I think your missing teh point. I’m certain that you missed the point when
you replied to my post. I’m NOT advocating that anyone break the EULA.
I’ve worked with QNX for 17 years and I’d like to see them around for
another 17 years. So I know they need to make some money.
But I’m saying that QSSL should make it much easier to comply with the EULA.
If they price their product so astronomically high for individuals and small
companies then people will bend the rules. I’m saying make the rules more
fair and most people will honor them.
I have sold add on products for QNX. I just supply the software and give
support for installing and using it. I will also give support for QNX in
general (for an added price).
Wouldn’t it be a good thing if QSSL let me buy say 20 runtimes and resell
them one at a time? They would make some money from people who might
otherwise have just used NC inappropriately AND I would assume the
responsibility of fielding tech support questions from people that I sold
the product (QNX runtime) to.
Kevin, I’m not sure if it’s still amusing for you when you have really
read all legal stuff…
It’s not very amusing for me to get again and again advices from you to
break the EULA from QSSL!
Notice, when we are not willing to warrent for an OS because of it has
to be sold as “customised version” although an original product is
requested, so it doesn’t mean that we don’t give full warrenty for all
sold software and hardware products.
Kevin, your ideas are sometimes unrealistic …
Kevin Stallard wrote:
Whats so funny is that you guys are straining at the most solvable
have ever seen.
Thanks for the laughs…it’s been amusing watch you two go round and
and round when the problem can be very simply solved and you can look
to your customers to boot.
Imagine you don’t want to make an install CD for your customer, but you
willing to port your app to a different OS. And an OS that has NO
please read carefully all legal stuff from QSSL
please stop your advice when you don’t understand the topic
notice, industrial users (VARs, OEMs, not hobbyists or freaks!)
want original software products and no second hand copies from
whatever source when they need a separate (un-bundled) Runtime
license for a Target system.
Kevin Stallard wrote:
- Buy QNX runtimes
- Make CD with your software and QNX Runtime installer
- Give CD to customer.
- Include QNX Runtime in purchase price and a bit more for your
in regards to the installer.
Camz, I can’t follow you.
The only I understand is that you are not familiar with non
C-development systems …
email@example.com > wrote:
Armin Steinhoff <> firstname.lastname@example.org> > wrote:
Yes … I’m the DEVELOPER and I’m not an OEM or VAR.
So there is no issue with you buying qnx runtimes and then
to your customers (aside from not being able to easily package
for them to install).
Just to make it simple and clear: I’m not the OEM and I’m not
to sell QNX.
Ah, now we get to the crux of it. You don’t have any problem
the runtimes, your problem is that you don’t want to do it.
very different problem. In this case, the requirement for your
to buy a development seat is not QSS’s “fault”, it is yours for
to sell the runtime licensing along with your product.
They have to give at least the warrenty that their system
Actually, they don’t. And to be quite honest, you probably
to your customers what the OS does since its an enabling layer
does not do anything until you actually want to run an app.
Again: I’m not in the position to handle all warranty and
of their OS in place of QSSL.
Again, this is a restriction that YOU have placed on yourself.
honesty though, this “requirement” is not unique to you, or QNX.
the same issue with any other OS, so it’s harldy fair to
is QSS’s fault that you would need to deal with it and are not
are unwilling to do so. Sounds like you want to be in the
writing software, but not in the business of selling it, and
that someone will magically pay you.
There are other alternatives >
Sure, you could use Linux, have all the same issues, and not
to complain to. (you certainly wouldn’t have any hope in hell of
any sort of warranty for the OS, let alone any app developed on