TCP/IP Oddities

Hi,
I just picked up a copy of the RTP from the web site. Downloaded the ISO
image, burned the CD, and installed to an empty system. I have a bit of a
problem tho. It seems I can’t connect the thing to my network. I
origionally had a Netgear FA310TX PCI card in, but that didn’t seem to work
well. Knowing the problems I’ve had with these cards under linux, I figured
I’d try something else to make sure it wasn’t the card. Put a 3Com 509 ISA
card in, but I get the same results. The network interface seems to come up
(the light comes on on the switch), but I can’t ping or be pinged. I also
cannot seem to get a DHCP address. I’ve checked the wire with another
known-good config, and it seems to work. Just can’t get this system
on-line. Also, I have to do the io0net -del509 -pttcpip before I will even
get a “devices” tab in phlip. Shouldn’t the system pick up the card and
start it automatically? Anyway, I might just be missing something here, so
if anyone has any pointers…

Thnx,
Mike Menefee

I origionally had a Netgear FA310TX PCI card in, but that didn’t seem to
work
well. Knowing the problems I’ve had with these cards under linux, I
figured
I’d try something else to make sure it wasn’t the card. Put a 3Com 509 ISA
card in, but I get the same results.

I have two of the Netgear cards, they have worked great for me in linux,
windows, beos and qnx. Maybe other hardware is causing the problem.

The network interface seems to come up
(the light comes on on the switch), but I can’t ping or be pinged. I also
cannot seem to get a DHCP address. I’ve checked the wire with another
known-good config, and it seems to work. Just can’t get this system
on-line. Also, I have to do the io0net -del509 -pttcpip before I will
even
get a “devices” tab in phlip.

Try runing nettrap, it will try to detect a network card and tell you if it
found one. If it can’t detect the card, then forcing io-net to use your
network card probably won’t do any good because it can’t find it either. I
would try to change some bios settings or update your bios, while checking
nettrap to see if it detects it. Tell us what hardware you are using and
someone might know if it has problems with qnx.

Shouldn’t the system pick up the card and
start it automatically?

Yes it does. Qnx RTP runs the enum-devices program to look for your
hardware, it’s called in the /etc/rc.d/rc.devices script. The enum-devices
program will try and detect all the network hardware listed in the
/etc/system/enum/devices/net file.

<mikem@mnetwork.org.remove.this> wrote in message
news:8rbhja$rds$2@inn.qnx.com

Hi,
I just picked up a copy of the RTP from the web site. Downloaded the ISO
image, burned the CD, and installed to an empty system. I have a bit of a
problem tho. It seems I can’t connect the thing to my network. I
origionally had a Netgear FA310TX PCI card in, but that didn’t seem to
work
well. Knowing the problems I’ve had with these cards under linux, I
figured
I’d try something else to make sure it wasn’t the card. Put a 3Com 509
ISA
card in, but I get the same results. The network interface seems to come
up
(the light comes on on the switch), but I can’t ping or be pinged. I also
cannot seem to get a DHCP address. I’ve checked the wire with another
known-good config, and it seems to work. Just can’t get this system
on-line. Also, I have to do the io0net -del509 -pttcpip before I will
even
get a “devices” tab in phlip. Shouldn’t the system pick up the card and
start it automatically? Anyway, I might just be missing something here,
so
if anyone has any pointers…

Thnx,
Mike Menefee

mikem@mnetwork.org.remove.this wrote:

Hi,
I just picked up a copy of the RTP from the web site. Downloaded the ISO
image, burned the CD, and installed to an empty system. I have a bit of a
problem tho. It seems I can’t connect the thing to my network. I
origionally had a Netgear FA310TX PCI card in, but that didn’t seem to work
well. Knowing the problems I’ve had with these cards under linux, I figured
I’d try something else to make sure it wasn’t the card. Put a 3Com 509 ISA
card in, but I get the same results. The network interface seems to come up
(the light comes on on the switch), but I can’t ping or be pinged. I also
cannot seem to get a DHCP address. I’ve checked the wire with another
known-good config, and it seems to work. Just can’t get this system
on-line. Also, I have to do the io0net -del509 -pttcpip before I will even
get a “devices” tab in phlip. Shouldn’t the system pick up the card and
start it automatically? Anyway, I might just be missing something here, so
if anyone has any pointers…

Can you post the output of:
pidin ar | grep io-net
pci -v
cat /etc/net.cfg
nicinfo

with both each card in?

Chris

Thnx,
Mike Menefee

Quix wrote in message <8rc0uo$60l$1@inn.qnx.com>…

I have two of the Netgear cards, they have worked great for me in linux,
windows, beos and qnx. Maybe other hardware is causing the problem.

Wouldn’t happen to know the revision of the cards, would ya? At some point
Netgear changed the chip they used on the card from a real DEC chip to a
“Netgear” branded chip, which is identified by the Linux Tulip driver as a
Lite-On PNIC. Thing is, this particular chip isn’t entirely compatible with
the Tulip driver… It might have been fixed (the driver), but I took the
card out just in case, as I didn’t know what version of Tulip QNX put in…

Try runing nettrap, it will try to detect a network card and tell you if it
found one. If it can’t detect the card, then forcing io-net to use your
network card probably won’t do any good because it can’t find it either. I
would try to change some bios settings or update your bios, while checking
nettrap to see if it detects it. Tell us what hardware you are using and
someone might know if it has problems with qnx.

nettrap picks it up as an el509… comp is just a standard P2-400 w/ 128 MB
and a 3 gig disk. Has a Creative TNT video card…

Yes it does. Qnx RTP runs the enum-devices program to look for your
hardware, it’s called in the /etc/rc.d/rc.devices script. The enum-devices
program will try and detect all the network hardware listed in the
/etc/system/enum/devices/net file.

Hmm… so why would nettrap pick it up, and not enum-devices?

Thnx,
Mike Menefee

(note, just for the heck of it, I also tossed an Intel etherexpress card
into the mix…)

Can you post the output of:
pidin ar | grep io-net
pci -v
cat /etc/net.cfg
nicinfo

okay, I started all these cards with io-net -d[drivername] -pttcpip
if=en0:172.16.8.40:255.255.0.0

eepro (etherexpress 10+ ISA)
nettrap - eeNettrap.nfo
pidin ar | grep io-net - eePidin.nfo
pci -v - eePci.nfo
cat /etc/net.cfg - eeNet.nfo
nicinfo - eeNicinfo.nfo

el509:(EtherLink 509B-TPO)
nettrap - el509Nettrap.nfo
pidin ar | grep io-net - el509Pidin.nfo
pci -v - el509Pci.nfo
cat /etc/net.cfg - el509Net.nfo
nicinfo - el509Nicinfo.nfo

tulip (netgear FA310TX)
(something interesting here… now, it is picking up the card on startup.
However, trying to get a DHCP addie or ping an external address results in
the system locking up hard…)
nettrap - tulipNettrap.nfo
pidin ar | grep io-net - tulipPidin.nfo
pci -v - tulipPci.nfo
cat /etc/net.cfg - tulipNet.nfo
nicinfo - tulipNicinfo.nfo

Mike Menefee


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I had problems with Netgear Cards… It has been a little while, but as I
recall, they changed from a Tulip Chip to LiteOn. I got on the RTP beta and
they did not support the Netgear at first so I switched to an SMC card and
everything autodetected. The developers at QNX have a “thing” For SMC,
Corman, and ATI. Most devices from these vendors work VERY well under QNX.

Duane


“Quix” <quix@kc.rr.com> wrote in message news:8rc0uo$60l$1@inn.qnx.com

I origionally had a Netgear FA310TX PCI card in, but that didn’t seem to
work
well. Knowing the problems I’ve had with these cards under linux, I
figured
I’d try something else to make sure it wasn’t the card. Put a 3Com 509
ISA
card in, but I get the same results.

I have two of the Netgear cards, they have worked great for me in linux,
windows, beos and qnx. Maybe other hardware is causing the problem.

The network interface seems to come up
(the light comes on on the switch), but I can’t ping or be pinged. I
also
cannot seem to get a DHCP address. I’ve checked the wire with another
known-good config, and it seems to work. Just can’t get this system
on-line. Also, I have to do the io0net -del509 -pttcpip before I will
even
get a “devices” tab in phlip.

Try runing nettrap, it will try to detect a network card and tell you if
it
found one. If it can’t detect the card, then forcing io-net to use your
network card probably won’t do any good because it can’t find it either. I
would try to change some bios settings or update your bios, while checking
nettrap to see if it detects it. Tell us what hardware you are using and
someone might know if it has problems with qnx.

Shouldn’t the system pick up the card and
start it automatically?

Yes it does. Qnx RTP runs the enum-devices program to look for your
hardware, it’s called in the /etc/rc.d/rc.devices script. The enum-devices
program will try and detect all the network hardware listed in the
/etc/system/enum/devices/net file.

mikem@mnetwork.org.remove.this> > wrote in message
news:8rbhja$rds$> 2@inn.qnx.com> …
Hi,
I just picked up a copy of the RTP from the web site. Downloaded the
ISO
image, burned the CD, and installed to an empty system. I have a bit of
a
problem tho. It seems I can’t connect the thing to my network. I
origionally had a Netgear FA310TX PCI card in, but that didn’t seem to
work
well. Knowing the problems I’ve had with these cards under linux, I
figured
I’d try something else to make sure it wasn’t the card. Put a 3Com 509
ISA
card in, but I get the same results. The network interface seems to
come
up
(the light comes on on the switch), but I can’t ping or be pinged. I
also
cannot seem to get a DHCP address. I’ve checked the wire with another
known-good config, and it seems to work. Just can’t get this system
on-line. Also, I have to do the io0net -del509 -pttcpip before I will
even
get a “devices” tab in phlip. Shouldn’t the system pick up the card and
start it automatically? Anyway, I might just be missing something here,
so
if anyone has any pointers…

Thnx,
Mike Menefee
\

Chris McKillop has new tulip driver on his personal web page which
should support LiteOn chips.

DHS wrote:

I had problems with Netgear Cards… It has been a little while, but as I
recall, they changed from a Tulip Chip to LiteOn. I got on the RTP beta and
they did not support the Netgear at first so I switched to an SMC card and
everything autodetected. The developers at QNX have a “thing” For SMC,
Corman, and ATI. Most devices from these vendors work VERY well under QNX.

Duane

“Quix” <> quix@kc.rr.com> > wrote in message news:8rc0uo$60l$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
I origionally had a Netgear FA310TX PCI card in, but that didn’t seem to
work
well. Knowing the problems I’ve had with these cards under linux, I
figured
I’d try something else to make sure it wasn’t the card. Put a 3Com 509
ISA
card in, but I get the same results.

I have two of the Netgear cards, they have worked great for me in linux,
windows, beos and qnx. Maybe other hardware is causing the problem.

The network interface seems to come up
(the light comes on on the switch), but I can’t ping or be pinged. I
also
cannot seem to get a DHCP address. I’ve checked the wire with another
known-good config, and it seems to work. Just can’t get this system
on-line. Also, I have to do the io0net -del509 -pttcpip before I will
even
get a “devices” tab in phlip.

Try runing nettrap, it will try to detect a network card and tell you if
it
found one. If it can’t detect the card, then forcing io-net to use your
network card probably won’t do any good because it can’t find it either. I
would try to change some bios settings or update your bios, while checking
nettrap to see if it detects it. Tell us what hardware you are using and
someone might know if it has problems with qnx.

Shouldn’t the system pick up the card and
start it automatically?

Yes it does. Qnx RTP runs the enum-devices program to look for your
hardware, it’s called in the /etc/rc.d/rc.devices script. The enum-devices
program will try and detect all the network hardware listed in the
/etc/system/enum/devices/net file.

mikem@mnetwork.org.remove.this> > wrote in message
news:8rbhja$rds$> 2@inn.qnx.com> …
Hi,
I just picked up a copy of the RTP from the web site. Downloaded the
ISO
image, burned the CD, and installed to an empty system. I have a bit of
a
problem tho. It seems I can’t connect the thing to my network. I
origionally had a Netgear FA310TX PCI card in, but that didn’t seem to
work
well. Knowing the problems I’ve had with these cards under linux, I
figured
I’d try something else to make sure it wasn’t the card. Put a 3Com 509
ISA
card in, but I get the same results. The network interface seems to
come
up
(the light comes on on the switch), but I can’t ping or be pinged. I
also
cannot seem to get a DHCP address. I’ve checked the wire with another
known-good config, and it seems to work. Just can’t get this system
on-line. Also, I have to do the io0net -del509 -pttcpip before I will
even
get a “devices” tab in phlip. Shouldn’t the system pick up the card and
start it automatically? Anyway, I might just be missing something here,
so
if anyone has any pointers…

Thnx,
Mike Menefee
\

Corman cards didn’t work that well when I first used them. Neither QNX or
Corman support full duplex on the Corman 10/100 card. When I was trying to work
it, Corman and QSSL must have been having some kind of debate on who should
write the driver for the card, as a rep at Corman told me I should use the QNX
driver. Later Corman came out with a driver that supported full Duplex. So I
guess the lesson is, there are growing pains with any 1.0 version. The FA310TX
worked very well for us after struggles with Corman cards, and 3COM 3c905B
cards.

Scott

DHS wrote:

I had problems with Netgear Cards… It has been a little while, but as I
recall, they changed from a Tulip Chip to LiteOn. I got on the RTP beta and
they did not support the Netgear at first so I switched to an SMC card and
everything autodetected. The developers at QNX have a “thing” For SMC,
Corman, and ATI. Most devices from these vendors work VERY well under QNX.

Duane

“Quix” <> quix@kc.rr.com> > wrote in message news:8rc0uo$60l$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
I origionally had a Netgear FA310TX PCI card in, but that didn’t seem to
work
well. Knowing the problems I’ve had with these cards under linux, I
figured
I’d try something else to make sure it wasn’t the card. Put a 3Com 509
ISA
card in, but I get the same results.

I have two of the Netgear cards, they have worked great for me in linux,
windows, beos and qnx. Maybe other hardware is causing the problem.

The network interface seems to come up
(the light comes on on the switch), but I can’t ping or be pinged. I
also
cannot seem to get a DHCP address. I’ve checked the wire with another
known-good config, and it seems to work. Just can’t get this system
on-line. Also, I have to do the io0net -del509 -pttcpip before I will
even
get a “devices” tab in phlip.

Try runing nettrap, it will try to detect a network card and tell you if
it
found one. If it can’t detect the card, then forcing io-net to use your
network card probably won’t do any good because it can’t find it either. I
would try to change some bios settings or update your bios, while checking
nettrap to see if it detects it. Tell us what hardware you are using and
someone might know if it has problems with qnx.

Shouldn’t the system pick up the card and
start it automatically?

Yes it does. Qnx RTP runs the enum-devices program to look for your
hardware, it’s called in the /etc/rc.d/rc.devices script. The enum-devices
program will try and detect all the network hardware listed in the
/etc/system/enum/devices/net file.

mikem@mnetwork.org.remove.this> > wrote in message
news:8rbhja$rds$> 2@inn.qnx.com> …
Hi,
I just picked up a copy of the RTP from the web site. Downloaded the
ISO
image, burned the CD, and installed to an empty system. I have a bit of
a
problem tho. It seems I can’t connect the thing to my network. I
origionally had a Netgear FA310TX PCI card in, but that didn’t seem to
work
well. Knowing the problems I’ve had with these cards under linux, I
figured
I’d try something else to make sure it wasn’t the card. Put a 3Com 509
ISA
card in, but I get the same results. The network interface seems to
come
up
(the light comes on on the switch), but I can’t ping or be pinged. I
also
cannot seem to get a DHCP address. I’ve checked the wire with another
known-good config, and it seems to work. Just can’t get this system
on-line. Also, I have to do the io0net -del509 -pttcpip before I will
even
get a “devices” tab in phlip. Shouldn’t the system pick up the card and
start it automatically? Anyway, I might just be missing something here,
so
if anyone has any pointers…

Thnx,
Mike Menefee
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