The usual newuser stuff

Having just installed QNX 6.0, I have encountered a few
problems that I can’t find the answers to right away.

The most pressing problem is how to reboot to Win2k. During
installation I thought I was following instructions to enable
dual-booting but I can’t see how to do this during bootup nor
in QNX docs.

I can compile *.c files but not *.cpp files – should I be
using g++ for the latter (they compile but fail to find
C++ libraries when gcc was used)

How do you find things in QNX? In 'doze I would use
Start|Find to figure out where files like .cshrc are hidden
but I can’t see any similar utility in QNX.

Attempting to access a repository in cd0 when it’s playing
a music CD creates dead windows that I couldn’t find a way
to destroy without rebooting. I did figure out how to get
to the repository which was actually in cd1, though.

Are there no DVD drivers?

Hi James,

To find things with QNX you would open a terminal window and run
find, (eg find / -name devg*).

As for DVD, as of yet we do not ship the drivers out.

To compile C++ files, you need to have your files named .cc so when you
compile them, you would use cc hello.cc

To dual boot your system with windows 2000, you need to install QNX
in it’s own partition, not FAT, and use the QNX Loader,

Regards,

Francois

James Van Buskirk <torsop@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

Having just installed QNX 6.0, I have encountered a few
problems that I can’t find the answers to right away.

The most pressing problem is how to reboot to Win2k. During
installation I thought I was following instructions to enable
dual-booting but I can’t see how to do this during bootup nor
in QNX docs.

I can compile *.c files but not *.cpp files – should I be
using g++ for the latter (they compile but fail to find
C++ libraries when gcc was used)

How do you find things in QNX? In 'doze I would use
Start|Find to figure out where files like .cshrc are hidden
but I can’t see any similar utility in QNX.

Attempting to access a repository in cd0 when it’s playing
a music CD creates dead windows that I couldn’t find a way
to destroy without rebooting. I did figure out how to get
to the repository which was actually in cd1, though.

Are there no DVD drivers?

Tools Mail Account wrote in message <9ike2i$e6j$1@nntp.qnx.com>…

To dual boot your system with windows 2000, you need to install QNX
in it’s own partition, not FAT, and use the QNX Loader,

I was pretty sure I did this. I had the disk partitioned 30 GB for
NT and 10 GB free. The QNX installation program found the 10 GB of
free space and asked me how much of it I wanted to use for the QNX
partition. I requested all of it. I also thought I was installing
the QNX Loader during QNX installation, but I can see no prompt
at bootup from such a loader. One line that is displayed briefly at
bootup refers to an Intel bootloader (stange because my PC uses
an AMD chip.) I’m kind of desparate to get back to Win2k. Could
I have destroyed my Win2k partition during QNX installation or
is there some sort of brute force way to get back to Win2k at this
point short of reformatting the hard disk and reinstalling Win2k?

I have the same problem.
Below, it’s not a good solution but now i can use both os

I made a bootable floppy with qnx.
" dinit -f/.boot /dev/fd0 "
test this floppy, it must be ok.

after, on other pc, i made a rescue disk with powerquest boot magic
Return on your pc and reboot with the second floppy
Choose the win partition and reboot without floppy.
You might reaffect letter (D, E …) to your disk with disk manager.



“James Van Buskirk” <torsop@ix.netcom.com> a écrit dans le message news:
9ikgs2$943$1@inn.qnx.com

Tools Mail Account wrote in message <9ike2i$e6j$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >…

To dual boot your system with windows 2000, you need to install QNX
in it’s own partition, not FAT, and use the QNX Loader,

I was pretty sure I did this. I had the disk partitioned 30 GB for
NT and 10 GB free. The QNX installation program found the 10 GB of
free space and asked me how much of it I wanted to use for the QNX
partition. I requested all of it. I also thought I was installing
the QNX Loader during QNX installation, but I can see no prompt
at bootup from such a loader. One line that is displayed briefly at
bootup refers to an Intel bootloader (stange because my PC uses
an AMD chip.) I’m kind of desparate to get back to Win2k. Could
I have destroyed my Win2k partition during QNX installation or
is there some sort of brute force way to get back to Win2k at this
point short of reformatting the hard disk and reinstalling Win2k?

Jérôme Fabry wrote in message <9iki88$a5j$1@inn.qnx.com>…

after, on other pc, i made a rescue disk with powerquest boot magic

I literally don’t have time at this point to go to the store to
get any software to fix this problem… I have to resolve it
somehow in 33 minutes.

Create a QNX bootable floppy with fdisk on it.
Boot to that floppy then use fdisk to select the ‘active’ partition to
boot to.
I used that method before I purchased boot majic.

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:15:23 -0600, “James Van Buskirk”
<torsop@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

Jérôme Fabry wrote in message <9iki88$a5j$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >…

after, on other pc, i made a rescue disk with powerquest boot magic

I literally don’t have time at this point to go to the store to
get any software to fix this problem… I have to resolve it
somehow in 33 minutes.

Ray LaBrecque wrote in message <3b4de3a2.24629735@inn.qnx.com>…

Create a QNX bootable floppy with fdisk on it.
Boot to that floppy then use fdisk to select the ‘active’ partition to
boot to.
I used that method before I purchased boot majic.

Thanks. The rest of the world seems to be all messed up
temporarily, so it doesn’t matter that my PC is, too, just now.
However I’m kind of clueless about how to achieve this. Do you
think you could give a set of step-by-step instructions so I
could do this without going over all the documentation? Could
I do this via booting from the QNX CD-ROM or in QNX itself
(which I am currently booting to?)

Ok, here’s where I have to 'fess up… I use QNX 4.xx not RTP, so I
can’t give you an exact procedure, but I can attach a text file I got
from QDN or QUICS sometime back… Just remember it is QNX 4.xx
based… You may want to take the time to go to the QNX/RTP docs…


BOL…
Ray L.

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:13:41 -0600, “James Van Buskirk”
<torsop@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

Ray LaBrecque wrote in message <> 3b4de3a2.24629735@inn.qnx.com> >…

Create a QNX bootable floppy with fdisk on it.
Boot to that floppy then use fdisk to select the ‘active’ partition to
boot to.
I used that method before I purchased boot majic.

Thanks. The rest of the world seems to be all messed up
temporarily, so it doesn’t matter that my PC is, too, just now.
However I’m kind of clueless about how to achieve this. Do you
think you could give a set of step-by-step instructions so I
could do this without going over all the documentation? Could
I do this via booting from the QNX CD-ROM or in QNX itself
(which I am currently booting to?)

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I also don’t know how to attach a text file with Forte Free Agent, so
I’ll include it here…

How to create a licensed QNX4 boot floppy.

Get a fresh 720K or higher floppy.
At least 720k will be required for this.

We will assume: - you are superuser (root)

  • the floppy is a 720K in drive A (/dev/fd0)
  • the node we wish to make a boot floppy for is node
    10

Make sure that Fsys is running,
Fsys.floppy is running,
the floppy is mounted as a QNX filesystem.

Fsys &
Fsys.floppy &
mount /dev/fd0 /fd0 #for first floppy

Format the floppy.
fdformat -s720 /dev/fd0

Dinit the floppy.
dinit /dev/fd0

Now let’s look at the boot image.
You should have a file called ‘floppy’ in /boot/build. Edit this
file.
The default one looks something like:

sys/Proc
$ 9500 Proc -p 30 -f 8 16 240 -n 10 -s 10 -t 6

sys/Slib
$ 1 Slib

/bin/Fsys
$ 2000 fsys -f 10 -i 20 -l 0 -c 40 -r 24

/bin/Fsys.floppy
$ 1000 Fsys.floppy

/bin/mount
$ 1000 mount /dev/fd0 / -r

/bin/sinit
$ 1000 sinit TERM=qnx

You can customize any way you want with some special exceptions. I
changed this file and
saved the following data as ‘floppyb’:

sys/Proc
$ 38000 Proc -l 10

sys/Slib
$ 1 Slib

/bin/Fsys
$ 16000 Fsys -r 300

/bin/Fsys.floppy
$ 1000 Fsys.floppy

/bin/mount
$ 1000 mount /dev/fd0 /

/bin/sinit
$ 1000 sinit TERM=qnx

Notice the following:

  • I added a -l 10 option to Proc.
    A BOOT FLOPPY IS SPECIFIC TO THE NODE IT IS BOOTING!!
    i.e. This floppy will only boot node 10 into the network.
  • I removed the -r option on the mount (this makes the filesystem R/W
    not just READ-ONLY)
  • I changed other options to more closely follow the ‘hard’ build
    file.
  • I added a 300K ramdisk in case I need it later.

Make an image based on this build file (floppyb)
cd /boot
make b=floppyb

You will now have a file called floppyb in /boot/images.
Copy this to the floppy
cp -v /boot/images/floppyb /fd0/.boot

Now let’s add licensing to the floppy. Run the following command to
copy your license
information to the floppy (the harddisk where you boot will not be
affected).

In this example, I will assume the node where the license files are is
prefixed as ‘/’.
It could be anywhere, even across the net …

e.g. //35/etc/licenses

mkdir -p /fd0/etc/licenses
license /etc/licenses /fd0/etc/licenses

Check for the license files on the floppy, they should be there.
ls -lF /fd0/etc/licenses

Now, copy all the programs required to boot from the floppy. Here is a
list of what you
will need at a minimum:

/fd0:
.altboot
.bitmap
.boot
.inodes
bin/
etc/

/fd0/bin:
Dev*
Dev.con*
login*
mount*
netmap*
prefix*
ksh*
tinit*

/fd0/etc/config:
sysinit

/fd0/etc/licenses:
Your license files that were copied over previously.

You will need a sysinit.node# file on the floppy in /etc/config.

Here is an example:
TZ=utc00
rtc -l hw
Dev &
Dev.con -n 4 &
reopen
emu87 &
tinit -t /dev/con1 -T /dev/con[2-4] &




On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 18:33:34 GMT, Ray.LaBrecque@gretagimaging.com (Ray
LaBrecque) wrote:

Ok, here’s where I have to 'fess up… I use QNX 4.xx not RTP, so I
can’t give you an exact procedure, but I can attach a text file I got
from QDN or QUICS sometime back… Just remember it is QNX 4.xx
based… You may want to take the time to go to the QNX/RTP docs…


BOL…
Ray L.

On Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:13:41 -0600, “James Van Buskirk”
torsop@ix.netcom.com> > wrote:


Ray LaBrecque wrote in message <> 3b4de3a2.24629735@inn.qnx.com> >…

Create a QNX bootable floppy with fdisk on it.
Boot to that floppy then use fdisk to select the ‘active’ partition to
boot to.
I used that method before I purchased boot majic.

Thanks. The rest of the world seems to be all messed up
temporarily, so it doesn’t matter that my PC is, too, just now.
However I’m kind of clueless about how to achieve this. Do you
think you could give a set of step-by-step instructions so I
could do this without going over all the documentation? Could
I do this via booting from the QNX CD-ROM or in QNX itself
(which I am currently booting to?)
\

Hi,

If you are booting into QNX then the QNX Bootloader should be installed.
On boot up you should see the following:

QNX Loader
Boot Partition #

At this point you will have a few seconds to select a partition to boot from.
Windows is usually on partition 4 (so try entering ‘4’). Otherwise it will boot into QNX by default.

Note: This is only on screen for a few seconds, so if your not watching it is easy to miss.

Also see the following entry in the QNX Knowledge Base:

http://qdn.qnx.com/support/bok/solution.qnx?10095

If you do not see this message, try running fdisk -8 /dev/hd0 to install the QNX 8G boot loader.
For more info see help file for fdisk.


Regards,

Joe

Hardware Support Account wrote in message <9ikqpc$lvb$1@nntp.qnx.com>…

If you are booting into QNX then the QNX Bootloader should be installed.
On boot up you should see the following:

QNX Loader
Boot Partition #

Yes, I do see this:

(8G) QNX Loader
Boot Partition 1

At this point you will have a few seconds to select a partition to boot
from.
Windows is usually on partition 4 (so try entering ‘4’). Otherwise it will
boot into QNX by default.

Kablakh! Pressing the ‘4’ key at this point actually did get me
into Windoze.

Note: This is only on screen for a few seconds, so if your not watching it
is easy to miss.



Also see the following entry in the QNX Knowledge Base:

http://qdn.qnx.com/support/bok/solution.qnx?10095

I saw the message, but didn’t recognize it as a prompt. I observe
from the kb article that others have had the same problem. Could
you at some point in the future change this to something more like:

(8G) QNX Loader
Enter the number of the boot partition (default 1) :> _

It might prove easier for newbies to interpret as a prompt.
Also, how could I have searched the QNX online docs to quickly
discover on my own what to expect from the QNX bootloader on
bootup?

Ray LaBrecque wrote in message <3b4decce.26977581@inn.qnx.com>…

Ok, here’s where I have to 'fess up… I use QNX 4.xx not RTP, so I
can’t give you an exact procedure, but I can attach a text file I got
from QDN or QUICS sometime back… Just remember it is QNX 4.xx
based… You may want to take the time to go to the QNX/RTP docs…

Thanks*6.02e23 for the help. Looking at the docs, it seems that
a couple of things may be a bit different in 6.0, so I went with
the solution proposed by Joe (Hardware Support Account) which
consisted of recognizing the QNX Boot Loader’s terse prompt for
what it is.

Hi James,

In the 6.1 release of RTP the loader prompt is more evident.
You can download 6.1 from the QNX website.

The traditional online docs do not contain any info on the use of the loader.
However you can think as the QNX Knowledge Base as an extension to the docs.

Running a search using the keyword ‘loader’ from the Knowledge base will bring
up the mentioned issue as while as other loader related issues.

Regards,

Joe


James Van Buskirk <torsop@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

Hardware Support Account wrote in message <9ikqpc$lvb$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >…

If you are booting into QNX then the QNX Bootloader should be installed.
On boot up you should see the following:

QNX Loader
Boot Partition #

Yes, I do see this:

(8G) QNX Loader
Boot Partition 1

At this point you will have a few seconds to select a partition to boot
from.
Windows is usually on partition 4 (so try entering ‘4’). Otherwise it will
boot into QNX by default.

Kablakh! Pressing the ‘4’ key at this point actually did get me
into Windoze.

Note: This is only on screen for a few seconds, so if your not watching it
is easy to miss.

Also see the following entry in the QNX Knowledge Base:

http://qdn.qnx.com/support/bok/solution.qnx?10095

I saw the message, but didn’t recognize it as a prompt. I observe
from the kb article that others have had the same problem. Could
you at some point in the future change this to something more like:

(8G) QNX Loader
Enter the number of the boot partition (default 1) :> _

It might prove easier for newbies to interpret as a prompt.
Also, how could I have searched the QNX online docs to quickly
discover on my own what to expect from the QNX bootloader on
bootup?

James Van Buskirk <torsop@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

Yes, I do see this:

(8G) QNX Loader
Boot Partition 1

I saw the message, but didn’t recognize it as a prompt. I observe
from the kb article that others have had the same problem. Could
you at some point in the future change this to something more like:

(8G) QNX Loader
Enter the number of the boot partition (default 1) :> _

There’s only 446 bytes of space in the boot sector to hold the boot
loader code and any messages it can potentially display. Making the
prompt bigger without making the code smaller might be impossible, and
making the code even smaller than it already is might be difficult…


Wojtek Lerch (wojtek@qnx.com) QNX Software Systems Ltd.

Hi,

On my mind QNX loader is pretty tiny and it does not require any
improvements. Anyway I’m sure the new prompt will not help me. What do you
mean saying: “Windows is usually on partition 4 (so try entering ‘4’)”? As
far as I can see James has got two partitions: the first is primary NTFS5
30 GB and the second primary QNX4 10 GB. Where is the fourth partition? Is
it the file system code of partition? I have some doubts, because as far as
I know 4 is a code for FAT16 partition which is smaller than 32 MB and 1
isn’t a code for QNX4 partition. Could anybody explain me what is the digit
for boot partition in QNX loader?

By the way, James could use Windows 2000 OS loader if he don’t like QNX
loader very much.

Hardware Support Account <hw@qnx.com> wrote in article
<9in5da$70p$1@nntp.qnx.com>…

Hi James,

In the 6.1 release of RTP the loader prompt is more evident.
You can download 6.1 from the QNX website.
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Could you explain me how this problem solved in 6.1? I’ve upgraded my RTP
to 6.1 release and new .iso is too big for my idle curiosity :slight_smile:.

Thanks in advance,
Eduard.