HD + CD + ZIP

My system needs a HD and CD plus a floppy and a ZIP drive. The QNX knowlege
base is a little unclear. The floppy and ZIP are DOS filesystems. The CDROM
is set as a slave and looks like the ZIP needs to be a second slave? Is
this where the CS -cable select - is this possible?

W/O the CDROM, I can start the Dosfsys -s and it mounts as /dos/a and /dos/b
which is the expected behaviour. Since I start Fsys.eide first before the
Fsys.floppy, the ZIP drive looks like /dos/a and the floppy as /dos/b -
whickh is Ok.

With the CDROM attached, the Dosfsys fails to recognize the ZIP drive.
Hmmm.
What am I missing. It’s an iomega, EIDE unit.

Walt

“Walt” <walt@precitech.com> wrote in message
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My system needs a HD and CD plus a floppy and a ZIP drive. The QNX
knowlege
base is a little unclear. The floppy and ZIP are DOS filesystems. The
CDROM
is set as a slave and looks like the ZIP needs to be a second slave? Is
this where the CS -cable select - is this possible?

W/O the CDROM, I can start the Dosfsys -s and it mounts as /dos/a and
/dos/b
which is the expected behaviour. Since I start Fsys.eide first before the
Fsys.floppy, the ZIP drive looks like /dos/a and the floppy as /dos/b -
whickh is Ok.

With the CDROM attached, the Dosfsys fails to recognize the ZIP drive.
Hmmm.
What am I missing. It’s an iomega, EIDE unit.

Look at the back of the unit (either CDROM or ZIP) there should be jumpers
to set slave/master mode.
One needs to be master and the other one slave, doesn’t matter which is
which.

I had bad experience with cable select mode, i tried to avoid it.

Walt

Thanks Mario,
First, sorry about my incorrect reply EMail address.
The HD, CD and ZIP are all on the same cable. The HD is set as master, the
CD is slave and so is the ZIP drive. Fsys does not see the ZIP drive. My
partner in crime here ( the driver guru ) is unavailable for 3 weeks and
thought I could figure it out < grin >
Walt



“Mario Charest” postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote in message
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“Walt” <> walt@precitech.com> > wrote in message
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My system needs a HD and CD plus a floppy and a ZIP drive. The QNX
knowlege
base is a little unclear. The floppy and ZIP are DOS filesystems. The
CDROM
is set as a slave and looks like the ZIP needs to be a second slave? Is
this where the CS -cable select - is this possible?

W/O the CDROM, I can start the Dosfsys -s and it mounts as /dos/a and
/dos/b
which is the expected behaviour. Since I start Fsys.eide first before
the
Fsys.floppy, the ZIP drive looks like /dos/a and the floppy as /dos/b -
whickh is Ok.

With the CDROM attached, the Dosfsys fails to recognize the ZIP drive.
Hmmm.
What am I missing. It’s an iomega, EIDE unit.

Look at the back of the unit (either CDROM or ZIP) there should be jumpers
to set slave/master mode.
One needs to be master and the other one slave, doesn’t matter which is
which.

I had bad experience with cable select mode, i tried to avoid it.


Walt
\

Hi Walt,

You can only have one master device and one slave device on an ATA cable. Remove
one of your slave devices and put it on one of the other cables. ATA specs say that
a valid configuration is master by itself or master with a slave. Slaves on their own
without a master is an illegal configuration (even though it may work).

Also if you want to use cable select use 80 pin cables, as the old 40 pin stuff
doesn’t work properly with cable select. In general cable select is a sketchy
business, best to jumper the devices as master or slave.

Best regards,

Erick

Walt <wlewandowski@precitech.com> wrote:

Thanks Mario,
First, sorry about my incorrect reply EMail address.
The HD, CD and ZIP are all on the same cable. The HD is set as master, the
CD is slave and so is the ZIP drive. Fsys does not see the ZIP drive. My
partner in crime here ( the driver guru ) is unavailable for 3 weeks and
thought I could figure it out < grin
Walt



“Mario Charest” postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote in message
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“Walt” <> walt@precitech.com> > wrote in message
news:c0rbkr$cgn$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
My system needs a HD and CD plus a floppy and a ZIP drive. The QNX
knowlege
base is a little unclear. The floppy and ZIP are DOS filesystems. The
CDROM
is set as a slave and looks like the ZIP needs to be a second slave? Is
this where the CS -cable select - is this possible?

W/O the CDROM, I can start the Dosfsys -s and it mounts as /dos/a and
/dos/b
which is the expected behaviour. Since I start Fsys.eide first before
the
Fsys.floppy, the ZIP drive looks like /dos/a and the floppy as /dos/b -
whickh is Ok.

With the CDROM attached, the Dosfsys fails to recognize the ZIP drive.
Hmmm.
What am I missing. It’s an iomega, EIDE unit.

Look at the back of the unit (either CDROM or ZIP) there should be jumpers
to set slave/master mode.
One needs to be master and the other one slave, doesn’t matter which is
which.

I had bad experience with cable select mode, i tried to avoid it.


Walt

\

Erick Muis
Hardware Group
QNX Software Systems Ltd.
Email: emuis at qnx.com

“Walt” <wlewandowski@precitech.com> wrote in message
news:c0t3hc$r5v$1@inn.qnx.com

Thanks Mario,
First, sorry about my incorrect reply EMail address.
The HD, CD and ZIP are all on the same cable. The HD is set as master,
the
CD is slave and so is the ZIP drive. Fsys does not see the ZIP drive. My
partner in crime here ( the driver guru ) is unavailable for 3 weeks and
thought I could figure it out < grin

I would never though of asking someone if they connected 3 devices on a IDE,
cable. First time I ever heard of somebody doing that, lol!

Where did you get that cable???


Walt



“Mario Charest” postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote in message
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“Walt” <> walt@precitech.com> > wrote in message
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My system needs a HD and CD plus a floppy and a ZIP drive. The QNX
knowlege
base is a little unclear. The floppy and ZIP are DOS filesystems. The
CDROM
is set as a slave and looks like the ZIP needs to be a second slave?
Is
this where the CS -cable select - is this possible?

W/O the CDROM, I can start the Dosfsys -s and it mounts as /dos/a and
/dos/b
which is the expected behaviour. Since I start Fsys.eide first before
the
Fsys.floppy, the ZIP drive looks like /dos/a and the floppy as
/dos/b -
whickh is Ok.

With the CDROM attached, the Dosfsys fails to recognize the ZIP drive.
Hmmm.
What am I missing. It’s an iomega, EIDE unit.

Look at the back of the unit (either CDROM or ZIP) there should be
jumpers
to set slave/master mode.
One needs to be master and the other one slave, doesn’t matter which is
which.

I had bad experience with cable select mode, i tried to avoid it.


Walt


\

Hi Mario,
Yeah, kinda’ stupid. Anyway, I put the ZIP drive on the secondary IDE and
set it as master and now I can at least recognize it. Started the Fsys.eide
for -a170 and interrupt 15, got Dosfsys to create /dos/a ( floppy) and
/dos/b for the zip. I think I have to tell Fsys.floppy that fd1 is using
irq 15. As soon as I can get near the machine, I’ll try it a let ya’ know
how it turned out!.. Wanna’ buy a cable! :-/
Walt



“Mario Charest” postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote in message
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“Walt” <> wlewandowski@precitech.com> > wrote in message
news:c0t3hc$r5v$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Thanks Mario,
First, sorry about my incorrect reply EMail address.
The HD, CD and ZIP are all on the same cable. The HD is set as master,
the
CD is slave and so is the ZIP drive. Fsys does not see the ZIP drive.
My
partner in crime here ( the driver guru ) is unavailable for 3 weeks and
thought I could figure it out < grin

I would never though of asking someone if they connected 3 devices on a
IDE,
cable. First time I ever heard of somebody doing that, lol!

Where did you get that cable???


Walt



“Mario Charest” postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote in message
news:c0rj8f$iou$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …

“Walt” <> walt@precitech.com> > wrote in message
news:c0rbkr$cgn$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
My system needs a HD and CD plus a floppy and a ZIP drive. The QNX
knowlege
base is a little unclear. The floppy and ZIP are DOS filesystems.
The
CDROM
is set as a slave and looks like the ZIP needs to be a second slave?
Is
this where the CS -cable select - is this possible?

W/O the CDROM, I can start the Dosfsys -s and it mounts as /dos/a
and
/dos/b
which is the expected behaviour. Since I start Fsys.eide first
before
the
Fsys.floppy, the ZIP drive looks like /dos/a and the floppy as
/dos/b -
whickh is Ok.

With the CDROM attached, the Dosfsys fails to recognize the ZIP
drive.
Hmmm.
What am I missing. It’s an iomega, EIDE unit.

Look at the back of the unit (either CDROM or ZIP) there should be
jumpers
to set slave/master mode.
One needs to be master and the other one slave, doesn’t matter which
is
which.

I had bad experience with cable select mode, i tried to avoid it.


Walt




\

“Walt” <wlewandowski@precitech.com> wrote in message
news:c100g1$bl2$1@inn.qnx.com

Hi Mario,
Yeah, kinda’ stupid. Anyway, I put the ZIP drive on the secondary IDE and
set it as master and now I can at least recognize it. Started the
Fsys.eide
for -a170 and interrupt 15, got Dosfsys to create /dos/a ( floppy) and
/dos/b for the zip. I think I have to tell Fsys.floppy that fd1 is using
irq 15.

No Fsys.floppy is for floppy drive only. Fsys.eide will deal with the
device ZIP drive.

how it turned out!.. Wanna’ buy a cable! :-/
Walt



“Mario Charest” postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote in message
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“Walt” <> wlewandowski@precitech.com> > wrote in message
news:c0t3hc$r5v$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Thanks Mario,
First, sorry about my incorrect reply EMail address.
The HD, CD and ZIP are all on the same cable. The HD is set as
master,
the
CD is slave and so is the ZIP drive. Fsys does not see the ZIP drive.
My
partner in crime here ( the driver guru ) is unavailable for 3 weeks
and
thought I could figure it out < grin

I would never though of asking someone if they connected 3 devices on a
IDE,
cable. First time I ever heard of somebody doing that, lol!

Where did you get that cable???


Walt



“Mario Charest” postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote in message
news:c0rj8f$iou$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …

“Walt” <> walt@precitech.com> > wrote in message
news:c0rbkr$cgn$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
My system needs a HD and CD plus a floppy and a ZIP drive. The
QNX
knowlege
base is a little unclear. The floppy and ZIP are DOS filesystems.
The
CDROM
is set as a slave and looks like the ZIP needs to be a second
slave?
Is
this where the CS -cable select - is this possible?

W/O the CDROM, I can start the Dosfsys -s and it mounts as /dos/a
and
/dos/b
which is the expected behaviour. Since I start Fsys.eide first
before
the
Fsys.floppy, the ZIP drive looks like /dos/a and the floppy as
/dos/b -
whickh is Ok.

With the CDROM attached, the Dosfsys fails to recognize the ZIP
drive.
Hmmm.
What am I missing. It’s an iomega, EIDE unit.

Look at the back of the unit (either CDROM or ZIP) there should be
jumpers
to set slave/master mode.
One needs to be master and the other one slave, doesn’t matter which
is
which.

I had bad experience with cable select mode, i tried to avoid it.


Walt






\

Mario Charest postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote:

“Walt” <> wlewandowski@precitech.com> > wrote in message
news:c0t3hc$r5v$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Thanks Mario,
First, sorry about my incorrect reply EMail address.
The HD, CD and ZIP are all on the same cable. The HD is set as master,
the
CD is slave and so is the ZIP drive. Fsys does not see the ZIP drive. My
partner in crime here ( the driver guru ) is unavailable for 3 weeks and
thought I could figure it out < grin

I would never though of asking someone if they connected 3 devices on a IDE,
cable. First time I ever heard of somebody doing that, lol!

Where did you get that cable???

I bought one that has 8 ATA connectors on it. Mind you I think it was made that
way for tower cases.

E.

Walt



“Mario Charest” postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote in message
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“Walt” <> walt@precitech.com> > wrote in message
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My system needs a HD and CD plus a floppy and a ZIP drive. The QNX
knowlege
base is a little unclear. The floppy and ZIP are DOS filesystems. The
CDROM
is set as a slave and looks like the ZIP needs to be a second slave?
Is
this where the CS -cable select - is this possible?

W/O the CDROM, I can start the Dosfsys -s and it mounts as /dos/a and
/dos/b
which is the expected behaviour. Since I start Fsys.eide first before
the
Fsys.floppy, the ZIP drive looks like /dos/a and the floppy as
/dos/b -
whickh is Ok.

With the CDROM attached, the Dosfsys fails to recognize the ZIP drive.
Hmmm.
What am I missing. It’s an iomega, EIDE unit.

Look at the back of the unit (either CDROM or ZIP) there should be
jumpers
to set slave/master mode.
One needs to be master and the other one slave, doesn’t matter which is
which.

I had bad experience with cable select mode, i tried to avoid it.


Walt



\

Erick Muis
Hardware Group
QNX Software Systems Ltd.
Email: emuis at qnx.com

“Erick Muis” <emuis@node55.ott.qnx.com> wrote in message
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Mario Charest postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote:

“Walt” <> wlewandowski@precitech.com> > wrote in message
news:c0t3hc$r5v$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Thanks Mario,
First, sorry about my incorrect reply EMail address.
The HD, CD and ZIP are all on the same cable. The HD is set as master,
the
CD is slave and so is the ZIP drive. Fsys does not see the ZIP drive.
My
partner in crime here ( the driver guru ) is unavailable for 3 weeks
and
thought I could figure it out < grin

I would never though of asking someone if they connected 3 devices on a
IDE,
cable. First time I ever heard of somebody doing that, lol!

Where did you get that cable???

I bought one that has 8 ATA connectors on it. Mind you I think it was
made that
way for tower cases.

ATA specs says 18 inches… Anything longer is asking for trouble (I’ve
seen it happened)

E.

Walt



“Mario Charest” postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote in message
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“Walt” <> walt@precitech.com> > wrote in message
news:c0rbkr$cgn$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
My system needs a HD and CD plus a floppy and a ZIP drive. The QNX
knowlege
base is a little unclear. The floppy and ZIP are DOS filesystems.
The
CDROM
is set as a slave and looks like the ZIP needs to be a second
slave?
Is
this where the CS -cable select - is this possible?

W/O the CDROM, I can start the Dosfsys -s and it mounts as /dos/a
and
/dos/b
which is the expected behaviour. Since I start Fsys.eide first
before
the
Fsys.floppy, the ZIP drive looks like /dos/a and the floppy as
/dos/b -
whickh is Ok.

With the CDROM attached, the Dosfsys fails to recognize the ZIP
drive.
Hmmm.
What am I missing. It’s an iomega, EIDE unit.

Look at the back of the unit (either CDROM or ZIP) there should be
jumpers
to set slave/master mode.
One needs to be master and the other one slave, doesn’t matter which
is
which.

I had bad experience with cable select mode, i tried to avoid it.


Walt








\


Erick Muis
Hardware Group
QNX Software Systems Ltd.
Email: emuis at qnx.com

Arghh,

Well, it almost works.

The HD is master, CDROM is slave on the first EIDE0, the Zip drive is master
on EIDE1.

Fsys.eide eide -a170 & recognized the ZIP drive.
Dosfsys & mounts the floppy as /dos/a, zip as dos/b seemingly Ok

I can read the contents of /dos/a just fine.
A cd /dos/b ( with a good zip disk ) gives me a ‘bad directory’ message
although the activity light illuminates so I know it is at least looking
for something )

Ah well, will poke around some more…
Walt


“Mario Charest” postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote in message
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“Walt” <> wlewandowski@precitech.com> > wrote in message
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Hi Mario,
Yeah, kinda’ stupid. Anyway, I put the ZIP drive on the secondary IDE
and
set it as master and now I can at least recognize it. Started the
Fsys.eide
for -a170 and interrupt 15, got Dosfsys to create /dos/a ( floppy) and
/dos/b for the zip. I think I have to tell Fsys.floppy that fd1 is
using
irq 15.

No Fsys.floppy is for floppy drive only. Fsys.eide will deal with the
device ZIP drive.

how it turned out!.. Wanna’ buy a cable! :-/
Walt



“Mario Charest” postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote in message
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“Walt” <> wlewandowski@precitech.com> > wrote in message
news:c0t3hc$r5v$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Thanks Mario,
First, sorry about my incorrect reply EMail address.
The HD, CD and ZIP are all on the same cable. The HD is set as
master,
the
CD is slave and so is the ZIP drive. Fsys does not see the ZIP
drive.
My
partner in crime here ( the driver guru ) is unavailable for 3 weeks
and
thought I could figure it out < grin

I would never though of asking someone if they connected 3 devices on
a
IDE,
cable. First time I ever heard of somebody doing that, lol!

Where did you get that cable???


Walt



“Mario Charest” postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote in message
news:c0rj8f$iou$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …

“Walt” <> walt@precitech.com> > wrote in message
news:c0rbkr$cgn$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
My system needs a HD and CD plus a floppy and a ZIP drive. The
QNX
knowlege
base is a little unclear. The floppy and ZIP are DOS
filesystems.
The
CDROM
is set as a slave and looks like the ZIP needs to be a second
slave?
Is
this where the CS -cable select - is this possible?

W/O the CDROM, I can start the Dosfsys -s and it mounts as
/dos/a
and
/dos/b
which is the expected behaviour. Since I start Fsys.eide first
before
the
Fsys.floppy, the ZIP drive looks like /dos/a and the floppy as
/dos/b -
whickh is Ok.

With the CDROM attached, the Dosfsys fails to recognize the ZIP
drive.
Hmmm.
What am I missing. It’s an iomega, EIDE unit.

Look at the back of the unit (either CDROM or ZIP) there should be
jumpers
to set slave/master mode.
One needs to be master and the other one slave, doesn’t matter
which
is
which.

I had bad experience with cable select mode, i tried to avoid it.


Walt








\

Walt <wlewandowski@precitech.com> wrote:

Well, it almost works.
Fsys.eide eide -a170 & recognized the ZIP drive.
Dosfsys & mounts the floppy as /dos/a, zip as dos/b seemingly Ok
I can read the contents of /dos/a just fine.
A cd /dos/b ( with a good zip disk ) gives me a ‘bad directory’ message
although the activity light illuminates so I know it is at least looking

Perhaps it is FAT32? Have you tried Fatfsys instead of Dosfsys?

Perhaps the ZIP disk is partitioned? Try a “mount -p /dev/hd1” and see
if there is a t6 (or similar) partition? Do this before starting
DOS filesystem driver.

Either way you should switch to Fatfsys (Dosfsys has been deprecated).

Mario Charest postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote:

MC > “Walt” <wlewandowski@precitech.com> wrote in message
MC > news:c100g1$bl2$1@inn.qnx.com

Hi Mario,
Yeah, kinda’ stupid. Anyway, I put the ZIP drive on the secondary IDE and
set it as master and now I can at least recognize it. Started the
MC > Fsys.eide
for -a170 and interrupt 15, got Dosfsys to create /dos/a ( floppy) and
/dos/b for the zip. I think I have to tell Fsys.floppy that fd1 is using
irq 15.

MC > No Fsys.floppy is for floppy drive only. Fsys.eide will deal with the
MC > device ZIP drive.

If I remember correctly, when Fsys.eise creates a drive name for a Zip
disk it calls it /dev/fdX.

I never knew quite why. It kind of makes sense. It is removable.

Thanks,
I works’s Ok. I set the jumpers on the ZIP drive to ‘alternate master’,
connected it to the second EIDE port on the Microbus MAT915 computer, added
:

" Fsys.eide …< orig stuff >,… eide -a170 -i15 & "

and Dosfsys correctly created /dos/a and dos/b

Since I started Fsys.eide before I started Fsys.floppy ( fd0 is the zip,
fd1 is the floppy ),

I started ( the ZIP is formatted for dos)

Dosfsys a=/dos/fd1 b=/dev/fd0

which made the floppy ‘/dos/a’ and the zip drive ‘/dos/b’

All is well now

Thanks
Walt




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Mario Charest postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote:

MC > “Walt” <> wlewandowski@precitech.com> > wrote in message
MC > news:c100g1$bl2$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Hi Mario,
Yeah, kinda’ stupid. Anyway, I put the ZIP drive on the secondary IDE
and
set it as master and now I can at least recognize it. Started the
MC > Fsys.eide
for -a170 and interrupt 15, got Dosfsys to create /dos/a ( floppy) and
/dos/b for the zip. I think I have to tell Fsys.floppy that fd1 is
using
irq 15.

MC > No Fsys.floppy is for floppy drive only. Fsys.eide will deal with
the
MC > device ZIP drive.

If I remember correctly, when Fsys.eise creates a drive name for a Zip
disk it calls it /dev/fdX.

I never knew quite why. It kind of makes sense. It is removable.