Tyan Tomcat Won't Boot

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1

Well, Patch A didn’t fix it. After a Windows install, I get no dots at all,
just the cursor in the upper left corner. Then nothing. Is there anything I
can do to try to pin this down?

Thanks,
Marty

----- Original Message -----
From: “Marty Doane” <mdoane@i2k.com>
Newsgroups: qdn.public.qnxrtp.installation
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: Tyan Tomcat Won’t Boot


pete@qnx.com> > wrote in message news:8s61ol$g8h$> 4@inn.qnx.com> …
Marty Doane <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote:
ping…

“Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote in message
news:8s1i6k$qdm$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
My CD showed up in the mail yesterday. > :slight_smile:
My system won’t boot. > :frowning:

I’ve got an S1564S Tyan Tomcat IV motherboard with an Award BIOS.
AMD K6-233
64 MB RAM
Primary master - Maxtor 5.6 GB LBA UDMA 2
Primary slave open
Secondary master - WDC 1.6 GB PIO Mode 4
Secondary slave - Creative CDROM, Mode 3
Creative SB32 Audio with built-in PnP IDE controller using Int 10
(nothing
connected).
D-Link DFE-530TX+ ethernet card.
Zoom internal modem on COM4.
Ditto internal tape drive.

I’ve tried installing both the Sept CD and the Windows download with
the
same results. I’ve installed to both C and D with the same results.
I’ve
tried dumbing down every BIOS setting I can think of with no
improvement.
I’ve tried disabling the D drive in the BIOS. I’ve tried both the DMA
boot
and the non-DMA boot.

The install seems to go fine. When I try to boot through Windows I
immediately get a clear screen with the text cursor in the upper left
corner, then no further activity.

If I try to boot off the CD, I get a row and a half of dots, then the
cursor
advances to the next line, then no further activity.

If I try to boot off a floppy, It’s pretty much the same as the CD.

Try removing the Audio card.

One of the first things RTP will do is init your EIDE controllers. No
controllers, no ball game.

Other than that, what kind of IDE controllers are your main controllers?
You may be in trouble if they are UDMA 66 controllers.

OK, I took everything out except the video. No change.
The IDE controllers are on the motherboard. They support UDMA but not
UDMA66. I set them to PIO Mode 0. No change. I did not see the hard drive
ac
cess light come on at all during the floppy boot.
I disabled all IDE controllers and booted off the floppy. No change.
I disabled all integrated peripherals and the cache. No change.
At this point the only thing left enabled is video and one floppy.
The video is an ATI All-In-Wonder 128 16 MB PCI.
The CPU is a K6-233.

Is it possible to get a more verbose boot floppy?

Thanks,
Marty

2

When I boot from a floppy, I get the “Press ESC…”, the row and a half of
dots, the cursor on a new line, then it’s hung.
Pressing ESC makes no discernible difference.

  1. Any idea what the problem is?
  2. If not, can I create a better-instrumented boot disk to figure it out?

Thanks,
Marty

“Marty Doane” <mdoane@i2k.com> wrote in message
news:948423$lom$1@inn.qnx.com…

Well, Patch A didn’t fix it. After a Windows install, I get no dots at
all,
just the cursor in the upper left corner. Then nothing. Is there anything
I
can do to try to pin this down?

Thanks,
Marty

----- Original Message -----
From: “Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com
Newsgroups: qdn.public.qnxrtp.installation
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: Tyan Tomcat Won’t Boot



pete@qnx.com> > wrote in message news:8s61ol$g8h$> 4@inn.qnx.com> …
Marty Doane <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote:
ping…

“Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote in message
news:8s1i6k$qdm$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
My CD showed up in the mail yesterday. > :slight_smile:
My system won’t boot. > :frowning:

I’ve got an S1564S Tyan Tomcat IV motherboard with an Award BIOS.
AMD K6-233
64 MB RAM
Primary master - Maxtor 5.6 GB LBA UDMA 2
Primary slave open
Secondary master - WDC 1.6 GB PIO Mode 4
Secondary slave - Creative CDROM, Mode 3
Creative SB32 Audio with built-in PnP IDE controller using Int 10
(nothing
connected).
D-Link DFE-530TX+ ethernet card.
Zoom internal modem on COM4.
Ditto internal tape drive.

I’ve tried installing both the Sept CD and the Windows download
with
the
same results. I’ve installed to both C and D with the same results.
I’ve
tried dumbing down every BIOS setting I can think of with no
improvement.
I’ve tried disabling the D drive in the BIOS. I’ve tried both the
DMA
boot
and the non-DMA boot.

The install seems to go fine. When I try to boot through Windows I
immediately get a clear screen with the text cursor in the upper
left
corner, then no further activity.

If I try to boot off the CD, I get a row and a half of dots, then
the
cursor
advances to the next line, then no further activity.

If I try to boot off a floppy, It’s pretty much the same as the CD.

Try removing the Audio card.

One of the first things RTP will do is init your EIDE controllers. No
controllers, no ball game.

Other than that, what kind of IDE controllers are your main
controllers?
You may be in trouble if they are UDMA 66 controllers.

OK, I took everything out except the video. No change.
The IDE controllers are on the motherboard. They support UDMA but not
UDMA66. I set them to PIO Mode 0. No change. I did not see the hard
drive
ac
cess light come on at all during the floppy boot.
I disabled all IDE controllers and booted off the floppy. No change.
I disabled all integrated peripherals and the cache. No change.
At this point the only thing left enabled is video and one floppy.
The video is an ATI All-In-Wonder 128 16 MB PCI.
The CPU is a K6-233.

Is it possible to get a more verbose boot floppy?

Thanks,
Marty
\

3

Any chance I could get a QSSL comment on this?

Thanks,
Marty

“Marty Doane” <mdoane@i2k.com> wrote in message
news:94iuvv$chk$1@inn.qnx.com…

When I boot from a floppy, I get the “Press ESC…”, the row and a half of
dots, the cursor on a new line, then it’s hung.
Pressing ESC makes no discernible difference.

  1. Any idea what the problem is?
  2. If not, can I create a better-instrumented boot disk to figure it out?

Thanks,
Marty

“Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote in message
news:948423$lom$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Well, Patch A didn’t fix it. After a Windows install, I get no dots at
all,
just the cursor in the upper left corner. Then nothing. Is there
anything
I
can do to try to pin this down?

Thanks,
Marty

----- Original Message -----
From: “Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com
Newsgroups: qdn.public.qnxrtp.installation
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: Tyan Tomcat Won’t Boot



pete@qnx.com> > wrote in message news:8s61ol$g8h$> 4@inn.qnx.com> …
Marty Doane <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote:
ping…

“Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote in message
news:8s1i6k$qdm$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
My CD showed up in the mail yesterday. > :slight_smile:
My system won’t boot. > :frowning:

I’ve got an S1564S Tyan Tomcat IV motherboard with an Award BIOS.
AMD K6-233
64 MB RAM
Primary master - Maxtor 5.6 GB LBA UDMA 2
Primary slave open
Secondary master - WDC 1.6 GB PIO Mode 4
Secondary slave - Creative CDROM, Mode 3
Creative SB32 Audio with built-in PnP IDE controller using Int 10
(nothing
connected).
D-Link DFE-530TX+ ethernet card.
Zoom internal modem on COM4.
Ditto internal tape drive.

I’ve tried installing both the Sept CD and the Windows download
with
the
same results. I’ve installed to both C and D with the same
results.
I’ve
tried dumbing down every BIOS setting I can think of with no
improvement.
I’ve tried disabling the D drive in the BIOS. I’ve tried both the
DMA
boot
and the non-DMA boot.

The install seems to go fine. When I try to boot through Windows
I
immediately get a clear screen with the text cursor in the upper
left
corner, then no further activity.

If I try to boot off the CD, I get a row and a half of dots, then
the
cursor
advances to the next line, then no further activity.

If I try to boot off a floppy, It’s pretty much the same as the
CD.

Try removing the Audio card.

One of the first things RTP will do is init your EIDE controllers.
No
controllers, no ball game.

Other than that, what kind of IDE controllers are your main
controllers?
You may be in trouble if they are UDMA 66 controllers.

OK, I took everything out except the video. No change.
The IDE controllers are on the motherboard. They support UDMA but not
UDMA66. I set them to PIO Mode 0. No change. I did not see the hard
drive
ac
cess light come on at all during the floppy boot.
I disabled all IDE controllers and booted off the floppy. No change.
I disabled all integrated peripherals and the cache. No change.
At this point the only thing left enabled is video and one floppy.
The video is an ATI All-In-Wonder 128 16 MB PCI.
The CPU is a K6-233.

Is it possible to get a more verbose boot floppy?

Thanks,
Marty


\

4

Twelve days and counting…

“Marty Doane” <mdoane@i2k.com> wrote in message
news:94qq6l$c8b$1@inn.qnx.com…

Any chance I could get a QSSL comment on this?

Thanks,
Marty

“Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote in message
news:94iuvv$chk$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
When I boot from a floppy, I get the “Press ESC…”, the row and a half
of
dots, the cursor on a new line, then it’s hung.
Pressing ESC makes no discernible difference.

  1. Any idea what the problem is?
  2. If not, can I create a better-instrumented boot disk to figure it
    out?

Thanks,
Marty

“Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote in message
news:948423$lom$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Well, Patch A didn’t fix it. After a Windows install, I get no dots at
all,
just the cursor in the upper left corner. Then nothing. Is there
anything
I
can do to try to pin this down?

Thanks,
Marty

----- Original Message -----
From: “Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com
Newsgroups: qdn.public.qnxrtp.installation
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: Tyan Tomcat Won’t Boot



pete@qnx.com> > wrote in message news:8s61ol$g8h$> 4@inn.qnx.com> …
Marty Doane <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote:
ping…

“Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote in message
news:8s1i6k$qdm$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
My CD showed up in the mail yesterday. > :slight_smile:
My system won’t boot. > :frowning:

I’ve got an S1564S Tyan Tomcat IV motherboard with an Award
BIOS.
AMD K6-233
64 MB RAM
Primary master - Maxtor 5.6 GB LBA UDMA 2
Primary slave open
Secondary master - WDC 1.6 GB PIO Mode 4
Secondary slave - Creative CDROM, Mode 3
Creative SB32 Audio with built-in PnP IDE controller using Int
10
(nothing
connected).
D-Link DFE-530TX+ ethernet card.
Zoom internal modem on COM4.
Ditto internal tape drive.

I’ve tried installing both the Sept CD and the Windows download
with
the
same results. I’ve installed to both C and D with the same
results.
I’ve
tried dumbing down every BIOS setting I can think of with no
improvement.
I’ve tried disabling the D drive in the BIOS. I’ve tried both
the
DMA
boot
and the non-DMA boot.

The install seems to go fine. When I try to boot through
Windows
I
immediately get a clear screen with the text cursor in the
upper
left
corner, then no further activity.

If I try to boot off the CD, I get a row and a half of dots,
then
the
cursor
advances to the next line, then no further activity.

If I try to boot off a floppy, It’s pretty much the same as the
CD.

Try removing the Audio card.

One of the first things RTP will do is init your EIDE controllers.
No
controllers, no ball game.

Other than that, what kind of IDE controllers are your main
controllers?
You may be in trouble if they are UDMA 66 controllers.

OK, I took everything out except the video. No change.
The IDE controllers are on the motherboard. They support UDMA but
not
UDMA66. I set them to PIO Mode 0. No change. I did not see the hard
drive
ac
cess light come on at all during the floppy boot.
I disabled all IDE controllers and booted off the floppy. No change.
I disabled all integrated peripherals and the cache. No change.
At this point the only thing left enabled is video and one floppy.
The video is an ATI All-In-Wonder 128 16 MB PCI.
The CPU is a K6-233.

Is it possible to get a more verbose boot floppy?

Thanks,
Marty




\

5

Hi Marty,

Sorry, we have all been working on a getting stuff done and all of
us haven’t gotten a chance to catch up on the newsgroups.

At this moment we are not sure why this isn’t working. I talked to
the developer of pci-bios, and he was saying that Patch A had a
copy of pci-bios from October in it (this was intentional as we
froze it back then for the patch). Since then there has been a
ton of fixes for it.

The problem is that if the pci-bios doesn’t work, then diskboot
(which relys on /dev/pci being present) won’t work either, and
diskboot is what loads up the .qfs file.

Has there been any other reader that has a Tyan Tomcat and has
it working?



Marty Doane <doanemr@remove_rapistan.com> wrote:

Twelve days and counting…

“Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote in message
news:94qq6l$c8b$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Any chance I could get a QSSL comment on this?

Thanks,
Marty

“Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote in message
news:94iuvv$chk$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
When I boot from a floppy, I get the “Press ESC…”, the row and a half
of
dots, the cursor on a new line, then it’s hung.
Pressing ESC makes no discernible difference.

  1. Any idea what the problem is?
  2. If not, can I create a better-instrumented boot disk to figure it
    out?

Thanks,
Marty

“Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote in message
news:948423$lom$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Well, Patch A didn’t fix it. After a Windows install, I get no dots at
all,
just the cursor in the upper left corner. Then nothing. Is there
anything
I
can do to try to pin this down?

Thanks,
Marty

----- Original Message -----
From: “Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com
Newsgroups: qdn.public.qnxrtp.installation
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: Tyan Tomcat Won’t Boot



pete@qnx.com> > wrote in message news:8s61ol$g8h$> 4@inn.qnx.com> …
Marty Doane <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote:
ping…

“Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote in message
news:8s1i6k$qdm$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
My CD showed up in the mail yesterday. > :slight_smile:
My system won’t boot. > :frowning:

I’ve got an S1564S Tyan Tomcat IV motherboard with an Award
BIOS.
AMD K6-233
64 MB RAM
Primary master - Maxtor 5.6 GB LBA UDMA 2
Primary slave open
Secondary master - WDC 1.6 GB PIO Mode 4
Secondary slave - Creative CDROM, Mode 3
Creative SB32 Audio with built-in PnP IDE controller using Int
10
(nothing
connected).
D-Link DFE-530TX+ ethernet card.
Zoom internal modem on COM4.
Ditto internal tape drive.

I’ve tried installing both the Sept CD and the Windows download
with
the
same results. I’ve installed to both C and D with the same
results.
I’ve
tried dumbing down every BIOS setting I can think of with no
improvement.
I’ve tried disabling the D drive in the BIOS. I’ve tried both
the
DMA
boot
and the non-DMA boot.

The install seems to go fine. When I try to boot through
Windows
I
immediately get a clear screen with the text cursor in the
upper
left
corner, then no further activity.

If I try to boot off the CD, I get a row and a half of dots,
then
the
cursor
advances to the next line, then no further activity.

If I try to boot off a floppy, It’s pretty much the same as the
CD.

Try removing the Audio card.

One of the first things RTP will do is init your EIDE controllers.
No
controllers, no ball game.

Other than that, what kind of IDE controllers are your main
controllers?
You may be in trouble if they are UDMA 66 controllers.

OK, I took everything out except the video. No change.
The IDE controllers are on the motherboard. They support UDMA but
not
UDMA66. I set them to PIO Mode 0. No change. I did not see the hard
drive
ac
cess light come on at all during the floppy boot.
I disabled all IDE controllers and booted off the floppy. No change.
I disabled all integrated peripherals and the cache. No change.
At this point the only thing left enabled is video and one floppy.
The video is an ATI All-In-Wonder 128 16 MB PCI.
The CPU is a K6-233.

Is it possible to get a more verbose boot floppy?

Thanks,
Marty




\

6

Thanks for the reply. I’m (obviously) also quite interested in whether
others have had any success.

If there’s anything I can do, or use something you can give me to instrument
this better, I’m interested.

Thanks,
Marty

“Hardware Support Account” <hw@qnx.com> wrote in message
news:956qkf$rb3$1@nntp.qnx.com…

Hi Marty,

Sorry, we have all been working on a getting stuff done and all of
us haven’t gotten a chance to catch up on the newsgroups.

At this moment we are not sure why this isn’t working. I talked to
the developer of pci-bios, and he was saying that Patch A had a
copy of pci-bios from October in it (this was intentional as we
froze it back then for the patch). Since then there has been a
ton of fixes for it.

The problem is that if the pci-bios doesn’t work, then diskboot
(which relys on /dev/pci being present) won’t work either, and
diskboot is what loads up the .qfs file.

Has there been any other reader that has a Tyan Tomcat and has
it working?



Marty Doane <doanemr@remove_rapistan.com> wrote:
Twelve days and counting…

“Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote in message
news:94qq6l$c8b$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Any chance I could get a QSSL comment on this?

Thanks,
Marty

“Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote in message
news:94iuvv$chk$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
When I boot from a floppy, I get the “Press ESC…”, the row and a
half
of
dots, the cursor on a new line, then it’s hung.
Pressing ESC makes no discernible difference.

  1. Any idea what the problem is?
  2. If not, can I create a better-instrumented boot disk to figure it
    out?

Thanks,
Marty

“Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote in message
news:948423$lom$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Well, Patch A didn’t fix it. After a Windows install, I get no dots
at
all,
just the cursor in the upper left corner. Then nothing. Is there
anything
I
can do to try to pin this down?

Thanks,
Marty

----- Original Message -----
From: “Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com
Newsgroups: qdn.public.qnxrtp.installation
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: Tyan Tomcat Won’t Boot



pete@qnx.com> > wrote in message news:8s61ol$g8h$> 4@inn.qnx.com> …
Marty Doane <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote:
ping…

“Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote in message
news:8s1i6k$qdm$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
My CD showed up in the mail yesterday. > :slight_smile:
My system won’t boot. > :frowning:

I’ve got an S1564S Tyan Tomcat IV motherboard with an Award
BIOS.
AMD K6-233
64 MB RAM
Primary master - Maxtor 5.6 GB LBA UDMA 2
Primary slave open
Secondary master - WDC 1.6 GB PIO Mode 4
Secondary slave - Creative CDROM, Mode 3
Creative SB32 Audio with built-in PnP IDE controller using
Int
10
(nothing
connected).
D-Link DFE-530TX+ ethernet card.
Zoom internal modem on COM4.
Ditto internal tape drive.

I’ve tried installing both the Sept CD and the Windows
download
with
the
same results. I’ve installed to both C and D with the same
results.
I’ve
tried dumbing down every BIOS setting I can think of with no
improvement.
I’ve tried disabling the D drive in the BIOS. I’ve tried
both
the
DMA
boot
and the non-DMA boot.

The install seems to go fine. When I try to boot through
Windows
I
immediately get a clear screen with the text cursor in the
upper
left
corner, then no further activity.

If I try to boot off the CD, I get a row and a half of dots,
then
the
cursor
advances to the next line, then no further activity.

If I try to boot off a floppy, It’s pretty much the same as
the
CD.

Try removing the Audio card.

One of the first things RTP will do is init your EIDE
controllers.
No
controllers, no ball game.

Other than that, what kind of IDE controllers are your main
controllers?
You may be in trouble if they are UDMA 66 controllers.

OK, I took everything out except the video. No change.
The IDE controllers are on the motherboard. They support UDMA but
not
UDMA66. I set them to PIO Mode 0. No change. I did not see the
hard
drive
ac
cess light come on at all during the floppy boot.
I disabled all IDE controllers and booted off the floppy. No
change.
I disabled all integrated peripherals and the cache. No change.
At this point the only thing left enabled is video and one
floppy.
The video is an ATI All-In-Wonder 128 16 MB PCI.
The CPU is a K6-233.

Is it possible to get a more verbose boot floppy?

Thanks,
Marty






\

7

I guess I’m all alone :frowning:(

Anybody want to buy a Tyan Tomcat? :slight_smile:)

Marty

“Marty Doane” <doanemr@REMOVE_rapistan.com> wrote in message
news:956tfu$pql$1@inn.qnx.com…

Thanks for the reply. I’m (obviously) also quite interested in whether
others have had any success.

If there’s anything I can do, or use something you can give me to
instrument
this better, I’m interested.

Thanks,
Marty

“Hardware Support Account” <> hw@qnx.com> > wrote in message
news:956qkf$rb3$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> …
Hi Marty,

Sorry, we have all been working on a getting stuff done and all of
us haven’t gotten a chance to catch up on the newsgroups.

At this moment we are not sure why this isn’t working. I talked to
the developer of pci-bios, and he was saying that Patch A had a
copy of pci-bios from October in it (this was intentional as we
froze it back then for the patch). Since then there has been a
ton of fixes for it.

The problem is that if the pci-bios doesn’t work, then diskboot
(which relys on /dev/pci being present) won’t work either, and
diskboot is what loads up the .qfs file.

Has there been any other reader that has a Tyan Tomcat and has
it working?



Marty Doane <doanemr@remove_rapistan.com> wrote:
Twelve days and counting…

“Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote in message
news:94qq6l$c8b$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Any chance I could get a QSSL comment on this?

Thanks,
Marty

“Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote in message
news:94iuvv$chk$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
When I boot from a floppy, I get the “Press ESC…”, the row and a
half
of
dots, the cursor on a new line, then it’s hung.
Pressing ESC makes no discernible difference.

  1. Any idea what the problem is?
  2. If not, can I create a better-instrumented boot disk to figure
    it
    out?

Thanks,
Marty

“Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote in message
news:948423$lom$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Well, Patch A didn’t fix it. After a Windows install, I get no
dots
at
all,
just the cursor in the upper left corner. Then nothing. Is there
anything
I
can do to try to pin this down?

Thanks,
Marty

----- Original Message -----
From: “Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com
Newsgroups: qdn.public.qnxrtp.installation
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: Tyan Tomcat Won’t Boot



pete@qnx.com> > wrote in message
news:8s61ol$g8h$> 4@inn.qnx.com> …
Marty Doane <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote:
ping…

“Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote in message
news:8s1i6k$qdm$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
My CD showed up in the mail yesterday. > :slight_smile:
My system won’t boot. > :frowning:

I’ve got an S1564S Tyan Tomcat IV motherboard with an
Award
BIOS.
AMD K6-233
64 MB RAM
Primary master - Maxtor 5.6 GB LBA UDMA 2
Primary slave open
Secondary master - WDC 1.6 GB PIO Mode 4
Secondary slave - Creative CDROM, Mode 3
Creative SB32 Audio with built-in PnP IDE controller using
Int
10
(nothing
connected).
D-Link DFE-530TX+ ethernet card.
Zoom internal modem on COM4.
Ditto internal tape drive.

I’ve tried installing both the Sept CD and the Windows
download
with
the
same results. I’ve installed to both C and D with the same
results.
I’ve
tried dumbing down every BIOS setting I can think of with
no
improvement.
I’ve tried disabling the D drive in the BIOS. I’ve tried
both
the
DMA
boot
and the non-DMA boot.

The install seems to go fine. When I try to boot through
Windows
I
immediately get a clear screen with the text cursor in the
upper
left
corner, then no further activity.

If I try to boot off the CD, I get a row and a half of
dots,
then
the
cursor
advances to the next line, then no further activity.

If I try to boot off a floppy, It’s pretty much the same
as
the
CD.

Try removing the Audio card.

One of the first things RTP will do is init your EIDE
controllers.
No
controllers, no ball game.

Other than that, what kind of IDE controllers are your main
controllers?
You may be in trouble if they are UDMA 66 controllers.

OK, I took everything out except the video. No change.
The IDE controllers are on the motherboard. They support UDMA
but
not
UDMA66. I set them to PIO Mode 0. No change. I did not see the
hard
drive
ac
cess light come on at all during the floppy boot.
I disabled all IDE controllers and booted off the floppy. No
change.
I disabled all integrated peripherals and the cache. No change.
At this point the only thing left enabled is video and one
floppy.
The video is an ATI All-In-Wonder 128 16 MB PCI.
The CPU is a K6-233.

Is it possible to get a more verbose boot floppy?

Thanks,
Marty








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Marty Doane <doanemr@remove_rapistan.com> wrote:

I guess I’m all alone > :frowning:> (

Anybody want to buy a Tyan Tomcat? > :slight_smile:> )

Don’t sell it until next month.

9

Thanks Pete, that’s what I wanted to hear.

<pete@qnx.com> wrote in message news:95ev2r$jtv$1@nntp.qnx.com…

Marty Doane <doanemr@remove_rapistan.com> wrote:
I guess I’m all alone > :frowning:> (

Anybody want to buy a Tyan Tomcat? > :slight_smile:> )

Don’t sell it until next month.

10

Nope, you’re not all alone. :wink: (I’ve just been to busy getting my new
job to check this group that often lately…)

I was the other person having problems getting QNX to install onto a
Tyan Tomcat MB. In my case (no pun intended), I have a S1562D (Tomcat
II, dual pentium (socket7)) that I bought back in '96, and I get the
same problem Marty does.

I don’t know if it has any relation, but when I attempted to install
RedHat Linux (ver 6.1 and 6.2) on this computer I found that having only
one CPU on a dual CPU MB was confusing the linux installer even though
the jumpers were set for “only one CPU” per the MB manual. (It was
installing the SMP kernel and then trying to access both CPUs and
failing since I only had one processor on the board at that time).
About a month ago I spent 50$US and upgraded my single Pentium 133MHz
CPU to two Pentium 166MHz machines, and after that linux installed fine.

I hope this helps …

Larry Robinson
krenshala@jump.net


Marty Doane wrote:

I guess I’m all alone > :frowning:> (

Anybody want to buy a Tyan Tomcat? > :slight_smile:> )

Marty

“Marty Doane” <doanemr@REMOVE_rapistan.com> wrote in message
news:956tfu$pql$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …

Thanks for the reply. I’m (obviously) also quite interested in whether
others have had any success.

If there’s anything I can do, or use something you can give me to

instrument

this better, I’m interested.

Thanks,
Marty

“Hardware Support Account” <> hw@qnx.com> > wrote in message
news:956qkf$rb3$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> …

Hi Marty,

Sorry, we have all been working on a getting stuff done and all of
us haven’t gotten a chance to catch up on the newsgroups.

At this moment we are not sure why this isn’t working. I talked to
the developer of pci-bios, and he was saying that Patch A had a
copy of pci-bios from October in it (this was intentional as we
froze it back then for the patch). Since then there has been a
ton of fixes for it.

The problem is that if the pci-bios doesn’t work, then diskboot
(which relys on /dev/pci being present) won’t work either, and
diskboot is what loads up the .qfs file.

Has there been any other reader that has a Tyan Tomcat and has
it working?



Marty Doane <doanemr@remove_rapistan.com> wrote:

Twelve days and counting…

“Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote in message
news:94qq6l$c8b$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …

Any chance I could get a QSSL comment on this?

Thanks,
Marty

“Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote in message
news:94iuvv$chk$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …

When I boot from a floppy, I get the “Press ESC…”, the row and a

half

of

dots, the cursor on a new line, then it’s hung.
Pressing ESC makes no discernible difference.

  1. Any idea what the problem is?
  2. If not, can I create a better-instrumented boot disk to figure

it

out?

Thanks,
Marty

“Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote in message
news:948423$lom$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …

Well, Patch A didn’t fix it. After a Windows install, I get no

dots

at

all,

just the cursor in the upper left corner. Then nothing. Is there

anything

I

can do to try to pin this down?

Thanks,
Marty

----- Original Message -----
From: “Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com
Newsgroups: qdn.public.qnxrtp.installation
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: Tyan Tomcat Won’t Boot



pete@qnx.com> > wrote in message

news:8s61ol$g8h$> 4@inn.qnx.com> …

Marty Doane <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote:

ping…

“Marty Doane” <> mdoane@i2k.com> > wrote in message
news:8s1i6k$qdm$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …

My CD showed up in the mail yesterday. > :slight_smile:
My system won’t boot. > :frowning:

I’ve got an S1564S Tyan Tomcat IV motherboard with an

Award

BIOS.

AMD K6-233
64 MB RAM
Primary master - Maxtor 5.6 GB LBA UDMA 2
Primary slave open
Secondary master - WDC 1.6 GB PIO Mode 4
Secondary slave - Creative CDROM, Mode 3
Creative SB32 Audio with built-in PnP IDE controller using

Int

10

(nothing

connected).
D-Link DFE-530TX+ ethernet card.
Zoom internal modem on COM4.
Ditto internal tape drive.

I’ve tried installing both the Sept CD and the Windows

download

with

the

same results. I’ve installed to both C and D with the same

results.

I’ve

tried dumbing down every BIOS setting I can think of with

no

improvement.

I’ve tried disabling the D drive in the BIOS. I’ve tried

both

the

DMA

boot

and the non-DMA boot.

The install seems to go fine. When I try to boot through

Windows

I

immediately get a clear screen with the text cursor in the

upper

left

corner, then no further activity.

If I try to boot off the CD, I get a row and a half of

dots,

then

the

cursor

advances to the next line, then no further activity.

If I try to boot off a floppy, It’s pretty much the same

as

the

CD.

Try removing the Audio card.

One of the first things RTP will do is init your EIDE

controllers.

No

controllers, no ball game.

Other than that, what kind of IDE controllers are your main

controllers?

You may be in trouble if they are UDMA 66 controllers.

OK, I took everything out except the video. No change.
The IDE controllers are on the motherboard. They support UDMA

but

not

UDMA66. I set them to PIO Mode 0. No change. I did not see the

hard

drive

ac

cess light come on at all during the floppy boot.
I disabled all IDE controllers and booted off the floppy. No

change.

I disabled all integrated peripherals and the cache. No change.
At this point the only thing left enabled is video and one

floppy.

The video is an ATI All-In-Wonder 128 16 MB PCI.
The CPU is a K6-233.

Is it possible to get a more verbose boot floppy?

Thanks,
Marty




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I have a Tyan Tomcat S1562S single cpu AMD K6-III 400, 96 meg ,S3Trio64, 20
gig IBM HD have had the identical problem as Marty. Hane had no luck with
various settings. I hope someone can work it out.

“Marty Doane” <doanemr@REMOVE_rapistan.com> wrote in message
news:956tfu$pql$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …

Thanks for the reply. I’m (obviously) also quite interested in whether
others have had any success.

If there’s anything I can do, or use something you can give me to

instrument

this better, I’m interested.

Thanks,
Marty

“Hardware Support Account” <> hw@qnx.com> > wrote in message
news:956qkf$rb3$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> …