Bootloader on 20gig drive.

I am having major problems booting QNX4 on my laptop.

I have three partitions

1 QNX4.25A - hd0t77 - This is in the first 1.5 gig of the drive and I can
boot from a floppy, mount the drive and see the installation no problem.

3 Extended DOS partition hd0t12 FAT drive. This is in the last 3.5gig of
the drive. I can see it as drive D in windows 98 and can mount it using
Dosfsys when I try to write to it says the drive is full.

4 Primary Win98 hd0t15 boots from the QNX bootloader no problem.

I have tried several times to rewrite the secondary boot loader but with
no change.

I thought it may have been that I needed patch E and as it had fatfsys i
tried to mount the extended FAT partition to mount it.

I have loaded QNX RTP and tried to use that to copy the patch to the QNX 4
partition. RTP mounts the partitions but I cannot write to the hd0t77. I
can read it but it says its full when I try to copy to it.

How do I get the patch from my FAT32/FAT extended partition to the QNX
partition and then how to I get the QNX partition to boot.

I cannot change the drive translation in bios because its a Toshiba laptop
and I dont have the option so I stuck with >1024 cylinders.

Paul

Hi Paul,

If the QNX partition crosses 1024 cylinders it will not boot, it must start
and end before this limit.

Try booting with a QNX 4 boot disk and set the root directory to be the primary
partition (on hard disk) using the prefix command.

ex: /hd0/bin/prefix -R /=/hd0

Now try installing the Patch.

Dosfsys will only work with FAT16 partitions, you will need to use Fatfsys to
access a FAT32 partition.

Regards,

Joe


Paul McCormack <mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> wrote:

I am having major problems booting QNX4 on my laptop.

I have three partitions

1 QNX4.25A - hd0t77 - This is in the first 1.5 gig of the drive and I can
boot from a floppy, mount the drive and see the installation no problem.

3 Extended DOS partition hd0t12 FAT drive. This is in the last 3.5gig of
the drive. I can see it as drive D in windows 98 and can mount it using
Dosfsys when I try to write to it says the drive is full.

4 Primary Win98 hd0t15 boots from the QNX bootloader no problem.

I have tried several times to rewrite the secondary boot loader but with
no change.

I thought it may have been that I needed patch E and as it had fatfsys i
tried to mount the extended FAT partition to mount it.

I have loaded QNX RTP and tried to use that to copy the patch to the QNX 4
partition. RTP mounts the partitions but I cannot write to the hd0t77. I
can read it but it says its full when I try to copy to it.

How do I get the patch from my FAT32/FAT extended partition to the QNX
partition and then how to I get the QNX partition to boot.

I cannot change the drive translation in bios because its a Toshiba laptop
and I dont have the option so I stuck with >1024 cylinders.

Paul

Hi Joe

In article <9g52sc$sde$1@nntp.qnx.com>, hw@qnx.com (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

If the QNX partition crosses 1024 cylinders it will not boot, it must
start
and end before this limit.

The QNX Partition does not cross the 1024 cylinder limit

Try booting with a QNX 4 boot disk and set the root directory to be the
primary
partition (on hard disk) using the prefix command.

ex: /hd0/bin/prefix -R /=/hd0

Now try installing the Patch.

Done I even have photon running which was a surprise as the trident
chipset does not appear to be supported by Photon 2.

Dosfsys will only work with FAT16 partitions, you will need to use
Fatfsys to
access a FAT32 partition.

I also got this working but only to a few directories deep. I really need
to concentrate on it but I more concerned with not being able to boot.

Regards,

Joe

Thanks for getting back to me.

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
I am having major problems booting QNX4 on my laptop.

I have three partitions

1 QNX4.25A - hd0t77 - This is in the first 1.5 gig of the drive and I
can boot from a floppy, mount the drive and see the installation no
problem.

3 Extended DOS partition hd0t12 FAT drive. This is in the last 3.5gig
of the drive. I can see it as drive D in windows 98 and can mount it
using Dosfsys when I try to write to it says the drive is full.

4 Primary Win98 hd0t15 boots from the QNX bootloader no problem.

I have tried several times to rewrite the secondary boot loader but
with no change.

I thought it may have been that I needed patch E and as it had
fatfsys i tried to mount the extended FAT partition to mount it.

I have loaded QNX RTP and tried to use that to copy the patch to the
QNX 4 partition. RTP mounts the partitions but I cannot write to the
hd0t77. I can read it but it says its full when I try to copy to it.

How do I get the patch from my FAT32/FAT extended partition to the
QNX partition and then how to I get the QNX partition to boot.

I cannot change the drive translation in bios because its a Toshiba
laptop and I dont have the option so I stuck with >1024 cylinders.

Paul

Hi Paul,

What happens when you try to boot into QNX 4?
Any error msgs?

Run ‘fdisk /dev/hd0’ and verify that the QNX partition is set as bootable.
The Boot column should have a ‘*’ in the QNX 4 row (type 77).

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> wrote:

Hi Joe

In article <9g52sc$sde$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

If the QNX partition crosses 1024 cylinders it will not boot, it must
start
and end before this limit.

The QNX Partition does not cross the 1024 cylinder limit


Try booting with a QNX 4 boot disk and set the root directory to be the
primary
partition (on hard disk) using the prefix command.

ex: /hd0/bin/prefix -R /=/hd0

Now try installing the Patch.

Done I even have photon running which was a surprise as the trident
chipset does not appear to be supported by Photon 2.


Dosfsys will only work with FAT16 partitions, you will need to use
Fatfsys to
access a FAT32 partition.

I also got this working but only to a few directories deep. I really need
to concentrate on it but I more concerned with not being able to boot.


Regards,

Joe

Thanks for getting back to me.



Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
I am having major problems booting QNX4 on my laptop.

I have three partitions

1 QNX4.25A - hd0t77 - This is in the first 1.5 gig of the drive and I
can boot from a floppy, mount the drive and see the installation no
problem.

3 Extended DOS partition hd0t12 FAT drive. This is in the last 3.5gig
of the drive. I can see it as drive D in windows 98 and can mount it
using Dosfsys when I try to write to it says the drive is full.

4 Primary Win98 hd0t15 boots from the QNX bootloader no problem.

I have tried several times to rewrite the secondary boot loader but
with no change.

I thought it may have been that I needed patch E and as it had
fatfsys i tried to mount the extended FAT partition to mount it.

I have loaded QNX RTP and tried to use that to copy the patch to the
QNX 4 partition. RTP mounts the partitions but I cannot write to the
hd0t77. I can read it but it says its full when I try to copy to it.

How do I get the patch from my FAT32/FAT extended partition to the
QNX partition and then how to I get the QNX partition to boot.

I cannot change the drive translation in bios because its a Toshiba
laptop and I dont have the option so I stuck with >1024 cylinders.

Paul

“Hardware Support Account” <hw@qnx.com> wrote in message
news:9g5dpk$5cu$1@nntp.qnx.com

Hi Paul,

What happens when you try to boot into QNX 4?
Any error msgs?

Run ‘fdisk /dev/hd0’ and verify that the QNX partition is set as bootable.
The Boot column should have a ‘*’ in the QNX 4 row (type 77).

And try copying the .boot file from the floppy to the QNX4 partition.

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Hi Joe

In article <9g52sc$sde$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

If the QNX partition crosses 1024 cylinders it will not boot, it must
start
and end before this limit.

The QNX Partition does not cross the 1024 cylinder limit


Try booting with a QNX 4 boot disk and set the root directory to be the
primary
partition (on hard disk) using the prefix command.

ex: /hd0/bin/prefix -R /=/hd0

Now try installing the Patch.

Done I even have photon running which was a surprise as the trident
chipset does not appear to be supported by Photon 2.


Dosfsys will only work with FAT16 partitions, you will need to use
Fatfsys to
access a FAT32 partition.

I also got this working but only to a few directories deep. I really
need
to concentrate on it but I more concerned with not being able to boot.


Regards,

Joe

Thanks for getting back to me.



Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
I am having major problems booting QNX4 on my laptop.

I have three partitions

1 QNX4.25A - hd0t77 - This is in the first 1.5 gig of the drive and I
can boot from a floppy, mount the drive and see the installation no
problem.

3 Extended DOS partition hd0t12 FAT drive. This is in the last 3.5gig
of the drive. I can see it as drive D in windows 98 and can mount it
using Dosfsys when I try to write to it says the drive is full.

4 Primary Win98 hd0t15 boots from the QNX bootloader no problem.

I have tried several times to rewrite the secondary boot loader but
with no change.

I thought it may have been that I needed patch E and as it had
fatfsys i tried to mount the extended FAT partition to mount it.

I have loaded QNX RTP and tried to use that to copy the patch to the
QNX 4 partition. RTP mounts the partitions but I cannot write to the
hd0t77. I can read it but it says its full when I try to copy to it.

How do I get the patch from my FAT32/FAT extended partition to the
QNX partition and then how to I get the QNX partition to boot.

I cannot change the drive translation in bios because its a Toshiba
laptop and I dont have the option so I stuck with >1024 cylinders.

Paul

In article <9g5dpk$5cu$1@nntp.qnx.com>, hw@qnx.com (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

What happens when you try to boot into QNX 4?
Any error msgs?

No. It just sits at the press escape prompt with two dots at the end and
the hard drive light stays on.

Run ‘fdisk /dev/hd0’ and verify that the QNX partition is set as
bootable.
The Boot column should have a ‘*’ in the QNX 4 row (type 77).

Done. I also tried dinit -hb /dev/hd0t77 and fdisk /dev/hd0 loader boot
qnx


Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Hi Joe

In article <9g52sc$sde$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

If the QNX partition crosses 1024 cylinders it will not boot, it
must >start
and end before this limit.

The QNX Partition does not cross the 1024 cylinder limit


Try booting with a QNX 4 boot disk and set the root directory to be
the >primary
partition (on hard disk) using the prefix command.

ex: /hd0/bin/prefix -R /=/hd0

Now try installing the Patch.

Done I even have photon running which was a surprise as the trident
chipset does not appear to be supported by Photon 2.


Dosfsys will only work with FAT16 partitions, you will need to use
Fatfsys to
access a FAT32 partition.

I also got this working but only to a few directories deep. I really
need to concentrate on it but I more concerned with not being able to
boot.


Regards,

Joe

Thanks for getting back to me.



Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
I am having major problems booting QNX4 on my laptop.

I have three partitions

1 QNX4.25A - hd0t77 - This is in the first 1.5 gig of the drive
and I >can boot from a floppy, mount the drive and see the
installation no >problem.

3 Extended DOS partition hd0t12 FAT drive. This is in the last
3.5gig >of the drive. I can see it as drive D in windows 98 and can
mount it >using Dosfsys when I try to write to it says the drive is
full.

4 Primary Win98 hd0t15 boots from the QNX bootloader no problem.

I have tried several times to rewrite the secondary boot loader
but >with no change.

I thought it may have been that I needed patch E and as it had
fatfsys i tried to mount the extended FAT partition to mount it.

I have loaded QNX RTP and tried to use that to copy the patch to
the >QNX 4 partition. RTP mounts the partitions but I cannot write
to the >hd0t77. I can read it but it says its full when I try to
copy to it.

How do I get the patch from my FAT32/FAT extended partition to the
QNX partition and then how to I get the QNX partition to boot.

I cannot change the drive translation in bios because its a
Toshiba >laptop and I dont have the option so I stuck with >1024
cylinders.

Paul

In article <9g5jvu$d03$1@inn.qnx.com>, mcharest@zinformatic.com (Mario
Charest) wrote:

“Hardware Support Account” <> hw@qnx.com> > wrote in message
news:9g5dpk$5cu$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> …
Hi Paul,

What happens when you try to boot into QNX 4?
Any error msgs?

Run ‘fdisk /dev/hd0’ and verify that the QNX partition is set as
bootable.
The Boot column should have a ‘*’ in the QNX 4 row (type 77).

And try copying the .boot file from the floppy to the QNX4 partition.

Will try this. I have rebuilt the system after the patch and realised that
I may still be using the old .boot. I didnt think it was getting this far.

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Hi Joe

In article <9g52sc$sde$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

If the QNX partition crosses 1024 cylinders it will not boot, it
must
start
and end before this limit.

The QNX Partition does not cross the 1024 cylinder limit


Try booting with a QNX 4 boot disk and set the root directory to
be the
primary
partition (on hard disk) using the prefix command.

ex: /hd0/bin/prefix -R /=/hd0

Now try installing the Patch.

Done I even have photon running which was a surprise as the trident
chipset does not appear to be supported by Photon 2.


Dosfsys will only work with FAT16 partitions, you will need to use
Fatfsys to
access a FAT32 partition.

I also got this working but only to a few directories deep. I really
need
to concentrate on it but I more concerned with not being able to
boot.


Regards,

Joe

Thanks for getting back to me.



Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
I am having major problems booting QNX4 on my laptop.

I have three partitions

1 QNX4.25A - hd0t77 - This is in the first 1.5 gig of the drive
and I
can boot from a floppy, mount the drive and see the installation
no
problem.

3 Extended DOS partition hd0t12 FAT drive. This is in the last
3.5gig
of the drive. I can see it as drive D in windows 98 and can
mount it
using Dosfsys when I try to write to it says the drive is full.

4 Primary Win98 hd0t15 boots from the QNX bootloader no problem.

I have tried several times to rewrite the secondary boot loader
but
with no change.

I thought it may have been that I needed patch E and as it had
fatfsys i tried to mount the extended FAT partition to mount it.

I have loaded QNX RTP and tried to use that to copy the patch to
the
QNX 4 partition. RTP mounts the partitions but I cannot write to
the
hd0t77. I can read it but it says its full when I try to copy to
it.

How do I get the patch from my FAT32/FAT extended partition to
the
QNX partition and then how to I get the QNX partition to boot.

I cannot change the drive translation in bios because its a
Toshiba
laptop and I dont have the option so I stuck with >1024
cylinders.

Paul

\

Joe

It made no difference I am afraid.

exactly the same message.

Paul

In article <9g7rj3$k6b$1@nntp.qnx.com>, hw@qnx.com (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Try the following:

  1. Goto the /boot/build directory and verify that there is an file
    called hard.ata (or hard.ata.#)

  2. Go back one directory level (cd …)

  3. Enter the following commands
    make b=hard.ata d=Fsys.eide h=/dev/hd0 t=77
    cp -t images/hard.ata /.boot

  4. Re-boot system and see what happens

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
In article <9g5dpk$5cu$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

What happens when you try to boot into QNX 4?
Any error msgs?

No. It just sits at the press escape prompt with two dots at the end
and the hard drive light stays on.


Run ‘fdisk /dev/hd0’ and verify that the QNX partition is set as
bootable.
The Boot column should have a ‘*’ in the QNX 4 row (type 77).

Done. I also tried dinit -hb /dev/hd0t77 and fdisk /dev/hd0 loader
boot qnx



Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Hi Joe

In article <9g52sc$sde$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support >Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

If the QNX partition crosses 1024 cylinders it will not boot, it
must >start
and end before this limit.

The QNX Partition does not cross the 1024 cylinder limit


Try booting with a QNX 4 boot disk and set the root directory to
be >the >primary
partition (on hard disk) using the prefix command.

ex: /hd0/bin/prefix -R /=/hd0

Now try installing the Patch.

Done I even have photon running which was a surprise as the
trident >chipset does not appear to be supported by Photon 2.


Dosfsys will only work with FAT16 partitions, you will need to
use >>> Fatfsys to
access a FAT32 partition.

I also got this working but only to a few directories deep. I
really >need to concentrate on it but I more concerned with not
being able to >boot.


Regards,

Joe

Thanks for getting back to me.



Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
I am having major problems booting QNX4 on my laptop.

I have three partitions

1 QNX4.25A - hd0t77 - This is in the first 1.5 gig of the drive
and I >can boot from a floppy, mount the drive and see the
installation no >problem.

3 Extended DOS partition hd0t12 FAT drive. This is in the last
3.5gig >of the drive. I can see it as drive D in windows 98 and
can >mount it >using Dosfsys when I try to write to it says the
drive is >full.

4 Primary Win98 hd0t15 boots from the QNX bootloader no problem.

I have tried several times to rewrite the secondary boot loader
but >with no change.

I thought it may have been that I needed patch E and as it had
fatfsys i tried to mount the extended FAT partition to mount it.

I have loaded QNX RTP and tried to use that to copy the patch
to >the >QNX 4 partition. RTP mounts the partitions but I cannot
write >to the >hd0t77. I can read it but it says its full when I
try to >copy to it.

How do I get the patch from my FAT32/FAT extended partition to
the >>> > QNX partition and then how to I get the QNX partition
to boot.

I cannot change the drive translation in bios because its a
Toshiba >laptop and I dont have the option so I stuck with >1024
cylinders.

Paul

\

Hi Paul,

Try the following:

  1. Goto the /boot/build directory and verify that there is an file called hard.ata (or hard.ata.#)

  2. Go back one directory level (cd …)

  3. Enter the following commands
    make b=hard.ata d=Fsys.eide h=/dev/hd0 t=77
    cp -t images/hard.ata /.boot

  4. Re-boot system and see what happens

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> wrote:

In article <9g5dpk$5cu$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

What happens when you try to boot into QNX 4?
Any error msgs?

No. It just sits at the press escape prompt with two dots at the end and
the hard drive light stays on.


Run ‘fdisk /dev/hd0’ and verify that the QNX partition is set as
bootable.
The Boot column should have a ‘*’ in the QNX 4 row (type 77).

Done. I also tried dinit -hb /dev/hd0t77 and fdisk /dev/hd0 loader boot
qnx



Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Hi Joe

In article <9g52sc$sde$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

If the QNX partition crosses 1024 cylinders it will not boot, it
must >start
and end before this limit.

The QNX Partition does not cross the 1024 cylinder limit


Try booting with a QNX 4 boot disk and set the root directory to be
the >primary
partition (on hard disk) using the prefix command.

ex: /hd0/bin/prefix -R /=/hd0

Now try installing the Patch.

Done I even have photon running which was a surprise as the trident
chipset does not appear to be supported by Photon 2.


Dosfsys will only work with FAT16 partitions, you will need to use
Fatfsys to
access a FAT32 partition.

I also got this working but only to a few directories deep. I really
need to concentrate on it but I more concerned with not being able to
boot.


Regards,

Joe

Thanks for getting back to me.



Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
I am having major problems booting QNX4 on my laptop.

I have three partitions

1 QNX4.25A - hd0t77 - This is in the first 1.5 gig of the drive
and I >can boot from a floppy, mount the drive and see the
installation no >problem.

3 Extended DOS partition hd0t12 FAT drive. This is in the last
3.5gig >of the drive. I can see it as drive D in windows 98 and can
mount it >using Dosfsys when I try to write to it says the drive is
full.

4 Primary Win98 hd0t15 boots from the QNX bootloader no problem.

I have tried several times to rewrite the secondary boot loader
but >with no change.

I thought it may have been that I needed patch E and as it had
fatfsys i tried to mount the extended FAT partition to mount it.

I have loaded QNX RTP and tried to use that to copy the patch to
the >QNX 4 partition. RTP mounts the partitions but I cannot write
to the >hd0t77. I can read it but it says its full when I try to
copy to it.

How do I get the patch from my FAT32/FAT extended partition to the
QNX partition and then how to I get the QNX partition to boot.

I cannot change the drive translation in bios because its a
Toshiba >laptop and I dont have the option so I stuck with >1024
cylinders.

Paul

Joe

I did that and no change.

The laptop is a Toshiba Sat pro 4600 pentium 3 trident video and IBM
20gig hard drive. Well as reported by Fsys.eide anyway.

it just appears to stick and the disk access stays on.

Paul

In article <9g8b22$gh$1@nntp.qnx.com>, hw@qnx.com (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Try editng the hard.ata build file to use the Fsys.eide driver.
Also in the sysinit, add the following:
‘set -v’

This will cause the sysinit to be verbos so we can see if it gets that
far.
What kind of labtop & Hard drive do you have?

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Joe

It made no difference I am afraid.

exactly the same message.

Paul

In article <9g7rj3$k6b$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Try the following:

  1. Goto the /boot/build directory and verify that there is an file
    called hard.ata (or hard.ata.#)

  2. Go back one directory level (cd …)

  3. Enter the following commands
    make b=hard.ata d=Fsys.eide h=/dev/hd0 t=77
    cp -t images/hard.ata /.boot

  4. Re-boot system and see what happens

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
In article <9g5dpk$5cu$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support >Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

What happens when you try to boot into QNX 4?
Any error msgs?

No. It just sits at the press escape prompt with two dots at the
end >and the hard drive light stays on.


Run ‘fdisk /dev/hd0’ and verify that the QNX partition is set as
bootable.
The Boot column should have a ‘*’ in the QNX 4 row (type 77).

Done. I also tried dinit -hb /dev/hd0t77 and fdisk /dev/hd0 loader
boot qnx



Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Hi Joe

In article <9g52sc$sde$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support >Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

If the QNX partition crosses 1024 cylinders it will not boot,
it >>> > must >start
and end before this limit.

The QNX Partition does not cross the 1024 cylinder limit


Try booting with a QNX 4 boot disk and set the root directory
to >be >the >primary
partition (on hard disk) using the prefix command.

ex: /hd0/bin/prefix -R /=/hd0

Now try installing the Patch.

Done I even have photon running which was a surprise as the
trident >chipset does not appear to be supported by Photon 2.


Dosfsys will only work with FAT16 partitions, you will need to
use >>> Fatfsys to
access a FAT32 partition.

I also got this working but only to a few directories deep. I
really >need to concentrate on it but I more concerned with not
being able to >boot.


Regards,

Joe

Thanks for getting back to me.



Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
I am having major problems booting QNX4 on my laptop.

I have three partitions

1 QNX4.25A - hd0t77 - This is in the first 1.5 gig of the
drive >>> > > and I >can boot from a floppy, mount the drive
and see the >>> > > installation no >problem.

3 Extended DOS partition hd0t12 FAT drive. This is in the
last >>> > > 3.5gig >of the drive. I can see it as drive D in
windows 98 and >can >mount it >using Dosfsys when I try to
write to it says the >drive is >full.

4 Primary Win98 hd0t15 boots from the QNX bootloader no
problem.

I have tried several times to rewrite the secondary boot
loader >>> > > but >with no change.

I thought it may have been that I needed patch E and as it
had >>> >> > fatfsys i tried to mount the extended FAT
partition to mount it.

I have loaded QNX RTP and tried to use that to copy the
patch >to >the >QNX 4 partition. RTP mounts the partitions but
I cannot >write >to the >hd0t77. I can read it but it says its
full when I >try to >copy to it.

How do I get the patch from my FAT32/FAT extended partition
to >the >>> > QNX partition and then how to I get the QNX
partition >to boot.

I cannot change the drive translation in bios because its a
Toshiba >laptop and I dont have the option so I stuck with
1024 >>> > > cylinders.

Paul



\

Hi Paul,

Try editng the hard.ata build file to use the Fsys.eide driver.
Also in the sysinit, add the following:
‘set -v’

This will cause the sysinit to be verbos so we can see if it gets that far.
What kind of labtop & Hard drive do you have?

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> wrote:

Joe

It made no difference I am afraid.

exactly the same message.

Paul

In article <9g7rj3$k6b$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Try the following:

  1. Goto the /boot/build directory and verify that there is an file
    called hard.ata (or hard.ata.#)

  2. Go back one directory level (cd …)

  3. Enter the following commands
    make b=hard.ata d=Fsys.eide h=/dev/hd0 t=77
    cp -t images/hard.ata /.boot

  4. Re-boot system and see what happens

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
In article <9g5dpk$5cu$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

What happens when you try to boot into QNX 4?
Any error msgs?

No. It just sits at the press escape prompt with two dots at the end
and the hard drive light stays on.


Run ‘fdisk /dev/hd0’ and verify that the QNX partition is set as
bootable.
The Boot column should have a ‘*’ in the QNX 4 row (type 77).

Done. I also tried dinit -hb /dev/hd0t77 and fdisk /dev/hd0 loader
boot qnx



Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Hi Joe

In article <9g52sc$sde$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support >Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

If the QNX partition crosses 1024 cylinders it will not boot, it
must >start
and end before this limit.

The QNX Partition does not cross the 1024 cylinder limit


Try booting with a QNX 4 boot disk and set the root directory to
be >the >primary
partition (on hard disk) using the prefix command.

ex: /hd0/bin/prefix -R /=/hd0

Now try installing the Patch.

Done I even have photon running which was a surprise as the
trident >chipset does not appear to be supported by Photon 2.


Dosfsys will only work with FAT16 partitions, you will need to
use >>> Fatfsys to
access a FAT32 partition.

I also got this working but only to a few directories deep. I
really >need to concentrate on it but I more concerned with not
being able to >boot.


Regards,

Joe

Thanks for getting back to me.



Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
I am having major problems booting QNX4 on my laptop.

I have three partitions

1 QNX4.25A - hd0t77 - This is in the first 1.5 gig of the drive
and I >can boot from a floppy, mount the drive and see the
installation no >problem.

3 Extended DOS partition hd0t12 FAT drive. This is in the last
3.5gig >of the drive. I can see it as drive D in windows 98 and
can >mount it >using Dosfsys when I try to write to it says the
drive is >full.

4 Primary Win98 hd0t15 boots from the QNX bootloader no problem.

I have tried several times to rewrite the secondary boot loader
but >with no change.

I thought it may have been that I needed patch E and as it had
fatfsys i tried to mount the extended FAT partition to mount it.

I have loaded QNX RTP and tried to use that to copy the patch
to >the >QNX 4 partition. RTP mounts the partitions but I cannot
write >to the >hd0t77. I can read it but it says its full when I
try to >copy to it.

How do I get the patch from my FAT32/FAT extended partition to
the >>> > QNX partition and then how to I get the QNX partition
to boot.

I cannot change the drive translation in bios because its a
Toshiba >laptop and I dont have the option so I stuck with >1024
cylinders.

Paul

\

Any more suggestions Joe

This is very inconvenient.

I have access to another node and am going to try and compare the two boot
sectors on each to see if I can find anything obvious.

Paul

In article <memo.20010613170518.63177A@mislimited.compulink.co.uk>,
mccormp@mislimited.co.uk (Paul McCormack) wrote:

Joe

I did that and no change.

The laptop is a Toshiba Sat pro 4600 pentium 3 trident video and IBM
20gig hard drive. Well as reported by Fsys.eide anyway.

it just appears to stick and the disk access stays on.

Paul

In article <9g8b22$gh$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Try editng the hard.ata build file to use the Fsys.eide driver.
Also in the sysinit, add the following:
‘set -v’

This will cause the sysinit to be verbos so we can see if it gets
that far.
What kind of labtop & Hard drive do you have?

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Joe

It made no difference I am afraid.

exactly the same message.

Paul

In article <9g7rj3$k6b$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Try the following:

  1. Goto the /boot/build directory and verify that there is an file
    called hard.ata (or hard.ata.#)

  2. Go back one directory level (cd …)

  3. Enter the following commands
    make b=hard.ata d=Fsys.eide h=/dev/hd0 t=77
    cp -t images/hard.ata /.boot

  4. Re-boot system and see what happens

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
In article <9g5dpk$5cu$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support >Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

What happens when you try to boot into QNX 4?
Any error msgs?

No. It just sits at the press escape prompt with two dots at the
end >and the hard drive light stays on.


Run ‘fdisk /dev/hd0’ and verify that the QNX partition is set
as >> >> bootable.
The Boot column should have a ‘*’ in the QNX 4 row (type 77).

Done. I also tried dinit -hb /dev/hd0t77 and fdisk /dev/hd0
loader >> > boot qnx



Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Hi Joe

In article <9g52sc$sde$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support >Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

If the QNX partition crosses 1024 cylinders it will not
boot, it >>> > must >start
and end before this limit.

The QNX Partition does not cross the 1024 cylinder limit


Try booting with a QNX 4 boot disk and set the root
directory to >be >the >primary
partition (on hard disk) using the prefix command.

ex: /hd0/bin/prefix -R /=/hd0

Now try installing the Patch.

Done I even have photon running which was a surprise as the
trident >chipset does not appear to be supported by Photon 2.


Dosfsys will only work with FAT16 partitions, you will need
to >> > > use >>> Fatfsys to
access a FAT32 partition.

I also got this working but only to a few directories deep. I
really >need to concentrate on it but I more concerned with
not >> > > being able to >boot.


Regards,

Joe

Thanks for getting back to me.



Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
I am having major problems booting QNX4 on my laptop.

I have three partitions

1 QNX4.25A - hd0t77 - This is in the first 1.5 gig of the
drive >>> > > and I >can boot from a floppy, mount the drive
and see the >>> > > installation no >problem.

3 Extended DOS partition hd0t12 FAT drive. This is in the
last >>> > > 3.5gig >of the drive. I can see it as drive D in
windows 98 and >can >mount it >using Dosfsys when I try to
write to it says the >drive is >full.

4 Primary Win98 hd0t15 boots from the QNX bootloader no
problem.

I have tried several times to rewrite the secondary boot
loader >>> > > but >with no change.

I thought it may have been that I needed patch E and as it
had >>> >> > fatfsys i tried to mount the extended FAT
partition to mount it.

I have loaded QNX RTP and tried to use that to copy the
patch >to >the >QNX 4 partition. RTP mounts the partitions
but I cannot >write >to the >hd0t77. I can read it but it
says its full when I >try to >copy to it.

How do I get the patch from my FAT32/FAT extended
partition to >the >>> > QNX partition and then how to I get
the QNX partition >to boot.

I cannot change the drive translation in bios because its
a >> >> > > Toshiba >laptop and I dont have the option so I
stuck with >1024 >>> > > cylinders.

Paul





\

Hi Paul,

Can you post the output to ‘fdisk /dev/hd0 info’ and ‘fdisk /dev/hd0 show’.

Regards,

Joe


Paul McCormack <mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> wrote:

Any more suggestions Joe

This is very inconvenient.

I have access to another node and am going to try and compare the two boot
sectors on each to see if I can find anything obvious.

Paul

In article <> memo.20010613170518.63177A@mislimited.compulink.co.uk> >,
mccormp@mislimited.co.uk > (Paul McCormack) wrote:

Joe

I did that and no change.

The laptop is a Toshiba Sat pro 4600 pentium 3 trident video and IBM
20gig hard drive. Well as reported by Fsys.eide anyway.

it just appears to stick and the disk access stays on.

Paul

In article <9g8b22$gh$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Try editng the hard.ata build file to use the Fsys.eide driver.
Also in the sysinit, add the following:
‘set -v’

This will cause the sysinit to be verbos so we can see if it gets
that far.
What kind of labtop & Hard drive do you have?

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Joe

It made no difference I am afraid.

exactly the same message.

Paul

In article <9g7rj3$k6b$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Try the following:

  1. Goto the /boot/build directory and verify that there is an file
    called hard.ata (or hard.ata.#)

  2. Go back one directory level (cd …)

  3. Enter the following commands
    make b=hard.ata d=Fsys.eide h=/dev/hd0 t=77
    cp -t images/hard.ata /.boot

  4. Re-boot system and see what happens

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
In article <9g5dpk$5cu$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support >Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

What happens when you try to boot into QNX 4?
Any error msgs?

No. It just sits at the press escape prompt with two dots at the
end >and the hard drive light stays on.


Run ‘fdisk /dev/hd0’ and verify that the QNX partition is set
as >> >> bootable.
The Boot column should have a ‘*’ in the QNX 4 row (type 77).

Done. I also tried dinit -hb /dev/hd0t77 and fdisk /dev/hd0
loader >> > boot qnx



Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Hi Joe

In article <9g52sc$sde$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support >Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

If the QNX partition crosses 1024 cylinders it will not
boot, it >>> > must >start
and end before this limit.

The QNX Partition does not cross the 1024 cylinder limit


Try booting with a QNX 4 boot disk and set the root
directory to >be >the >primary
partition (on hard disk) using the prefix command.

ex: /hd0/bin/prefix -R /=/hd0

Now try installing the Patch.

Done I even have photon running which was a surprise as the
trident >chipset does not appear to be supported by Photon 2.


Dosfsys will only work with FAT16 partitions, you will need
to >> > > use >>> Fatfsys to
access a FAT32 partition.

I also got this working but only to a few directories deep. I
really >need to concentrate on it but I more concerned with
not >> > > being able to >boot.


Regards,

Joe

Thanks for getting back to me.



Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
I am having major problems booting QNX4 on my laptop.

I have three partitions

1 QNX4.25A - hd0t77 - This is in the first 1.5 gig of the
drive >>> > > and I >can boot from a floppy, mount the drive
and see the >>> > > installation no >problem.

3 Extended DOS partition hd0t12 FAT drive. This is in the
last >>> > > 3.5gig >of the drive. I can see it as drive D in
windows 98 and >can >mount it >using Dosfsys when I try to
write to it says the >drive is >full.

4 Primary Win98 hd0t15 boots from the QNX bootloader no
problem.

I have tried several times to rewrite the secondary boot
loader >>> > > but >with no change.

I thought it may have been that I needed patch E and as it
had >>> >> > fatfsys i tried to mount the extended FAT
partition to mount it.

I have loaded QNX RTP and tried to use that to copy the
patch >to >the >QNX 4 partition. RTP mounts the partitions
but I cannot >write >to the >hd0t77. I can read it but it
says its full when I >try to >copy to it.

How do I get the patch from my FAT32/FAT extended
partition to >the >>> > QNX partition and then how to I get
the QNX partition >to boot.

I cannot change the drive translation in bios because its
a >> >> > > Toshiba >laptop and I dont have the option so I
stuck with >1024 >>> > > cylinders.

Paul





\

Joe

Physical disk characteristics: (/dev/hd0)
Driver : EIDE Drvr
Physical Drive # : 0
Disk type : Hard (2)
Cylinders : 2432
Heads : 255
Sectors/Track : 63
Total Sectors : 39070080
Partition table information:
0: (11) beg(h=1,s=1,c=2) end(h=254,s=191,c=125) off=32193, size=10217277
1: (77) beg(h=0,s=129,c=126) end(h=254,s=255,c=242) off=10249470,
size=5992245
2: (78) beg(h=1,s=1,c=0) end(h=254,s=63,c=1) off=63, size=32067
3: (15) beg(h=0,s=193,c=243) end(h=254,s=255,c=255) off=16241715,
size=22828365
signature1=0x55, signature2=0xAA

output of fdisk /dev/hd0 SHOW

OS Start End _Number Size
Boot name type Cylinder Cylinder Cylinders Blocks

  1. Extd’d ( 15) 1011 2431 1421 22828365 11146 MB
    warning

  2. QNY ( 78) 0 1 2 32067 15 MB

  3. QNX ( 77) 638 1010 373 5992245 2925 MB

  4. FAT32 ( 11) 2 637 636 10217277 4988 MB *


    I should also tell you that I ended up having a Technology day after
    partition manager hung my machine. I now have a floppy boot disk that will
    boot my hard drive seamlessly but even though I set up a /boot_disk
    partition it still wont complete from the hard drive itself. I thought it
    may be something in the bios but now I can boot from the floppy I am not
    so sure.

Thanks for getting back to me.

Paul

In article <9gkqkg$kii$1@nntp.qnx.com>, hw@qnx.com (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Can you post the output to ‘fdisk /dev/hd0 info’ and ‘fdisk /dev/hd0
show’.

Regards,

Joe


Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Any more suggestions Joe

This is very inconvenient.

I have access to another node and am going to try and compare the two
boot sectors on each to see if I can find anything obvious.

Paul

In article <> memo.20010613170518.63177A@mislimited.compulink.co.uk> >,
mccormp@mislimited.co.uk > (Paul McCormack) wrote:

Joe

I did that and no change.

The laptop is a Toshiba Sat pro 4600 pentium 3 trident video and IBM
20gig hard drive. Well as reported by Fsys.eide anyway.

it just appears to stick and the disk access stays on.

Paul

In article <9g8b22$gh$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Try editng the hard.ata build file to use the Fsys.eide driver.
Also in the sysinit, add the following:
‘set -v’

This will cause the sysinit to be verbos so we can see if it gets
that far.
What kind of labtop & Hard drive do you have?

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Joe

It made no difference I am afraid.

exactly the same message.

Paul

In article <9g7rj3$k6b$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Try the following:

  1. Goto the /boot/build directory and verify that there is an
    file >>> called hard.ata (or hard.ata.#)

  2. Go back one directory level (cd …)

  3. Enter the following commands
    make b=hard.ata d=Fsys.eide h=/dev/hd0 t=77
    cp -t images/hard.ata /.boot

  4. Re-boot system and see what happens

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
In article <9g5dpk$5cu$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support >Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

What happens when you try to boot into QNX 4?
Any error msgs?

No. It just sits at the press escape prompt with two dots at
the >end >and the hard drive light stays on.


Run ‘fdisk /dev/hd0’ and verify that the QNX partition is
set >as >> >> bootable.
The Boot column should have a ‘*’ in the QNX 4 row (type 77).

Done. I also tried dinit -hb /dev/hd0t77 and fdisk /dev/hd0
loader >> > boot qnx



Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Hi Joe

In article <9g52sc$sde$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com
(Hardware >>> > > Support >Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

If the QNX partition crosses 1024 cylinders it will not
boot, it >>> > must >start
and end before this limit.

The QNX Partition does not cross the 1024 cylinder limit


Try booting with a QNX 4 boot disk and set the root
directory to >be >the >primary
partition (on hard disk) using the prefix command.

ex: /hd0/bin/prefix -R /=/hd0

Now try installing the Patch.

Done I even have photon running which was a surprise as
the >>> > > trident >chipset does not appear to be supported
by Photon 2.


Dosfsys will only work with FAT16 partitions, you will
need >to >> > > use >>> Fatfsys to
access a FAT32 partition.

I also got this working but only to a few directories
deep. I >>> > > really >need to concentrate on it but I more
concerned with >not >> > > being able to >boot.


Regards,

Joe

Thanks for getting back to me.



Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
I am having major problems booting QNX4 on my laptop.

I have three partitions

1 QNX4.25A - hd0t77 - This is in the first 1.5 gig of
the >drive >>> > > and I >can boot from a floppy, mount the
drive >and see the >>> > > installation no >problem.

3 Extended DOS partition hd0t12 FAT drive. This is in
the >last >>> > > 3.5gig >of the drive. I can see it as
drive D in >windows 98 and >can >mount it >using
Dosfsys when I try to >write to it says the >drive is >full.

4 Primary Win98 hd0t15 boots from the QNX bootloader no
problem.

I have tried several times to rewrite the secondary
boot >loader >>> > > but >with no change.

I thought it may have been that I needed patch E and as
it >had >>> >> > fatfsys i tried to mount the extended FAT
partition to mount it.

I have loaded QNX RTP and tried to use that to copy the
patch >to >the >QNX 4 partition. RTP mounts the partitions
but I cannot >write >to the >hd0t77. I can read it but it
says its full when I >try to >copy to it.

How do I get the patch from my FAT32/FAT extended
partition to >the >>> > QNX partition and then how to I
get >the QNX partition >to boot.

I cannot change the drive translation in bios because
its >a >> >> > > Toshiba >laptop and I dont have the option
so I >stuck with >1024 >>> > > cylinders.

Paul







\

Paul,

Is there data on the disk that you can’t afford to lose?

If you can start this from an empty disk then you could try building it one
partition at a time and see where the problem occurs. Try starting at the
QNX partition, in the first bunch of cylinders, then add QNY, then the
partition for Windows, and so on. It might at least give you a clue as to
where the problem is originating. Of course if you can’t afford to scrub the
partition data you have then obviously it’s no good. Still, I bet your
technology day was fun, I’ve been to a couple of them with your Toshiba…

Russ.

“Paul McCormack” <mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> wrote in message
news:memo.20010618170941.24659A@mislimited.compulink.co.uk

Joe

Physical disk characteristics: (/dev/hd0)
Driver : EIDE Drvr
Physical Drive # : 0
Disk type : Hard (2)
Cylinders : 2432
Heads : 255
Sectors/Track : 63
Total Sectors : 39070080
Partition table information:
0: (11) beg(h=1,s=1,c=2) end(h=254,s=191,c=125) off=32193, size=10217277
1: (77) beg(h=0,s=129,c=126) end(h=254,s=255,c=242) off=10249470,
size=5992245
2: (78) beg(h=1,s=1,c=0) end(h=254,s=63,c=1) off=63, size=32067
3: (15) beg(h=0,s=193,c=243) end(h=254,s=255,c=255) off=16241715,
size=22828365
signature1=0x55, signature2=0xAA

output of fdisk /dev/hd0 SHOW

OS Start End _Number Size
Boot name type Cylinder Cylinder Cylinders Blocks

  1. Extd’d ( 15) 1011 2431 1421 22828365 11146 MB
    warning

  2. QNY ( 78) 0 1 2 32067 15 MB

  3. QNX ( 77) 638 1010 373 5992245 2925 MB

  4. FAT32 ( 11) 2 637 636 10217277 4988 MB *


    I should also tell you that I ended up having a Technology day after
    partition manager hung my machine. I now have a floppy boot disk that will
    boot my hard drive seamlessly but even though I set up a /boot_disk
    partition it still wont complete from the hard drive itself. I thought it
    may be something in the bios but now I can boot from the floppy I am not
    so sure.

Thanks for getting back to me.

Paul

In article <9gkqkg$kii$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Can you post the output to ‘fdisk /dev/hd0 info’ and ‘fdisk /dev/hd0
show’.

Regards,

Joe


Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Any more suggestions Joe

This is very inconvenient.

I have access to another node and am going to try and compare the two
boot sectors on each to see if I can find anything obvious.

Paul

In article <> memo.20010613170518.63177A@mislimited.compulink.co.uk> >,
mccormp@mislimited.co.uk > (Paul McCormack) wrote:

Joe

I did that and no change.

The laptop is a Toshiba Sat pro 4600 pentium 3 trident video and IBM
20gig hard drive. Well as reported by Fsys.eide anyway.

it just appears to stick and the disk access stays on.

Paul

In article <9g8b22$gh$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Try editng the hard.ata build file to use the Fsys.eide driver.
Also in the sysinit, add the following:
‘set -v’

This will cause the sysinit to be verbos so we can see if it gets
that far.
What kind of labtop & Hard drive do you have?

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Joe

It made no difference I am afraid.

exactly the same message.

Paul

In article <9g7rj3$k6b$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Try the following:

  1. Goto the /boot/build directory and verify that there is an
    file >>> called hard.ata (or hard.ata.#)

  2. Go back one directory level (cd …)

  3. Enter the following commands
    make b=hard.ata d=Fsys.eide h=/dev/hd0 t=77
    cp -t images/hard.ata /.boot

  4. Re-boot system and see what happens

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
In article <9g5dpk$5cu$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support >Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

What happens when you try to boot into QNX 4?
Any error msgs?

No. It just sits at the press escape prompt with two dots at
the >end >and the hard drive light stays on.


Run ‘fdisk /dev/hd0’ and verify that the QNX partition is
set >as >> >> bootable.
The Boot column should have a ‘*’ in the QNX 4 row (type 77).

Done. I also tried dinit -hb /dev/hd0t77 and fdisk /dev/hd0
loader >> > boot qnx



Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Hi Joe

In article <9g52sc$sde$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com
(Hardware >>> > > Support >Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

If the QNX partition crosses 1024 cylinders it will not
boot, it >>> > must >start
and end before this limit.

The QNX Partition does not cross the 1024 cylinder limit


Try booting with a QNX 4 boot disk and set the root
directory to >be >the >primary
partition (on hard disk) using the prefix command.

ex: /hd0/bin/prefix -R /=/hd0

Now try installing the Patch.

Done I even have photon running which was a surprise as
the >>> > > trident >chipset does not appear to be supported
by Photon 2.


Dosfsys will only work with FAT16 partitions, you will
need >to >> > > use >>> Fatfsys to
access a FAT32 partition.

I also got this working but only to a few directories
deep. I >>> > > really >need to concentrate on it but I more
concerned with >not >> > > being able to >boot.


Regards,

Joe

Thanks for getting back to me.



Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
I am having major problems booting QNX4 on my laptop.

I have three partitions

1 QNX4.25A - hd0t77 - This is in the first 1.5 gig of
the >drive >>> > > and I >can boot from a floppy, mount the
drive >and see the >>> > > installation no >problem.

3 Extended DOS partition hd0t12 FAT drive. This is in
the >last >>> > > 3.5gig >of the drive. I can see it as
drive D in >windows 98 and >can >mount it >using
Dosfsys when I try to >write to it says the >drive is >full.

4 Primary Win98 hd0t15 boots from the QNX bootloader no
problem.

I have tried several times to rewrite the secondary
boot >loader >>> > > but >with no change.

I thought it may have been that I needed patch E and as
it >had >>> >> > fatfsys i tried to mount the extended FAT
partition to mount it.

I have loaded QNX RTP and tried to use that to copy the
patch >to >the >QNX 4 partition. RTP mounts the partitions
but I cannot >write >to the >hd0t77. I can read it but it
says its full when I >try to >copy to it.

How do I get the patch from my FAT32/FAT extended
partition to >the >>> > QNX partition and then how to I
get >the QNX partition >to boot.

I cannot change the drive translation in bios because
its >a >> >> > > Toshiba >laptop and I dont have the option
so I >stuck with >1024 >>> > > cylinders.

Paul








\

Hi Paul,

Your partition table looks fine.
Can you post your OS build files, sorry I should have asked you to do this before.

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> wrote:

Joe

Physical disk characteristics: (/dev/hd0)
Driver : EIDE Drvr
Physical Drive # : 0
Disk type : Hard (2)
Cylinders : 2432
Heads : 255
Sectors/Track : 63
Total Sectors : 39070080
Partition table information:
0: (11) beg(h=1,s=1,c=2) end(h=254,s=191,c=125) off=32193, size=10217277
1: (77) beg(h=0,s=129,c=126) end(h=254,s=255,c=242) off=10249470,
size=5992245
2: (78) beg(h=1,s=1,c=0) end(h=254,s=63,c=1) off=63, size=32067
3: (15) beg(h=0,s=193,c=243) end(h=254,s=255,c=255) off=16241715,
size=22828365
signature1=0x55, signature2=0xAA

output of fdisk /dev/hd0 SHOW

OS Start End _Number Size
Boot name type Cylinder Cylinder Cylinders Blocks

  1. Extd’d ( 15) 1011 2431 1421 22828365 11146 MB
    warning

  2. QNY ( 78) 0 1 2 32067 15 MB

  3. QNX ( 77) 638 1010 373 5992245 2925 MB

  4. FAT32 ( 11) 2 637 636 10217277 4988 MB *



    I should also tell you that I ended up having a Technology day after
    partition manager hung my machine. I now have a floppy boot disk that will
    boot my hard drive seamlessly but even though I set up a /boot_disk
    partition it still wont complete from the hard drive itself. I thought it
    may be something in the bios but now I can boot from the floppy I am not
    so sure.

Thanks for getting back to me.

Paul

In article <9gkqkg$kii$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Can you post the output to ‘fdisk /dev/hd0 info’ and ‘fdisk /dev/hd0
show’.

Regards,

Joe


Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Any more suggestions Joe

This is very inconvenient.

I have access to another node and am going to try and compare the two
boot sectors on each to see if I can find anything obvious.

Paul

In article <> memo.20010613170518.63177A@mislimited.compulink.co.uk> >,
mccormp@mislimited.co.uk > (Paul McCormack) wrote:

Joe

I did that and no change.

The laptop is a Toshiba Sat pro 4600 pentium 3 trident video and IBM
20gig hard drive. Well as reported by Fsys.eide anyway.

it just appears to stick and the disk access stays on.

Paul

In article <9g8b22$gh$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Try editng the hard.ata build file to use the Fsys.eide driver.
Also in the sysinit, add the following:
‘set -v’

This will cause the sysinit to be verbos so we can see if it gets
that far.
What kind of labtop & Hard drive do you have?

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Joe

It made no difference I am afraid.

exactly the same message.

Paul

In article <9g7rj3$k6b$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Try the following:

  1. Goto the /boot/build directory and verify that there is an
    file >>> called hard.ata (or hard.ata.#)

  2. Go back one directory level (cd …)

  3. Enter the following commands
    make b=hard.ata d=Fsys.eide h=/dev/hd0 t=77
    cp -t images/hard.ata /.boot

  4. Re-boot system and see what happens

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
In article <9g5dpk$5cu$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support >Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

What happens when you try to boot into QNX 4?
Any error msgs?

No. It just sits at the press escape prompt with two dots at
the >end >and the hard drive light stays on.


Run ‘fdisk /dev/hd0’ and verify that the QNX partition is
set >as >> >> bootable.
The Boot column should have a ‘*’ in the QNX 4 row (type 77).

Done. I also tried dinit -hb /dev/hd0t77 and fdisk /dev/hd0
loader >> > boot qnx



Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Hi Joe

In article <9g52sc$sde$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com
(Hardware >>> > > Support >Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

If the QNX partition crosses 1024 cylinders it will not
boot, it >>> > must >start
and end before this limit.

The QNX Partition does not cross the 1024 cylinder limit


Try booting with a QNX 4 boot disk and set the root
directory to >be >the >primary
partition (on hard disk) using the prefix command.

ex: /hd0/bin/prefix -R /=/hd0

Now try installing the Patch.

Done I even have photon running which was a surprise as
the >>> > > trident >chipset does not appear to be supported
by Photon 2.


Dosfsys will only work with FAT16 partitions, you will
need >to >> > > use >>> Fatfsys to
access a FAT32 partition.

I also got this working but only to a few directories
deep. I >>> > > really >need to concentrate on it but I more
concerned with >not >> > > being able to >boot.


Regards,

Joe

Thanks for getting back to me.



Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
I am having major problems booting QNX4 on my laptop.

I have three partitions

1 QNX4.25A - hd0t77 - This is in the first 1.5 gig of
the >drive >>> > > and I >can boot from a floppy, mount the
drive >and see the >>> > > installation no >problem.

3 Extended DOS partition hd0t12 FAT drive. This is in
the >last >>> > > 3.5gig >of the drive. I can see it as
drive D in >windows 98 and >can >mount it >using
Dosfsys when I try to >write to it says the >drive is >full.

4 Primary Win98 hd0t15 boots from the QNX bootloader no
problem.

I have tried several times to rewrite the secondary
boot >loader >>> > > but >with no change.

I thought it may have been that I needed patch E and as
it >had >>> >> > fatfsys i tried to mount the extended FAT
partition to mount it.

I have loaded QNX RTP and tried to use that to copy the
patch >to >the >QNX 4 partition. RTP mounts the partitions
but I cannot >write >to the >hd0t77. I can read it but it
says its full when I >try to >copy to it.

How do I get the patch from my FAT32/FAT extended
partition to >the >>> > QNX partition and then how to I
get >the QNX partition >to boot.

I cannot change the drive translation in bios because
its >a >> >> > > Toshiba >laptop and I dont have the option
so I >stuck with >1024 >>> > > cylinders.

Paul







\

Russ

You know I always have data I can’t afford to lose. This is a new Tosh
anyway. I still miss the old one and that ran QNX no problem.

I have already tried to do as you suggested but to no avail and I needed
to get my email working again as soon as poss.

Thanks for the try anyway.

Paul

In article <9gslie$2sd$1@inn.qnx.com>, russ@bilbey.com (Russ Bilbey)
wrote:

Paul,

Is there data on the disk that you can’t afford to lose?

If you can start this from an empty disk then you could try building it
one
partition at a time and see where the problem occurs. Try starting at
the
QNX partition, in the first bunch of cylinders, then add QNY, then the
partition for Windows, and so on. It might at least give you a clue as
to
where the problem is originating. Of course if you can’t afford to
scrub the
partition data you have then obviously it’s no good. Still, I bet your
technology day was fun, I’ve been to a couple of them with your
Toshiba…

Russ.

“Paul McCormack” <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote in message
news:> memo.20010618170941.24659A@mislimited.compulink.co.uk> …
Joe

Physical disk characteristics: (/dev/hd0)
Driver : EIDE Drvr
Physical Drive # : 0
Disk type : Hard (2)
Cylinders : 2432
Heads : 255
Sectors/Track : 63
Total Sectors : 39070080
Partition table information:
0: (11) beg(h=1,s=1,c=2) end(h=254,s=191,c=125) off=32193,
size=10217277
1: (77) beg(h=0,s=129,c=126) end(h=254,s=255,c=242) off=10249470,
size=5992245
2: (78) beg(h=1,s=1,c=0) end(h=254,s=63,c=1) off=63, size=32067
3: (15) beg(h=0,s=193,c=243) end(h=254,s=255,c=255) off=16241715,
size=22828365
signature1=0x55, signature2=0xAA

output of fdisk /dev/hd0 SHOW

OS Start End _Number Size
Boot name type Cylinder Cylinder Cylinders Blocks

  1. Extd’d ( 15) 1011 2431 1421 22828365 11146 MB
    warning

  2. QNY ( 78) 0 1 2 32067 15 MB

  3. QNX ( 77) 638 1010 373 5992245 2925 MB

  4. FAT32 ( 11) 2 637 636 10217277 4988
    MB *


    I should also tell you that I ended up having a Technology day after
    partition manager hung my machine. I now have a floppy boot disk that
    will
    boot my hard drive seamlessly but even though I set up a /boot_disk
    partition it still wont complete from the hard drive itself. I
    thought it
    may be something in the bios but now I can boot from the floppy I am
    not
    so sure.

Thanks for getting back to me.

Paul

In article <9gkqkg$kii$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Can you post the output to ‘fdisk /dev/hd0 info’ and ‘fdisk /dev/hd0
show’.

Regards,

Joe


Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Any more suggestions Joe

This is very inconvenient.

I have access to another node and am going to try and compare the
two
boot sectors on each to see if I can find anything obvious.

Paul

In article
memo.20010613170518.63177A@mislimited.compulink.co.uk> >,
mccormp@mislimited.co.uk > (Paul McCormack) wrote:

Joe

I did that and no change.

The laptop is a Toshiba Sat pro 4600 pentium 3 trident video and
IBM
20gig hard drive. Well as reported by Fsys.eide anyway.

it just appears to stick and the disk access stays on.

Paul

In article <9g8b22$gh$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Try editng the hard.ata build file to use the Fsys.eide driver.
Also in the sysinit, add the following:
‘set -v’

This will cause the sysinit to be verbos so we can see if it
gets
that far.
What kind of labtop & Hard drive do you have?

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Joe

It made no difference I am afraid.

exactly the same message.

Paul

In article <9g7rj3$k6b$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Try the following:

  1. Goto the /boot/build directory and verify that there is
    an
    file >>> called hard.ata (or hard.ata.#)

  2. Go back one directory level (cd …)

  3. Enter the following commands
    make b=hard.ata d=Fsys.eide h=/dev/hd0 t=77
    cp -t images/hard.ata /.boot

  4. Re-boot system and see what happens

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
In article <9g5dpk$5cu$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com
(Hardware
Support >Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

What happens when you try to boot into QNX 4?
Any error msgs?

No. It just sits at the press escape prompt with two dots
at
the >end >and the hard drive light stays on.


Run ‘fdisk /dev/hd0’ and verify that the QNX partition is
set >as >> >> bootable.
The Boot column should have a ‘*’ in the QNX 4 row (type
77).

Done. I also tried dinit -hb /dev/hd0t77 and fdisk
/dev/hd0
loader >> > boot qnx



Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Hi Joe

In article <9g52sc$sde$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com
(Hardware >>> > > Support >Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

If the QNX partition crosses 1024 cylinders it will
not
boot, it >>> > must >start
and end before this limit.

The QNX Partition does not cross the 1024 cylinder
limit


Try booting with a QNX 4 boot disk and set the root
directory to >be >the >primary
partition (on hard disk) using the prefix command.

ex: /hd0/bin/prefix -R /=/hd0

Now try installing the Patch.

Done I even have photon running which was a surprise as
the >>> > > trident >chipset does not appear to be
supported
by Photon 2.


Dosfsys will only work with FAT16 partitions, you will
need >to >> > > use >>> Fatfsys to
access a FAT32 partition.

I also got this working but only to a few directories
deep. I >>> > > really >need to concentrate on it but I
more
concerned with >not >> > > being able to >boot.


Regards,

Joe

Thanks for getting back to me.



Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
I am having major problems booting QNX4 on my
laptop.

I have three partitions

1 QNX4.25A - hd0t77 - This is in the first 1.5 gig
of
the >drive >>> > > and I >can boot from a floppy, mount
the
drive >and see the >>> > > installation no
problem.

3 Extended DOS partition hd0t12 FAT drive. This is
in
the >last >>> > > 3.5gig >of the drive. I can see it as
drive D in >windows 98 and >can >mount it >using
Dosfsys when I try to >write to it says the >drive is
full.

4 Primary Win98 hd0t15 boots from the QNX
bootloader no
problem.

I have tried several times to rewrite the secondary
boot >loader >>> > > but >with no change.

I thought it may have been that I needed patch E
and as
it >had >>> >> > fatfsys i tried to mount the extended
FAT
partition to mount it.

I have loaded QNX RTP and tried to use that to copy
the
patch >to >the >QNX 4 partition. RTP mounts the
partitions
but I cannot >write >to the >hd0t77. I can read it but
it
says its full when I >try to >copy to it.

How do I get the patch from my FAT32/FAT extended
partition to >the >>> > QNX partition and then how to I
get >the QNX partition >to boot.

I cannot change the drive translation in bios
because
its >a >> >> > > Toshiba >laptop and I dont have the
option
so I >stuck with >1024 >>> > > cylinders.

Paul











\

Boot file as requested Joe

No need to apologise I am just thankful you are still trying to help.

sys/boot
$ boot -fv

sys/Proc32
$ Proc32 -l 1

sys/Slib32
$ Slib32

sys/Slib16
$ Slib16

/bin/Fsys
$ Fsys

/bin/Fsys.eide
$ Fsys.eide

/bin/mount
$ mount -p/dev/hd0 /dev/hd0t78 /boot_disk

/bin/mount
$ mount /dev/hd0t77 /

/bin/sinit
$ sinit TERM=qnx




In article <9gtc8h$554$1@nntp.qnx.com>, hw@qnx.com (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Your partition table looks fine.
Can you post your OS build files, sorry I should have asked you to do
this before.

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Joe

Physical disk characteristics: (/dev/hd0)
Driver : EIDE Drvr
Physical Drive # : 0
Disk type : Hard (2)
Cylinders : 2432
Heads : 255
Sectors/Track : 63
Total Sectors : 39070080
Partition table information:
0: (11) beg(h=1,s=1,c=2) end(h=254,s=191,c=125) off=32193,
size=10217277
1: (77) beg(h=0,s=129,c=126) end(h=254,s=255,c=242) off=10249470,
size=5992245
2: (78) beg(h=1,s=1,c=0) end(h=254,s=63,c=1) off=63, size=32067
3: (15) beg(h=0,s=193,c=243) end(h=254,s=255,c=255) off=16241715,
size=22828365
signature1=0x55, signature2=0xAA

output of fdisk /dev/hd0 SHOW

OS Start End _Number Size
Boot name type Cylinder Cylinder Cylinders Blocks

  1. Extd’d ( 15) 1011 2431 1421 22828365
    11146 MB warning
  2. QNY ( 78) 0 1 2 32067 15
    MB > 3. QNX ( 77) 638 1010 373
    5992245 2925 MB > 4. FAT32 ( 11) 2 637
    636 10217277 4988 MB *


    I should also tell you that I ended up having a Technology day after
    partition manager hung my machine. I now have a floppy boot disk that
    will boot my hard drive seamlessly but even though I set up a
    /boot_disk partition it still wont complete from the hard drive
    itself. I thought it may be something in the bios but now I can boot
    from the floppy I am not so sure.

Thanks for getting back to me.

Paul

In article <9gkqkg$kii$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Can you post the output to ‘fdisk /dev/hd0 info’ and ‘fdisk /dev/hd0
show’.

Regards,

Joe


Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Any more suggestions Joe

This is very inconvenient.

I have access to another node and am going to try and compare the
two >boot sectors on each to see if I can find anything obvious.

Paul

In article
memo.20010613170518.63177A@mislimited.compulink.co.uk> >,
mccormp@mislimited.co.uk > (Paul McCormack) wrote:

Joe

I did that and no change.

The laptop is a Toshiba Sat pro 4600 pentium 3 trident video and
IBM >>> 20gig hard drive. Well as reported by Fsys.eide anyway.

it just appears to stick and the disk access stays on.

Paul

In article <9g8b22$gh$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support >>> Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Try editng the hard.ata build file to use the Fsys.eide driver.
Also in the sysinit, add the following:
‘set -v’

This will cause the sysinit to be verbos so we can see if it
gets >>> > that far.
What kind of labtop & Hard drive do you have?

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Joe

It made no difference I am afraid.

exactly the same message.

Paul

In article <9g7rj3$k6b$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Try the following:

  1. Goto the /boot/build directory and verify that there is
    an >file >>> called hard.ata (or hard.ata.#)

  2. Go back one directory level (cd …)

  3. Enter the following commands
    make b=hard.ata d=Fsys.eide h=/dev/hd0 t=77
    cp -t images/hard.ata /.boot

  4. Re-boot system and see what happens

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
In article <9g5dpk$5cu$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com
(Hardware >>> > > > Support >Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

What happens when you try to boot into QNX 4?
Any error msgs?

No. It just sits at the press escape prompt with two dots
at >the >end >and the hard drive light stays on.


Run ‘fdisk /dev/hd0’ and verify that the QNX partition is
set >as >> >> bootable.
The Boot column should have a ‘*’ in the QNX 4 row (type
77).

Done. I also tried dinit -hb /dev/hd0t77 and fdisk
/dev/hd0 >>> > > > loader >> > boot qnx



Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Hi Joe

In article <9g52sc$sde$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com
(Hardware >>> > > Support >Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

If the QNX partition crosses 1024 cylinders it will
not >>> > > > > boot, it >>> > must >start
and end before this limit.

The QNX Partition does not cross the 1024 cylinder limit


Try booting with a QNX 4 boot disk and set the root
directory to >be >the >primary
partition (on hard disk) using the prefix command.

ex: /hd0/bin/prefix -R /=/hd0

Now try installing the Patch.

Done I even have photon running which was a surprise as
the >>> > > trident >chipset does not appear to be
supported >by Photon 2.


Dosfsys will only work with FAT16 partitions, you will
need >to >> > > use >>> Fatfsys to
access a FAT32 partition.

I also got this working but only to a few directories
deep. I >>> > > really >need to concentrate on it but I
more >concerned with >not >> > > being able to >boot.


Regards,

Joe

Thanks for getting back to me.



Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
I am having major problems booting QNX4 on my laptop.

I have three partitions

1 QNX4.25A - hd0t77 - This is in the first 1.5 gig
of >the >drive >>> > > and I >can boot from a floppy,
mount the >drive >and see the >>> > > installation
no >problem.

3 Extended DOS partition hd0t12 FAT drive. This is
in >the >last >>> > > 3.5gig >of the drive. I can see it
as >drive D in >windows 98 and >can >mount it
using >Dosfsys when I try to >write to it says the
drive is >full.

4 Primary Win98 hd0t15 boots from the QNX bootloader
no >>> > > > > > problem.

I have tried several times to rewrite the secondary
boot >loader >>> > > but >with no change.

I thought it may have been that I needed patch E and
as >it >had >>> >> > fatfsys i tried to mount the
extended FAT >>> > > > > > partition to mount it.

I have loaded QNX RTP and tried to use that to copy
the >>> > > > > > patch >to >the >QNX 4 partition. RTP
mounts the partitions >>> > > > > > but I cannot >write
to the >hd0t77. I can read it but it >>> > > > > > says
its full when I >try to >copy to it.

How do I get the patch from my FAT32/FAT extended
partition to >the >>> > QNX partition and then how to I
get >the QNX partition >to boot.

I cannot change the drive translation in bios
because >its >a >> >> > > Toshiba >laptop and I dont have
the option >so I >stuck with >1024
cylinders.

Paul









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I am almost convinced its something to do with the power management or PCI
bios but using the switches in the boot image makes very little
difference.

Paul

In article <9h05p9$8ni$1@inn.qnx.com>, russ@bilbey.com (Russ Bilbey)
wrote:

Paul,

I need to find a Tosh to play with, I’ll get on it Monday if you still
have
the problem. I just created similar partition sizes on a desktop 20Gb
drive
starting with a QNX partition in 0-1024 cylinders (QNX4) then QNY
(QNX2),
QNZ (RTP), then Win98 (FAT32) with 2 logical drives in an extended
partition
with no problems whatsoever. I originally tried to split the partitions
evenly between OS’s but have since tried moving these farther and
farther
away from an ideal split but no hiccups so far. Give me a couple of
days…

Russ.

“Paul McCormack” <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote in message
news:> memo.20010622032115.6087F@mislimited.compulink.co.uk> …
Boot file as requested Joe

No need to apologise I am just thankful you are still trying to help.

sys/boot
$ boot -fv

sys/Proc32
$ Proc32 -l 1

sys/Slib32
$ Slib32

sys/Slib16
$ Slib16

/bin/Fsys
$ Fsys

/bin/Fsys.eide
$ Fsys.eide

/bin/mount
$ mount -p/dev/hd0 /dev/hd0t78 /boot_disk

/bin/mount
$ mount /dev/hd0t77 /

/bin/sinit
$ sinit TERM=qnx




In article <9gtc8h$554$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Your partition table looks fine.
Can you post your OS build files, sorry I should have asked you to
do
this before.

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Joe

Physical disk characteristics: (/dev/hd0)
Driver : EIDE Drvr
Physical Drive # : 0
Disk type : Hard (2)
Cylinders : 2432
Heads : 255
Sectors/Track : 63
Total Sectors : 39070080
Partition table information:
0: (11) beg(h=1,s=1,c=2) end(h=254,s=191,c=125) off=32193,
size=10217277
1: (77) beg(h=0,s=129,c=126) end(h=254,s=255,c=242) off=10249470,
size=5992245
2: (78) beg(h=1,s=1,c=0) end(h=254,s=63,c=1) off=63, size=32067
3: (15) beg(h=0,s=193,c=243) end(h=254,s=255,c=255) off=16241715,
size=22828365
signature1=0x55, signature2=0xAA

output of fdisk /dev/hd0 SHOW

OS Start End _Number
Size
Boot name type Cylinder Cylinder Cylinders Blocks

  1. Extd’d ( 15) 1011 2431 1421 22828365
    11146 MB warning
  2. QNY ( 78) 0 1 2 32067
    15
    MB > 3. QNX ( 77) 638 1010 373
    5992245 2925 MB > 4. FAT32 ( 11) 2
    637
    636 10217277 4988 MB *


    I should also tell you that I ended up having a Technology day
    after
    partition manager hung my machine. I now have a floppy boot disk
    that
    will boot my hard drive seamlessly but even though I set up a
    /boot_disk partition it still wont complete from the hard drive
    itself. I thought it may be something in the bios but now I can
    boot
    from the floppy I am not so sure.

Thanks for getting back to me.

Paul

In article <9gkqkg$kii$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Can you post the output to ‘fdisk /dev/hd0 info’ and ‘fdisk
/dev/hd0
show’.

Regards,

Joe


Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Any more suggestions Joe

This is very inconvenient.

I have access to another node and am going to try and compare
the
two >boot sectors on each to see if I can find anything obvious.

Paul

In article
memo.20010613170518.63177A@mislimited.compulink.co.uk> >,
mccormp@mislimited.co.uk > (Paul McCormack) wrote:

Joe

I did that and no change.

The laptop is a Toshiba Sat pro 4600 pentium 3 trident video
and
IBM >>> 20gig hard drive. Well as reported by Fsys.eide anyway.

it just appears to stick and the disk access stays on.

Paul

In article <9g8b22$gh$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support >>> Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Try editng the hard.ata build file to use the Fsys.eide
driver.
Also in the sysinit, add the following:
‘set -v’

This will cause the sysinit to be verbos so we can see if it
gets >>> > that far.
What kind of labtop & Hard drive do you have?

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Joe

It made no difference I am afraid.

exactly the same message.

Paul

In article <9g7rj3$k6b$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com
(Hardware
Support Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Try the following:

  1. Goto the /boot/build directory and verify that there
    is
    an >file >>> called hard.ata (or hard.ata.#)

  2. Go back one directory level (cd …)

  3. Enter the following commands
    make b=hard.ata d=Fsys.eide h=/dev/hd0 t=77
    cp -t images/hard.ata /.boot

  4. Re-boot system and see what happens

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
In article <9g5dpk$5cu$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com
(Hardware >>> > > > Support >Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

What happens when you try to boot into QNX 4?
Any error msgs?

No. It just sits at the press escape prompt with two
dots
at >the >end >and the hard drive light stays on.


Run ‘fdisk /dev/hd0’ and verify that the QNX
partition is
set >as >> >> bootable.
The Boot column should have a ‘*’ in the QNX 4 row
(type
77).

Done. I also tried dinit -hb /dev/hd0t77 and fdisk
/dev/hd0 >>> > > > loader >> > boot qnx



Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Hi Joe

In article <9g52sc$sde$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com
(Hardware >>> > > Support >Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

If the QNX partition crosses 1024 cylinders it will
not >>> > > > > boot, it >>> > must >start
and end before this limit.

The QNX Partition does not cross the 1024 cylinder
limit


Try booting with a QNX 4 boot disk and set the root
directory to >be >the >primary
partition (on hard disk) using the prefix command.

ex: /hd0/bin/prefix -R /=/hd0

Now try installing the Patch.

Done I even have photon running which was a
surprise as
the >>> > > trident >chipset does not appear to be
supported >by Photon 2.


Dosfsys will only work with FAT16 partitions, you
will
need >to >> > > use >>> Fatfsys to
access a FAT32 partition.

I also got this working but only to a few
directories
deep. I >>> > > really >need to concentrate on it but I
more >concerned with >not >> > > being able to
boot.


Regards,

Joe

Thanks for getting back to me.



Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
I am having major problems booting QNX4 on my
laptop.

I have three partitions

1 QNX4.25A - hd0t77 - This is in the first 1.5
gig
of >the >drive >>> > > and I >can boot from a floppy,
mount the >drive >and see the
installation
no >problem.

3 Extended DOS partition hd0t12 FAT drive. This
is
in >the >last >>> > > 3.5gig >of the drive. I can see
it
as >drive D in >windows 98 and >can >mount it
using >Dosfsys when I try to >write to it says
the
drive is >full.

4 Primary Win98 hd0t15 boots from the QNX
bootloader
no >>> > > > > > problem.

I have tried several times to rewrite the
secondary
boot >loader >>> > > but >with no change.

I thought it may have been that I needed patch E
and
as >it >had >>> >> > fatfsys i tried to mount the
extended FAT >>> > > > > > partition to mount
it.

I have loaded QNX RTP and tried to use that to
copy
the >>> > > > > > patch >to >the >QNX 4 partition. RTP
mounts the partitions >>> > > > > > but I cannot
write
to the >hd0t77. I can read it but it
says
its full when I >try to >copy to it.

How do I get the patch from my FAT32/FAT extended
partition to >the >>> > QNX partition and then how
to I
get >the QNX partition >to boot.

I cannot change the drive translation in bios
because >its >a >> >> > > Toshiba >laptop and I dont
have
the option >so I >stuck with >1024
cylinders.

Paul













\

Paul,

I need to find a Tosh to play with, I’ll get on it Monday if you still have
the problem. I just created similar partition sizes on a desktop 20Gb drive
starting with a QNX partition in 0-1024 cylinders (QNX4) then QNY (QNX2),
QNZ (RTP), then Win98 (FAT32) with 2 logical drives in an extended partition
with no problems whatsoever. I originally tried to split the partitions
evenly between OS’s but have since tried moving these farther and farther
away from an ideal split but no hiccups so far. Give me a couple of
days…

Russ.

“Paul McCormack” <mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> wrote in message
news:memo.20010622032115.6087F@mislimited.compulink.co.uk

Boot file as requested Joe

No need to apologise I am just thankful you are still trying to help.

sys/boot
$ boot -fv

sys/Proc32
$ Proc32 -l 1

sys/Slib32
$ Slib32

sys/Slib16
$ Slib16

/bin/Fsys
$ Fsys

/bin/Fsys.eide
$ Fsys.eide

/bin/mount
$ mount -p/dev/hd0 /dev/hd0t78 /boot_disk

/bin/mount
$ mount /dev/hd0t77 /

/bin/sinit
$ sinit TERM=qnx




In article <9gtc8h$554$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Your partition table looks fine.
Can you post your OS build files, sorry I should have asked you to do
this before.

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Joe

Physical disk characteristics: (/dev/hd0)
Driver : EIDE Drvr
Physical Drive # : 0
Disk type : Hard (2)
Cylinders : 2432
Heads : 255
Sectors/Track : 63
Total Sectors : 39070080
Partition table information:
0: (11) beg(h=1,s=1,c=2) end(h=254,s=191,c=125) off=32193,
size=10217277
1: (77) beg(h=0,s=129,c=126) end(h=254,s=255,c=242) off=10249470,
size=5992245
2: (78) beg(h=1,s=1,c=0) end(h=254,s=63,c=1) off=63, size=32067
3: (15) beg(h=0,s=193,c=243) end(h=254,s=255,c=255) off=16241715,
size=22828365
signature1=0x55, signature2=0xAA

output of fdisk /dev/hd0 SHOW

OS Start End _Number Size
Boot name type Cylinder Cylinder Cylinders Blocks

  1. Extd’d ( 15) 1011 2431 1421 22828365
    11146 MB warning
  2. QNY ( 78) 0 1 2 32067 15
    MB > 3. QNX ( 77) 638 1010 373
    5992245 2925 MB > 4. FAT32 ( 11) 2 637
    636 10217277 4988 MB *


    I should also tell you that I ended up having a Technology day after
    partition manager hung my machine. I now have a floppy boot disk that
    will boot my hard drive seamlessly but even though I set up a
    /boot_disk partition it still wont complete from the hard drive
    itself. I thought it may be something in the bios but now I can boot
    from the floppy I am not so sure.

Thanks for getting back to me.

Paul

In article <9gkqkg$kii$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware Support
Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Can you post the output to ‘fdisk /dev/hd0 info’ and ‘fdisk /dev/hd0
show’.

Regards,

Joe


Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Any more suggestions Joe

This is very inconvenient.

I have access to another node and am going to try and compare the
two >boot sectors on each to see if I can find anything obvious.

Paul

In article
memo.20010613170518.63177A@mislimited.compulink.co.uk> >,
mccormp@mislimited.co.uk > (Paul McCormack) wrote:

Joe

I did that and no change.

The laptop is a Toshiba Sat pro 4600 pentium 3 trident video and
IBM >>> 20gig hard drive. Well as reported by Fsys.eide anyway.

it just appears to stick and the disk access stays on.

Paul

In article <9g8b22$gh$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support >>> Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Try editng the hard.ata build file to use the Fsys.eide driver.
Also in the sysinit, add the following:
‘set -v’

This will cause the sysinit to be verbos so we can see if it
gets >>> > that far.
What kind of labtop & Hard drive do you have?

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Joe

It made no difference I am afraid.

exactly the same message.

Paul

In article <9g7rj3$k6b$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com > (Hardware
Support Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

Try the following:

  1. Goto the /boot/build directory and verify that there is
    an >file >>> called hard.ata (or hard.ata.#)

  2. Go back one directory level (cd …)

  3. Enter the following commands
    make b=hard.ata d=Fsys.eide h=/dev/hd0 t=77
    cp -t images/hard.ata /.boot

  4. Re-boot system and see what happens

Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
In article <9g5dpk$5cu$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com
(Hardware >>> > > > Support >Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

What happens when you try to boot into QNX 4?
Any error msgs?

No. It just sits at the press escape prompt with two dots
at >the >end >and the hard drive light stays on.


Run ‘fdisk /dev/hd0’ and verify that the QNX partition is
set >as >> >> bootable.
The Boot column should have a ‘*’ in the QNX 4 row (type
77).

Done. I also tried dinit -hb /dev/hd0t77 and fdisk
/dev/hd0 >>> > > > loader >> > boot qnx



Regards,

Joe

Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
Hi Joe

In article <9g52sc$sde$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > hw@qnx.com
(Hardware >>> > > Support >Account) wrote:

Hi Paul,

If the QNX partition crosses 1024 cylinders it will
not >>> > > > > boot, it >>> > must >start
and end before this limit.

The QNX Partition does not cross the 1024 cylinder limit


Try booting with a QNX 4 boot disk and set the root
directory to >be >the >primary
partition (on hard disk) using the prefix command.

ex: /hd0/bin/prefix -R /=/hd0

Now try installing the Patch.

Done I even have photon running which was a surprise as
the >>> > > trident >chipset does not appear to be
supported >by Photon 2.


Dosfsys will only work with FAT16 partitions, you will
need >to >> > > use >>> Fatfsys to
access a FAT32 partition.

I also got this working but only to a few directories
deep. I >>> > > really >need to concentrate on it but I
more >concerned with >not >> > > being able to >boot.


Regards,

Joe

Thanks for getting back to me.



Paul McCormack <> mccormp@mislimited.co.uk> > wrote:
I am having major problems booting QNX4 on my laptop.

I have three partitions

1 QNX4.25A - hd0t77 - This is in the first 1.5 gig
of >the >drive >>> > > and I >can boot from a floppy,
mount the >drive >and see the >>> > > installation
no >problem.

3 Extended DOS partition hd0t12 FAT drive. This is
in >the >last >>> > > 3.5gig >of the drive. I can see it
as >drive D in >windows 98 and >can >mount it
using >Dosfsys when I try to >write to it says the
drive is >full.

4 Primary Win98 hd0t15 boots from the QNX bootloader
no >>> > > > > > problem.

I have tried several times to rewrite the secondary
boot >loader >>> > > but >with no change.

I thought it may have been that I needed patch E and
as >it >had >>> >> > fatfsys i tried to mount the
extended FAT >>> > > > > > partition to mount it.

I have loaded QNX RTP and tried to use that to copy
the >>> > > > > > patch >to >the >QNX 4 partition. RTP
mounts the partitions >>> > > > > > but I cannot >write
to the >hd0t77. I can read it but it >>> > > > > > says
its full when I >try to >copy to it.

How do I get the patch from my FAT32/FAT extended
partition to >the >>> > QNX partition and then how to I
get >the QNX partition >to boot.

I cannot change the drive translation in bios
because >its >a >> >> > > Toshiba >laptop and I dont have
the option >so I >stuck with >1024
cylinders.

Paul










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