Partition trouble...

Quick situation intro: I have been using qnx 4 and want to upgrade to the
newest version. I deleted/uninstalled the qnx inside my windows partition
because I want to install it into it’s own partition. That’s where trouble
starts. I want to install it onto my second harddrive, which had currently
the following lay-out:

1 ext2fs
2 extended
5 linux swap
6 BeOS
7 Freespace (1.6 GB, was OS/2)
8 ext2
9 ext2
10 ext2
11 ext2

I want to use the freespace for qnx, however: installation pretends not to
know what a extended partition is. So I started reading around here. I’ve
read the thread form Dana Echtner (17-april-2001). Can QNX already start(or
be installed to) from a logical partition? Are there any plans to fix this
bug or is the general attitude at qnx :“It’s not a bug, it’s a feature!” ?
If not: does anyone know how to move the freespace in front of the extended
partition? Or actually: move beos and swap and then resize/crop the extended
partition?

Kind regards,
Otto Visser.

Hi Otto,

Otto Visser <otto@otvi.net> wrote in article <9me45f$q1d$1@inn.qnx.com>…
[snip]

I want to use the freespace for qnx, however: installation pretends not to
know what a extended partition is. So I started reading around here. I’ve
read the thread form Dana Echtner (17-april-2001). Can QNX already start(or
be installed to) from a logical partition? Are there any plans to fix this
bug or is the general attitude at qnx :“It’s not a bug, it’s a feature!” ?

Good question. I join on. I guess QNX can start from a logical partitions by own loader :wink:, but
I’m not sure QNX can be installed to a logical partition by installation program :frowning:

If not: does anyone know how to move the freespace in front of the extended
partition? Or actually: move beos and swap and then resize/crop the extended
partition?

I used pqmagic (Partition Magic by PowerQuest) in order to resize/move logical partitions and to
resize extended partition.

Best regards,
Eduard.

I guess QNX can start from a logical partitions by own loader > :wink:> , but

It can. I’ve just installed a RTP on a separate Extended partition
using qnx4 filesystem (not in FAT).
You need a MBR bootloader to kick a logical partition tho
(decent bootloaders nowadays have no problem)

I’m not sure QNX can be installed to a logical partition by installation program > :frowning:
It can’t (I guess).

So you had to fiddle around after booting from CDROM.
(I’ve just written a doc on it but it’s not in english…)

Actually, these was done installing into the first HDD;
not sure if it holds true on installing into 2nd HDD’s ext.partition.


kabe

I guess QNX can start from a logical partitions by own loader > :wink:> , but

It can. I’ve just installed a RTP on a separate Extended partition
using qnx4 filesystem (not in FAT).
You need a MBR bootloader to kick a logical partition tho
(decent bootloaders nowadays have no problem)

How do I do that? And with what bootloader?



I’m not sure QNX can be installed to a logical partition by
installation program > :frowning:
It can’t (I guess).
So you had to fiddle around after booting from CDROM.
(I’ve just written a doc on it but it’s not in english…)

I’m afraid my japanese is not what is has been > :slight_smile:



Actually, these was done installing into the first HDD;
not sure if it holds true on installing into 2nd HDD’s ext.partition.

I’ll give it a try…

Otto.

Otto Visser <otto@otvi.net> wrote in article <9mkn6d$5v$1@inn.qnx.com>…

I guess QNX can start from a logical partitions by own loader > :wink:> , but

It can. I’ve just installed a RTP on a separate Extended partition
using qnx4 filesystem (not in FAT).
You need a MBR bootloader to kick a logical partition tho
(decent bootloaders nowadays have no problem)

How do I do that? And with what bootloader?

I guess LILO or NT OS Loader are suitable. There is a great tool “Boot partition”
(http://www.winimage.com/bootpart.htm) for NT OS Loader (if you intend to boot alt OS from non
primary master IDE drive).

I’m not sure QNX can be installed to a logical partition by
installation program > :frowning:
It can’t (I guess).
So you had to fiddle around after booting from CDROM.
(I’ve just written a doc on it but it’s not in english…)

I’m afraid my japanese is not what is has been > :slight_smile:

Unfortunately my japanese too :wink:
Kabe, just curious, is any additional software required for that? Do you intend to translate doc to
english?

Eduard.

I have used GRUB (GRand Unified Booting) and like it. It comes with some Linux distro’s (e.g.,
Mandrake).

ed1k wrote:

Otto Visser <> otto@otvi.net> > wrote in article <9mkn6d$5v$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >…
I guess QNX can start from a logical partitions by own loader > :wink:> , but

It can. I’ve just installed a RTP on a separate Extended partition
using qnx4 filesystem (not in FAT).
You need a MBR bootloader to kick a logical partition tho
(decent bootloaders nowadays have no problem)

How do I do that? And with what bootloader?

I guess LILO or NT OS Loader are suitable. There is a great tool “Boot partition”
(> http://www.winimage.com/bootpart.htm> ) for NT OS Loader (if you intend to boot alt OS from non
primary master IDE drive).


I’m not sure QNX can be installed to a logical partition by
installation program > :frowning:
It can’t (I guess).
So you had to fiddle around after booting from CDROM.
(I’ve just written a doc on it but it’s not in english…)

I’m afraid my japanese is not what is has been > :slight_smile:


Unfortunately my japanese too > :wink:
Kabe, just curious, is any additional software required for that? Do you intend to translate doc to
english?

Eduard.

Kabe, just curious, is any additional software required for that? Do you intend to translate doc to
english?
(How did you guess it was japanese > :wink:

As a matter of fact I should have been prepared the doc in english
'cause it seems few japanese-tongued is ever trying out RTP;
until I have time to do it, grab
URL:http://www.dais.is.tohoku.ac.jp/~kabe/vsd/qnx/QNXext.html.
You may be able to decipher the essentials.

Although the default RTP installer may support this in the future…

kabe

kabe@sra-tohoku.co.jp wrote:

Kabe, just curious, is any additional software required for that? Do you intend to translate doc to
english?
(How did you guess it was japanese > :wink:

As a matter of fact I should have been prepared the doc in english
'cause it seems few japanese-tongued is ever trying out RTP;
until I have time to do it, grab
URL:> http://www.dais.is.tohoku.ac.jp/~kabe/vsd/qnx/QNXext.html> >.
You may be able to decipher the essentials.

Em, a suggestion.

Section 1.3 (Let’s Mount! :slight_smile: says:

mkdir /mnt

cd /mnt

ls -l

I guess it should be:

mount -t qnx4 /dev/hd0t77 /mnt

cd /mnt

ls -l

You don’t need “mkdir /mountpoint” on QNX, all namespace are
created dynamicly.

-xtang

kabe@sra-tohoku.co.jp wrote in article <9n2brk$4na$3@inn.qnx.com>…

Kabe, just curious, is any additional software required for that? Do you intend to translate
doc to
english?
(How did you guess it was japanese > :wink:

May be just because “jp” suffix in your e-mail :wink:

As a matter of fact I should have been prepared the doc in english
'cause it seems few japanese-tongued is ever trying out RTP;
until I have time to do it, grab
URL:> http://www.dais.is.tohoku.ac.jp/~kabe/vsd/qnx/QNXext.html> >.
You may be able to decipher the essentials.

I have not got such success as Xiaodan in understanding :wink:
I understood that way is not based on exchange mbr while installing :wink:, that is quite safe. (IMHO,
mbr’s exchange is a very dangerous way)

Thank you,
best regards,
Eduard.