RTP is out the door and it’s a terrific achievement.
The question is, where to from here?
It would be nice to read an inspiring open letter from Dan Dodge or from QNX
in general talking about RTP and what we can expect in the future and
approximately when, and what it all means etc
QSSL has a tendency to be overly silent about its plans. Not asking for
revelations of precise dates and features. Asking for a bit of leadership
and inspiration.
Cheers
Andrew
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“Andrew” <NOastuart@mira.netSPAM> wrote in message
news:8s5kvg$7a7$1@inn.qnx.com…
RTP is out the door and it’s a terrific achievement.
The question is, where to from here?
It would be nice to read an inspiring open letter from Dan Dodge or from
QNX
in general talking about RTP and what we can expect in the future and
approximately when, and what it all means etcQSSL has a tendency to be overly silent about its plans. Not asking for
revelations of precise dates and features. Asking for a bit of leadership
and inspiration.
From my perspective, QSSL will go where their customers pay
them to go (mostly big OEM).. That means if nobody waves big box to have
HTML 4.0, streaming, wireless, MPEG4, then you won’t see it. The reason
being that they will have their resources assigned to “income
generating” task. QSSL is extremely good at making core OS
and implement solution for the OEM. As for technical leader ship
they are just following behind. Microsoft and other high profile group
(MPEG, HTML, JAVA) decides where things are going and
QSSL is few years behind.
So unless you are talking high volume and need to cut down
cost of production and don’t mind paying big $$$ to get QSSL to
add a feature you need, all because NTO small memory foot print
and CPU efficient core OS allows you to save 10$ on the unit.
You are pretty much “stuck” with somewhat outdated technologies,
aside the core OS who’s awesome.
For example if you have a potential sale of 100 devices a year at 3000$ each
but there is a requirement to write to a CD-R. You probably don’t have
the budget to go out and spend 50000$ to have a custom solution
written for you (or by your staff), so QNX4/NTO is not for you.
Your only hope is that there is enough demand on the market for this
feature that it becomes worthy for QSSL (or a third party) to do it.
Hopefully with QRTP becoming more popular, lots of thing will
become profitable enough for QSSL (or third party) to do.
Note: This is NOT a description of what QSSL is or what the
leader of QSSL wants it to be, I wouldn’t dare to make a guess about
that. This is only my PERCEPTION of what QSSL is.
Cheers
Andrew
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Andrew wrote:
RTP is out the door and it’s a terrific achievement.
The question is, where to from here?
It would be nice to read an inspiring open letter from Dan Dodge or from QNX
in general talking about RTP and what we can expect in the future and
approximately when, and what it all means etcQSSL has a tendency to be overly silent about its plans. Not asking for
revelations of precise dates and features. Asking for a bit of leadership
and inspiration.
Plans and inspirations ? You can’t sell ‘Neutrino’ to OEMs if there are
no developers
which can handle it. Most developments are done in the desktop market
… so you have
to penetrate the desktop market in order to generate developers. Just my
view …
Armin
Andrew wrote:
From my perspective, QSSL will go where their customers pay
them to go (mostly big OEM).. That means if nobody waves big box to have
HTML 4.0, streaming, wireless, MPEG4, then you won’t see it. The reason
being that they will have their resources assigned to “income
generating” task.I agree Mario. QSSL should go where the money is. Thats why I don’t
think that RTP should be free. Free software means - no money (from that
software anyway).
FREE FOR NON COMMERCIAL USE doesn’t mean no money from OEMs or companies
which
use QNX !!! Do you know the commercial price of QNX RTP ??
Ask your Rep. or distributor 
But free for private use means:
Cheers,
Jutta
From my perspective, QSSL will go where their customers pay
them to go (mostly big OEM).. That means if nobody waves big box to have
HTML 4.0, streaming, wireless, MPEG4, then you won’t see it. The reason
being that they will have their resources assigned to “income
generating” task.
I agree Mario. QSSL should go where the money is. Thats why I don’t
think that RTP should be free. Free software means - no money (from that
software anyway). Sure fewer people are going to use it if it costs $100,
but at least there is an income stream from it, and the better the
marketing, the more the income.
It worries me that RTP is free precisely because as a free product it will
be hard for QSSL to justify ongong investment in it. Perhaps the floppy
demo disk could remain free as a teaser for the full OS.
Teamed up with (as co-branded with) one of the huge marketing companies like
Yahoo or Excite, and sold at a reasonable price - say $50 - $100 per copy -
QNX RTP should be able to generate enough income to justify its own
existence AND meet QSSL’s goal of it being a promotion for their real time
business.
Free makes me nervous about the future of the product (and the company), and
it probably does the same for other corporates who may consider its usage as
a desktop OS (don’t flame me, I know it’s not meant to be a desktop OS).
Maybe version two could have a price while version one remains free.
Andrew
I think they probably will come up with some ‘value pack’ including all
licensed stuff, like DVD player, 128-bit encryption, Java, etc.
IMHO it is better to keep a system suitable for development free,
otherwise it will never gain enough acceptance given competition from
GNU.
Andrew wrote:
From my perspective, QSSL will go where their customers pay
them to go (mostly big OEM).. That means if nobody waves big box to have
HTML 4.0, streaming, wireless, MPEG4, then you won’t see it. The reason
being that they will have their resources assigned to “income
generating” task.I agree Mario. QSSL should go where the money is. Thats why I don’t
think that RTP should be free. Free software means - no money (from that
software anyway). Sure fewer people are going to use it if it costs $100,
but at least there is an income stream from it, and the better the
marketing, the more the income.It worries me that RTP is free precisely because as a free product it will
be hard for QSSL to justify ongong investment in it. Perhaps the floppy
demo disk could remain free as a teaser for the full OS.Teamed up with (as co-branded with) one of the huge marketing companies like
Yahoo or Excite, and sold at a reasonable price - say $50 - $100 per copy -
QNX RTP should be able to generate enough income to justify its own
existence AND meet QSSL’s goal of it being a promotion for their real time
business.Free makes me nervous about the future of the product (and the company), and
it probably does the same for other corporates who may consider its usage as
a desktop OS (don’t flame me, I know it’s not meant to be a desktop OS).Maybe version two could have a price while version one remains free.
Andrew
IMHO
To argue this point clearly, I will define some of QSSL’s key objectives
(naturally these are assumptions);
Objective 1: To make money
Objective 2: To extend the user base & developer base of QNX products
Put a price on RTP and sell it to consumers and business users for $50 - $80
a copy. Market it effectively through companies whose primary purpose is to
market things, and who already have the eyeballs, hearts and minds of the
consumers. Get it out to as many people as possible, but make money from it
at the same time.
Give it away free to anyone who wants to register as a software developer -
simple, easy, no hassle, no strict requirements to prove you are a
developer.
The above structure makes it available free to anyone technically minded
(those that develop software and influence the rest of the world), whilst
still valuing the software by putting a price on it for consumers and
business.
Developers are attracted to a large user base. If the RTP is sold to
consumers for money, then QSSL can afford to invest in activities which
promote the software and build a large user base. For example - and getting
back to the Yahoo alliance idea - , if QSSL cut a deal with Yahoo to co
promote and co brand RTP so that it was on every Yahoo page served, sold for
$50 a copy with half going to QSSL and half going to Yahoo, it seems likely
that downloads would be at least 50,000 per day, but with people paying for
the software. That pays for developers at QSSL and porting and advertising
and support - WITHOUT compromising the size of the user base. If anything,
such a strategy would spread the QNX name further and wider than the current
strategy because Yahoo is inherently newsworthy, and isn’t that one of the
objectives - to get the QNX name out there?
The suggestion that QNX RTP has to be free to compete with Linux and FreeBSD
is wrong. That implies an underlying assumption that QNX RTP is equivalent
to, or the same as the Linux distros and free Unixes - it is not. QNX can
and should be sold to consumers for money because it does something that
people want and the market has been asking for, and something that Linux and
Unix does not do. QNX RTP is a great machine for the desktop. I’ve tried
it and I use it and it’s true. It’s not perfect, but it’s as close as we
have seen so far. The release of the StarOffice source will only enhance
this. QNX should not be perceived as another me too free xnix operating
system, it should be perceived as a head to head competitor with Microsoft
Windows - the desktop OS with a solid foot in the Linux/Unix camp. This
market already accepts the idea of paying for operating systems and OS
upgrades.
QNX RTP has to run a different race to that being run from Linux and Unix,
or it will be forced to compete on the terms of that race, which is that
all software must be free.
Not having money means not having leverage to make the big promotional
deals.
The current strategy has attracted hardly a squeak of attention from the
Internet, despite that fact that the software is free. There has been
nothing on ZDNet, yahoo, CMPnet, byte or Cnet. I think there has been a
mention on only slashdot and dr dobbs and a few minor players.
In summary, if the point is to get a large user base, developers and money,
then RTP should be sold to consumers, should be free to developers and
should be marketed by an Internet company with huge daily hits, such as
Yahoo or Excite. It must compete with Windows directly because there is
money in that market. it must not compete with Linux because there is no
money in Linux - and because it isn’t the same as Linux. Money equates to
developers, support, upgrades etc which leads to consumer confidence in the
future of the product.
The alternative is a free os which is simply an advertisement and which is
entirely funded out of QSSL’s real time clients. Doesn’t sound like much of
a future to me.
Just my $2
Andrew
Andrew wrote:
IMHO
To argue this point clearly, I will define some of QSSL’s key objectives
(naturally these are assumptions);Objective 1: To make money
Objective 2: To extend the user base & developer base of QNX productsPut a price on RTP and sell it to consumers and business users for $50 - $80
a copy. Market it effectively through companies whose primary purpose is to
market things, and who already have the eyeballs, hearts and minds of the
consumers. Get it out to as many people as possible, but make money from it
at the same time.
Andrew,
besides Internet and QSSx distribution channels I would like to see the
QNX RTD CD also in qualified book stores… and even greater,
additional with a book!
Hello Frank, you know that many QNXers and me would like a Neutrino (QNX
RTP) book from you, too…
Have a look to book stores… you will find books of lot of OSs and
RTOSs, but what about QNX? It’s an exception to find the Kolnick or
Krten books… if not, so QNX isn’t existing !!!
Perhaps we have the chance to see more QNX books in the future to fill
the gap between Unix and Linux books ??
Germany has a great University book store chain (Lehmanns) with
additional online shop http://www.lob.de. They sold the first Linux
software in Germany and would be happy to market and sell the QNX RTP
CD, too!
Jutta
My $0.02 here:
QNX is giving us a free OS (for noncommercial development) and they are getting
some excellent testers of their product. In the long run QNXrtp will be a better
product faster. I wouldn’t pay anyone to be a beta tester. Would you? Also it
gives us all a chance to make our mark either with technical knowledge or creating
applications on QNXrtp. QNXrtp will make ‘the big time’ and we are at the ground
floor…
Be careful of trying to tell a company what they should and should not do. If you
have such good ideas then start your own company. I did and I learned there is
more to a business than just good ideas. I’m not trying to ruffle feathers here
but there are many other issues we are not aware of.
Keep discussing your ideas - people do listen - but continue to keep the emotion
under control. To many fanatics die for misplaced emotions.
KenR
Jutta Steinhoff wrote:
Andrew wrote:
IMHO
To argue this point clearly, I will define some of QSSL’s key objectives
(naturally these are assumptions);Objective 1: To make money
Objective 2: To extend the user base & developer base of QNX productsPut a price on RTP and sell it to consumers and business users for $50 - $80
a copy. Market it effectively through companies whose primary purpose is to
market things, and who already have the eyeballs, hearts and minds of the
consumers. Get it out to as many people as possible, but make money from it
at the same time.Andrew,
besides Internet and QSSx distribution channels I would like to see the
QNX RTD CD also in qualified book stores… and even greater,
additional with a book!
I has been told that some magazines already expressed interest to ship
the CD.
Hello Frank, you know that many QNXers and me would like a Neutrino (QNX
RTP) book from you, too…Have a look to book stores… you will find books of lot of OSs and
RTOSs, but what about QNX? It’s an exception to find the Kolnick or
Krten books… if not, so QNX isn’t existing !!!Perhaps we have the chance to see more QNX books in the future to fill
the gap between Unix and Linux books ??
Don’t worry Jutta, O’Reilly and friends aren’t blind & deaf. As soon as
they hear demand, they’ll do something. Lack of books for QNX4 is due to
lack of general public interest. Hopefully, it will change with RTP 
Cheers,
I do not mean to offend you and if I did I apologize. I just wanted to express
my view also. (The attack against the US ship in the Arabian Peninsula set me
off.)
KenR
Andrew wrote:
I assume that the advocacy group is here to allow people to throw around
ideas without anyone at QSSL (or anywhere else) taking offence at me
advocating my opinion.
andrew
“Ken Recchia” <> rectech@iname.com> > wrote in message
news:> 39E7A169.4B188516@iname.com> …
My $0.02 here:QNX is giving us a free OS (for noncommercial development) and they are
getting
some excellent testers of their product. In the long run QNXrtp will be a
better
product faster. I wouldn’t pay anyone to be a beta tester. Would you?
Also it
gives us all a chance to make our mark either with technical knowledge or
creating
applications on QNXrtp. QNXrtp will make ‘the big time’ and we are at the
ground
floor…Be careful of trying to tell a company what they should and should not do.
If you
have such good ideas then start your own company. I did and I learned
there is
more to a business than just good ideas. I’m not trying to ruffle
feathers here
but there are many other issues we are not aware of.Keep discussing your ideas - people do listen - but continue to keep the
emotion
under control. To many fanatics die for misplaced emotions.KenR
I assume that the advocacy group is here to allow people to throw around
ideas without anyone at QSSL (or anywhere else) taking offence at me
advocating my opinion.
andrew
“Ken Recchia” <rectech@iname.com> wrote in message
news:39E7A169.4B188516@iname.com…
My $0.02 here:
QNX is giving us a free OS (for noncommercial development) and they are
getting
some excellent testers of their product. In the long run QNXrtp will be a
better
product faster. I wouldn’t pay anyone to be a beta tester. Would you?
Also it
gives us all a chance to make our mark either with technical knowledge or
creating
applications on QNXrtp. QNXrtp will make ‘the big time’ and we are at the
ground
floor…Be careful of trying to tell a company what they should and should not do.
If you
have such good ideas then start your own company. I did and I learned
there is
more to a business than just good ideas. I’m not trying to ruffle
feathers here
but there are many other issues we are not aware of.Keep discussing your ideas - people do listen - but continue to keep the
emotion
under control. To many fanatics die for misplaced emotions.KenR
I’m Australian. I saw it on the news and any loss of life is a tragedy, war
in the middle east is scary and deplorable, but it is on the other side of
the world…
andrew
“Ken Recchia” <rectech@iname.com> wrote in message
news:39E7A827.CDB27C33@iname.com…
I do not mean to offend you and if I did I apologize. I just wanted to
express
my view also. (The attack against the US ship in the Arabian Peninsula
set me
off.)KenR
Andrew wrote:
I assume that the advocacy group is here to allow people to throw around
ideas without anyone at QSSL (or anywhere else) taking offence at me
advocating my opinion.
andrew
“Ken Recchia” <> rectech@iname.com> > wrote in message
news:> 39E7A169.4B188516@iname.com> …
My $0.02 here:QNX is giving us a free OS (for noncommercial development) and they
are
getting
some excellent testers of their product. In the long run QNXrtp will
be a
better
product faster. I wouldn’t pay anyone to be a beta tester. Would
you?
Also it
gives us all a chance to make our mark either with technical knowledge
or
creating
applications on QNXrtp. QNXrtp will make ‘the big time’ and we are at
the
ground
floor…Be careful of trying to tell a company what they should and should not
do.
If you
have such good ideas then start your own company. I did and I learned
there is
more to a business than just good ideas. I’m not trying to ruffle
feathers here
but there are many other issues we are not aware of.Keep discussing your ideas - people do listen - but continue to keep
the
emotion
under control. To many fanatics die for misplaced emotions.KenR
I want to be clear on another matter. I don’t want anyone to feel they are
unable to express their thoughts for fear of being picked on. Quite the
opposite - I was trying to take your idea further and try to identify what would
be stumbling blocks to getting it done.
Andrew wrote:
I’m Australian.
Your country did a great job with the Olympics. I want to take my family there
sometime.
I saw it on the news and any loss of life is a tragedy, war
in the middle east is scary and deplorable, but it is on the other side of
the world..
This discussion might be better suited for another area.
KenR
andrew
“Ken Recchia” <> rectech@iname.com> > wrote in message
news:> 39E7A827.CDB27C33@iname.com> …
I do not mean to offend you and if I did I apologize. I just wanted to
express
my view also. (The attack against the US ship in the Arabian Peninsula
set me
off.)KenR
Andrew wrote:
I assume that the advocacy group is here to allow people to throw around
ideas without anyone at QSSL (or anywhere else) taking offence at me
advocating my opinion.
andrew
“Ken Recchia” <> rectech@iname.com> > wrote in message
news:> 39E7A169.4B188516@iname.com> …
My $0.02 here:QNX is giving us a free OS (for noncommercial development) and they
are
getting
some excellent testers of their product. In the long run QNXrtp will
be a
better
product faster. I wouldn’t pay anyone to be a beta tester. Would
you?
Also it
gives us all a chance to make our mark either with technical knowledge
or
creating
applications on QNXrtp. QNXrtp will make ‘the big time’ and we are at
the
ground
floor…Be careful of trying to tell a company what they should and should not
do.
If you
have such good ideas then start your own company. I did and I learned
there is
more to a business than just good ideas. I’m not trying to ruffle
feathers here
but there are many other issues we are not aware of.Keep discussing your ideas - people do listen - but continue to keep
the
emotion
under control. To many fanatics die for misplaced emotions.KenR
Hi Ken,
No offence taken here at all.
It’s all just a bit of fun.
Cheers
Andrew
Igor Kovalenko wrote:
Jutta Steinhoff wrote:
Andrew wrote:
IMHO
To argue this point clearly, I will define some of QSSL’s key objectives
(naturally these are assumptions);Objective 1: To make money
Objective 2: To extend the user base & developer base of QNX productsPut a price on RTP and sell it to consumers and business users for $50 - $80
a copy. Market it effectively through companies whose primary purpose is to
market things, and who already have the eyeballs, hearts and minds of the
consumers. Get it out to as many people as possible, but make money from it
at the same time.Andrew,
besides Internet and QSSx distribution channels I would like to see the
QNX RTD CD also in qualified book stores… and even greater,
additional with a book!
I has been told that some magazines already expressed interest to ship
the CD.
…what means to distribute the CD in the same way like the QNX demo
diskette in the past?
I see advantages and disadvantages with such a strategy. Do you think
people are willing to install a complete OS just to have a look to it??
(Ulrich is still angry about QNX after demaging his Linux partition with
the Conference CD… regardless what cool stuff will be included in the
future
I think it’s better to distribute a cool RTP Demo diskette with an
Internet link to get.qnx.com, so they can decide to download or to
order.
[clip…]
Perhaps we have the chance to see more QNX books in the future to fill
the gap between Unix and Linux books ??Don’t worry Jutta, O’Reilly and friends aren’t blind & deaf. As soon as
they hear demand, they’ll do something.
Igor, do you mean they will pay for writing the books??
For my understanding O’Reilly is a publisher who decides printing after
getting the manuscripts… and not vice versa. May be I’m wrong?
Lack of books for QNX4 is due to lack of general public interest.
Hopefully, it will change with RTP >
And why do you think bookstores sold QNX docs in the past before knowing
about Frank’s books ? There is much interest but only 3 books until
today.
My impression is that QSSL is not interested in promoting books which
are not published by themselves.
BTW, do you see any promotion for the QSSL-Krtn-books in the QSSL
distribution channels? Any flyers together with QNX deliveries??
Just a direct question to all, listening from QSSL:
What about to encourage well experienced autors like e.g. Frank Kolnick
to write QNX RTP books ?
Be sure that more good books are appreciated in the growing QNX market!
BTW, the reason why we promote ourselves the QNX books is to save much
time for support And our customers are extremely happy with Frank’s
book… so we are, too !!!
Jutta
Jutta Steinhoff wrote:
…what means to distribute the CD in the same way like the QNX demo
diskette in the past?
I see advantages and disadvantages with such a strategy. Do you think
people are willing to install a complete OS just to have a look to it??
(Ulrich is still angry about QNX after demaging his Linux partition with
the Conference CD… regardless what cool stuff will be included in the
future >
Well, that was a sad mistake. Still, I believe many people will want to
install and look. I did install BeOS just out of curiosity. By the way,
that unfortunate episode with Linux fs bug just proves how right QSSL
was to limit initial exposure of RTP to small number of people. Damage
it not really big
Igor, do you mean they will pay for writing the books??
No. But they’ll pay for sales.
For my understanding O’Reilly is a publisher who decides printing after
getting the manuscripts… and not vice versa. May be I’m wrong?
When sheriffs on Old Wild West announced reward for a criminal, they did
not pay for hunting. Still, people did hunt
I mean, when it becomes obvious that there is an opportunity, somebody
will take it.
My impression is that QSSL is not interested in promoting books which
are not published by themselves.
BTW, do you see any promotion for the QSSL-Krtn-books in the QSSL
distribution channels? Any flyers together with QNX deliveries??
Well, I don’t think they discourage anyone of writing a book either.
It’s not their business. And to promote actively one particular book
would be unfair for others.
Just a direct question to all, listening from QSSL:
What about to encourage well experienced autors like e.g. Frank Kolnick
to write QNX RTP books ?
Be sure that more good books are appreciated in the growing QNX market!
There is no better encouragement than big audience. When there are
enough potential readers, I might go and write one myself
BTW, the reason why we promote ourselves the QNX books is to save much
time for support >
book… so we are, too !!!
Frank is good, indeed
Cheers,
who wants to Collaborate and write QNX in a Nutshell?
Scott
Igor Kovalenko wrote:
Jutta Steinhoff wrote:
Andrew wrote:
IMHO
To argue this point clearly, I will define some of QSSL’s key objectives
(naturally these are assumptions);Objective 1: To make money
Objective 2: To extend the user base & developer base of QNX productsPut a price on RTP and sell it to consumers and business users for $50 - $80
a copy. Market it effectively through companies whose primary purpose is to
market things, and who already have the eyeballs, hearts and minds of the
consumers. Get it out to as many people as possible, but make money from it
at the same time.Andrew,
besides Internet and QSSx distribution channels I would like to see the
QNX RTD CD also in qualified book stores… and even greater,
additional with a book!
I has been told that some magazines already expressed interest to ship
the CD.Hello Frank, you know that many QNXers and me would like a Neutrino (QNX
RTP) book from you, too…Have a look to book stores… you will find books of lot of OSs and
RTOSs, but what about QNX? It’s an exception to find the Kolnick or
Krten books… if not, so QNX isn’t existing !!!Perhaps we have the chance to see more QNX books in the future to fill
the gap between Unix and Linux books ??Don’t worry Jutta, O’Reilly and friends aren’t blind & deaf. As soon as
they hear demand, they’ll do something. Lack of books for QNX4 is due to
lack of general public interest. Hopefully, it will change with RTP >Cheers,
- igor
I can help.
KenR
“J. Scott Franko” wrote:
who wants to Collaborate and write QNX in a Nutshell?
Scott
Igor Kovalenko wrote:
Jutta Steinhoff wrote:
Andrew wrote:
IMHO
To argue this point clearly, I will define some of QSSL’s key objectives
(naturally these are assumptions);Objective 1: To make money
Objective 2: To extend the user base & developer base of QNX productsPut a price on RTP and sell it to consumers and business users for $50 - $80
a copy. Market it effectively through companies whose primary purpose is to
market things, and who already have the eyeballs, hearts and minds of the
consumers. Get it out to as many people as possible, but make money from it
at the same time.Andrew,
besides Internet and QSSx distribution channels I would like to see the
QNX RTD CD also in qualified book stores… and even greater,
additional with a book!
I has been told that some magazines already expressed interest to ship
the CD.Hello Frank, you know that many QNXers and me would like a Neutrino (QNX
RTP) book from you, too…Have a look to book stores… you will find books of lot of OSs and
RTOSs, but what about QNX? It’s an exception to find the Kolnick or
Krten books… if not, so QNX isn’t existing !!!Perhaps we have the chance to see more QNX books in the future to fill
the gap between Unix and Linux books ??Don’t worry Jutta, O’Reilly and friends aren’t blind & deaf. As soon as
they hear demand, they’ll do something. Lack of books for QNX4 is due to
lack of general public interest. Hopefully, it will change with RTP >Cheers,
- igor
Igor Kovalenko wrote:
Jutta Steinhoff wrote:
For my understanding O’Reilly is a publisher who decides printing after
getting the manuscripts… and not vice versa. May be I’m wrong?
When sheriffs on Old Wild West announced reward for a criminal, they did
not pay for hunting. Still, people did hunt >
OK, will wait for the result of the “hunt” for QNX RTP books
… When there are
enough potential readers, I might go and write one myself >
… would be interesting !
It seems the first coproductions are ready to take off
Cheers,
Jutta