boot NTFS & QNX4 on one HDD

Could anybody recommend me a loader, that allow us to boot into QNX4 (par.
type 77) and into Windows 2k or XP (par. type NTFS) on one disk? Loader QNX4
does not recognize NTFS. Loader QNX6, in our first tested case, boot into
WXP (NTFS) but not into QNX4. In our second tested case, boot into QNX4 but
not into W2k (NTFS). If we have FAT32 instead of NTFS - no problem with both
loaders (4, 6). Have anybody some experience on this issue?

Tomá¹ VOGNAR

From my trials, there is no way to boot to both OS´s from a a loader if you
want to keep NTFS partition, unless you use a floppy disk to boot into QNX4.
I do know if some one else have a diferent alternative.


Oscar E. Soto


“Tomá¹ Vognar” <(vognar)@esys.cz> escribió en el mensaje
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Could anybody recommend me a loader, that allow us to boot into QNX4 (par.
type 77) and into Windows 2k or XP (par. type NTFS) on one disk? Loader
QNX4
does not recognize NTFS. Loader QNX6, in our first tested case, boot into
WXP (NTFS) but not into QNX4. In our second tested case, boot into QNX4
but
not into W2k (NTFS). If we have FAT32 instead of NTFS - no problem with
both
loaders (4, 6). Have anybody some experience on this issue?

Tomá¹ VOGNAR
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I use Boot-US. A free utility from www.download.com.

Augie

“Tomá¹ Vognar” <(vognar)@esys.cz> wrote in message
news:celpdd$rbt$1@inn.qnx.com

Could anybody recommend me a loader, that allow us to boot into QNX4 (par.
type 77) and into Windows 2k or XP (par. type NTFS) on one disk? Loader
QNX4
does not recognize NTFS. Loader QNX6, in our first tested case, boot into
WXP (NTFS) but not into QNX4. In our second tested case, boot into QNX4
but
not into W2k (NTFS). If we have FAT32 instead of NTFS - no problem with
both
loaders (4, 6). Have anybody some experience on this issue?

Tomá¹ VOGNAR
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Thank you, but its not free:
“Additionally, the whole package Boot-US may be tested in the non-licensed
version during a trial period of one month for free. If you want to use
Boot-US after this trial period on commercially used PCs, you must purchase
a license.”
But I will try it.

T.V.

“Augie” <augiehenriques@hotmail.com> pí¹e v diskusním pøíspìvku
news:ceo03r$i6m$1@inn.qnx.com

I use Boot-US. A free utility from > www.download.com> .

Augie

“Tomá¹ Vognar” <(vognar)@esys.cz> wrote in message
news:celpdd$rbt$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Could anybody recommend me a loader, that allow us to boot into QNX4
(par.
type 77) and into Windows 2k or XP (par. type NTFS) on one disk? Loader
QNX4
does not recognize NTFS. Loader QNX6, in our first tested case, boot
into
WXP (NTFS) but not into QNX4. In our second tested case, boot into QNX4
but
not into W2k (NTFS). If we have FAT32 instead of NTFS - no problem with
both
loaders (4, 6). Have anybody some experience on this issue?

Tomá¹ VOGNAR


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<(vognar)@esys.cz> says…

Could anybody recommend me a loader, that allow us to boot into QNX4 (par.
type 77) and into Windows 2k or XP (par. type NTFS) on one disk? Loader QNX4
does not recognize NTFS. Loader QNX6, in our first tested case, boot into
WXP (NTFS) but not into QNX4. In our second tested case, boot into QNX4 but
not into W2k (NTFS). If we have FAT32 instead of NTFS - no problem with both
loaders (4, 6). Have anybody some experience on this issue?

Tomá¹ VOGNAR

Hi,

Honestly I do not realize what is your problem. Primary boot loader
doesn’t have to recognize NTFS or whatever else filesystem you use. All
what it does it reads very first sector from partition (boot sector) to
memory and passes control to that code. That boot sector is actually
secondary loader that’s supposed to know underlying filesystem and how
to boot particular OS. Every pc1 loader of QNX 6 will do the trick.
Also you can use win2k or winxp native loader, with that exeption that
ntldr uses images of boot sectors rather than read actual boot sectors.
More details are available online:
http://ed1k.qnxclub.net/nt_qnx.html
Everything said there is applicable to QNX4 and win2k/xp with some
obviously changes, like

dd if=/dev/hd0t77 of=/dos-a/bootsect.qnx count=1 bs=512

AFAIR, QNX4 installation always put primary loader to MBR. So, it is
better to install QNX4 first and later win2k. If that order is
impossible you should restore primary loader and active partition.

Eduard

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In article <celpdd$rbt$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, =?iso-8859-2?Q?Tom=E1=B9_Vognar?=
(vognar)@esys.cz> says…
Could anybody recommend me a loader, that allow us to boot into QNX4
(par.
type 77) and into Windows 2k or XP (par. type NTFS) on one disk? Loader
QNX4
does not recognize NTFS. Loader QNX6, in our first tested case, boot into
WXP (NTFS) but not into QNX4. In our second tested case, boot into QNX4
but
not into W2k (NTFS). If we have FAT32 instead of NTFS - no problem with
both
loaders (4, 6). Have anybody some experience on this issue?

Tomá¹ VOGNAR



Hi,

Honestly I do not realize what is your problem. Primary boot loader
doesn’t have to recognize NTFS or whatever else filesystem you use.

Yes same for me. I use the QNX loader and it boots QNX4/QNX6 and XP (NTFS)
without problem.

All
what it does it reads very first sector from partition (boot sector) to
memory and passes control to that code. That boot sector is actually
secondary loader that’s supposed to know underlying filesystem and how
to boot particular OS. Every pc1 loader of QNX 6 will do the trick.
Also you can use win2k or winxp native loader, with that exeption that
ntldr uses images of boot sectors rather than read actual boot sectors.
More details are available online:
http://ed1k.qnxclub.net/nt_qnx.html
Everything said there is applicable to QNX4 and win2k/xp with some
obviously changes, like

dd if=/dev/hd0t77 of=/dos-a/bootsect.qnx count=1 bs=512

AFAIR, QNX4 installation always put primary loader to MBR. So, it is
better to install QNX4 first and later win2k. If that order is
impossible you should restore primary loader and active partition.

Eduard
\

Yes same for me. I use the QNX loader and it boots QNX4/QNX6 and XP
(NTFS)
without problem.

on single HDD?

“Tomá¹ Vognar” <(vognar)@esys.cz> wrote in message
news:cfcprt$a6e$1@inn.qnx.com

Yes same for me. I use the QNX loader and it boots QNX4/QNX6 and XP
(NTFS)
without problem.

on single HDD?

Yes, got two machines in from of me setup that way.

Mario Charest <nowheretobefound@8thdimension.com> wrote:

MC > “Tom Vognar” <(vognar)@esys.cz> wrote in message
MC > news:cfcprt$a6e$1@inn.qnx.com

Yes same for me. I use the QNX loader and it boots QNX4/QNX6 and XP
(NTFS)
without problem.

on single HDD?

MC > Yes, got two machines in from of me setup that way.

Ditto. Me too.
Desktop & laptop.

Bill (I hate Windows) Caroselli

In article <cfcprt$a6e$1@inn.qnx.com>, =?iso-8859-2?Q?Tom=E1=B9_Vognar?=
<(vognar)@esys.cz> says…

Yes same for me. I use the QNX loader and it boots QNX4/QNX6 and XP
(NTFS)
without problem.

on single HDD?

Yep. I also have few OSes on a single HDD in a few different places. One
of OSes lives purely in NTFS partition and its loader (ntldr) loads
everything else. Or do you mean single partition and QNX OS living
somewhere inside a .qfs file on that partition?

Tomá¹ Vognar wrote:

Could anybody recommend me a loader, that allow us to boot into QNX4 (par.
type 77) and into Windows 2k or XP (par. type NTFS) on one disk? Loader QNX4
does not recognize NTFS. Loader QNX6, in our first tested case, boot into
WXP (NTFS) but not into QNX4. In our second tested case, boot into QNX4 but
not into W2k (NTFS). If we have FAT32 instead of NTFS - no problem with both
loaders (4, 6). Have anybody some experience on this issue?

Tomá¹ VOGNAR

Hello Toma,
I recommend XOSL as loader to select WXP, WNT or QNX.
It’s freeware.
Download:
http://www.soft-ware.net/system/hardware/festplatte/bootmanager/download.asp?code=cdbci&pro=p02616&js=true&flvers=5&lang=en-us&alt=false&sw=1280&sh=1024&br=IE&vers=6

//Klaus