QNX RTP Patch A and SCSI?

Hi.
Sorry, if thas has been asked beore, but I thought the Patch A release
of RTP was able to boot off of SCSI devices?
I just downloaded the RTP ISO from get.qnx.com, burned, and - the CD
didn’t buut.
The last I see is “Press ESC for alternate OS.C” (no typo)

??

Any ideas?
Or is this still the old bootloader?

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There’s no secret to balance. You just have to feel the waves.

Darwi Odrade

Ronny.

The “C” means that the boot image is outside the 1024 cylindar boundry.

Ronn Schoebel <ronny@l61.de> wrote in message
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Hi.
Sorry, if thas has been asked beore, but I thought the Patch A release
of RTP was able to boot off of SCSI devices?
I just downloaded the RTP ISO from get.qnx.com, burned, and - the CD
didn’t buut.
The last I see is “Press ESC for alternate OS.C” (no typo)

??

Any ideas?
Or is this still the old bootloader?

\

There’s no secret to balance. You just have to feel the waves.

Darwi Odrade

Ronny.

Hi,

I had the same disappointing experience first. After making a boot diskette
under windows and booting from it I could install QNXRTP from SCSI-CD. The
scsi-driver will be loaded during diskette boot.
Not good but better than before.

Regards,
Roland



“Ronn Schoebel” <ronny@l61.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:PM00037B3DCEFBB621@kira.hammer-net

Hi.
Sorry, if thas has been asked beore, but I thought the Patch A release
of RTP was able to boot off of SCSI devices?
I just downloaded the RTP ISO from get.qnx.com, burned, and - the CD
didn’t buut.
The last I see is “Press ESC for alternate OS.C” (no typo)

??

Any ideas?
Or is this still the old bootloader?

\

There’s no secret to balance. You just have to feel the waves.

Darwi Odrade

Ronny.

Bill at Sierra Design wrote:

The “C” means that the boot image is outside the 1024 cylindar
boundry.

On the CD?

This is the exact downloaded qnxrtp.iso…
I don’t have a floppy, so how am I supposed to boot?
The only option is my SCSI CD drive…


There’s no secret to balance. You just have to feel the waves.

Darwi Odrade

Ronny.

Roland Henkel wrote:

Hi,

I had the same disappointing experience first. After making a boot
diskette
under windows and booting from it I could install QNXRTP from SCSI-CD.
The
scsi-driver will be loaded during diskette boot.
Not good but better than before.

Regards,
Roland

So, that really means, I have to put a disk drive into my box… sigh

But I don’t really understand it, why it should work from floppy, but
not CD…
I always thought the CD used the boot-floppy image to boot itself.


There’s no secret to balance. You just have to feel the waves.

Darwi Odrade

Ronny.

Hi,

I don’t understand it, too. The only reason I could think is that the boot
image on CD is different from that on floppy disk. But why should it be so?

May be it will be useful to burn a new bootable CD with the floppy image
first and the contents of the whole QNX CD after. The floppy image exists as
a file on the CD perhaps yout can take that and do not need a real floppy
disk drive.

Regards, Roland

All that difficulties that QNX has to produce a common bootable CD are hard
to understand. Every other OS comes on a CD that is bootable as well from
IDE as from SCSI drives.

“Ronny Schoebel” <ronny@l61.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:PM00037B4BBDF6D08C@kira.hammer-net

Roland Henkel wrote:
Hi,

I had the same disappointing experience first. After making a boot
diskette
under windows and booting from it I could install QNXRTP from SCSI-CD.
The
scsi-driver will be loaded during diskette boot.
Not good but better than before.

Regards,
Roland



So, that really means, I have to put a disk drive into my box… sigh

But I don’t really understand it, why it should work from floppy, but
not CD…
I always thought the CD used the boot-floppy image to boot itself.


There’s no secret to balance. You just have to feel the waves.

Darwi Odrade

Ronny.

I’ll try a CD-RW with the boot-floppy image.
Hope this helps, as I really don’t feel like opening my machine and
struggling to put a flopy drive in…
And then perhaps, it still doesn’t work. uaaa
Thanks, anyway.

Roland Henkel wrote:

Hi,

I don’t understand it, too. The only reason I could think is that the
boot
image on CD is different from that on floppy disk. But why should it
be so?

May be it will be useful to burn a new bootable CD with the floppy
image
first and the contents of the whole QNX CD after. The floppy image
exists as
a file on the CD perhaps yout can take that and do not need a real
floppy
disk drive.

Regards, Roland

All that difficulties that QNX has to produce a common bootable CD are
hard
to understand. Every other OS comes on a CD that is bootable as well
from
IDE as from SCSI drives.


There’s no secret to balance. You just have to feel the waves.

Darwi Odrade
Ronny.

Nope. Didn’t work either. Same rsult.
Probably my SCSI controler isn’t supported at all.
(AIC 7895) I checked and it isn’t explicitly listed, though I thought it
was compatible to the AHA-2940 range…

Ronny Schoebel wrote:

I’ll try a CD-RW with the boot-floppy image.
Hope this helps, as I really don’t feel like opening my machine and
struggling to put a flopy drive in…
And then perhaps, it still doesn’t work. uaaa
Thanks, anyway.

Roland Henkel wrote:
Hi,

I don’t understand it, too. The only reason I could think is that
the
boot
image on CD is different from that on floppy disk. But why should it
be so?

May be it will be useful to burn a new bootable CD with the floppy
image
first and the contents of the whole QNX CD after. The floppy image
exists as
a file on the CD perhaps yout can take that and do not need a real
floppy
disk drive.

Regards, Roland

All that difficulties that QNX has to produce a common bootable CD
are
hard
to understand. Every other OS comes on a CD that is bootable as well
from
IDE as from SCSI drives.


There’s no secret to balance. You just have to feel the waves.

Darwi Odrade
Ronny.

7895 is unsupported.

“Ronny Schoebel” <ronny@l61.de> wrote in message
news:PM00037B622D12ADDE@kira.hammer-net

Nope. Didn’t work either. Same rsult.
Probably my SCSI controler isn’t supported at all.
(AIC 7895) I checked and it isn’t explicitly listed, though I thought it
was compatible to the AHA-2940 range…

Ronny Schoebel wrote:
I’ll try a CD-RW with the boot-floppy image.
Hope this helps, as I really don’t feel like opening my machine and
struggling to put a flopy drive in…
And then perhaps, it still doesn’t work. uaaa
Thanks, anyway.

Roland Henkel wrote:
Hi,

I don’t understand it, too. The only reason I could think is that
the
boot
image on CD is different from that on floppy disk. But why should it
be so?

May be it will be useful to burn a new bootable CD with the floppy
image
first and the contents of the whole QNX CD after. The floppy image
exists as
a file on the CD perhaps yout can take that and do not need a real
floppy
disk drive.

Regards, Roland

All that difficulties that QNX has to produce a common bootable CD
are
hard
to understand. Every other OS comes on a CD that is bootable as well
from
IDE as from SCSI drives.


\

There’s no secret to balance. You just have to feel the waves.

Darwi Odrade
Ronny.

Is the BIOS enabled on the SCSI controller? If so try selecting to
treat the CD-ROM as a fixed disk. The drive will be locked when that
is selected so you’ll need the CD in before the SCSI controller
BIOS loads up. Hopefully you can individually select removable
devices to treat as fixed devices on that controller. If not its no
big deal since you just need it to install, if it works.

For more info on bootable CD-ROMs (not including Macintosh which
is different as per standard Apple practice) look up “El Torrito”
on the net. No I am not kidding, the format is called “El Torrito”
or maybe “El Torito” with one r. :slight_smile: (Like the old High Sierra format
was named after the High Sierra Hotel at Lake Tahoe where the industry
people met to hash things out.)

Ronny Schoebel wrote:

Nope. Didn’t work either. Same rsult.
Probably my SCSI controler isn’t supported at all.
(AIC 7895) I checked and it isn’t explicitly listed, though I thought it
was compatible to the AHA-2940 range…

Ronny Schoebel wrote:
I’ll try a CD-RW with the boot-floppy image.
Hope this helps, as I really don’t feel like opening my machine and
struggling to put a flopy drive in…
And then perhaps, it still doesn’t work. uaaa
Thanks, anyway.

Roland Henkel wrote:
Hi,

I don’t understand it, too. The only reason I could think is that
the
boot
image on CD is different from that on floppy disk. But why should it
be so?

May be it will be useful to burn a new bootable CD with the floppy
image
first and the contents of the whole QNX CD after. The floppy image
exists as
a file on the CD perhaps yout can take that and do not need a real
floppy
disk drive.

Regards, Roland

All that difficulties that QNX has to produce a common bootable CD
are
hard
to understand. Every other OS comes on a CD that is bootable as well
from
IDE as from SCSI drives.


\

There’s no secret to balance. You just have to feel the waves.

Darwi Odrade
Ronny.