ARRGGHH!! BeOS just got killed - NEED QNX TO BOOT ON MY PC N

Please help me! Sniff
I’ve beenusing QNX at my school for some time now and I’m really impressed
how smooth it tuns un those slow pc’s…
So from time to time i’ve been trying to install QNX on my private desktop
pc at home but I have newer succeeded!!
The first versions of QNX gave me about 3 pages error-messages and refused
to boot after installation… Now with 6.1.0 it has come down to just
“unable to start devc-con”… Usually I’ve been installing QNX on my FAT32
partitions because I got tired of re-partitioning/resizing my HD evry time i
wanted to try, but I have also installed QNX to a seperate partition with
the same results…
The funny thing is that i CAN get it to show me some gui (graphic card init
screen) if I make it boot the OS from the CD-ROM (F2 option) but then I’m
faced with the “USB mouse & keyboard not working” problem…

My system is :
Asus P3X4 mainboard (via apollo 133a pro chipset + udma 66)
IBM DTLA 40,2 gig HD with QNX on the E drive (fat32) and Win2000 on D
MS Natural pro Keyboard (USB HUB)
BooomSlang 1000 USB mouse
ASUS V7700 Geforce 2 GTS pure (VBA out only)
Creative Live! Value soundcard
Adaptec 2940 SCSI with " devices (CD-R + DVD drive) connected

As far as I know my system should be on the compatible list…
Is there something I am missing? Please help… I can’t stand Windows any
longer and ( my beloved) BeOS got sold to Palm, who’s gonna kill it


Regards Kim Tholstorf

Kim Tholstorf a écrit :

Please help me! Sniff
I’ve beenusing QNX at my school for some time now and I’m really impressed
how smooth it tuns un those slow pc’s…
So from time to time i’ve been trying to install QNX on my private desktop
pc at home but I have newer succeeded!!
The first versions of QNX gave me about 3 pages error-messages and refused
to boot after installation… Now with 6.1.0 it has come down to just
“unable to start devc-con”… Usually I’ve been installing QNX on my FAT32
partitions because I got tired of re-partitioning/resizing my HD evry time i
wanted to try, but I have also installed QNX to a seperate partition with
the same results…
The funny thing is that i CAN get it to show me some gui (graphic card init
screen) if I make it boot the OS from the CD-ROM (F2 option) but then I’m
faced with the “USB mouse & keyboard not working” problem…

My system is :
Asus P3X4 mainboard (via apollo 133a pro chipset + udma 66)
IBM DTLA 40,2 gig HD with QNX on the E drive (fat32) and Win2000 on D
MS Natural pro Keyboard (USB HUB)
BooomSlang 1000 USB mouse
ASUS V7700 Geforce 2 GTS pure (VBA out only)
Creative Live! Value soundcard
Adaptec 2940 SCSI with " devices (CD-R + DVD drive) connected

As far as I know my system should be on the compatible list…
Is there something I am missing? Please help… I can’t stand Windows any
longer and ( my beloved) BeOS got sold to Palm, who’s gonna kill it

Regards Kim Tholstorf

Maybe you can find an answer here!

Regards,
Alain.

I’ve alreade tried that before posting in this newsgroup…
After selecting the new bootoptions I still get “unable to start devc-con” when trying to boot QRTP 6.1.0
:frowning:

Hi Kim,

Did you upgrade from 6.0 to 6.1 or did you do a fresh install?

Thanks

Erick.


Kim Tholstorf <ghostcom97@infile.dk> wrote:

I’ve alreade tried that before posting in this newsgroup…
After selecting the new bootoptions I still get “unable to start devc-con” when trying to boot QRTP 6.1.0
:frowning:

Same problem but to help coders I want say that I think the main problem is
in the boot floppy:
from a dot “.” and the others pass 3-4 seconds and not less then one like in
the old boot floppy (talking about a windows file into a fat32 with boot
floppy).
In the 6.0 boot floppy everithing go well but after the 6.1 upgrade the boot
floppy is very slow and no way to start the system (unable to start
devc-con). I tried with the last boot image created from windows and from
the QNX upgrader, same result, DMA or not.
To help who wants still to use the 6.0 packgage I can suggest following:
insert (or make) the old 6.0 boot floppy and choose the “start with old
packgage”.
Now you can deactivate the 6.1 upgrade using the packgage manager and wait
for a patch or other coming from QNX like me.
You can boot with the old boot floppy like you did until the upgrade.
If you lost the old boot floppy maker and want it send me an email.


“Kim Tholstorf” <ghostcom97@infile.dk> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:9lqgpq$rk9$1@inn.qnx.com

Please help me! Sniff
I’ve beenusing QNX at my school for some time now and I’m really impressed
how smooth it tuns un those slow pc’s…
So from time to time i’ve been trying to install QNX on my private desktop
pc at home but I have newer succeeded!!
The first versions of QNX gave me about 3 pages error-messages and refused
to boot after installation… Now with 6.1.0 it has come down to just
“unable to start devc-con”… Usually I’ve been installing QNX on my FAT32
partitions because I got tired of re-partitioning/resizing my HD evry time
i
wanted to try, but I have also installed QNX to a seperate partition with
the same results…
The funny thing is that i CAN get it to show me some gui (graphic card
init
screen) if I make it boot the OS from the CD-ROM (F2 option) but then I’m
faced with the “USB mouse & keyboard not working” problem…

My system is :
Asus P3X4 mainboard (via apollo 133a pro chipset + udma 66)
IBM DTLA 40,2 gig HD with QNX on the E drive (fat32) and Win2000 on D
MS Natural pro Keyboard (USB HUB)
BooomSlang 1000 USB mouse
ASUS V7700 Geforce 2 GTS pure (VBA out only)
Creative Live! Value soundcard
Adaptec 2940 SCSI with " devices (CD-R + DVD drive) connected

As far as I know my system should be on the compatible list…
Is there something I am missing? Please help… I can’t stand Windows any
longer and ( my beloved) BeOS got sold to Palm, who’s gonna kill it


Regards Kim Tholstorf

It’s a fresh install… Have installed it manny times but here the last time
i didn’t installed v6.1.0 to at QNX partition, but did the “windows
install”…


“Hardware Support Account” <hw@qnx.com> wrote in message
news:9lrnki$r9c$1@nntp.qnx.com

Hi Kim,

Did you upgrade from 6.0 to 6.1 or did you do a fresh install?

Thanks

Erick.


Kim Tholstorf <> ghostcom97@infile.dk> > wrote:
I’ve alreade tried that before posting in this newsgroup…
After selecting the new bootoptions I still get “unable to start
devc-con” when trying to boot QRTP 6.1.0
:frowning:

Hi Kim,

Not sure if you tried looking at this:

http://qdn.qnx.com/articles/jul0601/upgrade.html

Also what version of Windows did you install on? and what type of
hardware do you have in your system?

Thanks

Erick.


Kim Tholstorf <ghostcom97@infile.dk> wrote:

It’s a fresh install… Have installed it manny times but here the last time
i didn’t installed v6.1.0 to at QNX partition, but did the “windows
install”…



“Hardware Support Account” <> hw@qnx.com> > wrote in message
news:9lrnki$r9c$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> …
Hi Kim,

Did you upgrade from 6.0 to 6.1 or did you do a fresh install?

Thanks

Erick.


Kim Tholstorf <> ghostcom97@infile.dk> > wrote:
I’ve alreade tried that before posting in this newsgroup…
After selecting the new bootoptions I still get “unable to start
devc-con” when trying to boot QRTP 6.1.0
:frowning:

SMILING Yes I have… look at the 2nd post in this group! Got the same
question there :slight_smile:


“Hardware Support Account” <hw@qnx.com> wrote in message
news:9m3849$l3v$4@nntp.qnx.com

Hi Kim,

Not sure if you tried looking at this:

http://qdn.qnx.com/articles/jul0601/upgrade.html

Also what version of Windows did you install on? and what type of
hardware do you have in your system?

Thanks

Erick.


Kim Tholstorf <> ghostcom97@infile.dk> > wrote:
It’s a fresh install… Have installed it manny times but here the last
time
i didn’t installed v6.1.0 to at QNX partition, but did the “windows
install”…


“Hardware Support Account” <> hw@qnx.com> > wrote in message
news:9lrnki$r9c$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> …
Hi Kim,

Did you upgrade from 6.0 to 6.1 or did you do a fresh install?

Thanks

Erick.


Kim Tholstorf <> ghostcom97@infile.dk> > wrote:
I’ve alreade tried that before posting in this newsgroup…
After selecting the new bootoptions I still get “unable to start
devc-con” when trying to boot QRTP 6.1.0
:frowning:

Hmmm… I’ve hoped to have QNX running after 5 days, with the help of U QNX
guys!!
But the fact is that the only i’ve only gotten is : “did you check the QNX
6.1.0 fix guide?” Of cause I did! Did follow that procedure before i posted
here…

Sorry to be complayning but this is not the quality of support i’m used to
as a die-hard BeOS / Amiga fan… No offence guys… I’m just a bit sad
because I really like QNX RTP but it would be really nice to run it on one
of my two pc’s…
Still hoping to be able to run QNX some day… Probaly the day QSSL kill
Glide support and release OpenGL with nVidia drivers…

SIGH

You may be intersted in trying to see if you are able to boot the
Rescue Floppy from the following URL…

http://staff.qnx.com/~thomasf/nto.html

Post back your results of booting that disk.

chris


Kim Tholstorf <ghostcom97@infile.dk> wrote:

Sorry to be complayning but this is not the quality of support i’m used to
as a die-hard BeOS / Amiga fan… No offence guys… I’m just a bit sad
because I really like QNX RTP but it would be really nice to run it on one
of my two pc’s…
Still hoping to be able to run QNX some day… Probaly the day QSSL kill
Glide support and release OpenGL with nVidia drivers…

SIGH
\

cdm@qnx.com > “The faster I go, the behinder I get.”

Chris McKillop – Lewis Carroll –
Software Engineer, QSSL
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Kim,
there’s bug in QNX installer which does not let you install onto EIDE drive
from SCSI CD. Basically, it assumes installation CD and target HD are served
by the same driver and if it’s not the case, install into partition will
fail.

Install into FAT32 partition should work. Your descriptions lacks some
details, do you get that ‘devc-con’ problem booting using Windows-based
install or partition install? You should try to install 6.1 into Windows and
boot using boot floppy (or using installation CD, the 6.1 has such option).
If that does not work, try using non-DMA boot image.

Your keyboard/mouse won’t be automatically detected, with current release
you’ll need to do some manual configuration to get them working. If you can
get to login prompt (disable Photon using boot options) that should be easy
enough to do. I believe next release should handle USB automatically, if
that all is too troublesome you may want to wait, it should not be long.

  • igor

“Kim Tholstorf” <> ghostcom97@infile.dk> > ha scritto nel messaggio
news:9lqgpq$rk9$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Please help me! Sniff
I’ve beenusing QNX at my school for some time now and I’m really
impressed
how smooth it tuns un those slow pc’s…
So from time to time i’ve been trying to install QNX on my private
desktop
pc at home but I have newer succeeded!!
The first versions of QNX gave me about 3 pages error-messages and
refused
to boot after installation… Now with 6.1.0 it has come down to just
“unable to start devc-con”… Usually I’ve been installing QNX on my
FAT32
partitions because I got tired of re-partitioning/resizing my HD evry
time
i
wanted to try, but I have also installed QNX to a seperate partition
with
the same results…
The funny thing is that i CAN get it to show me some gui (graphic card
init
screen) if I make it boot the OS from the CD-ROM (F2 option) but then
I’m
faced with the “USB mouse & keyboard not working” problem…

My system is :
Asus P3X4 mainboard (via apollo 133a pro chipset + udma 66)
IBM DTLA 40,2 gig HD with QNX on the E drive (fat32) and Win2000 on D
MS Natural pro Keyboard (USB HUB)
BooomSlang 1000 USB mouse
ASUS V7700 Geforce 2 GTS pure (VBA out only)
Creative Live! Value soundcard
Adaptec 2940 SCSI with " devices (CD-R + DVD drive) connected

As far as I know my system should be on the compatible list…
Is there something I am missing? Please help… I can’t stand Windows
any
longer and ( my beloved) BeOS got sold to Palm, who’s gonna kill it


Regards Kim Tholstorf
\

Kim,
there’s bug in QNX installer which does not let you install onto EIDE drive
from SCSI CD. Basically, it assumes installation CD and target HD are served
by the same driver and if it’s not the case, install into partition will
fail.

Igor:
Install into FAT32 partition should work. Your descriptions lacks some
details, do you get that ‘devc-con’ problem booting using Windows-based
install or partition install? You should try to install 6.1 into Windows and
boot using boot floppy (or using installation CD, the 6.1 has such option).
If that does not work, try using non-DMA boot image.

Your keyboard/mouse won’t be automatically detected, with current release
you’ll need to do some manual configuration to get them working. If you can
get to login prompt (disable Photon using boot options) that should be easy
enough to do. I believe next release should handle USB automatically, if
that all is too troublesome you may want to wait, it should not be long.

paul may:
Kim mentions amiga and beos so should be farely able to handle the
little bit of trouble LOL.

on a side note Igor, i`v not seem anyone report this peticular problem
before.

as iv mentioned before iv got both win98se RTP hardfiles and partitions
from (see my uname -a elsewere) way back and had serveral problems
upgrading to RTP6.1 as per everyone else, however heres one that you might
have an idea why its happening.

my machine:
jetway j-542b super7 motherboard ( http://www.jetway.com.tw )
ali chipset
AMD500/2
128 meg ram
dma33 20gig Eide (primary master)
mitsumi cr-4804TE (secondary master)
voodoo3/2000

i remember that theres a problem if you have a CD(rw) on the
secondary slave and i assume primary slave too? in that rtp6.1
wouldn`t see the cd after booting but i never shaw a report
were it were it fails on primarys.

the funny thing is though IF i boot from the rtp6.1 cd disk i can see
the cd0 in /devs i think it was (LOL perhaps its just my amiga
devs: sticking in my mind and i cant check right now as im in
WinUAE (not RTP-UAE until someone fixes the uae-0.8.17+ to compile)
UAE-0.7.6 compiles fine but real slow and 0.8.* has all the nice
JIT/native gfx card hack/TCP emulation ect)
but werever rtp raw mounts all the devices anyway.

if i boot (XOSL4.1) to a fresh rtp6.1 hardfile or partition i cant
see any cd* in the system (/dev ect) and i had to mount the raw
rtp6.1 ISO image just to install the full developer tools and Xphoton.

i`m wondering if its a Ali HD controller chipset and/or AMD thing in
the latest (fixed rtp6.1) or other bug than sliped through the net ?.

(just for reference)
i think this jetway board has an older ali chipset rev-a or b as
the newer win98se drivers dont install on this reporting a rev-c
or higher needed to install, aliIDE165 (M5229.mpd) works fine.

all the older RTP`s phx beta<>6.0 worked and auto mounted the cdrw
as cd reader without problems so i assume a bug.

do qnx have a report of this secondary master cdr(w) problem
and is it fixed and in the back room i wonder ?.



  • igor

“Kim Tholstorf” <> ghostcom97@infile.dk> > ha scritto nel messaggio
news:9lqgpq$rk9$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Please help me! Sniff
I’ve beenusing QNX at my school for some time now and I’m really
impressed
how smooth it tuns un those slow pc’s…
So from time to time i’ve been trying to install QNX on my private
desktop
pc at home but I have newer succeeded!!
The first versions of QNX gave me about 3 pages error-messages and
refused
to boot after installation… Now with 6.1.0 it has come down to just
“unable to start devc-con”… Usually I’ve been installing QNX on my
FAT32
partitions because I got tired of re-partitioning/resizing my HD evry
time
i
wanted to try, but I have also installed QNX to a seperate partition
with
the same results…
The funny thing is that i CAN get it to show me some gui (graphic card
init
screen) if I make it boot the OS from the CD-ROM (F2 option) but then
I’m
faced with the “USB mouse & keyboard not working” problem…

My system is :
Asus P3X4 mainboard (via apollo 133a pro chipset + udma 66)
IBM DTLA 40,2 gig HD with QNX on the E drive (fat32) and Win2000 on D
MS Natural pro Keyboard (USB HUB)
BooomSlang 1000 USB mouse
ASUS V7700 Geforce 2 GTS pure (VBA out only)
Creative Live! Value soundcard
Adaptec 2940 SCSI with " devices (CD-R + DVD drive) connected

As far as I know my system should be on the compatible list…
Is there something I am missing? Please help… I can’t stand Windows
any
longer and ( my beloved) BeOS got sold to Palm, who’s gonna kill it


Regards Kim Tholstorf

\

Paul May, Manchester, UK,
Phoenix Core © 1999, Phoenix Developer Consortium © 2000, Team Phx © 1999
Phinixi Technologies International LTD © 2000, Phinixi © 2000

Hi,
I’ll be putting together a system to run QNX RTP 6.1…

Any suggestions on hardware that works best with QNX?

Good 2D video is important - lots of PtTrend type data and double buffered
2D animations.

I’m leaning towards the ATI Radeon card as drivers for it seem to be well
supported is this true.

Any better suggestions? What about a motherboard/bios/processor etc. Any
set up in particular less likely to have problems?

Good audio card?

Thanks and regards,

Steve

Hi, Steve

About the video, two things:

  1. You don’t have to buy expensive cards such as Radeon to have good
    2D acceleration. In fact, 2D acceleration is well (totally?) explore
    for a long time. You can try good video cards of the last year.
  2. I am just guessing, bu Radeon is a new chipset, so you may
    experience problems with its dirvers.

Carlos

Steve Cobb <steve-cobb@excite.com> wrote:

Good 2D video is important - lots of PtTrend type data and double
buffered
2D animations.

I’m leaning towards the ATI Radeon card as drivers for it seem to be
well
supported is this true.

Hi Steve,

All ATI chipsets are supported, including the Radeon under QNX 6.1.
Take a look at our hardware support web pages for more information:

http://qdn.qnx.com/support/hardware/index.html

Regards,

Joe

Steve Cobb <steve-cobb@excite.com> wrote:

Hi,
I’ll be putting together a system to run QNX RTP 6.1…

Any suggestions on hardware that works best with QNX?

Good 2D video is important - lots of PtTrend type data and double buffered
2D animations.

I’m leaning towards the ATI Radeon card as drivers for it seem to be well
supported is this true.

Any better suggestions? What about a motherboard/bios/processor etc. Any
set up in particular less likely to have problems?

Good audio card?

Thanks and regards,

Steve