Newbie License Problem

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Ya gotta love this:

I have inherited a QNX 4.25, Photon 1.13, Watcomm C 10.6 project which is
about 80% complete. Other Software Engineers are either new or deep into
their applications to help. I worked on UNIX about 10 years ago. They tell
me I am the new QNX administrator.

More fun:

We are running QNX on a proprietory platform which does not normally have a
CD ROM, Floppy, or network connection. For development, we are connected to
a Windows network using Samba software. About 7 systems have been set up
previous to my arival and I suspect they were loaded at different times by
different people with little concern for consistency.

We will be adding riggor to the administration of these platforms but I do
have a problem which is perplexing.

Problem:
On some systems, I intermittently encounter a no license message after
running and terminating our application. This applies to the Watcom C and
the Photon Application Builder. I am forced to shutdown to continue
development. I would blame the application code but on some systems no
problems occur.

I have compared the /etc/config/sysinit and /etc/hosts files and found no
actual differences. As I was told, there is no QNX networking for remote
licensing. The affected systems still fail when disconnected from the
network. I have tried to refresh licences from disk with the license
command but that did not help.

The failing systems all appear not to be using any licenses. A “licinfo -a”
command always shows zero licenses in use on the failing systems before and
after the problem. The same command shows the expected licenses used on the
non failing systems.

As a note, the QNX license seems to never be used on either types of
systems.

On a failing system the following licenses were installed.
New licenses: phab phrt phrt wcc
Old licenses: qnx qnx tcprt tcprt

TIA
Jan

–
Jan Stefan
Software Engineer

jstefan@minnetronix.com
www.minnetronix.com

Minnetronix Inc.
1635 Energy Park Drive
St. Paul, MN 55108

phone: (651) 917-4060 ext. 256

2

Jan,
make sure that ‘nameloc’ utility is running…

Jan Stefan wrote:

Ya gotta love this:

I have inherited a QNX 4.25, Photon 1.13, Watcomm C 10.6 project which is
about 80% complete. Other Software Engineers are either new or deep into
their applications to help. I worked on UNIX about 10 years ago. They tell
me I am the new QNX administrator.

More fun:

We are running QNX on a proprietory platform which does not normally have a
CD ROM, Floppy, or network connection. For development, we are connected to
a Windows network using Samba software. About 7 systems have been set up
previous to my arival and I suspect they were loaded at different times by
different people with little concern for consistency.

We will be adding riggor to the administration of these platforms but I do
have a problem which is perplexing.

Problem:
On some systems, I intermittently encounter a no license message after
running and terminating our application. This applies to the Watcom C and
the Photon Application Builder. I am forced to shutdown to continue
development. I would blame the application code but on some systems no
problems occur.

I have compared the /etc/config/sysinit and /etc/hosts files and found no
actual differences. As I was told, there is no QNX networking for remote
licensing. The affected systems still fail when disconnected from the
network. I have tried to refresh licences from disk with the license
command but that did not help.

The failing systems all appear not to be using any licenses. A “licinfo -a”
command always shows zero licenses in use on the failing systems before and
after the problem. The same command shows the expected licenses used on the
non failing systems.

As a note, the QNX license seems to never be used on either types of
systems.

On a failing system the following licenses were installed.
New licenses: phab phrt phrt wcc
Old licenses: qnx qnx tcprt tcprt

TIA
Jan

–
Jan Stefan
Software Engineer

jstefan@minnetronix.com
www.minnetronix.com

Minnetronix Inc.
1635 Energy Park Drive
St. Paul, MN 55108

phone: (651) 917-4060 ext. 256

–
Best regards,
Alexander Koppel

///Data Kinetics Ltd.
QNX Training and Consulting (http://www.dkl.com)

3

I have 2 nameloc processes, one blocked on RECV the other blocked on REPLY.

Both appear the same before and after the license problem occurs.

Any more ideas?

thanks
Jan

Alexander Koppel <akoppel@dkl.com> wrote in
news:3B8FE053.C015B6C3@dkl.com:

Jan,
make sure that ‘nameloc’ utility is running…

Jan Stefan wrote:
…

Problem:
On some systems, I intermittently encounter a no license message after
running and terminating our application. This applies to the Watcom C
and the Photon Application Builder. I am forced to shutdown to
continue development. I would blame the application code but on some
systems no problems occur.

I have compared the /etc/config/sysinit and /etc/hosts files and found
no actual differences. As I was told, there is no QNX networking for
remote licensing. The affected systems still fail when disconnected
from the network. I have tried to refresh licences from disk with the
license command but that did not help.

The failing systems all appear not to be using any licenses. A
“licinfo -a” command always shows zero licenses in use on the failing
systems before and after the problem. The same command shows the
expected licenses used on the non failing systems.

As a note, the QNX license seems to never be used on either types of
systems.

On a failing system the following licenses were installed.
New licenses: phab phrt phrt wcc
Old licenses: qnx qnx tcprt tcprt

TIA
Jan

–
Jan Stefan
Software Engineer

jstefan@minnetronix.com > > www.minnetronix.com

Minnetronix Inc.
1635 Energy Park Drive
St. Paul, MN 55108

phone: (651) 917-4060 ext. 256

–
Jan Stefan
Software Engineer

jstefan@minnetronix.com
www.minnetronix.com

Minnetronix Inc.
1635 Energy Park Drive
St. Paul, MN 55108

phone: (651) 917-4060 ext. 256

4

“Jan Stefan” <jstefan@minnetronix.com> wrote in message
news:Xns911FA1431F04Eminetronixcomjstefan@209.226.137.7…

I have 2 nameloc processes, one blocked on RECV the other blocked on
REPLY.

Both appear the same before and after the license problem occurs.

Any more ideas?

It’s normal that licinfo alway shows 0 a used QNX licenses (don’t
know why though)

Boot both computers disconnected from each other. Can they both
run their stuff without complaining about the licenses?

Do you have a netmap? Is it the same on a all machines?


thanks
Jan

Alexander Koppel <> akoppel@dkl.com> > wrote in
news:> 3B8FE053.C015B6C3@dkl.com> :

Jan,
make sure that ‘nameloc’ utility is running…

Jan Stefan wrote:
…

Problem:
On some systems, I intermittently encounter a no license message after
running and terminating our application. This applies to the Watcom C
and the Photon Application Builder. I am forced to shutdown to
continue development. I would blame the application code but on some
systems no problems occur.

I have compared the /etc/config/sysinit and /etc/hosts files and found
no actual differences. As I was told, there is no QNX networking for
remote licensing. The affected systems still fail when disconnected
from the network. I have tried to refresh licences from disk with the
license command but that did not help.

The failing systems all appear not to be using any licenses. A
“licinfo -a” command always shows zero licenses in use on the failing
systems before and after the problem. The same command shows the
expected licenses used on the non failing systems.

As a note, the QNX license seems to never be used on either types of
systems.

On a failing system the following licenses were installed.
New licenses: phab phrt phrt wcc
Old licenses: qnx qnx tcprt tcprt

TIA
Jan

–
Jan Stefan
Software Engineer

jstefan@minnetronix.com > > www.minnetronix.com

Minnetronix Inc.
1635 Energy Park Drive
St. Paul, MN 55108

phone: (651) 917-4060 ext. 256



\

Jan Stefan
Software Engineer

jstefan@minnetronix.com
www.minnetronix.com

Minnetronix Inc.
1635 Energy Park Drive
St. Paul, MN 55108

phone: (651) 917-4060 ext. 256

5

When disconnected from the Windows network, licenced products work the same
way as they do as when connected.

There is a difference with the netmap command. When both are connected to
the Windows network, the netmap command on my failing workstation(Node 7)
shows only the header labels and no data.

The good workststion(Node 2) shows:
Logical Lan Physical Tx count
2 1 00C06C 04009C ; 0

Both /etc/config/netmap files have one line which is “one-to-one”.

Could it have something to do with only having 2 licences installed on
Node7? They say that we have 8 licences and yet I never see more than 2 on
a workstation. The workstations seem not to be in a QNX network but the
names are unique to allow them to coexist in the Windows network.


Thanks again,
Jan

“Mario Charest” <mcharest@nowayzinformatic.com> wrote in
news:9o780d$ab3$1@inn.qnx.com:

“Jan Stefan” <> jstefan@minnetronix.com> > wrote in message
news:Xns911FA1431F04Eminetronixcomjstefan@209.226.137.7…
I have 2 nameloc processes, one blocked on RECV the other blocked on
REPLY.

Both appear the same before and after the license problem occurs.

Any more ideas?


It’s normal that licinfo alway shows 0 a used QNX licenses (don’t
know why though)

Boot both computers disconnected from each other. Can they both
run their stuff without complaining about the licenses?

Do you have a netmap? Is it the same on a all machines?


thanks
Jan

Jan Stefan wrote:
…

Problem:
On some systems, I intermittently encounter a no license message
after running and terminating our application. This applies to the
Watcom C and the Photon Application Builder. I am forced to
shutdown to continue development. I would blame the application
code but on some systems no problems occur.

I have compared the /etc/config/sysinit and /etc/hosts files and
found no actual differences. As I was told, there is no QNX
networking for remote licensing. The affected systems still fail
when disconnected from the network. I have tried to refresh
licences from disk with the license command but that did not help.

The failing systems all appear not to be using any licenses. A
“licinfo -a” command always shows zero licenses in use on the
failing systems before and after the problem. The same command
shows the expected licenses used on the non failing systems.

As a note, the QNX license seems to never be used on either types
of systems.

On a failing system the following licenses were installed.
New licenses: phab phrt phrt wcc
Old licenses: qnx qnx tcprt tcprt

TIA
Jan

–
Jan Stefan
Software Engineer

jstefan@minnetronix.com
www.minnetronix.com

Minnetronix Inc.
1635 Energy Park Drive
St. Paul, MN 55108

phone: (651) 917-4060 ext. 256

6

“Jan Stefan” <jstefan@minnetronix.com> wrote in message
news:Xns91218A4FB3E79minetronixcomjstefan@209.226.137.7…

When disconnected from the Windows network, licenced products work the
same
way as they do as when connected.

There is a difference with the netmap command. When both are connected to
the Windows network, the netmap command on my failing workstation(Node 7)
shows only the header labels and no data.


The good workststion(Node 2) shows:
Logical Lan Physical Tx count
2 1 00C06C 04009C ; 0

Both /etc/config/netmap files have one line which is “one-to-one”.

Then your two machines cannot talk to each other, in a sense it’s
like they are never connected together. Only TCP/IP will work.

Could it have something to do with only having 2 licences installed on
Node7?

YES, you need to have at least 7 licenses on the node 7 if you wish
to interact with node 2 and node 2 must have at least 7 licenses has well.


They say that we have 8 licences and yet I never see more than 2 on
a workstation. The workstations seem not to be in a QNX network but the
names are unique to allow them to coexist in the Windows network.

QNX supports two different networking technologies, one is call FLEET.
It’s proprietairy to QNX. The other is method is TCP/IP, that is what
can allow communication with internet and windows machine. Both
network protocal are totaly independant. If TCP/IP isn’t install
QNX doesn’t know or see the data from Windows machines,

Licensing uses FLEET not TCP/IP.

Because there is not netmap data you don’t have a working QNX network.
QNX networking only uses number to identify nodes and not names.
The node number is irrelavant to windows…

Can you post the output of licinfo -a of both nodes?

Thanks again,
Jan

“Mario Charest” <> mcharest@nowayzinformatic.com> > wrote in
news:9o780d$ab3$> 1@inn.qnx.com> :


“Jan Stefan” <> jstefan@minnetronix.com> > wrote in message
news:Xns911FA1431F04Eminetronixcomjstefan@209.226.137.7…
I have 2 nameloc processes, one blocked on RECV the other blocked on
REPLY.

Both appear the same before and after the license problem occurs.

Any more ideas?


It’s normal that licinfo alway shows 0 a used QNX licenses (don’t
know why though)

Boot both computers disconnected from each other. Can they both
run their stuff without complaining about the licenses?

Do you have a netmap? Is it the same on a all machines?


thanks
Jan

Jan Stefan wrote:
…

Problem:
On some systems, I intermittently encounter a no license message
after running and terminating our application. This applies to the
Watcom C and the Photon Application Builder. I am forced to
shutdown to continue development. I would blame the application
code but on some systems no problems occur.

I have compared the /etc/config/sysinit and /etc/hosts files and
found no actual differences. As I was told, there is no QNX
networking for remote licensing. The affected systems still fail
when disconnected from the network. I have tried to refresh
licences from disk with the license command but that did not help.

The failing systems all appear not to be using any licenses. A
“licinfo -a” command always shows zero licenses in use on the
failing systems before and after the problem. The same command
shows the expected licenses used on the non failing systems.

As a note, the QNX license seems to never be used on either types
of systems.

On a failing system the following licenses were installed.
New licenses: phab phrt phrt wcc
Old licenses: qnx qnx tcprt tcprt

TIA
Jan



\

Jan Stefan
Software Engineer

jstefan@minnetronix.com
www.minnetronix.com

Minnetronix Inc.
1635 Energy Park Drive
St. Paul, MN 55108

phone: (651) 917-4060 ext. 256