Will there ever be support for the VIA® Apollo Pro133 Series Chipset ?
I have 2 Asus P3V4X equipped PCs and I’d really like to use RTP on one
of them.
-thanks
James
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Are you saying it’s not working? I don’t see what chipset
have to do with this, aside HD controler.
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Will there ever be support for the VIA® Apollo Pro133 Series Chipset ?
I have 2 Asus P3V4X equipped PCs and I’d really like to use RTP on one
of them.-thanks
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You are correct, I cannot get QNX RTP to load on any PC equipped with
this chipset.
James
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Can you expand on “cannot get QNX RTP to load”. I’m not 100% sure
about this but I get the feeling the chipset is not to blame.
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have to do with this, aside HD controler.“james bass” <> jhbass@twcny.rr.com.spam> > wrote in message
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Will there ever be support for the VIA® Apollo Pro133 Series Chipset ?
I have 2 Asus P3V4X equipped PCs and I’d really like to use RTP on one
of them.-thanks
James
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You are correct, I cannot get QNX RTP to load on any PC equipped with
this chipset.James
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OK here is what I have done.
Once the boot pocess (initial install) starts I’ll get the error “cannot
find cd” this happens on two different PCs with the identical
motherboards installed but different components. I’ve tried resetting
the BIOS settings to default, no change. Each PC is equipped with an
Adaptec 3940 SCSI card & I’ve tried to install to a SCSI & EIDE drive,
no change. I’ve tried booting from an EIDE CD & SCSI to install to EIDE
, no change. I’ve tried booting from an EIDE/SCSI CD & installing to
SCSI & EIDE, no change. I’ve also tried the same scenario above using a
boot floppy. I’ve also installed it on a PC @ ghosting the hard drive
just before the first boot (where it detects everything) & that scenario
just hangs during the boot process. I’ve burned a couple of different
boot CDs, that last being “Disk at Once” to insure that I had exactly
what was recommended.
Now maybe it just has something to do with the CD error I’m getting but
I’m not sure. So I’ve done everything that I can think of, if you can
offer anything it would be greatly appreciated.
-thanks
James
Can you expand on “cannot get QNX RTP to load”. I’m not 100% sure
about this but I get the feeling the chipset is not to blame.“james bass” <> jhbass@twcny.rr.com.spam> > wrote in message
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says…Are you saying it’s not working? I don’t see what chipset
have to do with this, aside HD controler.“james bass” <> jhbass@twcny.rr.com.spam> > wrote in message
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Will there ever be support for the VIA® Apollo Pro133 Series Chipset ?
I have 2 Asus P3V4X equipped PCs and I’d really like to use RTP on one
of them.-thanks
James
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You are correct, I cannot get QNX RTP to load on any PC equipped with
this chipset.James
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says…OK here is what I have done.
Once the boot pocess (initial install) starts I’ll get the error “cannot
find cd”
Is this all you get? Do you have 4 IDE connectors or 2?
this happens on two different PCs with the identical
motherboards installed but different components. I’ve tried resetting
the BIOS settings to default, no change. Each PC is equipped with an
Adaptec 3940 SCSI cardThis SCSI isn’t supported
& I’ve tried to install to a SCSI & EIDE drive,
no change. I’ve tried booting from an EIDE CD & SCSI to install to EIDE
, no change. I’ve tried booting from an EIDE/SCSI CD & installing to
SCSI & EIDE, no change. I’ve also tried the same scenario above using a
boot floppy. I’ve also installed it on a PC @ ghosting the hard drive
just before the first boot (where it detects everything) & that scenario
just hangs during the boot process. I’ve burned a couple of different
boot CDs, that last being “Disk at Once” to insure that I had exactly
what was recommended.Now maybe it just has something to do with the CD error
I’m getting but
I’m not sure. So I’ve done everything that I can think of, if you can
offer anything it would be greatly appreciated.-thanks
James
Can you expand on “cannot get QNX RTP to load”. I’m not 100% sure
about this but I get the feeling the chipset is not to blame.“james bass” <> jhbass@twcny.rr.com.spam> > wrote in message
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says…Are you saying it’s not working? I don’t see what chipset
have to do with this, aside HD controler.“james bass” <> jhbass@twcny.rr.com.spam> > wrote in message
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Will there ever be support for the VIA® Apollo Pro133 Series
Chipset ?
I have 2 Asus P3V4X equipped PCs and I’d really like to use RTP on
one
of them.-thanks
James
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You are correct, I cannot get QNX RTP to load on any PC equipped with
this chipset.James
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4, I’ve tried on both sides using a 80 pin cable and the standard 40
pin.
I replaced the EIDE DVD-ROM with a EIDE CD-ROM still no dice. I’ve
basically given up. This is/has been far too frustrating to get working.
I’ve RTP installed on my Compaq Deskpro at work & I’ll leave it on there
but I really can’t play with it too much while at work.
James
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In article <9ciktp$cos$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, > mcharest@deletezinformatic.com
says…OK here is what I have done.
Once the boot pocess (initial install) starts I’ll get the error “cannot
find cd”Is this all you get? Do you have 4 IDE connectors or 2?
this happens on two different PCs with the identical
motherboards installed but different components. I’ve tried resetting
the BIOS settings to default, no change. Each PC is equipped with an
Adaptec 3940 SCSI cardThis SCSI isn’t supported
& I’ve tried to install to a SCSI & EIDE drive,
no change. I’ve tried booting from an EIDE CD & SCSI to install to EIDE
, no change. I’ve tried booting from an EIDE/SCSI CD & installing to
SCSI & EIDE, no change. I’ve also tried the same scenario above using a
boot floppy. I’ve also installed it on a PC @ ghosting the hard drive
just before the first boot (where it detects everything) & that scenario
just hangs during the boot process. I’ve burned a couple of different
boot CDs, that last being “Disk at Once” to insure that I had exactly
what was recommended.Now maybe it just has something to do with the CD error
I’m getting but
I’m not sure. So I’ve done everything that I can think of, if you can
offer anything it would be greatly appreciated.-thanks
James
Can you expand on “cannot get QNX RTP to load”. I’m not 100% sure
about this but I get the feeling the chipset is not to blame.“james bass” <> jhbass@twcny.rr.com.spam> > wrote in message
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says…Are you saying it’s not working? I don’t see what chipset
have to do with this, aside HD controler.
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Try it as a slave to the HD.
In article <9cqho9$bse$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, > mcharest@deletezinformatic.com
says…4, I’ve tried on both sides using a 80 pin cable and the standard 40
pin.
I replaced the EIDE DVD-ROM with a EIDE CD-ROM still no dice. I’ve
basically given up. This is/has been far too frustrating to get working.
I’ve RTP installed on my Compaq Deskpro at work & I’ll leave it on there
but I really can’t play with it too much while at work.James
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In article <9ciktp$cos$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, > mcharest@deletezinformatic.com
says…OK here is what I have done.
Once the boot pocess (initial install) starts I’ll get the error “cannot
find cd”Is this all you get? Do you have 4 IDE connectors or 2?
this happens on two different PCs with the identical
motherboards installed but different components. I’ve tried resetting
the BIOS settings to default, no change. Each PC is equipped with an
Adaptec 3940 SCSI cardThis SCSI isn’t supported
& I’ve tried to install to a SCSI & EIDE drive,
no change. I’ve tried booting from an EIDE CD & SCSI to install to EIDE
, no change. I’ve tried booting from an EIDE/SCSI CD & installing to
SCSI & EIDE, no change. I’ve also tried the same scenario above using a
boot floppy. I’ve also installed it on a PC @ ghosting the hard drive
just before the first boot (where it detects everything) & that scenario
just hangs during the boot process. I’ve burned a couple of different
boot CDs, that last being “Disk at Once” to insure that I had exactly
what was recommended.Now maybe it just has something to do with the CD error
I’m getting but
I’m not sure. So I’ve done everything that I can think of, if you can
offer anything it would be greatly appreciated.-thanks
James
Can you expand on “cannot get QNX RTP to load”. I’m not 100% sure
about this but I get the feeling the chipset is not to blame.“james bass” <> jhbass@twcny.rr.com.spam> > wrote in message
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says…Are you saying it’s not working? I don’t see what chipset
have to do with this, aside HD controler.
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OK here is what I have done.
Once the boot pocess (initial install) starts I’ll get the error
“unable to access /cd//boot/fs
make sure that QNX install CD is in your CD-ROM drive”
this happens on two different PCs with the identical motherboards
installed but different components. I’ve tried resetting the BIOS
settings to default, no change. Each PC is equipped with an Adaptec 3940
SCSI card & I’ve tried to install to a SCSI & EIDE drive, no change.
I’ve tried booting from an EIDE CD & SCSI to install to EIDE, no change.
I’ve tried booting from an EIDE/SCSI CD & installing to SCSI & EIDE, no
change. I’ve also tried the same scenario above using a boot floppy.
I’ve also installed it on a PC @ ghosting the hard drive just before the
first boot (where it detects everything) & that scenario just hangs
during the boot process. I’ve burned a couple of different boot CDs,
that last being “Disk at Once” to insure that I had exactly what was
recommended.
I’ve also tried it on both IDE channels using a 80 pin cable and the
standard 40 pin. I replaced the EIDE DVD-ROM with a EIDE CD-ROM still no
dice. I’ve basically given up. This is/has been far too frustrating to
get working. I’ve got RTP installed on my Compaq Deskpro at work & I’ll
leave it on there but I really can’t play with it too much while at
work.
So I’ve done everything that I can think of, if anyone can offer
anything it would be greatly appreciated.
-thanks
James
OK here is what I have done.
Once the boot pocess (initial install) starts I’ll get the error“unable to access /cd//boot/fs
make sure that QNX install CD is in your CD-ROM drive”this happens on two different PCs with the identical motherboards
installed but different components. I’ve tried resetting the BIOS
settings to default, no change. Each PC is equipped with an Adaptec 3940
SCSI card & I’ve tried to install to a SCSI & EIDE drive, no change.
I’ve tried booting from an EIDE CD & SCSI to install to EIDE, no change.
I’ve tried booting from an EIDE/SCSI CD & installing to SCSI & EIDE, no
change. I’ve also tried the same scenario above using a boot floppy.
I’ve also installed it on a PC @ ghosting the hard drive just before the
first boot (where it detects everything) & that scenario just hangs
during the boot process. I’ve burned a couple of different boot CDs,
that last being “Disk at Once” to insure that I had exactly what was
recommended.I’ve also tried it on both IDE channels using a 80 pin cable and the
standard 40 pin. I replaced the EIDE DVD-ROM with a EIDE CD-ROM still no
dice. I’ve basically given up. This is/has been far too frustrating to
get working. I’ve got RTP installed on my Compaq Deskpro at work & I’ll
leave it on there but I really can’t play with it too much while at
work.So I’ve done everything that I can think of, if anyone can offer
anything it would be greatly appreciated.
paul may:
(wow this post turned into a long one, hope it helps)
Hmmm, the one thing you dont mention is trying to use the RTP hardfile
option to see if RTP will run from that machine.
it seems that there might be an error in your cd image and/or your trying to
always use the partion option somewere on your drives, the thing about the
hardfile option is that as long as you can get to a dos prompt you should
be able to at least boot to a hardfile.
things to keep in mind are, you dont really need a real cd reader
just a copy of the RTP.iso, (win)UAE, win9x linux or working RTP hardfile
plus ISO mounting program for above cd image on eather OS.
the default RTP hardrive image you create will auto config on each
and every boot so no need to worry about static config files (in general).
i assume win9x in this case as most of you wont have UAE (and i cant remember
which amiga app i used to mount the image when i did it last time LOL),
plus ill do a walk through not because i assume YOU dont understand
but because the less tec people might also like to try this before
giving up, and once inside RTP they might like it, it might also
give the tec heads some KISS (keep it simple stupid) ways to
mass deploy hardfiles (note i use hardfile due to an amiga background
it might be a case that others non amiga background would use another
term)
right, goto http://www.daemon-tools.com
(http://www.daemon-tools.com/daemon.htm has indepth html manual
last time i looked) and grab the free cd.iso mounting prog daemon
install it on win9x, reboot win9x, right click the little deamon near
the clock, virualcdrom/device/mount image and point it to were you have
the RTP.ISO image and mount it as (probably) d: as your real cd will now
be E:
when you use explorer to open your new d: virtual CD it might try and
autoboot as per a real cd, just cancel that or use windows commander
type (FAR BETTER) file manager (RTP should have something like this,
worker a dopus4 clone works ok on RTP but is an xphoton app and is slower
see ftp at qnxstart, and midnight commander while ok for a shell version
doesnt quite work right on RTP b at least) copy the 26meg hardfile
making version (its the same as the small RTP install so if you already
have that use if you like) somewere on c: and run it, follow the prompts
for eather the standard 600meg hardfile or make it as large as you have
drive space if you like (i`v done a 2 gig on on a fat16 drive that worked)
a hardfile of 600meg is perfect for moving to any dos based machine you
might want to install that hardfile on with enough space left on a
80 minute cdr/cdrw to copy the /program files/qnx dir files too.
you should end up with a modifyed config.sys something like this
[menu]
menuitem=WIN, Windows
menudefault=WIN,3
menuitem=QNX, QNX Realtime Platform (DMA Disabled)
menuitem=RTPDMA, RTP DMA
menucolor=7,0
menuitem=QNXDMA, QNX Realtime Platform
[QNX]
DEVICE=E:\PROGRA~1\QNX\boot\bin\loadqnx.sys E:\PROGRA~1\QNX\boot\fs\qnxbase.ifs
[QNXDMA]
DEVICE=E:\PROGRA~1\QNX\boot\bin\loadqnx.sys E:\PROGRA~1\QNX\boot\fs\qnxbas~1.ifs
[RTPDMA]
DEVICE=E:\PROGRA~1\QNX\boot\bin\loadqnx.sys E:\PROGRA~1\QNX\boot\fs\qnxbas~2.ifs
[WIN]
rem other windows related commands below here
note that my RTP hardfiles are place on my E:\PROGRA~1\QNX partition
yours would probably end up on C:\PROGRA~1\QNX by default.
i run 2 RTP base hardfiles ,3 really as i also have a partition
and weather i use XOSL boot loader (the best free GFX based multi OS
booter, and dead easy to use) or wait until this config.sys runs
i get the option as RTP boots to select eather the hardfiles or the
RTP partition as my boot root drive (ie the one were all the RTP os
looks for its stuff /usr /fs ect).
(how might i stop this btw ?, it gets a bit boring can i set it auto
select and time out to one or the other ?)
so lets assume you can finally boot to this basic RTP hardfile
great, however you also want to install all those nice extra apps
on the RTP.iso image and start porting playing.
easy, RTP will allow you to mount the same iso you mounted with
win9x deamon.
ha forgot the exact name you click and im typeing this on THOR in winUAE so cant check you will find it im sure.
start a shell by clicking the option on the right shelf, and type
mount -t /fs/hd0-dos-3/qnxrtp.iso /fakeCD
/fakeCD could be any name you want to call it (ie a mounted name)
ls /fakecd would then give you a directory listing of the
now mounted iso.
the above assumes that the qnxrtp.iso is on the top directory
of a dos32 formated local drive, i did try mounting it
from inside a fwe subdirs off there without luck, so be ready
to move your iso to a top dir of your dos drive.
i didnt try it but you MIGHT be able to mount a networked iso,
say a remote win9x drive with an iso on it called windows2 and
an address of 192.168.0.9 useing cifs.
rtp is say rtp1 and an address of 192.168.0.1
open a shell and type ping 192.168.0.9 to make sure you can ping
the windows9x (98se in my case) then mount its drive(s) like so
fs-cifs -a -b //windows2:192.168.0.9:/c /allansC user password &
fs-cifs -a -b //windows2:192.168.0.9:/d /allansD user password &
fs-cifs -a -b //windows2:192.168.0.9:/e /allansE user password &
would mount that win9x machines drives on RTP, you might then try
mounting an iso on that machines drives somewere to the fakeCD
on this RTP machine, i assume it would work if a little slow on a
10/100 mbit TCP/IP compared to local 24 speed CD but still useful.
then finally use the repository tool, make a new repository
to point to this fakeCD and install all the tools/apps
(they will all fit on the 600meg hardfile but you will be rather
low on space for compileing 3rd party apps)
right while i`m here heres a few brain stormers for our resident
experts and coders willing to try and help.
i`v asked this one before way back but it might have got lost under
the mass income of new users to this ng.
its in relation to the mount command and making hardfiles and their
like far more versitile in the long run.
right , so whos willing to write a .hdf, .adf, .zip, .lha, .gz Ect mount point for the RTP then ?, so i can read and write to these in any standard app, .hdf and .adf are straight binary copys of amiga floppys and hardfiles as found in winUAE, so those might be a easyer to write a mount point for, the others im sure you
know are compressed in one form or another so could prove
problimatic perhaps ?.
could someone give a walkthrough on how to create a blank 600meg
hardfile from inside RTP, prep it, format it and mount it at say
/fs/hd0-dos-3/blankHF1 ready to copy files to it and boot to
windows, zip it up so i can write it to cdr`s.
as you might guess ,im thinking if a new mount .zip, .lha, .gz option was made, i might be able to mount a RTPhardfile.zip stored anywere i can connect to local or remote networked and read (although writing would be the best option to include if taken in full context) from them, mounting ziped .iso`s even
if the developers could be so kind as to include that.
im currently just interested in a personal POV as im an old hand
Amiga guy and like maximum versitility and options (hence i also
want a useable RTP UDF CDRW FS lol), but i can see that IF it were
possible to get these options it could be VERY useful for comercial
backup and general dayly RTP use, a zip`ed RTP hardfile on a 80 min
UDF CDRW could hold a vast amount of RTP tools/apps for the cost
of 1 single CDRW , thats got to be worth large/major saveings to a
3rd party OEM in less overall hardware/storage costs per unit.
one last request please, iv recently aquired a netbooting 3com 3c905cx-txm and while ill need to wait a little until
^
the new fixed RTP driver goes through R&D before i get it, it would be
very interesting to get an idea or full walkthrough of how i/anyone
might setup this card to netboot a remote standard RTP hardfile.
i`v just the other day worked out how to make a dos tiny tcp/ip net floppy
on 192.168.0.9 that can now see my 192.168.0.1 shared win98se drives and
read/write them too.
this could be a very nice way to copy those RTP hardfiles
and config.sys to any new blank wintel machines you might want to use,
an RTP net floppy that can be raw copyed (or winimage5ed better) would be best but i dont know how to make them and/or access remote RTP hds yet, and how would i pass / (boot drive) from one
/ boot drive (floppy in this case) to a newly mounted / drive ?
in amiga dos i can simply
assign sys: to:were-i-want-new-root-drive-to-be/
(sys: being the equiv of / (bootdrive) )
the thing is i dont know that much about (non amiga) net booting and
the docs i`v found so far all relate to some arcane convolted expensive
windows/netware combination.
(amiga was dead easy, mount a tcp/ip, serial, parallel, floppy, whatever
net/machine/drive, assign sys: net:machine/drive/directory/
slap a small default set of dirs and files in that location and execute
its s:startup-sequence script.)
something about net Bootp tcp(d) and something else i cant remember right now
keeps ringing bells but i dont get it yet,
so please, anyone care to enlighten me and other interested readers
that might like to try booting a hardfile from a standard remote RTP
machine (say an AMD 500/ 128 meg/1gig hd/) with eather a netboot rom
as per my 3com card or a dos tcp/ip net or RTP floppy ?.
Paul May, Manchester, UK