of editor/IDE people are using on an
every day basis. For example does most of you use a basic text editor
and
manage your project throught Makefile or are you all working with a tool
I
did’nt mentioned ? May be I’m wrong (remember I’m discovering QNX)
looking
for an efficient IDE please tell me what should I do.

For Qnx people mainly
Finally I would like to point out that in my opinion, one of the big
strengh
of KDE was to come with ready to use devt tools. This obviously also
apply
to Microsoft (see recent effort about .net). Anyway, yes, I know there
is
PhAB (the killing Qnx application) but you know more than me that, even
if
it works fine, it is not an IDE.So I’m surprise to see how it is hard,
for a
newbee like me, to find a C Editor or IDE and I would suggest to include
one
on the next version of distribution CD.

All your advises will be more than welcome. Regards, Philippe

8

Rennie…

I tried to get to your page, but it says that I do not have permission.
Maybe access is restricted somehow, or the permissions are messed up? I
appreciate your work here, and I would like to see your port of
SourceNavigator.

Bests…

Miguel.



Rennie Allen wrote:

There is a repository at
http:://developers.cogentrts.com/rallen/repository (thanks to Cogent
Real-time Systems for hosting the repository) that contains a binary
distribution of Source Navigator 5.0. It is a ported version of Red Hat
Source Navigator 5.0 (thanks to Red Hat for releasing Source Navigator
under the GPL), which is a full-featured IDE. The repository has not
received much testing (due to some technical constraints at my end), but
it should work. If you have problems email me at > rallen@csical.com> , and
I’ll see what I can do. Being that Source Navigator is implemented
largely in TCL (you don’t require TCL to be installed, it is part of the
SN package) it requires Xphoton.

You can download the source to Source Navigator from
http://sources.redhat.com/sourcenav> .

-----Original Message-----
From: Philippe BAUCOUR [mailto:> philippe.baucour@ni.com> ]
Posted At: Thursday, October 11, 2001 12:59 AM
Posted To: newuser
Conversation: Looking for an IDE or C editor
Subject: Looking for an IDE or C editor

To be honest, I’m new to Qnx, it works find, I’m impressed by the
quality of
the technical documentation, help files and so on. However, for more
than 2
weeks now I try to find out a C Editor or a working IDE and I did’nt
find
anything… Here are some results and comments about my experiences

Ped : only for editing, not really a C editor even if some cool stuff
have
been added
Jed : not really easy to use for a guy coming from Linux KDE or Win
2000.
There is no project management and obviously it seem you need time
before to
become efficient. It seems there is an ide mode but you need to
configure a
.jedrc file and I did’nt try it.
XJed : X lib are not installed on my system.
Nedit : see above
Vedit Plus : I’m not ready to pay the prize
Rhide : may be the best one (still in beta). Old fashion looking
(remember
Turbo C under DOS ?) but it manage Makefile and projects, had windows
etc…
The problem is that I can’t use the mouse with Rhide on my system (I
already
sent feedback about it) and it hangs quite often (for examle, trying a
scanf
function on my configuration, the keyboard can’t be used and I need to
kill
Rhide)

For everyone
Now, I woud like to know what kind of editor/IDE people are using on an
every day basis. For example does most of you use a basic text editor
and
manage your project throught Makefile or are you all working with a tool
I
did’nt mentioned ? May be I’m wrong (remember I’m discovering QNX)
looking
for an efficient IDE please tell me what should I do.

For Qnx people mainly
Finally I would like to point out that in my opinion, one of the big
strengh
of KDE was to come with ready to use devt tools. This obviously also
apply
to Microsoft (see recent effort about .net). Anyway, yes, I know there
is
PhAB (the killing Qnx application) but you know more than me that, even
if
it works fine, it is not an IDE.So I’m surprise to see how it is hard,
for a
newbee like me, to find a C Editor or IDE and I would suggest to include
one
on the next version of distribution CD.

All your advises will be more than welcome. Regards, Philippe

–

my opinions are mine, only mine, solely mine, and they are not related
in any possible way to the institution(s) in which I study and work.

Miguel Simon
Research Engineer
School of Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering
University of Oklahoma
http://www.amerobotics.ou.edu/
http://www.saic.com

9

I was able to access it with no problem.

Marty

“Miguel Simon” <simon@ou.edu> wrote in message
news:3BC70C1F.CEE3844F@ou.edu…

Rennie…

I tried to get to your page, but it says that I do not have permission.
Maybe access is restricted somehow, or the permissions are messed up? I
appreciate your work here, and I would like to see your port of
SourceNavigator.

Bests…

Miguel.



Rennie Allen wrote:

There is a repository at
http:://developers.cogentrts.com/rallen/repository (thanks to Cogent
Real-time Systems for hosting the repository) that contains a binary
distribution of Source Navigator 5.0. It is a ported version of Red Hat
Source Navigator 5.0 (thanks to Red Hat for releasing Source Navigator
under the GPL), which is a full-featured IDE. The repository has not
received much testing (due to some technical constraints at my end), but
it should work. If you have problems email me at > rallen@csical.com> , and
I’ll see what I can do. Being that Source Navigator is implemented
largely in TCL (you don’t require TCL to be installed, it is part of the
SN package) it requires Xphoton.

You can download the source to Source Navigator from
http://sources.redhat.com/sourcenav> .

-----Original Message-----
From: Philippe BAUCOUR [mailto:> philippe.baucour@ni.com> ]
Posted At: Thursday, October 11, 2001 12:59 AM
Posted To: newuser
Conversation: Looking for an IDE or C editor
Subject: Looking for an IDE or C editor

To be honest, I’m new to Qnx, it works find, I’m impressed by the
quality of
the technical documentation, help files and so on. However, for more
than 2
weeks now I try to find out a C Editor or a working IDE and I did’nt
find
anything… Here are some results and comments about my experiences

Ped : only for editing, not really a C editor even if some cool stuff
have
been added
Jed : not really easy to use for a guy coming from Linux KDE or Win
2000.
There is no project management and obviously it seem you need time
before to
become efficient. It seems there is an ide mode but you need to
configure a
.jedrc file and I did’nt try it.
XJed : X lib are not installed on my system.
Nedit : see above
Vedit Plus : I’m not ready to pay the prize
Rhide : may be the best one (still in beta). Old fashion looking
(remember
Turbo C under DOS ?) but it manage Makefile and projects, had windows
etc…
The problem is that I can’t use the mouse with Rhide on my system (I
already
sent feedback about it) and it hangs quite often (for examle, trying a
scanf
function on my configuration, the keyboard can’t be used and I need to
kill
Rhide)

For everyone
Now, I woud like to know what kind of editor/IDE people are using on an
every day basis. For example does most of you use a basic text editor
and
manage your project throught Makefile or are you all working with a tool
I
did’nt mentioned ? May be I’m wrong (remember I’m discovering QNX)
looking
for an efficient IDE please tell me what should I do.

For Qnx people mainly
Finally I would like to point out that in my opinion, one of the big
strengh
of KDE was to come with ready to use devt tools. This obviously also
apply
to Microsoft (see recent effort about .net). Anyway, yes, I know there
is
PhAB (the killing Qnx application) but you know more than me that, even
if
it works fine, it is not an IDE.So I’m surprise to see how it is hard,
for a
newbee like me, to find a C Editor or IDE and I would suggest to include
one
on the next version of distribution CD.

All your advises will be more than welcome. Regards, Philippe

–

my opinions are mine, only mine, solely mine, and they are not related
in any possible way to the institution(s) in which I study and work.

Miguel Simon
Research Engineer
School of Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering
University of Oklahoma
http://www.amerobotics.ou.edu/
http://www.saic.com

10

On Fri, 12 Oct 2001 11:28:31 -0400, Miguel Simon <simon@ou.edu> wrote:

Rennie…

I tried to get to your page, but it says that I do not have permission.
Maybe access is restricted somehow, or the permissions are messed up? I
appreciate your work here, and I would like to see your port of
SourceNavigator.

I had the same problem.

11

I’ve downloaded SN from Rennie’s repository, and it looks great. However, I
haven’t yet figured out how to launch ddd from SN. If I put “ddd” on the
Xterm line, ddd comes up, but complains “GDB could not be started.” It looks
like SN is invoking ddd with a gazillion command-line options, ddd passes
some of them to gdb, and gdb can’t handle them.

Does anyone know how to set it up?

Thanks,
Marty

“Rennie Allen” <RAllen@csical.com> wrote in message
news:64F00D816A85D51198390050046F80C90103A2@exchangecal.hq.csical.com…

There is a repository at
http:://developers.cogentrts.com/rallen/repository (thanks to Cogent
Real-time Systems for hosting the repository) that contains a binary
distribution of Source Navigator 5.0. It is a ported version of Red Hat
Source Navigator 5.0 (thanks to Red Hat for releasing Source Navigator
under the GPL), which is a full-featured IDE. The repository has not
received much testing (due to some technical constraints at my end), but
it should work. If you have problems email me at > rallen@csical.com> , and
I’ll see what I can do. Being that Source Navigator is implemented
largely in TCL (you don’t require TCL to be installed, it is part of the
SN package) it requires Xphoton.

You can download the source to Source Navigator from
http://sources.redhat.com/sourcenav> .

12

Looks good. But If I try to display any help for it I get a messsage on the
text console that launched Photon that says it couldn’t load NetScape. How
can I view help files?

“Rennie Allen” <RAllen@csical.com> wrote in message
news:64F00D816A85D51198390050046F80C90103A2@exchangecal.hq.csical.com…

There is a repository at
http:://developers.cogentrts.com/rallen/repository (thanks to Cogent
Real-time Systems for hosting the repository) that contains a binary
distribution of Source Navigator 5.0. It is a ported version of Red Hat
Source Navigator 5.0 (thanks to Red Hat for releasing Source Navigator
under the GPL), which is a full-featured IDE. The repository has not
received much testing (due to some technical constraints at my end), but
it should work. If you have problems email me at > rallen@csical.com> , and
I’ll see what I can do. Being that Source Navigator is implemented
largely in TCL (you don’t require TCL to be installed, it is part of the
SN package) it requires Xphoton.

You can download the source to Source Navigator from
http://sources.redhat.com/sourcenav> .

-----Original Message-----
From: Philippe BAUCOUR [mailto:> philippe.baucour@ni.com> ]
Posted At: Thursday, October 11, 2001 12:59 AM
Posted To: newuser
Conversation: Looking for an IDE or C editor
Subject: Looking for an IDE or C editor


To be honest, I’m new to Qnx, it works find, I’m impressed by the
quality of
the technical documentation, help files and so on. However, for more
than 2
weeks now I try to find out a C Editor or a working IDE and I did’nt
find
anything… Here are some results and comments about my experiences

Ped : only for editing, not really a C editor even if some cool stuff
have
been added
Jed : not really easy to use for a guy coming from Linux KDE or Win
2000.
There is no project management and obviously it seem you need time
before to
become efficient. It seems there is an ide mode but you need to
configure a
.jedrc file and I did’nt try it.
XJed : X lib are not installed on my system.
Nedit : see above
Vedit Plus : I’m not ready to pay the prize
Rhide : may be the best one (still in beta). Old fashion looking
(remember
Turbo C under DOS ?) but it manage Makefile and projects, had windows
etc…
The problem is that I can’t use the mouse with Rhide on my system (I
already
sent feedback about it) and it hangs quite often (for examle, trying a
scanf
function on my configuration, the keyboard can’t be used and I need to
kill
Rhide)

For everyone
Now, I woud like to know what kind of editor/IDE people are using on an
every day basis. For example does most of you use a basic text editor
and
manage your project throught Makefile or are you all working with a tool
I
did’nt mentioned ? May be I’m wrong (remember I’m discovering QNX)
looking
for an efficient IDE please tell me what should I do.

For Qnx people mainly
Finally I would like to point out that in my opinion, one of the big
strengh
of KDE was to come with ready to use devt tools. This obviously also
apply
to Microsoft (see recent effort about .net). Anyway, yes, I know there
is
PhAB (the killing Qnx application) but you know more than me that, even
if
it works fine, it is not an IDE.So I’m surprise to see how it is hard,
for a
newbee like me, to find a C Editor or IDE and I would suggest to include
one
on the next version of distribution CD.

All your advises will be more than welcome. Regards, Philippe

13

Hi Marty, Bill…

When did you download SN from Rennie’s? How? Which browser did you
use? What is the exact address that you used? Since you have it, can
you upload it to qnxstart.com with permission from Rennie?? I keep
getting access denied message… :frowning:

regards…

Miguel.


Marty Doane wrote:

I’ve downloaded SN from Rennie’s repository, and it looks great. However, I
haven’t yet figured out how to launch ddd from SN. If I put “ddd” on the
Xterm line, ddd comes up, but complains “GDB could not be started.” It looks
like SN is invoking ddd with a gazillion command-line options, ddd passes
some of them to gdb, and gdb can’t handle them.

Does anyone know how to set it up?

Thanks,
Marty

“Rennie Allen” <> RAllen@csical.com> > wrote in message
news:> 64F00D816A85D51198390050046F80C90103A2@exchangecal.hq.csical.com> …
There is a repository at
http:://developers.cogentrts.com/rallen/repository (thanks to Cogent
Real-time Systems for hosting the repository) that contains a binary
distribution of Source Navigator 5.0. It is a ported version of Red Hat
Source Navigator 5.0 (thanks to Red Hat for releasing Source Navigator
under the GPL), which is a full-featured IDE. The repository has not
received much testing (due to some technical constraints at my end), but
it should work. If you have problems email me at > rallen@csical.com> , and
I’ll see what I can do. Being that Source Navigator is implemented
largely in TCL (you don’t require TCL to be installed, it is part of the
SN package) it requires Xphoton.

You can download the source to Source Navigator from
http://sources.redhat.com/sourcenav> .

–

my opinions are mine, only mine, solely mine, and they are not related
in any possible way to the institution(s) in which I study and work.

Miguel Simon
Research Engineer
School of Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering
University of Oklahoma
http://www.amerobotics.ou.edu/
http://www.saic.com

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It is a repository, not a web page.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Cellarius [mailto:acellarius@systems104.co.za]
Posted At: Friday, October 12, 2001 12:56 PM
Posted To: newuser
Conversation: Looking for an IDE or C editor
Subject: Re: Looking for an IDE or C editor


On Fri, 12 Oct 2001 11:28:31 -0400, Miguel Simon <simon@ou.edu> wrote:

Rennie…

I tried to get to your page, but it says that I do not have
permission.
Maybe access is restricted somehow, or the permissions are messed up?
I
appreciate your work here, and I would like to see your port of
SourceNavigator.

I had the same problem.

15

I accessed it from the QNX 6 package installer. I "Add"ed a repository with
the location http://developers.cogentrts.com/rallen/repository

“Miguel Simon” <simon@ou.edu> wrote in message
news:3BCB01F9.FED798A0@ou.edu…

Hi Marty, Bill…

When did you download SN from Rennie’s? How? Which browser did you
use? What is the exact address that you used? Since you have it, can
you upload it to qnxstart.com with permission from Rennie?? I keep
getting access denied message… > :frowning:

regards…

Miguel.


Marty Doane wrote:

I’ve downloaded SN from Rennie’s repository, and it looks great.
However, I
haven’t yet figured out how to launch ddd from SN. If I put “ddd” on the
Xterm line, ddd comes up, but complains “GDB could not be started.” It
looks
like SN is invoking ddd with a gazillion command-line options, ddd
passes
some of them to gdb, and gdb can’t handle them.

Does anyone know how to set it up?

Thanks,
Marty

“Rennie Allen” <> RAllen@csical.com> > wrote in message
news:> 64F00D816A85D51198390050046F80C90103A2@exchangecal.hq.csical.com> …
There is a repository at
http:://developers.cogentrts.com/rallen/repository (thanks to Cogent
Real-time Systems for hosting the repository) that contains a binary
distribution of Source Navigator 5.0. It is a ported version of Red
Hat
Source Navigator 5.0 (thanks to Red Hat for releasing Source Navigator
under the GPL), which is a full-featured IDE. The repository has not
received much testing (due to some technical constraints at my end),
but
it should work. If you have problems email me at > rallen@csical.com> ,
and
I’ll see what I can do. Being that Source Navigator is implemented
largely in TCL (you don’t require TCL to be installed, it is part of
the
SN package) it requires Xphoton.

You can download the source to Source Navigator from
http://sources.redhat.com/sourcenav> .

\

my opinions are mine, only mine, solely mine, and they are not related
in any possible way to the institution(s) in which I study and work.

Miguel Simon
Research Engineer
School of Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering
University of Oklahoma
http://www.amerobotics.ou.edu/
http://www.saic.com

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That’s controlled in “File” “Project Preferences” “Others” “HTML viewer”.
Unfortunately, I don’t know what you should set it to. If you find out, let
us know. Rennie?

Marty

“Bill Caroselli (Q-TPS)” <qtps@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:9qeov3$gou$1@inn.qnx.com…

Looks good. But If I try to display any help for it I get a messsage on
the
text console that launched Photon that says it couldn’t load NetScape.
How
can I view help files?

“Rennie Allen” <> RAllen@csical.com> > wrote in message
news:> 64F00D816A85D51198390050046F80C90103A2@exchangecal.hq.csical.com> …
There is a repository at
http:://developers.cogentrts.com/rallen/repository (thanks to Cogent
Real-time Systems for hosting the repository) that contains a binary
distribution of Source Navigator 5.0. It is a ported version of Red Hat
Source Navigator 5.0 (thanks to Red Hat for releasing Source Navigator
under the GPL), which is a full-featured IDE. The repository has not
received much testing (due to some technical constraints at my end), but
it should work. If you have problems email me at > rallen@csical.com> , and
I’ll see what I can do. Being that Source Navigator is implemented
largely in TCL (you don’t require TCL to be installed, it is part of the
SN package) it requires Xphoton.

You can download the source to Source Navigator from
http://sources.redhat.com/sourcenav> .

-----Original Message-----
From: Philippe BAUCOUR [mailto:> philippe.baucour@ni.com> ]
Posted At: Thursday, October 11, 2001 12:59 AM
Posted To: newuser
Conversation: Looking for an IDE or C editor
Subject: Looking for an IDE or C editor


To be honest, I’m new to Qnx, it works find, I’m impressed by the
quality of
the technical documentation, help files and so on. However, for more
than 2
weeks now I try to find out a C Editor or a working IDE and I did’nt
find
anything… Here are some results and comments about my experiences

Ped : only for editing, not really a C editor even if some cool stuff
have
been added
Jed : not really easy to use for a guy coming from Linux KDE or Win
2000.
There is no project management and obviously it seem you need time
before to
become efficient. It seems there is an ide mode but you need to
configure a
.jedrc file and I did’nt try it.
XJed : X lib are not installed on my system.
Nedit : see above
Vedit Plus : I’m not ready to pay the prize
Rhide : may be the best one (still in beta). Old fashion looking
(remember
Turbo C under DOS ?) but it manage Makefile and projects, had windows
etc…
The problem is that I can’t use the mouse with Rhide on my system (I
already
sent feedback about it) and it hangs quite often (for examle, trying a
scanf
function on my configuration, the keyboard can’t be used and I need to
kill
Rhide)

For everyone
Now, I woud like to know what kind of editor/IDE people are using on an
every day basis. For example does most of you use a basic text editor
and
manage your project throught Makefile or are you all working with a tool
I
did’nt mentioned ? May be I’m wrong (remember I’m discovering QNX)
looking
for an efficient IDE please tell me what should I do.

For Qnx people mainly
Finally I would like to point out that in my opinion, one of the big
strengh
of KDE was to come with ready to use devt tools. This obviously also
apply
to Microsoft (see recent effort about .net). Anyway, yes, I know there
is
PhAB (the killing Qnx application) but you know more than me that, even
if
it works fine, it is not an IDE.So I’m surprise to see how it is hard,
for a
newbee like me, to find a C Editor or IDE and I would suggest to include
one
on the next version of distribution CD.

All your advises will be more than welcome. Regards, Philippe

\

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The documentation is in /opt/html, and also on the redhat site listed below.

Marty

“Marty Doane” <marty.doane@rapistan.com> wrote in message
news:9qf2un$mav$1@inn.qnx.com…

That’s controlled in “File” “Project Preferences” “Others” “HTML viewer”.
Unfortunately, I don’t know what you should set it to. If you find out,
let
us know. Rennie?

Marty

“Bill Caroselli (Q-TPS)” <> qtps@earthlink.net> > wrote in message
news:9qeov3$gou$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Looks good. But If I try to display any help for it I get a messsage on
the
text console that launched Photon that says it couldn’t load NetScape.
How
can I view help files?

“Rennie Allen” <> RAllen@csical.com> > wrote in message
news:> 64F00D816A85D51198390050046F80C90103A2@exchangecal.hq.csical.com> …
There is a repository at
http:://developers.cogentrts.com/rallen/repository (thanks to Cogent
Real-time Systems for hosting the repository) that contains a binary
distribution of Source Navigator 5.0. It is a ported version of Red
Hat
Source Navigator 5.0 (thanks to Red Hat for releasing Source Navigator
under the GPL), which is a full-featured IDE. The repository has not
received much testing (due to some technical constraints at my end),
but
it should work. If you have problems email me at > rallen@csical.com> ,
and
I’ll see what I can do. Being that Source Navigator is implemented
largely in TCL (you don’t require TCL to be installed, it is part of
the
SN package) it requires Xphoton.

You can download the source to Source Navigator from
http://sources.redhat.com/sourcenav> .

-----Original Message-----
From: Philippe BAUCOUR [mailto:> philippe.baucour@ni.com> ]
Posted At: Thursday, October 11, 2001 12:59 AM
Posted To: newuser
Conversation: Looking for an IDE or C editor
Subject: Looking for an IDE or C editor


To be honest, I’m new to Qnx, it works find, I’m impressed by the
quality of
the technical documentation, help files and so on. However, for more
than 2
weeks now I try to find out a C Editor or a working IDE and I did’nt
find
anything… Here are some results and comments about my experiences

Ped : only for editing, not really a C editor even if some cool stuff
have
been added
Jed : not really easy to use for a guy coming from Linux KDE or Win
2000.
There is no project management and obviously it seem you need time
before to
become efficient. It seems there is an ide mode but you need to
configure a
.jedrc file and I did’nt try it.
XJed : X lib are not installed on my system.
Nedit : see above
Vedit Plus : I’m not ready to pay the prize
Rhide : may be the best one (still in beta). Old fashion looking
(remember
Turbo C under DOS ?) but it manage Makefile and projects, had windows
etc…
The problem is that I can’t use the mouse with Rhide on my system (I
already
sent feedback about it) and it hangs quite often (for examle, trying a
scanf
function on my configuration, the keyboard can’t be used and I need to
kill
Rhide)

For everyone
Now, I woud like to know what kind of editor/IDE people are using on
an
every day basis. For example does most of you use a basic text editor
and
manage your project throught Makefile or are you all working with a
tool
I
did’nt mentioned ? May be I’m wrong (remember I’m discovering QNX)
looking
for an efficient IDE please tell me what should I do.

For Qnx people mainly
Finally I would like to point out that in my opinion, one of the big
strengh
of KDE was to come with ready to use devt tools. This obviously also
apply
to Microsoft (see recent effort about .net). Anyway, yes, I know there
is
PhAB (the killing Qnx application) but you know more than me that,
even
if
it works fine, it is not an IDE.So I’m surprise to see how it is hard,
for a
newbee like me, to find a C Editor or IDE and I would suggest to
include
one
on the next version of distribution CD.

All your advises will be more than welcome. Regards, Philippe



\

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Marty…

Humm…, ok, I was trying to download a .qpr file, so I’ll try with the
installer later. Thanks.

Miguel.


Marty Doane wrote:

I accessed it from the QNX 6 package installer. I "Add"ed a repository with
the location > http://developers.cogentrts.com/rallen/repository

“Miguel Simon” <> simon@ou.edu> > wrote in message
news:> 3BCB01F9.FED798A0@ou.edu> …
Hi Marty, Bill…

When did you download SN from Rennie’s? How? Which browser did you
use? What is the exact address that you used? Since you have it, can
you upload it to qnxstart.com with permission from Rennie?? I keep
getting access denied message… > :frowning:

regards…

Miguel.


Marty Doane wrote:

I’ve downloaded SN from Rennie’s repository, and it looks great.
However, I
haven’t yet figured out how to launch ddd from SN. If I put “ddd” on the
Xterm line, ddd comes up, but complains “GDB could not be started.” It
looks
like SN is invoking ddd with a gazillion command-line options, ddd
passes
some of them to gdb, and gdb can’t handle them.

Does anyone know how to set it up?

Thanks,
Marty

“Rennie Allen” <> RAllen@csical.com> > wrote in message
news:> 64F00D816A85D51198390050046F80C90103A2@exchangecal.hq.csical.com> …
There is a repository at
http:://developers.cogentrts.com/rallen/repository (thanks to Cogent
Real-time Systems for hosting the repository) that contains a binary
distribution of Source Navigator 5.0. It is a ported version of Red
Hat
Source Navigator 5.0 (thanks to Red Hat for releasing Source Navigator
under the GPL), which is a full-featured IDE. The repository has not
received much testing (due to some technical constraints at my end),
but
it should work. If you have problems email me at > rallen@csical.com> ,
and
I’ll see what I can do. Being that Source Navigator is implemented
largely in TCL (you don’t require TCL to be installed, it is part of
the
SN package) it requires Xphoton.

You can download the source to Source Navigator from
http://sources.redhat.com/sourcenav> .

\

my opinions are mine, only mine, solely mine, and they are not related
in any possible way to the institution(s) in which I study and work.

Miguel Simon
Research Engineer
School of Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering
University of Oklahoma
http://www.amerobotics.ou.edu/
http://www.saic.com

–

my opinions are mine, only mine, solely mine, and they are not related
in any possible way to the institution(s) in which I study and work.

Miguel Simon
Research Engineer
School of Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering
University of Oklahoma
http://www.amerobotics.ou.edu/
http://www.saic.com

19

“Marty Doane” <marty.doane@rapistan.com> wrote in message
news:9qf2kb$m2v$1@inn.qnx.com…

I accessed it from the QNX 6 package installer. I "Add"ed a repository
with
the location > http://developers.cogentrts.com/rallen/repository

Ditto.

I did not use a browser.

20

In order to be able to launch voyager from SN (rather than the default
netscape) simply open “File->Project Preferences”, and select the other
tab. In the field labeled “HTML viewer” type “voyager -u %s”.

-----Original Message-----
From: Marty Doane [mailto:marty.doane@rapistan.com]
Posted At: Monday, October 15, 2001 9:48 AM
Posted To: newuser
Conversation: Looking for an IDE or C editor
Subject: Re: Looking for an IDE or C editor


The documentation is in /opt/html, and also on the redhat site listed
below.

Marty

“Marty Doane” <marty.doane@rapistan.com> wrote in message
news:9qf2un$mav$1@inn.qnx.com…

That’s controlled in “File” “Project Preferences” “Others” “HTML
viewer”.
Unfortunately, I don’t know what you should set it to. If you find
out,

let

us know. Rennie?

Marty

“Bill Caroselli (Q-TPS)” <> qtps@earthlink.net> > wrote in message
news:9qeov3$gou$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Looks good. But If I try to display any help for it I get a
messsage on
the
text console that launched Photon that says it couldn’t load
NetScape.
How
can I view help files?

“Rennie Allen” <> RAllen@csical.com> > wrote in message

news:> 64F00D816A85D51198390050046F80C90103A2@exchangecal.hq.csical.com> …
There is a repository at
http:://developers.cogentrts.com/rallen/repository (thanks to
Cogent
Real-time Systems for hosting the repository) that contains a
binary
distribution of Source Navigator 5.0. It is a ported version of
Red

Hat

Source Navigator 5.0 (thanks to Red Hat for releasing Source
Navigator
under the GPL), which is a full-featured IDE. The repository has
not
received much testing (due to some technical constraints at my
end),

but

it should work. If you have problems email me at
rallen@csical.com> ,

and

I’ll see what I can do. Being that Source Navigator is
implemented
largely in TCL (you don’t require TCL to be installed, it is part
of

the

SN package) it requires Xphoton.

You can download the source to Source Navigator from
http://sources.redhat.com/sourcenav> .

-----Original Message-----
From: Philippe BAUCOUR [mailto:> philippe.baucour@ni.com> ]
Posted At: Thursday, October 11, 2001 12:59 AM
Posted To: newuser
Conversation: Looking for an IDE or C editor
Subject: Looking for an IDE or C editor


To be honest, I’m new to Qnx, it works find, I’m impressed by the
quality of
the technical documentation, help files and so on. However, for
more
than 2
weeks now I try to find out a C Editor or a working IDE and I
did’nt
find
anything… Here are some results and comments about my
experiences

Ped : only for editing, not really a C editor even if some cool
stuff
have
been added
Jed : not really easy to use for a guy coming from Linux KDE or
Win
2000.
There is no project management and obviously it seem you need time
before to
become efficient. It seems there is an ide mode but you need to
configure a
.jedrc file and I did’nt try it.
XJed : X lib are not installed on my system.
Nedit : see above
Vedit Plus : I’m not ready to pay the prize
Rhide : may be the best one (still in beta). Old fashion looking
(remember
Turbo C under DOS ?) but it manage Makefile and projects, had
windows
etc…
The problem is that I can’t use the mouse with Rhide on my system
(I
already
sent feedback about it) and it hangs quite often (for examle,
trying a
scanf
function on my configuration, the keyboard can’t be used and I
need to
kill
Rhide)

For everyone
Now, I woud like to know what kind of editor/IDE people are using
on

an

every day basis. For example does most of you use a basic text
editor
and
manage your project throught Makefile or are you all working with
a

tool

I
did’nt mentioned ? May be I’m wrong (remember I’m discovering QNX)
looking
for an efficient IDE please tell me what should I do.

For Qnx people mainly
Finally I would like to point out that in my opinion, one of the
big
strengh
of KDE was to come with ready to use devt tools. This obviously
also
apply
to Microsoft (see recent effort about .net). Anyway, yes, I know
there
is
PhAB (the killing Qnx application) but you know more than me that,
even
if
it works fine, it is not an IDE.So I’m surprise to see how it is
hard,
for a
newbee like me, to find a C Editor or IDE and I would suggest to
include
one
on the next version of distribution CD.

All your advises will be more than welcome. Regards, Philippe



\