Installation on NTFS

Hi

I want to install QNX on my Pc but I’m running Win2000 on NTFS as unique
partition.

Somebody already tried it ?

I’ve read that QNX can’t boot on an NTFS.
What’s best to do ?

Can I install all the QNX files on NTFS and boot on a floppy ? QNX or DOS ?

Thanx
Bruno

Hi

I have Windows Me; I had to make a boot floppy to start up Qnx.
Go to where you installed Qnx, in the ‘bin’ folder and start qmakedsk.exe with
argument ‘floppydma.144’

This could work also in Windows 2000, I hope.

Raymond


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Pourquoi pas aussi BeOS?

I’ve read that QNX can’t boot on an NTFS.
What’s best to do ?

All you can do is run it off a FAT partition. QNX doesn’t even have a
read-only driver for NTFS. If you try to boot it w/a disk when the files
are on an NTFS drive, it won’t find anything. I reformatted one of my NTFS
partitions to FAT to get it installed. If you look in the file manager,
only the FAT partition showed up.

-Adam

“Bruno Foechterlen” <bfoechterlen@fr.infogrames.com> writes:

Hi

I want to install QNX on my Pc but I’m running Win2000 on NTFS as unique
partition.

Somebody already tried it ?

I’ve read that QNX can’t boot on an NTFS.
What’s best to do ?

Can I install all the QNX files on NTFS and boot on a floppy ? QNX
or DOS ?

We bought PartitionMagic, resized the NTFS partition to make room for
a QNX partition, and then installed from the CD to the new partition.
We use the QNX boot loader to choose between Win2K and QNX. This
works very well.

Andrew


Andrew Thomas, President, Cogent Real-Time Systems Inc.
2430 Meadowpine Boulevard, Suite 105, Mississauga, Ontario, Canada L5N 6S2
Email: andrew@cogent.ca WWW: http://www.cogent.ca

Thanks to everyone for the answers.
Now things are clear, I will have create a new partition in FAT.

How do you use the QNX boot loader ?
Must the QNX partition be the boot partition ?

Thanx
Bruno

“Andrew Thomas” <andrew@cogent.ca> a écrit dans le message news:
x7aectsetz.fsf@cogent.ca

“Bruno Foechterlen” <> bfoechterlen@fr.infogrames.com> > writes:
Hi

I want to install QNX on my Pc but I’m running Win2000 on NTFS as unique
partition.

Somebody already tried it ?

I’ve read that QNX can’t boot on an NTFS.
What’s best to do ?

Can I install all the QNX files on NTFS and boot on a floppy ? QNX
or DOS ?

We bought PartitionMagic, resized the NTFS partition to make room for
a QNX partition, and then installed from the CD to the new partition.
We use the QNX boot loader to choose between Win2K and QNX. This
works very well.

Andrew


Andrew Thomas, President, Cogent Real-Time Systems Inc.
2430 Meadowpine Boulevard, Suite 105, Mississauga, Ontario, Canada L5N 6S2
Email: > andrew@cogent.ca > WWW: > http://www.cogent.ca

“Bruno Foechterlen” <bfoechterlen@fr.infogrames.com> writes:

Thanks to everyone for the answers.
Now things are clear, I will have create a new partition in FAT.

How do you use the QNX boot loader ?
Must the QNX partition be the boot partition ?

The new partition is not FAT, it is QNX format. You really should
just make space for a partition, but do not actually create the
parition. This will show up in Partition Magic as “available” or
“unformatted” or some such designation. When you boot QRTP from the
CD, it will find the available space and create a partition for
itself, then format it for QNX.

All of your partitions are potentially bootable (with some cylinder
number restrictions). There is an “Active” partition, which is the
default partition to boot. You can set this to any partition. All
other partitions are bootable using the QNX boot loader. It goes like
this:

When you install QRTP onto a partition, it also installs the QNX boot
loader and makes the QRTP parition the default (active) partition.
Let’s say this is partition 2. Your existing Windows installation is
booting, say, from partition 1. When you reboot after installing
QRTP, a little message will pop up saying:
Boot Partition 2
You have 2 or 3 seconds to press the number of the partition you would
prefer to boot. If you want Windows, press the “1” key. The message
will change to
Boot Partition 1
and Windows will boot.

Once you have figured out which operating system you boot more often,
you can change the active partition using either QRTP’s fdisk or
Windows’ fdisk programs. Thereafter, when the “Boot Partition n”
message comes up, it will offer the new active partition, and you will
need to press the appropriate number to get the other OS.

There are only 4 choices for partition numbers, not surprisingly
called 1, 2, 3 and 4. If you are not sure which partition is
associated with which OS, just find out by experimentation. There is
no relationship between cylinder number order and partition number
order.

Andrew


Andrew Thomas, President, Cogent Real-Time Systems Inc.
2430 Meadowpine Boulevard, Suite 105, Mississauga, Ontario, Canada L5N 6S2
Email: andrew@cogent.ca WWW: http://www.cogent.ca

Thank you Andrew, for this very complet answer.

I did install QNX on a QNX partition with the CD.
It works very well ! :slight_smile:

But I don’t have any partition choice with the QNX boot.
It just tell me for a few seconds :
ESC for an alternate system

And when I press ESC, it shows me the boot debug menu.

The only way to boot on QNX or Windows partition is to set it active.

Thanx a lot
Bruno Foechterlen

“Andrew Thomas” <andrew@cogent.ca> a écrit dans le message news:
x766nbl2gg.fsf@cogent.ca

“Bruno Foechterlen” <> bfoechterlen@fr.infogrames.com> > writes:

Thanks to everyone for the answers.
Now things are clear, I will have create a new partition in FAT.

How do you use the QNX boot loader ?
Must the QNX partition be the boot partition ?

The new partition is not FAT, it is QNX format. You really should
just make space for a partition, but do not actually create the
parition. This will show up in Partition Magic as “available” or
“unformatted” or some such designation. When you boot QRTP from the
CD, it will find the available space and create a partition for
itself, then format it for QNX.

All of your partitions are potentially bootable (with some cylinder
number restrictions). There is an “Active” partition, which is the
default partition to boot. You can set this to any partition. All
other partitions are bootable using the QNX boot loader. It goes like
this:

When you install QRTP onto a partition, it also installs the QNX boot
loader and makes the QRTP parition the default (active) partition.
Let’s say this is partition 2. Your existing Windows installation is
booting, say, from partition 1. When you reboot after installing
QRTP, a little message will pop up saying:
Boot Partition 2
You have 2 or 3 seconds to press the number of the partition you would
prefer to boot. If you want Windows, press the “1” key. The message
will change to
Boot Partition 1
and Windows will boot.

Once you have figured out which operating system you boot more often,
you can change the active partition using either QRTP’s fdisk or
Windows’ fdisk programs. Thereafter, when the “Boot Partition n”
message comes up, it will offer the new active partition, and you will
need to press the appropriate number to get the other OS.

There are only 4 choices for partition numbers, not surprisingly
called 1, 2, 3 and 4. If you are not sure which partition is
associated with which OS, just find out by experimentation. There is
no relationship between cylinder number order and partition number
order.

Andrew


Andrew Thomas, President, Cogent Real-Time Systems Inc.
2430 Meadowpine Boulevard, Suite 105, Mississauga, Ontario, Canada L5N 6S2
Email: > andrew@cogent.ca > WWW: > http://www.cogent.ca

“Bruno Foechterlen” <bfoechterlen@fr.infogrames.com> wrote in message
news:970587691.453996@remus.infonie.fr

Thank you Andrew, for this very complet answer.

I did install QNX on a QNX partition with the CD.
It works very well ! > :slight_smile:

But I don’t have any partition choice with the QNX boot.

It doesn’t ask you, you have to press the key 1,2,3 or 4 (partion id)
just before the “ESC for an alternate system”

It just tell me for a few seconds :
ESC for an alternate system

And when I press ESC, it shows me the boot debug menu.

The only way to boot on QNX or Windows partition is to set it active.

Thanx a lot
Bruno Foechterlen

“Andrew Thomas” <> andrew@cogent.ca> > a écrit dans le message news:
x766nbl2gg.fsf@cogent.ca> …
“Bruno Foechterlen” <> bfoechterlen@fr.infogrames.com> > writes:

Thanks to everyone for the answers.
Now things are clear, I will have create a new partition in FAT.

How do you use the QNX boot loader ?
Must the QNX partition be the boot partition ?

The new partition is not FAT, it is QNX format. You really should
just make space for a partition, but do not actually create the
parition. This will show up in Partition Magic as “available” or
“unformatted” or some such designation. When you boot QRTP from the
CD, it will find the available space and create a partition for
itself, then format it for QNX.

All of your partitions are potentially bootable (with some cylinder
number restrictions). There is an “Active” partition, which is the
default partition to boot. You can set this to any partition. All
other partitions are bootable using the QNX boot loader. It goes like
this:

When you install QRTP onto a partition, it also installs the QNX boot
loader and makes the QRTP parition the default (active) partition.
Let’s say this is partition 2. Your existing Windows installation is
booting, say, from partition 1. When you reboot after installing
QRTP, a little message will pop up saying:
Boot Partition 2
You have 2 or 3 seconds to press the number of the partition you would
prefer to boot. If you want Windows, press the “1” key. The message
will change to
Boot Partition 1
and Windows will boot.

Once you have figured out which operating system you boot more often,
you can change the active partition using either QRTP’s fdisk or
Windows’ fdisk programs. Thereafter, when the “Boot Partition n”
message comes up, it will offer the new active partition, and you will
need to press the appropriate number to get the other OS.

There are only 4 choices for partition numbers, not surprisingly
called 1, 2, 3 and 4. If you are not sure which partition is
associated with which OS, just find out by experimentation. There is
no relationship between cylinder number order and partition number
order.

Andrew


Andrew Thomas, President, Cogent Real-Time Systems Inc.
2430 Meadowpine Boulevard, Suite 105, Mississauga, Ontario, Canada L5N
6S2
Email: > andrew@cogent.ca > WWW: > http://www.cogent.ca