devc-con in 6.1 boot

I just installed the qnxrtp.exe of 6.1 on my windows system. I put it in
the D: partition (which is, btw, in an extended partition)… it
automatically installed to d:\program files\qnx but I moved it to d:\qnx,
updated config.sys and any other similar files I could find which mentioned
program files. However, upon boot, I get:
Loading D:\QNX\BOOT\FS\ROOT.QFS
Hit Esc for .altboot
Loading D:\QNX\BOOT\FS\QNXBAS~1.IFS

(etcetc)
Detected EIDE. Scanning for devices.
/.diskroot file for root not found on any file system.
Starting with safe mode.
Unable to locate devc-con

I get this booting off of a floppy, too. Verbose mode gives me no clue.
It mounts the dos file systems in /fs and goes to that. I looked at
qdn.qnx.com and got this:
http://qdn.qnx.com/support/bok/solution.qnx?10353
Isn’t much help. My HD is definitely the primary master. Using the F2
option didn’t do much. Help, please. Thanks.

–Charles

Oh, in addition, I would much rather prefer not having to use c:, as
space on it is quite limited. I have a spare 3500MB on my disk, which I’m
trying to figure out how to make into a primary partition. I have one
primary dos partition, and 4 logical partitions in an extended partition. I
deleted one of them, using dos fdisk, and tried to establish it as a primary
partition (considering up to 4 primary are supposed to be allowed on a
single drive). Bzzt, no go. “Disk already has a primary dos partition.”
shrugs

“Charles” <chalz@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:9v2u0s$ac8$1@inn.qnx.com

I just installed the qnxrtp.exe of 6.1 on my windows system. I put it in
the D: partition (which is, btw, in an extended partition)… it
automatically installed to d:\program files\qnx but I moved it to d:\qnx,
updated config.sys and any other similar files I could find which
mentioned
program files. However, upon boot, I get:
Loading D:\QNX\BOOT\FS\ROOT.QFS
Hit Esc for .altboot
Loading D:\QNX\BOOT\FS\QNXBAS~1.IFS

(etcetc)
Detected EIDE. Scanning for devices.
/.diskroot file for root not found on any file system.
Starting with safe mode.
Unable to locate devc-con

I get this booting off of a floppy, too. Verbose mode gives me no
clue.
It mounts the dos file systems in /fs and goes to that. I looked at
qdn.qnx.com and got this:
http://qdn.qnx.com/support/bok/solution.qnx?10353
Isn’t much help. My HD is definitely the primary master. Using the F2
option didn’t do much. Help, please. Thanks.

–Charles

Hi Charles,

Check out the following link. It should explain what you have
to do:

http://qdn.qnx.com/articles/jul0601/upgrade.html

Erick.



Charles <chalz@earthlink.net> wrote:

Oh, in addition, I would much rather prefer not having to use c:, as
space on it is quite limited. I have a spare 3500MB on my disk, which I’m
trying to figure out how to make into a primary partition. I have one
primary dos partition, and 4 logical partitions in an extended partition. I
deleted one of them, using dos fdisk, and tried to establish it as a primary
partition (considering up to 4 primary are supposed to be allowed on a
single drive). Bzzt, no go. “Disk already has a primary dos partition.”
shrugs

“Charles” <> chalz@earthlink.net> > wrote in message
news:9v2u0s$ac8$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
I just installed the qnxrtp.exe of 6.1 on my windows system. I put it in
the D: partition (which is, btw, in an extended partition)… it
automatically installed to d:\program files\qnx but I moved it to d:\qnx,
updated config.sys and any other similar files I could find which
mentioned
program files. However, upon boot, I get:
Loading D:\QNX\BOOT\FS\ROOT.QFS
Hit Esc for .altboot
Loading D:\QNX\BOOT\FS\QNXBAS~1.IFS

(etcetc)
Detected EIDE. Scanning for devices.
/.diskroot file for root not found on any file system.
Starting with safe mode.
Unable to locate devc-con

I get this booting off of a floppy, too. Verbose mode gives me no
clue.
It mounts the dos file systems in /fs and goes to that. I looked at
qdn.qnx.com and got this:
http://qdn.qnx.com/support/bok/solution.qnx?10353
Isn’t much help. My HD is definitely the primary master. Using the F2
option didn’t do much. Help, please. Thanks.

–Charles

chuckles I was (finally) able to download all of the messages for this
and the installation groups, and did a search. After a couple different
keywords, I came across this link. Have written the info down and performed
the downloads - now to try them. I’ll let you know how it works…

–Charles

Hi Charles,

Check out the following link. It should explain what you have
to do:

http://qdn.qnx.com/articles/jul0601/upgrade.html

Erick.



Charles <> chalz@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Oh, in addition, I would much rather prefer not having to use c:, as
space on it is quite limited. I have a spare 3500MB on my disk, which
I’m
trying to figure out how to make into a primary partition. I have one
primary dos partition, and 4 logical partitions in an extended
partition. I
deleted one of them, using dos fdisk, and tried to establish it as a
primary
partition (considering up to 4 primary are supposed to be allowed on a
single drive). Bzzt, no go. “Disk already has a primary dos
partition.”
shrugs

“Charles” <> chalz@earthlink.net> > wrote in message
news:9v2u0s$ac8$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
I just installed the qnxrtp.exe of 6.1 on my windows system. I put it
in
the D: partition (which is, btw, in an extended partition)… it
automatically installed to d:\program files\qnx but I moved it to
d:\qnx,
updated config.sys and any other similar files I could find which
mentioned
program files. However, upon boot, I get:
Loading D:\QNX\BOOT\FS\ROOT.QFS
Hit Esc for .altboot
Loading D:\QNX\BOOT\FS\QNXBAS~1.IFS

(etcetc)
Detected EIDE. Scanning for devices.
/.diskroot file for root not found on any file system.
Starting with safe mode.
Unable to locate devc-con

I get this booting off of a floppy, too. Verbose mode gives me no
clue.
It mounts the dos file systems in /fs and goes to that. I looked at
qdn.qnx.com and got this:
http://qdn.qnx.com/support/bok/solution.qnx?10353
Isn’t much help. My HD is definitely the primary master. Using the
F2
option didn’t do much. Help, please. Thanks.

–Charles
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Sorry, didn’t work. I did the floppy fix and downloaded the upgrade QPR,
then hit reboot. Space->F1->F4 … “Unable to locate devc-con”. Not that it
can’t start it, but that it can’t locate it. Followed the same procedure,
but booting from the floppy. No go.
In case it was a bad root.qfs at first, I re-grew it, but that didn’t fix
it. Even still, if I boot off of floppy, doesn’t that exclude the necessity
of the HD? Or does the floppy still require QNX to be on the HD?
Could anything else I’ve mentioned be the source? The partition is not
primary - I moved it to (and re-grew it in) D:\QNX instead of progra~1…
Should I try booting without DMA?
In the past, I’ve had RTP on my drive when it was pre-6.0, using the Win
installer. I then installed 6.0 on the whole 2.5GB drive by itself (no
other OS available to the whole computer but QNX), upgrading through to
6.0C, without trouble. I’m now working on a partitioned 20GB Maxtor drive.
Any info useful. Thanks.

–Charles

Hi Charles,

Check out the following link. It should explain what you have
to do:

http://qdn.qnx.com/articles/jul0601/upgrade.html

Erick.



Charles <> chalz@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Oh, in addition, I would much rather prefer not having to use c:, as
space on it is quite limited. I have a spare 3500MB on my disk, which
I’m
trying to figure out how to make into a primary partition. I have one
primary dos partition, and 4 logical partitions in an extended
partition. I
deleted one of them, using dos fdisk, and tried to establish it as a
primary
partition (considering up to 4 primary are supposed to be allowed on a
single drive). Bzzt, no go. “Disk already has a primary dos
partition.”
shrugs

“Charles” <> chalz@earthlink.net> > wrote in message
news:9v2u0s$ac8$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
I just installed the qnxrtp.exe of 6.1 on my windows system. I put it
in
the D: partition (which is, btw, in an extended partition)… it
automatically installed to d:\program files\qnx but I moved it to
d:\qnx,
updated config.sys and any other similar files I could find which
mentioned
program files. However, upon boot, I get:
Loading D:\QNX\BOOT\FS\ROOT.QFS
Hit Esc for .altboot
Loading D:\QNX\BOOT\FS\QNXBAS~1.IFS

(etcetc)
Detected EIDE. Scanning for devices.
/.diskroot file for root not found on any file system.
Starting with safe mode.
Unable to locate devc-con

I get this booting off of a floppy, too. Verbose mode gives me no
clue.
It mounts the dos file systems in /fs and goes to that. I looked at
qdn.qnx.com and got this:
http://qdn.qnx.com/support/bok/solution.qnx?10353
Isn’t much help. My HD is definitely the primary master. Using the
F2
option didn’t do much. Help, please. Thanks.

–Charles
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Hi Charles,

Charles <chalz@earthlink.net> wrote in article <9v2u7r$akd$1@inn.qnx.com>…

Oh, in addition, I would much rather prefer not having to use c:, as
space on it is quite limited. I have a spare 3500MB on my disk, which I’m
trying to figure out how to make into a primary partition. I have one
primary dos partition, and 4 logical partitions in an extended partition. I
deleted one of them, using dos fdisk, and tried to establish it as a primary
partition (considering up to 4 primary are supposed to be allowed on a
single drive). Bzzt, no go. “Disk already has a primary dos partition.”
shrugs

It’s normal behaviour of dos fdisk :wink:. You’re mixing two kind of installation here. I’m not
familiar with installation QNX on dos partition into file. But if you have free logical partition
on drive you could delete it (dos fdisk is suitable) and create new primary partition on free place
(dose’s fdisk isn’t suitable to do it). To create second primary partition on drive you have to use
qnx’s fdisk (from installation CD).
I don’t see any abnormalies in the follow drive map:
1- primary fat
2- extended (indifferently how many logical drives in this partition, it’s ocuppied only one mbr’s
entry)
3- primary qnx.


Best regards,
Eduard.

primary - I moved it to (and re-grew it in) D:\QNX instead of progra~1…

You’re installing into FAT partition, right?

The “diskboot” program included in the boot image searches in
*:\progra~1\boot*.fs for qnx4 file image, so it won’t work.

Check out the help pages of “diskboot”.
If you WANT them to be in D:\QNX then you’ll need to
custom build the boot *.ifs image.

kabe

primary - I moved it to (and re-grew it in) D:\QNX instead of
progra~1…

You’re installing into FAT partition, right?
Yeah, FAT32… No NTFS.



The “diskboot” program included in the boot image searches in
*:\progra~1\boot*.fs for qnx4 file image, so it won’t work.
Doh!! Bleh. Oh well. So much for complete configurability.



Check out the help pages of “diskboot”.
If you WANT them to be in D:\QNX then you’ll need to
custom build the boot *.ifs image.
Hrrrm… I’ll take a look into this. I just kind of assumed it’d been

left to read info out of an ascii config file, or just search the local
drive or whatnot. Oh well. Thanks for the info, though.

-C


kabe

It’s normal behaviour of dos fdisk > :wink:> . You’re mixing two kind of
installation here. I’m not
familiar with installation QNX on dos partition into file. But if you have
free logical partition

That was kind of the default installation method earlier on. In fact, it
wasn’t ever really made clear how to install to a partition at the
beginning. I’ve been toying with RTP on and off since they first released
it, pre-6.0…

on drive you could delete it (dos fdisk is suitable) and create new
primary partition on free place
(dose’s fdisk isn’t suitable to do it). To create second primary partition
on drive you have to use
qnx’s fdisk (from installation CD).
Mmm… That’s originally why I tried to reboot into QNX. I was looking at

FreeBSD, and it said it wanted to install to a primary partition. DOS fdisk
let me delete the logical, but not create a primary. So I’d already
installed QNX, thought I’d use the fdisk there. Heh heh heh.

I don’t see any abnormalies in the follow drive map:
1- primary fat
2- extended (indifferently how many logical drives in this partition, it’s
ocuppied only one mbr’s
entry)
3- primary qnx.
I’m not all that familiar with hard disk

architecture/setup/partitioning… can I “move”, so to speak, freed space
“out” of the extended partition? Ie, I deleted a 3500MB logical partition
from within the extended - is it now space which is available for me outside
for a primary? I ran the bootup installation/setup software which came with
my 20GB Maxtor, and it said all space was taken up, despite my having
deleted that logical partition…
Thanks all.

–Charles

Best regards,
Eduard.

Hello Sir Charles,
What ages it has been!

Sir Charles <nospam@chalz-of-internetusa.net> wrote in article <9vab7p$lce$1@inn.qnx.com>…
<…>

I’m not all that familiar with hard disk
architecture/setup/partitioning… can I “move”, so to speak, freed space
“out” of the extended partition?

Yes.

Ie, I deleted a 3500MB logical partition
from within the extended - is it now space which is available for me outside
for a primary? I ran the bootup installation/setup software which came with
my 20GB Maxtor, and it said all space was taken up, despite my having
deleted that logical partition…

Take a look at Partition Magic (pqmagic) by PowerQuest. IMO it’s more reliable way. Sorry, I don’t
remember url.

Eduard.

Thanks all.

–Charles



Best regards,
Eduard.
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