Does someonw know if Comeau c/c++ was only taken in cosideration
by qssl or a port will be shortly avaible?
I can hear only rumors about it but it seems that everything is
in a stale position.
–
Wave++
In article <9ou2e8$klb$1@inn.qnx.com>, Wave++ <wavexx@apexmail.com> wrote:
Does someonw know if Comeau c/c++ was only taken in cosideration
by qssl or a port will be shortly avaible?
I can hear only rumors about it but it seems that everything is
in a stale position.
We’d be very happy for a QNX port of Comeau C++, but it would have
to be done as a custom port due to the investment of time and money,
and of time and money 
, that would be incurred, both in the near term
and long term (this is how most ports of Comeau C++ come about).
Given that, something along the lines of our current offerings
could be available shortly.
Greg Comeau export ETA: Dec 1 10% “End of Summer” Offer
Comeau C/C++ ONLINE ==> http://www.comeaucomputing.com/tryitout
World Class Compilers: Breathtaking C++, Amazing C99, Fabulous C90.
Comeau C/C++ with Dinkumware’s Libraries… Have you tried it?
OK then; how much would a “custom port” cost? What access, if any, do you
need to QSSL proprietary sources? Or is object level for Dinkum plus source
for modified gcc libs sufficient?
Anybody care to offer suggestions on how to finance such a “custom port”?
This may not make business sense for QSSL itself.
Greg Comeau wrote:
In article <9ou2e8$klb$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, Wave++ <> wavexx@apexmail.com> > wrote:
Does someonw know if Comeau c/c++ was only taken in cosideration
by qssl or a port will be shortly avaible?
I can hear only rumors about it but it seems that everything is
in a stale position.We’d be very happy for a QNX port of Comeau C++, but it would have
to be done as a custom port due to the investment of time and money,
and of time and money >
and long term (this is how most ports of Comeau C++ come about).
Given that, something along the lines of our current offerings
could be available shortly.Greg Comeau export ETA: Dec 1 10% “End of Summer” Offer
Comeau C/C++ ONLINE ==> > http://www.comeaucomputing.com/tryitout
World Class Compilers: Breathtaking C++, Amazing C99, Fabulous C90.
Comeau C/C++ with Dinkumware’s Libraries… Have you tried it?
I can’t imagine how this wouldn’t make business sense for QSSL. For one
thing, they could have a “free” RtP with gnu toolchain, and a “low-cost”
(for non-commercial use) RtP with gnu/Comeau Toolchain. This doesn’t
prevent anyone who wants to do useful non-commercial work from doing so,
but offers them the option to “buy up” to a better C++ compiler; at the
same time, QSSL would be free to “beef up” the whole price (to cover the
cost of the port). This would take the pressure off of the internal
QSSL toolchain group to continually push on the g++ side (they could
focus pretty much exclusively on making sure that gcc is up to the
task). They’d need to sell at least 1000 copies (for about $150.00 a
copy) to make it worth their while. They could sign me up, but, I don’t
know about the other 999 
Of course, all of this depends on Comeau actually being a better
compiler, which I suspect is true (based on hearsay). Comeau might be
the best C++ compiler in the world, but if it isn’t available on QNX, it
is worthless (to me).
-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Douthat [mailto:ddouthat@faac.com]
Posted At: Thursday, September 27, 2001 10:04 AM
Posted To: devtools
Conversation: Comeau c/c++ for nto
Subject: Re: Comeau c/c++ for nto
OK then; how much would a “custom port” cost? What access, if any, do
you
need to QSSL proprietary sources? Or is object level for Dinkum plus
source
for modified gcc libs sufficient?
Anybody care to offer suggestions on how to finance such a “custom
port”?
This may not make business sense for QSSL itself.
Greg Comeau wrote:
In article <9ou2e8$klb$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, Wave++ <> wavexx@apexmail.com
wrote:
Does someonw know if Comeau c/c++ was only taken in cosideration
by qssl or a port will be shortly avaible?
I can hear only rumors about it but it seems that everything is
in a stale position.We’d be very happy for a QNX port of Comeau C++, but it would have
to be done as a custom port due to the investment of time and money,
and of time and money >
term
and long term (this is how most ports of Comeau C++ come about).
Given that, something along the lines of our current offerings
could be available shortly.Greg Comeau export ETA: Dec 1 10% “End of Summer” Offer
Comeau C/C++ ONLINE ==> > http://www.comeaucomputing.com/tryitout
World Class Compilers: Breathtaking C++, Amazing C99, Fabulous C90.
Comeau C/C++ with Dinkumware’s Libraries… Have you tried it?
All that Comeau would give us is a better C++ compliance (well, that a
big ‘All’ ). GCC would still be the C compiler used to compile the C
that Comeau Generated. So Comeau is not a panacea, it will not
magically make your programs smaller or run faster.
Gregor
Rennie Allen wrote:
I can’t imagine how this wouldn’t make business sense for QSSL. For one
thing, they could have a “free” RtP with gnu toolchain, and a “low-cost”
(for non-commercial use) RtP with gnu/Comeau Toolchain. This doesn’t
prevent anyone who wants to do useful non-commercial work from doing so,
but offers them the option to “buy up” to a better C++ compiler; at the
same time, QSSL would be free to “beef up” the whole price (to cover the
cost of the port). This would take the pressure off of the internal
QSSL toolchain group to continually push on the g++ side (they could
focus pretty much exclusively on making sure that gcc is up to the
task). They’d need to sell at least 1000 copies (for about $150.00 a
copy) to make it worth their while. They could sign me up, but, I don’t
know about the other 999 >Of course, all of this depends on Comeau actually being a better
compiler, which I suspect is true (based on hearsay). Comeau might be
the best C++ compiler in the world, but if it isn’t available on QNX, it
is worthless (to me).-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Douthat [mailto:> ddouthat@faac.com> ]
Posted At: Thursday, September 27, 2001 10:04 AM
Posted To: devtools
Conversation: Comeau c/c++ for nto
Subject: Re: Comeau c/c++ for nto
OK then; how much would a “custom port” cost? What access, if any, do
you
need to QSSL proprietary sources? Or is object level for Dinkum plus
source
for modified gcc libs sufficient?Anybody care to offer suggestions on how to finance such a “custom
port”?
This may not make business sense for QSSL itself.Greg Comeau wrote:
In article <9ou2e8$klb$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, Wave++ <> wavexx@apexmail.comwrote:
Does someonw know if Comeau c/c++ was only taken in cosideration
by qssl or a port will be shortly avaible?
I can hear only rumors about it but it seems that everything is
in a stale position.We’d be very happy for a QNX port of Comeau C++, but it would have
to be done as a custom port due to the investment of time and money,
and of time and money >term
and long term (this is how most ports of Comeau C++ come about).
Given that, something along the lines of our current offerings
could be available shortly.Greg Comeau export ETA: Dec 1 10% “End of Summer” Offer
Comeau C/C++ ONLINE ==> > http://www.comeaucomputing.com/tryitout
World Class Compilers: Breathtaking C++, Amazing C99, Fabulous C90.
Comeau C/C++ with Dinkumware’s Libraries… Have you tried it?
Gregor Brandt <gbrandt@oerlikon.ca> wrote:
All that Comeau would give us is a better C++ compliance (well, that a
big ‘All’ >
that Comeau Generated. So Comeau is not a panacea, it will not
magically make your programs smaller or run faster.Gregor
It can. Since gcc seems to compile well c code, comeau CAN reduce the size,
optimize the code better than g++. And, may also reduce compilation times.
when compiling c code gcc still quite fast.
I can no longer support these waits. Actually I’ve to wait usually 10
minutes to rebuild a project under neutrino with g++ when the same code
under linux tooks maximum 1 minute.
Rennie Allen wrote:
I can’t imagine how this wouldn’t make business sense for QSSL. For one
thing, they could have a “free” RtP with gnu toolchain, and a “low-cost”
(for non-commercial use) RtP with gnu/Comeau Toolchain. This doesn’t
prevent anyone who wants to do useful non-commercial work from doing so,
but offers them the option to “buy up” to a better C++ compiler; at the
same time, QSSL would be free to “beef up” the whole price (to cover the
cost of the port). This would take the pressure off of the internal
QSSL toolchain group to continually push on the g++ side (they could
focus pretty much exclusively on making sure that gcc is up to the
task). They’d need to sell at least 1000 copies (for about $150.00 a
copy) to make it worth their while. They could sign me up, but, I don’t
know about the other 999 >Of course, all of this depends on Comeau actually being a better
compiler, which I suspect is true (based on hearsay). Comeau might be
the best C++ compiler in the world, but if it isn’t available on QNX, it
is worthless (to me).-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Douthat [mailto:> ddouthat@faac.com> ]
Posted At: Thursday, September 27, 2001 10:04 AM
Posted To: devtools
Conversation: Comeau c/c++ for nto
Subject: Re: Comeau c/c++ for nto
OK then; how much would a “custom port” cost? What access, if any, do
you
need to QSSL proprietary sources? Or is object level for Dinkum plus
source
for modified gcc libs sufficient?Anybody care to offer suggestions on how to finance such a “custom
port”?
This may not make business sense for QSSL itself.Greg Comeau wrote:
In article <9ou2e8$klb$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, Wave++ <> wavexx@apexmail.comwrote:
Does someonw know if Comeau c/c++ was only taken in cosideration
by qssl or a port will be shortly avaible?
I can hear only rumors about it but it seems that everything is
in a stale position.We’d be very happy for a QNX port of Comeau C++, but it would have
to be done as a custom port due to the investment of time and money,
and of time and money >term
and long term (this is how most ports of Comeau C++ come about).
Given that, something along the lines of our current offerings
could be available shortly.Greg Comeau export ETA: Dec 1 10% “End of Summer” Offer
Comeau C/C++ ONLINE ==> > http://www.comeaucomputing.com/tryitout
World Class Compilers: Breathtaking C++, Amazing C99, Fabulous C90.
Comeau C/C++ with Dinkumware’s Libraries… Have you tried it?
–
Wave++
In article <3BB35BE7.BC4BB21C@faac.com>,
Dean Douthat <ddouthat@faac.com> wrote:
Greg Comeau wrote:
In article <9ou2e8$klb$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, Wave++ <> wavexx@apexmail.com> > wrote:
Does someonw know if Comeau c/c++ was only taken in cosideration
by qssl or a port will be shortly avaible?
I can hear only rumors about it but it seems that everything is
in a stale position.We’d be very happy for a QNX port of Comeau C++, but it would have
to be done as a custom port due to the investment of time and money,
and of time and money >
and long term (this is how most ports of Comeau C++ come about).
Given that, something along the lines of our current offerings
could be available shortly.OK then; how much would a “custom port” cost? What access, if any, do you
need to QSSL proprietary sources? Or is object level for Dinkum plus source
for modified gcc libs sufficient?Anybody care to offer suggestions on how to finance such a “custom port”?
This may not make business sense for QSSL itself.
I’m not sure we should wander here, but I’ll offer my $0.02 for now:
You’re right, it may not. Then again, it may. Offering “free”
gcc could easily cost them millions. Value adding QNX with
Comeau C/C++ could make lots of business sense. The way I see it,
on the one extreme Comeau C++ could be included in every QNX
distribution as a value added product. Just like (I think)
they do with Dinkumware. On the other extreme, it could be
offered by us at some price, for arguments sake, let’s say $1K.
And then, there is everything in the middle, for instance,
say 2000 people pre-committing to $50.
Greg Comeau export ETA: Dec 1 10% “End of Summer” Offer
Comeau C/C++ ONLINE ==> http://www.comeaucomputing.com/tryitout
World Class Compilers: Breathtaking C++, Amazing C99, Fabulous C90.
Comeau C/C++ with Dinkumware’s Libraries… Have you tried it?
In article <64F00D816A85D51198390050046F80C9E59B@exchangecal.hq.csical.com>,
Rennie Allen <RAllen@csical.com> wrote:
I can’t imagine how this wouldn’t make business sense for QSSL. For one
thing, they could have a “free” RtP with gnu toolchain, and a “low-cost”
(for non-commercial use) RtP with gnu/Comeau Toolchain. This doesn’t
prevent anyone who wants to do useful non-commercial work from doing so,
but offers them the option to “buy up” to a better C++ compiler; at the
same time, QSSL would be free to “beef up” the whole price (to cover the
cost of the port). This would take the pressure off of the internal
QSSL toolchain group to continually push on the g++ side (they could
focus pretty much exclusively on making sure that gcc is up to the
task). They’d need to sell at least 1000 copies (for about $150.00 a
copy) to make it worth their while. They could sign me up, but, I don’t
know about the other 999 >Of course, all of this depends on Comeau actually being a better
compiler, which I suspect is true (based on hearsay). Comeau might be
the best C++ compiler in the world, but if it isn’t available on QNX, it
is worthless (to me).
That all seems possible. Of course, there’s still other possibilities too.
Greg Comeau export ETA: Dec 1 10% “End of Summer” Offer
Comeau C/C++ ONLINE ==> http://www.comeaucomputing.com/tryitout
World Class Compilers: Breathtaking C++, Amazing C99, Fabulous C90.
Comeau C/C++ with Dinkumware’s Libraries… Have you tried it?
In article <3BB47356.3030204@oerlikon.ca>,
Gregor Brandt <gbrandt@oerlikon.ca> wrote:
All that Comeau would give us is a better C++ compliance (well, that a
big ‘All’ >
that Comeau Generated. So Comeau is not a panacea, it will not
magically make your programs smaller or run faster.
No compiler is perfect, so indeed, there is no magic or panacea’s,
not with Comeau, not with any compiler. But there is lots of
hard work and the thread has mentioned what it has materialized
into for us.
Greg Comeau export ETA: Dec 1 10% “End of Summer” Offer
Comeau C/C++ ONLINE ==> http://www.comeaucomputing.com/tryitout
World Class Compilers: Breathtaking C++, Amazing C99, Fabulous C90.
Comeau C/C++ with Dinkumware’s Libraries… Have you tried it?
I would like to see the Cameau compiler happen.
At $50, count me in. Where do I mail my check. For that matter, up to
$150, count me in. Up to $250, well, I’ll probably get it. But at $1000
I’m afraid you will have to count me out.
I just want to keep the score board up to date.
“Greg Comeau” <comeau@panix.com> wrote in message
news:9p388d$898$1@panix3.panix.com…
In article <> 3BB35BE7.BC4BB21C@faac.com> >,
Dean Douthat <> ddouthat@faac.com> > wrote:
Greg Comeau wrote:
In article <9ou2e8$klb$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, Wave++ <> wavexx@apexmail.com
wrote:
Does someonw know if Comeau c/c++ was only taken in cosideration
by qssl or a port will be shortly avaible?
I can hear only rumors about it but it seems that everything is
in a stale position.We’d be very happy for a QNX port of Comeau C++, but it would have
to be done as a custom port due to the investment of time and money,
and of time and money >
and long term (this is how most ports of Comeau C++ come about).
Given that, something along the lines of our current offerings
could be available shortly.OK then; how much would a “custom port” cost? What access, if any, do
you
need to QSSL proprietary sources? Or is object level for Dinkum plus
source
for modified gcc libs sufficient?Anybody care to offer suggestions on how to finance such a “custom port”?
This may not make business sense for QSSL itself.I’m not sure we should wander here, but I’ll offer my $0.02 for now:
You’re right, it may not. Then again, it may. Offering “free”
gcc could easily cost them millions. Value adding QNX with
Comeau C/C++ could make lots of business sense. The way I see it,
on the one extreme Comeau C++ could be included in every QNX
distribution as a value added product. Just like (I think)
they do with Dinkumware. On the other extreme, it could be
offered by us at some price, for arguments sake, let’s say $1K.
And then, there is everything in the middle, for instance,
say 2000 people pre-committing to $50.Greg Comeau export ETA: Dec 1 10% “End of Summer” Offer
Comeau C/C++ ONLINE ==> > http://www.comeaucomputing.com/tryitout
World Class Compilers: Breathtaking C++, Amazing C99, Fabulous C90.
Comeau C/C++ with Dinkumware’s Libraries… Have you tried it?
In article <9p9r79$nvl$1@inn.qnx.com>,
Bill Caroselli (Q-TPS) <qtps@earthlink.net> wrote:
“Greg Comeau” <> comeau@panix.com> > wrote in message
news:9p388d$898$> 1@panix3.panix.com> …
In article <> 3BB35BE7.BC4BB21C@faac.com> >,
Dean Douthat <> ddouthat@faac.com> > wrote:
Greg Comeau wrote:
In article <9ou2e8$klb$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, Wave++ <> wavexx@apexmail.com> > wrote:
Does someonw know if Comeau c/c++ was only taken in cosideration
by qssl or a port will be shortly avaible?
I can hear only rumors about it but it seems that everything is
in a stale position.We’d be very happy for a QNX port of Comeau C++, but it would have
to be done as a custom port due to the investment of time and money,
and of time and money >
and long term (this is how most ports of Comeau C++ come about).
Given that, something along the lines of our current offerings
could be available shortly.OK then; how much would a “custom port” cost? What access, if any,
do you need to QSSL proprietary sources? Or is object level for
Dinkum plus source for modified gcc libs sufficient?Anybody care to offer suggestions on how to finance such a “custom port”?
This may not make business sense for QSSL itself.I’m not sure we should wander here, but I’ll offer my $0.02 for now:
You’re right, it may not. Then again, it may. Offering “free”
gcc could easily cost them millions. Value adding QNX with
Comeau C/C++ could make lots of business sense. The way I see it,
on the one extreme Comeau C++ could be included in every QNX
distribution as a value added product. Just like (I think)
they do with Dinkumware. On the other extreme, it could be
offered by us at some price, for arguments sake, let’s say $1K.
And then, there is everything in the middle, for instance,
say 2000 people pre-committing to $50.I would like to see the Cameau compiler happen.
At $50, count me in. Where do I mail my check. For that matter, up to
$150, count me in. Up to $250, well, I’ll probably get it. But at $1000
I’m afraid you will have to count me out.I just want to keep the score board up to date.
Ok, that leaves 1999 others , at least under that scenario.
Greg Comeau export ETA: Dec 1 10% “End of Summer” Offer
Comeau C/C++ ONLINE ==> http://www.comeaucomputing.com/tryitout
World Class Compilers: Breathtaking C++, Amazing C99, Fabulous C90.
Comeau C/C++ with Dinkumware’s Libraries… Have you tried it?