Hi,
I haven’t seen much P4 based desktops here in Holland yet. But I’m
planning on getting me one soon. Anyone have a P4 based PC running
QNX[4|6]? The hardware support page doesn’t explicitly list the P4 as
supported. Moreover, I heard a rumor that linux had some problems with
it. I hope that’s not the case with QNX.
A.R.G.A.
T.I.A
regards,
rick
I would think that if the Pentium 4 had a problem we would have
heard about it by now. Stay away from the Octium 4 though (saw
The Lone Gunmen last night 
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Lake [mailto:rwlake@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL]
Posted At: Monday, March 05, 2001 11:53 AM
Posted To: installation
Conversation: Pentium IV sitings
Subject: Pentium IV sitings
Hi,
I haven’t seen much P4 based desktops here in Holland yet. But I’m
planning on getting me one soon. Anyone have a P4 based PC running
QNX[4|6]? The hardware support page doesn’t explicitly list the P4 as
supported. Moreover, I heard a rumor that linux had some problems with
it. I hope that’s not the case with QNX.
A.R.G.A.
T.I.A
regards,
rick
“Rennie Allen” <RAllen@csical.com> wrote in message
news:D4907B331846D31198090050046F80C902FD3B@exchangecal.hq.csical.com…
I would think that if the Pentium 4 had a problem we would have
heard about it by now. Stay away from the Octium 4 though (saw
The Lone Gunmen last night >
Would gcc be the type of application that benifit from having a P4 or
will like most other application be slower then a P3 ?
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Lake [mailto:> rwlake@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL> ]
Posted At: Monday, March 05, 2001 11:53 AM
Posted To: installation
Conversation: Pentium IV sitings
Subject: Pentium IV sitings
Hi,I haven’t seen much P4 based desktops here in Holland yet. But I’m
planning on getting me one soon. Anyone have a P4 based PC running
QNX[4|6]? The hardware support page doesn’t explicitly list the P4 as
supported. Moreover, I heard a rumor that linux had some problems with
it. I hope that’s not the case with QNX.A.R.G.A.
T.I.Aregards,
rick
Mario Charest wrote:
“Rennie Allen” <> RAllen@csical.com> > wrote in message
news:> D4907B331846D31198090050046F80C902FD3B@exchangecal.hq.csical.com> …
I would think that if the Pentium 4 had a problem we would have
heard about it by now. Stay away from the Octium 4 though (saw
The Lone Gunmen last night >
Would gcc be the type of application that benifit from having a P4 or
will like most other application be slower then a P3 ?
I hope not. One of the reasons I’m upgrading my desktop is to do some
QRTP development. See what you made me do QSSL? (Just kidding, I was
already long overdue with my P1/166/48M system. 
)
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Lake [mailto:> rwlake@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL> ]
Posted At: Monday, March 05, 2001 11:53 AM
Posted To: installation
Conversation: Pentium IV sitings
Subject: Pentium IV sitings
Hi,I haven’t seen much P4 based desktops here in Holland yet. But I’m
planning on getting me one soon. Anyone have a P4 based PC running
QNX[4|6]? The hardware support page doesn’t explicitly list the P4 as
supported. Moreover, I heard a rumor that linux had some problems with
it. I hope that’s not the case with QNX.A.R.G.A.
T.I.Aregards,
rick
Hi Rick,
I would stay away from P4 system, Athlon 1.2Gig will most probably
perform better then a P4 1.5Gigs.
At this time P4 can only benifit from application that stream the data
(video, some games). I don’t think a compiler would
qualify as a streaming application.
Until all application gets recompile to take advantage of P4 it’s
not the best place to put your money.
Actually for the price of a P4 you could probably get a dual Pentium,
or if you can wait for dual Athlon that could even be better.
Make is capable of starting multiple compile on each CPU…
I agree with you that when using gcc one probably feels the need
to get a faster CPU.
“Rick Lake” <rwlake@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL> wrote in message
news:3AA4970F.FEB9C40C@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL…
Mario Charest wrote:
“Rennie Allen” <> RAllen@csical.com> > wrote in message
news:> D4907B331846D31198090050046F80C902FD3B@exchangecal.hq.csical.com> …
I would think that if the Pentium 4 had a problem we would have
heard about it by now. Stay away from the Octium 4 though (saw
The Lone Gunmen last night >
Would gcc be the type of application that benifit from having a P4 or
will like most other application be slower then a P3 ?I hope not. One of the reasons I’m upgrading my desktop is to do some
QRTP development. See what you made me do QSSL? (Just kidding, I was
already long overdue with my P1/166/48M system. >
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Lake [mailto:> rwlake@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL> ]
Posted At: Monday, March 05, 2001 11:53 AM
Posted To: installation
Conversation: Pentium IV sitings
Subject: Pentium IV sitings
Hi,I haven’t seen much P4 based desktops here in Holland yet. But I’m
planning on getting me one soon. Anyone have a P4 based PC running
QNX[4|6]? The hardware support page doesn’t explicitly list the P4 as
supported. Moreover, I heard a rumor that linux had some problems
with
it. I hope that’s not the case with QNX.A.R.G.A.
T.I.Aregards,
rick
Thanks for the tip, Mario. I know the name “Athlon” but who’s chip is
it? Is it AMD’s?
I’ve always been an Intel follower (well at least when it comes to the
x86 family), because other manufacturers are always copying from them
and thus there is always a risk of some incompatibility somewhere.
Do you happen to have a site by hand where they compare the processors?
Mario Charest wrote:
Hi Rick,
I would stay away from P4 system, Athlon 1.2Gig will most probably
perform better then a P4 1.5Gigs.At this time P4 can only benifit from application that stream the data
(video, some games). I don’t think a compiler would
qualify as a streaming application.Until all application gets recompile to take advantage of P4 it’s
not the best place to put your money.Actually for the price of a P4 you could probably get a dual Pentium,
or if you can wait for dual Athlon that could even be better.
Make is capable of starting multiple compile on each CPU…I agree with you that when using gcc one probably feels the need
to get a faster CPU.“Rick Lake” <> rwlake@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL> > wrote in message
news:> 3AA4970F.FEB9C40C@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL> …
Mario Charest wrote:“Rennie Allen” <> RAllen@csical.com> > wrote in message
news:> D4907B331846D31198090050046F80C902FD3B@exchangecal.hq.csical.com> …
I would think that if the Pentium 4 had a problem we would have
heard about it by now. Stay away from the Octium 4 though (saw
The Lone Gunmen last night >
Would gcc be the type of application that benifit from having a P4 or
will like most other application be slower then a P3 ?I hope not. One of the reasons I’m upgrading my desktop is to do some
QRTP development. See what you made me do QSSL? (Just kidding, I was
already long overdue with my P1/166/48M system. >
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Lake [mailto:> rwlake@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL> ]
Posted At: Monday, March 05, 2001 11:53 AM
Posted To: installation
Conversation: Pentium IV sitings
Subject: Pentium IV sitings
Hi,I haven’t seen much P4 based desktops here in Holland yet. But I’m
planning on getting me one soon. Anyone have a P4 based PC running
QNX[4|6]? The hardware support page doesn’t explicitly list the P4 as
supported. Moreover, I heard a rumor that linux had some problems
with
it. I hope that’s not the case with QNX.A.R.G.A.
T.I.Aregards,
rick
“Rick Lake” <rwlake@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL> wrote in message
news:3AA4FE3E.CF1486D@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL…
Thanks for the tip, Mario. I know the name “Athlon” but who’s chip is
it? Is it AMD’s?
Yes, AMD is taking a serious bite at Intel market share.
I’ve always been an Intel follower (well at least when it comes to the
x86 family), because other manufacturers are always copying from them
and thus there is always a risk of some incompatibility somewhere.
AMD is indeed copying the specs, but the implementation
is more advanced then P3 IMHO. Today most compatibility
problem arise from the chipset having trouble with some hardware
config and not the CPU itself. The non-DDR chipset of
the Athlon are very mature.
Do you happen to have a site by hand where they compare the processors?
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q1/010130/index.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/00q4/001206/index.html
You might also wan to have a look at the Duron (equivalent of the
Celeron marketing wise),
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1398
Mario Charest wrote:
Hi Rick,
I would stay away from P4 system, Athlon 1.2Gig will most probably
perform better then a P4 1.5Gigs.At this time P4 can only benifit from application that stream the data
(video, some games). I don’t think a compiler would
qualify as a streaming application.Until all application gets recompile to take advantage of P4 it’s
not the best place to put your money.Actually for the price of a P4 you could probably get a dual Pentium,
or if you can wait for dual Athlon that could even be better.
Make is capable of starting multiple compile on each CPU…I agree with you that when using gcc one probably feels the need
to get a faster CPU.“Rick Lake” <> rwlake@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL> > wrote in message
news:> 3AA4970F.FEB9C40C@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL> …
Mario Charest wrote:“Rennie Allen” <> RAllen@csical.com> > wrote in message
news:> D4907B331846D31198090050046F80C902FD3B@exchangecal.hq.csical.com> …
I would think that if the Pentium 4 had a problem we would have
heard about it by now. Stay away from the Octium 4 though (saw
The Lone Gunmen last night >
Would gcc be the type of application that benifit from having a P4
or
will like most other application be slower then a P3 ?I hope not. One of the reasons I’m upgrading my desktop is to do some
QRTP development. See what you made me do QSSL? (Just kidding, I was
already long overdue with my P1/166/48M system. >
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Lake [mailto:> rwlake@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL> ]
Posted At: Monday, March 05, 2001 11:53 AM
Posted To: installation
Conversation: Pentium IV sitings
Subject: Pentium IV sitings
Hi,I haven’t seen much P4 based desktops here in Holland yet. But I’m
planning on getting me one soon. Anyone have a P4 based PC running
QNX[4|6]? The hardware support page doesn’t explicitly list the P4
as
supported. Moreover, I heard a rumor that linux had some
problems
with
it. I hope that’s not the case with QNX.A.R.G.A.
T.I.Aregards,
rick
OK, lots of stuff to consider. I’m not only looking at QRTP development.
This will be a general purpose desktop.
Regarding gcc, it’s not so much of a problem if gcc/ld runs slower on a
P4; as long as it runs to completion. That’s my problem right now with
only 48M EDO RAM. (Which you can’t buy anywhere anymore now-a-days…)
Thanks a million for your input, Mario. Much appreciated!
rick
Mario Charest wrote:
“Rick Lake” <> rwlake@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL> > wrote in message
news:> 3AA4FE3E.CF1486D@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL> …
Thanks for the tip, Mario. I know the name “Athlon” but who’s chip is
it? Is it AMD’s?Yes, AMD is taking a serious bite at Intel market share.
I’ve always been an Intel follower (well at least when it comes to the
x86 family), because other manufacturers are always copying from them
and thus there is always a risk of some incompatibility somewhere.AMD is indeed copying the specs, but the implementation
is more advanced then P3 IMHO. Today most compatibility
problem arise from the chipset having trouble with some hardware
config and not the CPU itself. The non-DDR chipset of
the Athlon are very mature.
Do you happen to have a site by hand where they compare the processors?http://www.tech-report.com/reviews/2001q1/p4-vs-athlon/
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q1/010130/index.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/00q4/001206/index.htmlYou might also wan to have a look at the Duron (equivalent of the
Celeron marketing wise),http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1398
Mario Charest wrote:
Hi Rick,
I would stay away from P4 system, Athlon 1.2Gig will most probably
perform better then a P4 1.5Gigs.At this time P4 can only benifit from application that stream the data
(video, some games). I don’t think a compiler would
qualify as a streaming application.Until all application gets recompile to take advantage of P4 it’s
not the best place to put your money.Actually for the price of a P4 you could probably get a dual Pentium,
or if you can wait for dual Athlon that could even be better.
Make is capable of starting multiple compile on each CPU…I agree with you that when using gcc one probably feels the need
to get a faster CPU.“Rick Lake” <> rwlake@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL> > wrote in message
news:> 3AA4970F.FEB9C40C@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL> …
Mario Charest wrote:“Rennie Allen” <> RAllen@csical.com> > wrote in message
news:> D4907B331846D31198090050046F80C902FD3B@exchangecal.hq.csical.com> …
I would think that if the Pentium 4 had a problem we would have
heard about it by now. Stay away from the Octium 4 though (saw
The Lone Gunmen last night >
Would gcc be the type of application that benifit from having a P4
or
will like most other application be slower then a P3 ?I hope not. One of the reasons I’m upgrading my desktop is to do some
QRTP development. See what you made me do QSSL? (Just kidding, I was
already long overdue with my P1/166/48M system. >
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Lake [mailto:> rwlake@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL> ]
Posted At: Monday, March 05, 2001 11:53 AM
Posted To: installation
Conversation: Pentium IV sitings
Subject: Pentium IV sitings
Hi,I haven’t seen much P4 based desktops here in Holland yet. But I’m
planning on getting me one soon. Anyone have a P4 based PC running
QNX[4|6]? The hardware support page doesn’t explicitly list the P4
as
supported. Moreover, I heard a rumor that linux had some
problems
with
it. I hope that’s not the case with QNX.A.R.G.A.
T.I.Aregards,
rick
“Rick Lake” <rwlake@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL> wrote in message
news:3AA536A0.5B5A8AFC@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL…
OK, lots of stuff to consider. I’m not only looking at QRTP development.
This will be a general purpose desktop.
Then that’s another point for the Athlon Sorry if I sound
bias, it’s just that IMO buying a P4 is a big waste of money.
When I hear somebody wanting to buy a P4 I feel the
urge to do some preaching ;-(
Regarding gcc, it’s not so much of a problem if gcc/ld runs slower on a
P4; as long as it runs to completion. That’s my problem right now with
only 48M EDO RAM. (Which you can’t buy anywhere anymore now-a-days…)
Ouch! I know a store that still carry them, but 32Meg EDO is the same
price as 256M PC133 DIMM…
Thanks a million for your input, Mario. Much appreciated!
rick
Mario Charest wrote:
“Rick Lake” <> rwlake@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL> > wrote in message
news:> 3AA4FE3E.CF1486D@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL> …
Thanks for the tip, Mario. I know the name “Athlon” but who’s chip is
it? Is it AMD’s?Yes, AMD is taking a serious bite at Intel market share.
I’ve always been an Intel follower (well at least when it comes to the
x86 family), because other manufacturers are always copying from them
and thus there is always a risk of some incompatibility somewhere.AMD is indeed copying the specs, but the implementation
is more advanced then P3 IMHO. Today most compatibility
problem arise from the chipset having trouble with some hardware
config and not the CPU itself. The non-DDR chipset of
the Athlon are very mature.
Do you happen to have a site by hand where they compare the
processors?http://www.tech-report.com/reviews/2001q1/p4-vs-athlon/
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q1/010130/index.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/00q4/001206/index.htmlYou might also wan to have a look at the Duron (equivalent of the
Celeron marketing wise),http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1398
Mario Charest wrote:
Hi Rick,
I would stay away from P4 system, Athlon 1.2Gig will most probably
perform better then a P4 1.5Gigs.At this time P4 can only benifit from application that stream the
data
(video, some games). I don’t think a compiler would
qualify as a streaming application.Until all application gets recompile to take advantage of P4 it’s
not the best place to put your money.Actually for the price of a P4 you could probably get a dual
Pentium,
or if you can wait for dual Athlon that could even be better.
Make is capable of starting multiple compile on each CPU…I agree with you that when using gcc one probably feels the need
to get a faster CPU.“Rick Lake” <> rwlake@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL> > wrote in message
news:> 3AA4970F.FEB9C40C@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL> …
Mario Charest wrote:“Rennie Allen” <> RAllen@csical.com> > wrote in message
news:> D4907B331846D31198090050046F80C902FD3B@exchangecal.hq.csical.com> …
I would think that if the Pentium 4 had a problem we would
have
heard about it by now. Stay away from the Octium 4 though
(saw
The Lone Gunmen last night >
Would gcc be the type of application that benifit from having a
P4
or
will like most other application be slower then a P3 ?I hope not. One of the reasons I’m upgrading my desktop is to do
some
QRTP development. See what you made me do QSSL? (Just kidding, I
was
already long overdue with my P1/166/48M system. >
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Lake [mailto:> rwlake@SPAM.REDIRECTED.TO.DEV.NULL> ]
Posted At: Monday, March 05, 2001 11:53 AM
Posted To: installation
Conversation: Pentium IV sitings
Subject: Pentium IV sitings
Hi,I haven’t seen much P4 based desktops here in Holland yet. But
I’m
planning on getting me one soon. Anyone have a P4 based PC
running
QNX[4|6]? The hardware support page doesn’t explicitly list
the P4
as
supported. Moreover, I heard a rumor that linux had some
problems
with
it. I hope that’s not the case with QNX.A.R.G.A.
T.I.Aregards,
rick