Problems dual booting with WIN98

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#1

Dear All,

my machine has a primary fat32 partition, an extended one, and another
primary partition where I’ve installed QNX Neutrino.

The problem is: after installing QNX and it’s boot loader the machine starts
giving a little message: “Press ESC for other OS”, but unfortunately it
doesn’t care of it and goes straight to QNX even if I keep it pressed.

The only way to boot again win98 was to start the machine on a boot disk and
run FDISK from a dos prompt and setting the fat32 partition back to active.
But now it doesn’t boot QNX any more.

How can I set the boot loader to work ? ( It did the same also on a laptop
with the same configuration ).

Thanks very much for any help.

P.S. I’m very new to QNX.

Andrea.

#2

Previously, Andrea Borsic wrote in qdn.public.qnxrtp.installation:

Dear All,

my machine has a primary fat32 partition, an extended one, and another
primary partition where I’ve installed QNX Neutrino.

The problem is: after installing QNX and it’s boot loader the machine starts
giving a little message: “Press ESC for other OS”, but unfortunately it
doesn’t care of it and goes straight to QNX even if I keep it pressed.

The only way to boot again win98 was to start the machine on a boot disk and
run FDISK from a dos prompt and setting the fat32 partition back to active.
But now it doesn’t boot QNX any more.

How can I set the boot loader to work ? ( It did the same also on a laptop
with the same configuration ).

When booting you’ll see a message something like “Boot 3”, where the number 3
is the partition number. When you see this message immediately press the partition
number where win98 resides (possibly partition 4).

The “Press ESC…” message refers to booting an alternate qnx image called
/.altboot. The default boot image is /.boot, both of which reside on the qnx
partition.

ron

#3

hey ron.

how can i generate an alternative boot-image.
in the docs there are some steps to build an image
using mkifs and dinit, i just can’t figure out how to get
that on my normal boot harddisk without initializing
the harddisk.

i’d just like to play around with different system-
images, but without any risk of killing my working
qnx.

cheers
ramin

#4

Ronald Stam <rons@qnx.com> wrote:

When booting you’ll see a message something like “Boot 3”, where the number 3
is the partition number. When you see this message immediately press the partition
number where win98 resides (possibly partition 4).

Hmm, how does this work if Windows 98 partition resides on another
physical drive?

I have two hard drives on my system - a 1.2 gig one with a full size QNX
partition on it, and a 3.2 gig drive with two Windows 98 partitions
(primary/extended). Both drives boot up just fine by themselves, but QNX
boot loader doesn’t know how to boot Windows 98 from the 3.2 gig slave
drive. Nothing I type on “Boot x” thing works.

Any ideas? Master/slave jumpers on my hard drives are starting to show
signs of wear. :stuck_out_tongue:

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  • Antti
#5

the boot image is /.boot and the image that get executed when you press
ESC ( when the message press esc to boot alternate os) is /.altboot
so you can build your test image cp it to /.altboot then reboot. When
asked press esc to boot from it


Previously, Ramin Assadollahi wrote in qdn.public.qnxrtp.installation:
{ hey ron.
{
{ how can i generate an alternative boot-image.
{ in the docs there are some steps to build an image
{ using mkifs and dinit, i just can’t figure out how to get
{ that on my normal boot harddisk without initializing
{ the harddisk.
{
{ i’d just like to play around with different system-
{ images, but without any risk of killing my working
{ qnx.
{
{ cheers
{ ramin
{
{
{

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Pat Ford email: pford@qnx.com
QNX Software Systems, Ltd. WWW: http://www.qnx.com
(613) 591-0931 (voice) mail: 175 Terence Matthews
(613) 591-3579 (fax) Kanata, Ontario, Canada K2M 1W8

#6

In your case you probably just want to build a new image with
mkifs then just ‘cp’ it to /.boot or /.altboot. Just be
sure to have one of .boot/.altboot working so you can still
boot if your new image doesn’t work.

Chris Foran
QNX Technical Support


Previously, Ramin Assadollahi wrote in qdn.public.qnxrtp.installation:

hey ron.

how can i generate an alternative boot-image.
in the docs there are some steps to build an image
using mkifs and dinit, i just can’t figure out how to get
that on my normal boot harddisk without initializing
the harddisk.

i’d just like to play around with different system-
images, but without any risk of killing my working
qnx.

cheers
ramin

#7

Previously, Antti Koskinen wrote in qdn.public.qnxrtp.installation:

Ronald Stam <> rons@qnx.com> > wrote:
When booting you’ll see a message something like “Boot 3”, where the number 3
is the partition number. When you see this message immediately press the partition
number where win98 resides (possibly partition 4).

Hmm, how does this work if Windows 98 partition resides on another
physical drive?

I have two hard drives on my system - a 1.2 gig one with a full size QNX
partition on it, and a 3.2 gig drive with two Windows 98 partitions
(primary/extended). Both drives boot up just fine by themselves, but QNX
boot loader doesn’t know how to boot Windows 98 from the 3.2 gig slave
drive. Nothing I type on “Boot x” thing works.

Any ideas? Master/slave jumpers on my hard drives are starting to show
signs of wear. > :stuck_out_tongue:

Yes, the qnx loader does not handle secondary drives. You can replace the
loader with one which does however. I believe the Norton Commander package
provides a loader as well as there being linux loaders available.

ron

#8

I tried System Commander some time ao and that seemed
to work ok with Linux.


I think there is Boot Magic as well from Power Quest as part
of partition magic.


You might be able to find a `backup copy’ on the net somewhere ?














Previously, Ronald Stam wrote in qdn.public.qnxrtp.installation:

Previously, Antti Koskinen wrote in qdn.public.qnxrtp.installation:
Ronald Stam <> rons@qnx.com> > wrote:
When booting you’ll see a message something like “Boot 3”, where the number 3
is the partition number. When you see this message immediately press the partition
number where win98 resides (possibly partition 4).

Hmm, how does this work if Windows 98 partition resides on another
physical drive?

I have two hard drives on my system - a 1.2 gig one with a full size QNX
partition on it, and a 3.2 gig drive with two Windows 98 partitions
(primary/extended). Both drives boot up just fine by themselves, but QNX
boot loader doesn’t know how to boot Windows 98 from the 3.2 gig slave
drive. Nothing I type on “Boot x” thing works.

Any ideas? Master/slave jumpers on my hard drives are starting to show
signs of wear. > :stuck_out_tongue:

Yes, the qnx loader does not handle secondary drives. You can replace the
loader with one which does however. I believe the Norton Commander package
provides a loader as well as there being linux loaders available.

ron

#9

hi,

sorry, but i don’t get the message “press esc to boot alternate os”
also, both my .boot file and my .altboot file were empty.
thus, i’m asking myself what file is actually used as boot image
when both of the two are empty?
i boot using the menu of win98/2.

so, what to do?

cheers ramin

Pat Ford <pford@qnx.com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
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the boot image is /.boot and the image that get executed when you press
ESC ( when the message press esc to boot alternate os) is /.altboot
so you can build your test image cp it to /.altboot then reboot. When
asked press esc to boot from it


Previously, Ramin Assadollahi wrote in qdn.public.qnxrtp.installation:
{ hey ron.


{ how can i generate an alternative boot-image.
{ in the docs there are some steps to build an image
{ using mkifs and dinit, i just can’t figure out how to get
{ that on my normal boot harddisk without initializing
{ the harddisk.


{ i’d just like to play around with different system-
{ images, but without any risk of killing my working
{ qnx.


{ cheers
{ ramin






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Pat Ford email: > pford@qnx.com
QNX Software Systems, Ltd. WWW: > http://www.qnx.com
(613) 591-0931 (voice) mail: 175 Terence Matthews
(613) 591-3579 (fax) Kanata, Ontario, Canada K2M 1W8