QNX RTP or QNX 6 ??

Is the freely downloadable QNX RTP the same thing as QNX 6?

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Yes. Except it’s now 6.1.

“Mayakovski” <dr_mayakovski@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Is the freely downloadable QNX RTP the same thing as QNX 6?

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Previously, Mayakovski wrote in comp.os.qnx:

Is the freely downloadable QNX RTP the same thing as QNX 6?

Well technically no, but for your purposes yes. RTP is the
desktop/development environment that you get when you download
the free stuff. QNX 6 refers to the whole product which includes
support for processors other than x86.

Mitchell Schoenbrun --------- maschoen@pobox.com

And where does Neutrino fit into the name game?

“Mitchell Schoenbrun” <maschoen@pobox.com> wrote in message
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Previously, Mayakovski wrote in comp.os.qnx:
Is the freely downloadable QNX RTP the same thing as QNX 6?

Well technically no, but for your purposes yes. RTP is the
desktop/development environment that you get when you download
the free stuff. QNX 6 refers to the whole product which includes
support for processors other than x86.

Mitchell Schoenbrun --------- > maschoen@pobox.com

Previously, Brown, Richard wrote in comp.os.qnx:

And where does Neutrino fit into the name game?

Originally “Neutrino” was the only name for this product
that we knew of. Neutrino 1.0, then 1.1 and finally 2.0.
Early releases of the product were targeted to deeply
embedded customers, and there was no real desktop, or GUI.
It wasn’t self hosting either though you could configure it
to come up with a shell. I think in an act of rewriting
history, QSSL is now telling us that “Neutrino” was the name
of the kernel. Thus the name is still useful. You could
license “Neutrino”, just the kernel, but the OS kernel +
support utilities is called QNX 6.+.

While we seem to expend a lot of time explaining this,
I’m not sure the name differentiation has added anything to
the product, marketing wise or other. It might have been
easier to just call the whole thing QNX 6 from the start and
when advertising the “free download for non-commercial use”
product explain that it comes with x86 only, a fact that is
rumored to change anyway.



Mitchell Schoenbrun --------- maschoen@pobox.com

Mitchell,

the 6.1 free download does come with all platforms (PPC, MIPS, SH, ARM).
Only x86 is self-hosted at the moment, but you can cross-compile for all of
them.

There is no technical differense between RTP and 6.1, RTP is just a
marketing term. There will be some components though which won’t be
available for free, for example the instrumented kernel and
high-availability framework. I guess they will be simply sold separately.

  • igor

“Mitchell Schoenbrun” <maschoen@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:Voyager.010707101111.198B@schoenbrun.com

Previously, Brown, Richard wrote in comp.os.qnx:

And where does Neutrino fit into the name game?

Originally “Neutrino” was the only name for this product
that we knew of. Neutrino 1.0, then 1.1 and finally 2.0.
Early releases of the product were targeted to deeply
embedded customers, and there was no real desktop, or GUI.
It wasn’t self hosting either though you could configure it
to come up with a shell. I think in an act of rewriting
history, QSSL is now telling us that “Neutrino” was the name
of the kernel. Thus the name is still useful. You could
license “Neutrino”, just the kernel, but the OS kernel +
support utilities is called QNX 6.+.

While we seem to expend a lot of time explaining this,
I’m not sure the name differentiation has added anything to
the product, marketing wise or other. It might have been
easier to just call the whole thing QNX 6 from the start and
when advertising the “free download for non-commercial use”
product explain that it comes with x86 only, a fact that is
rumored to change anyway.



Mitchell Schoenbrun --------- > maschoen@pobox.com

Previously, Igor Kovalenko wrote in comp.os.qnx:

There is no technical differense between RTP and 6.1, RTP is just a
marketing term. There will be some components though which won’t be
available for free, for example the instrumented kernel and
high-availability framework. I guess they will be simply sold separately.

What is the “instrumented kernel” and the “high-availablility framework”?
Inquiring minds want to know. :slight_smile:.



Mitchell Schoenbrun --------- maschoen@pobox.com

“Mitchell Schoenbrun” <maschoen@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:Voyager.010707131153.204C@schoenbrun.com

Previously, Igor Kovalenko wrote in comp.os.qnx:

There is no technical differense between RTP and 6.1, RTP is just a
marketing term. There will be some components though which won’t be
available for free, for example the instrumented kernel and
high-availability framework. I guess they will be simply sold
separately.

What is the “instrumented kernel” and the “high-availablility framework”?

Instrumented kernel is one that allows you do monitor everything that is
happening in the kernel, just like you could under QNX4 with
monitor/deja-view.

Inquiring minds want to know. > :slight_smile:> .

High-availability that I don’t know.

Mitchell Schoenbrun --------- > maschoen@pobox.com

Previously, Mario Charest wrote in comp.os.qnx:

Instrumented kernel is one that allows you do monitor everything that is
happening in the kernel, just like you could under QNX4 with
monitor/deja-view.

Do you know if that mean that the patent issue over deja-view is over?

Mitchell

Mitchell Schoenbrun --------- maschoen@pobox.com

“Mitchell Schoenbrun” <maschoen@pobox.com> wrote in message
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Previously, Mario Charest wrote in comp.os.qnx:

Instrumented kernel is one that allows you do monitor everything that is
happening in the kernel, just like you could under QNX4 with
monitor/deja-view.

Do you know if that mean that the patent issue over deja-view is over?

The patent is said to be un-enforseable, so it is kinda over.

  • igor

Mitchell Schoenbrun <maschoen@pobox.com> wrote:

Previously, Igor Kovalenko wrote in comp.os.qnx:

There is no technical differense between RTP and 6.1, RTP is just a
marketing term. There will be some components though which won’t be
available for free, for example the instrumented kernel and
high-availability framework. I guess they will be simply sold separately.

What is the “instrumented kernel” and the “high-availablility framework”?
Inquiring minds want to know. > :slight_smile:> .

The High Availability Manager (HAM) is designed to provide a mechanism for
monitoring processes and services on the system. The goal is to provide a
resilient manager (watchdog) process, which is able to perform multi-stage
recovery when system services and/or processes fail or don’t respond.

Barry

Mitchell Schoenbrun --------- maschoen@pobox.com

Previously, Operating System for Tech Supp wrote in comp.os.qnx:

What is the “instrumented kernel” and the “high-availablility framework”?
Inquiring minds want to know. > :slight_smile:> .

The High Availability Manager (HAM) is designed to provide a mechanism for
monitoring processes and services on the system. The goal is to provide a
resilient manager (watchdog) process, which is able to perform multi-stage
recovery when system services and/or processes fail or don’t respond.

Does the DAP program license include either of these two items? If not,
when will we know the pricing?

Thx,

Mitchell Schoenbrun --------- maschoen@pobox.com