Miguel Simon wrote:
Hi Jutta…
First I have to say that QNX Nto is the best thing out there. Like many
others, I am very thankful for the opportunity to experiment with rtp6.2-NC.Having said that, I would add that the company I work with bought a
developers license for rtp6.1 because I could demonstrate to them that
this made sense.
Miguel, when they own rtp 6.1, what’s the problem to update to 6.2
(Momentics SE) ?
My experience has been that when researches have been
able to try something, they strongly influence the
go-ahead-and-buy-the-lisence issue.
You could and can always do with QNX… a sign for a legal eval.
version shouldn’t be a problem…
Jutta Steinhoff wrote:
Miguel,
are you expecting that all companies are distributing a NC version
of their fully commercial products, software as well as hardware ??I do not quite understand the point, but I do not expect any thing.
You was complaining that the new NC version is shrinked compared with
the old rtp 6.1 version.
My point is that you can’t expect that companies are ‘distributing’
fully commercial versions of their products w/o control.
I say that to demonstrate a proof of concept to some unwilling set of
engineers somewhere that rtp compiles the same code for x86 and ppc with
no modifications, I would have to go back to rtp6.1.
You have not to go back to rtp6.1 when talking with QNX sales before…
BTW, there are also fairs and roadshows to have a look to QNX
demonstrations.
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Do you think it’s the wrong idea from QSSL that pot. customers have
to contact them when they want to try non x86 platforms ???No, QSSL has done a very good job with rtp6.2-PE, and they have the
right to do whatever they do. However, for a number or reasons rtp6.1
had ppc capabilities, and now rtp6.2 does not. This is a fact, right?
When I remember right, it was by chance that PPC support was included,
afaik, it was not intended.
There are a number of ramifications that come from this fact, but they
are too numerous for me to dwell in them. An important one is that I
was always able to demonstrate to engineers every where the power of QNX
Neutrino without worrying about a license, but now I have to tell the
same people to believe me.
… or to contact a QNX sales. My experience is that non x86 use is
always for commercial applications …
Whence I have to go back to rtp6.1 for
demonstrating many of the capabilities of QNX Nto with some prove of
concept work.
Have in mind that QSSL has commercial interests… and it should be your
interest that they “survive”. There are enough ways for trying newest
commercial versions, you have just to choose the right formal way…
May be you are not aware how much illegal soft- and hardware (!)
copies are used in industry… and NA is no exception !!!You are right again, Jutta. I am not much aware. The fist thing we did
when rtp6.1 came out was to buy a developers seat. The first thing I am
trying to convince decision makers to do is to upgrade the old seat and
to buy a second developers seat. This is what companies do in the first
place; I doubt that serious companies would not do likewise.
Hmm, theory and practise …
I’m long enough in business and know about what I’m talking )
Cheers,
Jutta