Is it possible to play DVD’s on the MediaPlayer? I see that there is a
selection for it but it is currently disabled.
Garth Gaddy
Hello Garth,
Garth Gaddy <garth.gaddy@ci.fresno.ca.us> wrote:
Is it possible to play DVD’s on the MediaPlayer? I see that there is a
selection for it but it is currently disabled.
This is unsupported (licensing issues) at this time and this information was
found in the Knowledge base at:
http://qdn.qnx.com, by searching on “dvd” you found the following
issue:
http://support.qnx.com/support/bok/solution.qnx?10087
Garth Gaddy
Regards,
Marcin
I have seen the info you refer to, but the reason I asked was that I
attended a 1/2 day seminar the QNX folks put on in San Jose (among other
places) and the trainer indicated that playing DVD’s was possible. Was this
just sales talk meaning that it was a future thing?
Garth Gaddy
Marcin Dzieciol wrote in message <91oftq$3rs$1@nntp.qnx.com>…
Hello Garth,
Garth Gaddy <> garth.gaddy@ci.fresno.ca.us> > wrote:
Is it possible to play DVD’s on the MediaPlayer? I see that there is a
selection for it but it is currently disabled.This is unsupported (licensing issues) at this time and this information
was
found in the Knowledge base at:
http://qdn.qnx.com> , by searching on “dvd” you found the following
issue:
http://support.qnx.com/support/bok/solution.qnx?10087Garth Gaddy
Regards,
Marcin
“Garth Gaddy” <garth.gaddy@ci.fresno.ca.us> wrote in message
news:91otvd$jj8$1@inn.qnx.com…
I have seen the info you refer to, but the reason I asked was that I
attended a 1/2 day seminar the QNX folks put on in San Jose (among other
places) and the trainer indicated that playing DVD’s was possible. Was
this
just sales talk meaning that it was a future thing?
It’s technically possible (i.e. there is a software DVD player for RtP)
but it is not legally possible (i.e. the DVD gods - i.e. the entertainment
companies - won’t let QSSL ship it). I suspect that QSSL tells as many
people as they can that they have a DVD player but can’t ship it due to
licensing issues (i.e. it is the entertainment companies that are screwing
us over, not QSSL).
John Doe wrote:
“Garth Gaddy” <> garth.gaddy@ci.fresno.ca.us> > wrote in message
news:91otvd$jj8$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
I have seen the info you refer to, but the reason I asked was that I
attended a 1/2 day seminar the QNX folks put on in San Jose (among other
places) and the trainer indicated that playing DVD’s was possible. Was
this
just sales talk meaning that it was a future thing?It’s technically possible (i.e. there is a software DVD player for RtP)
but it is not legally possible (i.e. the DVD gods - i.e. the entertainment
companies - won’t let QSSL ship it). I suspect that QSSL tells as many
people as they can that they have a DVD player but can’t ship it due to
licensing issues (i.e. it is the entertainment companies that are screwing
us over, not QSSL).
I don’t think entertainment companies are screwing us. After all it is
their interest to have more people watching their production. Legal
isues must be resolved though and that might be a problem, especially
when proper attention is not paid at right time (which I suspect is the
case).
The software was ready about a year ago, if not more. Hard to understand
what takes so long on legal front. Same story with CDDB support in CD
player.
- igor
“Igor Kovalenko” <Igor.Kovalenko@motorola.com> wrote in message
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John Doe wrote:
“Garth Gaddy” <> garth.gaddy@ci.fresno.ca.us> > wrote in message
news:91otvd$jj8$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
I have seen the info you refer to, but the reason I asked was that I
attended a 1/2 day seminar the QNX folks put on in San Jose (among
other
places) and the trainer indicated that playing DVD’s was possible.
Was
this
just sales talk meaning that it was a future thing?It’s technically possible (i.e. there is a software DVD player for
RtP)
but it is not legally possible (i.e. the DVD gods - i.e. the
entertainment
companies - won’t let QSSL ship it). I suspect that QSSL tells as many
people as they can that they have a DVD player but can’t ship it due to
licensing issues (i.e. it is the entertainment companies that are
screwing
us over, not QSSL).I don’t think entertainment companies are screwing us. After all it is
their interest to have more people watching their production. Legal
isues must be resolved though and that might be a problem, especially
when proper attention is not paid at right time (which I suspect is the
case).
I didn’t say they weren’t screwing themselves as well as “us” (i.e. users of
non windows platforms). When they realize that they are screwing themselves
also; then I expect the legal issues will be resolved quickly…
John Doe <john@csical.com> wrote:
I don’t think entertainment companies are screwing us. After all it is
their interest to have more people watching their production. Legal
isues must be resolved though and that might be a problem, especially
when proper attention is not paid at right time (which I suspect is the
case).
It’s only in the entertainment companies interest to have more people
watching their productions if they get more revenue as a result.
I don’t think it’s the people who want to sell DVD’s that are causing any
problems, but the people who may own patents on the technology who want
to make sure they get their nickel.
In article <91t7ss$rnp$1@nntp.qnx.com>, <pete@qnx.com> wrote:
John Doe <> john@csical.com> > wrote:
I don’t think entertainment companies are screwing us. After all it is
their interest to have more people watching their production. Legal
isues must be resolved though and that might be a problem, especially
when proper attention is not paid at right time (which I suspect is the
case).It’s only in the entertainment companies interest to have more people
watching their productions if they get more revenue as a result.I don’t think it’s the people who want to sell DVD’s that are causing any
problems, but the people who may own patents on the technology who want
to make sure they get their nickel.
This isn’t an official statement, and I’m not sure what the exact issue
is at the moment, but I don’t believe it’s royalties – since there are
patent pool licenses that take care of that. The copy protection scheme
for DVD is a concern, and the holders of the technology protect it as a trade
secret and are careful about all implementations – they must be certified,
and software implementations are discouraged, as is any decoded digital
output, to avoid possibility of the protection scheme being subverted
or circumvented. So it’s really about the content providers trying to
prevent piracy.
Face it. People who want to watch a DVD on a PC are vastly outnumbered
by those who own a DVD player, so piracy concerns outweigh a few possible
lost sales in the minds of the players here.
Steve Furr email: furr@qnx.com
QNX Software Systems, Ltd.
“Steve Furr” <furr@qnx.com> wrote in message
news:91trrk$9jd$1@nntp.qnx.com…
In article <91t7ss$rnp$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, <> pete@qnx.com> > wrote:
Face it. People who want to watch a DVD on a PC are vastly outnumbered
by those who own a DVD player, so piracy concerns outweigh a few possible
lost sales in the minds of the players here.
True. But what the recording (motion picture and music) people don’t
realize is that by not licensing the technology to a bona-fide company like
QSSL is that it only encourages hacks for which they have no control. In
addition people tend to have no remorse (and, in fact, have some degree of
legal right for their behavior) when no licensed decoder is available for
your playback hardware (PC). Try to convince a judge that somebody is
harming you by renting your DVD and using an unlicensed decoder to view it,
only because you refuse to license the decoder to that party. Of course,
you could go after the entity responsible for creating the unlicensed
decoder (if you can find them), but certainly not the user of the decoder.
What we need is for some RtP users from a non-signitory nation (intl
copyright treaty) to make a DVD decoder for RtP.
So anyway it is indeed the content providers who are screwing both QSSL
and their customers (in addition to many other companies and their customers
I suspect). My solution; find a good cable public access show record that,
and boycott the major studios 
I haven’t personally tried it, but I saw on the QNX WWW site that they
intend to release a patch for QNX RTP in the near future that will add
addition multimedia capabilites…not sure when though.
Chris
Garth Gaddy <garth.gaddy@ci.fresno.ca.us> wrote in message
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Is it possible to play DVD’s on the MediaPlayer? I see that there is a
selection for it but it is currently disabled.Garth Gaddy
Well pointed out,
The more you resist ther grass roots desire to use
somthing the more hackers come to the rescue !!
Somewhere in my archives of surfing around the net I came across a dvd
ripper for linux,
Then heard the software was being hunted down by the fops of the
entertainment industry.
Just out of spite I downloaded the proggy but remember one thing,
It only worked with a particular “kernel” by linux.
At the time and still am now, I was a newbe to unix, linux, and other non-
MS OS’s.
And could never get the thing installed right.
I can assure you making that proggy work in qnx would take quite a hack.
And probably wouldn’t work well if at all.
Hell it didn’t work well in lynux. It just worked “sometimes”.
It makes a good decore for my NeoTech shrine however
I figured the time it would take me to use it far undermines the value of
my
time divided by the thousands of hours spent fiddling with it= ?
Much cheaper to “buy” the dvd disk and skip the stupidity of
working a thousand hours to save 20 bucks .(:-Þ