ORINOCO WEP parameters

Hi,

I have installed QNX RTP 6.1 on a laptop and managed to start the drivers
for an orinoco silver wavelan card. The card at present is not however able
to access the network, since an encryption key must be specified.

Does anyone know how to pass the WEP encryption parameters to the device
driver ? I wasn’t able to find any information on this.

Thanks a lot,

Andrea.

Here is how i do it on my laptop:

— /etc/rc.d/rc.local —

pin | grep Network >/dev/null
if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then
mount -T io-net -o “key1=0xXXXXXXXXXX,default_key=1,network=abcdef”
/lib/dll/devn-orinoco.so
netmanager -r all
fi

The key1 should have hexadecimal value matching your access point. If you
access point requires alpphanumeric key (like Oronoco RG-1000) then convert
that key into hex using conversion table (must be supplied in docs).

  • igor

“Andrea Borsic” <aborsic@brookes.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:9srmph$l9h$1@inn.qnx.com

Hi,

I have installed QNX RTP 6.1 on a laptop and managed to start the drivers
for an orinoco silver wavelan card. The card at present is not however
able
to access the network, since an encryption key must be specified.

Does anyone know how to pass the WEP encryption parameters to the device
driver ? I wasn’t able to find any information on this.

Thanks a lot,

Andrea.

You should also be able to use pccard-launch in a similar way to
automatically load the driver, when you plug the card in.

e.g. (something like)

pccard-launch ‘0xXXX,mount -T io-net -o “key1=…”’ /lib/dll/devn-orinoco.so

btw: It would be nice if:

a) pccard-launch, allowed one to specify a command to execute when the
card was removed (rather than simply placing a SIGTERM on - what is in
this case - a non-existant process),

and

b) that umount allowed a -T specification (like mount does - e.g. umount
-T io-net en0).

Igor Kovalenko wrote:

Here is how i do it on my laptop:

— /etc/rc.d/rc.local —

pin | grep Network >/dev/null
if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then
mount -T io-net -o “key1=0xXXXXXXXXXX,default_key=1,network=abcdef”
/lib/dll/devn-orinoco.so
netmanager -r all
fi

The key1 should have hexadecimal value matching your access point. If you
access point requires alpphanumeric key (like Oronoco RG-1000) then convert
that key into hex using conversion table (must be supplied in docs).

  • igor

“Andrea Borsic” <> aborsic@brookes.ac.uk> > wrote in message
news:9srmph$l9h$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …

Hi,

I have installed QNX RTP 6.1 on a laptop and managed to start the drivers
for an orinoco silver wavelan card. The card at present is not however

able

to access the network, since an encryption key must be specified.

Does anyone know how to pass the WEP encryption parameters to the device
driver ? I wasn’t able to find any information on this.

Thanks a lot,

Andrea.
\

Dear Igor and Rennie,

Thanks very much for the useful information.

It is working now.

Andrea.

Hi Igor:



i dont have web access very often these days and only picking up
email/news every few weeks hence replying to this old message but
while reading this i thought i`d bring up some questions regarding
generic wireless kit and its operation/distance and other options
that might give wider coverage (upto 2 miles).

first the basics:
is it right that that if you only need/want 2 wireless connected
computers in TCP/IP and/or Qnet? network, you only need say 2
orinoco PCMCIA/CARDBUS compliant cards ? or do you need some form
of base station for these to talk to first.

(1=PCMCIA/Carbus Wireless Card)
(2=PCI to PCMCIA/CardBus Converter)

laptop<>1<>…tcp/qnet…<>1<>laptop
Desktop<>2<>1<>…tcp/qnet…<>1<>laptop
DeskTop<>2<>1<>…tcp/qnet…<>1<><2>Desktop

if a base unit isn`t needed what benfit is there to useing one
in a 2 computer setup?, does it increase the range of the network
for instance ?.

in my case i`m interested in house to house wireless networking
so walls degrading signal arnt that importent as i can probably
use line of sight for 2 miles or more around here as wythenshawe
(south manchester,uk) is still Europes largest houseing estate and
flat as a pancake relatively speaking.

The average house being 20x20 foot, 2 storys high, manchester airport,
wythenshawe civic center and the odd industrial unit being the
talest buildings around for miles.

what would be the average range with (SOHO…Small Office/HOme? wireless kit)
and without a base station?, what if you use a directional external arial ?,
would that increase the range by a large %.

what if i want to connect more than 2 computers ?
lets say a main machine here, 1 machine 3/4 of a mile away,
1 machine 1 and a half miles away, and a forth machine nearly
2 miles away from here.

its hard to visualise in txt but its kind of an oval area in coverage
like this.

\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \

i`v got a feeling that something like these wireless ORINOCO cards
arnt going to reach distances beyond perhaps 300 yards (5 houses
or so) but parhaps theres some kind of low cost repeater/base unit
than can expand this distance ?.

i know people are probably thinking it would be easyer to just
use some 3rd party landline type connection (cable/phone/least line)
and that could have been an option in this area as NTL now own the
digital cable that covers vertually all wythenshawe now.

however that would mean getting NTL to first feed cable to the house
locations from the street cabs, and more so paying a 3rd party (NTL)
40+ukp per month long term, i`m thinking years, relying on them to
keep their network running (NTL dont have a service leval agreement)
having no option but to use their 3rd party combined STB/cable Modem,
(Pace DITV1000/2000) with IMO sub standard Liberate middleWare/SW,
anyone know what embeded OS that uses/sits on, it doesnt even seem to
be a realtime OS suitable for multimedia or even have a reliable uptime.

useing NTL takes a great % of the network out of my/our control,
also it seems to put off the wireless WAN (wide area network) companys
coming into wythenshawe,manchester due to NTL potential coverage here.

its safe to say i could point out many more negatives as regards wired
3rd partys, the wireless 3rd party WAN could be an option in areas were they have masts already but not around here any time soon.

back to the plot:
rather than thinking old hat wired networking im thinking long term wireless LAN and later WAN and how RTP/Amiga/*nix/other OSs and
inovating Hardware venders/makers could expand into the home/small office
of the near/far future.

for now im interested in personal wireless networking upto 2 miles, but im also interested in how one might expand on this to gradually
expand into WAN networking, small offices/local shops/schools, that
type of thing, houseing server machines at key points,simular to
wired co-location but using wireless kit.

so does anything currently exist on the market for this type of distance?
details on how it might be used in long distance LAN and WAN as outlined
above, does it work with RTP, does/will anyone (Igor?)make/sell realisticly
priced (for mass market home/small business pockets) easy to use/configure
admin SW for this kit?.

if the HW kit doesn`t exist yet, will the reader/small-large company
make such kit any time soon for the UK and world markets?.

to recap:
(for use in the UK)
are 2 wireless PCMCIA cards (with PCI adaptor were needed)all thats
needed to network 2 machines.

what is their average coverage with and without line of sight.

whats needed to extend their range upto 2 miles if anything.

what if i need more than 2 machines (perhaps upto 255 say).

will this kit gracfully expand into wireless WAN type setups.

as is implyed, if this kit isn`t best suited for the distance,
what might be a better fit keeping in mind that i/others might
want to expand parts of the private network into a comercial arm.

would microwave,laser,other type of kit be better/cheaper over
the longer term for 2 mile run`s, what max useablevdistances per kit
are we talking here?.

does any currently available kit have RTP drivers and other SW
that would be needed/wanted to effectivly use this kit in a
home/small office type setting.

if nothing (preferably in the mass market type price bracket) currently
exists that can fill this longer run (say between 300+meter-5mile)
wireless LAN, will anyone/company be producing (small/stackable?) kit
in the near future?, i`v beleaved and advocated this type of cheap
forward thinking home kit for a considerable time
(Classic amiga style AutoConfig HW rather than Wintel Bios/P&P HW).

perhaps you have some views on any other options i`v not mentioned here
that might fit into this market secture and werth consideration ?.

until next time i poll,seya and thanks for reading.

ps.
please expand on any/all these LAN/WAN/whateverAN and i hope to
see lots of interesting related info/options/threads soon.


Igor:
Here is how i do it on my laptop:

— /etc/rc.d/rc.local —

pin | grep Network >/dev/null
if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then
mount -T io-net -o “key1=0xXXXXXXXXXX,default_key=1,network=abcdef”
/lib/dll/devn-orinoco.so
netmanager -r all
fi

The key1 should have hexadecimal value matching your access point. If you
access point requires alpphanumeric key (like Oronoco RG-1000) then convert
that key into hex using conversion table (must be supplied in docs).

  • igor

“Andrea Borsic” <> aborsic@brookes.ac.uk> > wrote in message
news:9srmph$l9h$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Hi,

I have installed QNX RTP 6.1 on a laptop and managed to start the drivers
for an orinoco silver wavelan card. The card at present is not however
able
to access the network, since an encryption key must be specified.

Does anyone know how to pass the WEP encryption parameters to the device
driver ? I wasn’t able to find any information on this.

Thanks a lot,

Andrea.

Paul May, Manchester, UK,
Phoenix Core © 1999, Phoenix Developer Consortium © 2000, Team Phx © 1999
Phinixi Technologies International LTD © 2000, Phinixi © 2000

Wow Paul,

Lots of food for thought. My only comment is that I really don’t know if
you can get 2 miles (or even 1 mile) of wireless network. Where I used to
work we used wireless Ethernet across a casino floor within the same
building and had trouble with reliability. Admittedly a casino is a very
noise environment, electronically as well as audibly.

In your cross-the-neighborhood example I wonder if this represents a
security (or any other kind of interference) issue? If someone else a mile
away just happens to own the same box as you, can they see (snoop) your
data? Can they send you data (ping)? (why not?) At the very least they
can cause a lot of collisions.

Let me know how well this work. Behind my concerns I want to try it myself.
I live 1.1 miles from my office.

“Paul May” <paul@phinixi.com.fake.com> wrote in message
news:7268.854T1946T35348paul@phinixi.com.fake.com

Hi Igor:



i dont have web access very often these days and only picking up
email/news every few weeks hence replying to this old message but
while reading this i thought i`d bring up some questions regarding
generic wireless kit and its operation/distance and other options
that might give wider coverage (upto 2 miles).

first the basics:
is it right that that if you only need/want 2 wireless connected
computers in TCP/IP and/or Qnet? network, you only need say 2
orinoco PCMCIA/CARDBUS compliant cards ? or do you need some form
of base station for these to talk to first.

(1=PCMCIA/Carbus Wireless Card)
(2=PCI to PCMCIA/CardBus Converter)

laptop<>1<>…tcp/qnet…<>1<>laptop
Desktop<>2<>1<>…tcp/qnet…<>1<>laptop
DeskTop<>2<>1<>…tcp/qnet…<>1<><2>Desktop

if a base unit isn`t needed what benfit is there to useing one
in a 2 computer setup?, does it increase the range of the network
for instance ?.

in my case i`m interested in house to house wireless networking
so walls degrading signal arnt that importent as i can probably
use line of sight for 2 miles or more around here as wythenshawe
(south manchester,uk) is still Europes largest houseing estate and
flat as a pancake relatively speaking.

The average house being 20x20 foot, 2 storys high, manchester airport,
wythenshawe civic center and the odd industrial unit being the
talest buildings around for miles.

what would be the average range with (SOHO…Small Office/HOme? wireless
kit)
and without a base station?, what if you use a directional external arial
?,
would that increase the range by a large %.

what if i want to connect more than 2 computers ?
lets say a main machine here, 1 machine 3/4 of a mile away,
1 machine 1 and a half miles away, and a forth machine nearly
2 miles away from here.

its hard to visualise in txt but its kind of an oval area in coverage
like this.
machine4

machine3




machine2





my base machine1

i`v got a feeling that something like these wireless ORINOCO cards
arnt going to reach distances beyond perhaps 300 yards (5 houses
or so) but parhaps theres some kind of low cost repeater/base unit
than can expand this distance ?.

i know people are probably thinking it would be easyer to just
use some 3rd party landline type connection (cable/phone/least line)
and that could have been an option in this area as NTL now own the
digital cable that covers vertually all wythenshawe now.

however that would mean getting NTL to first feed cable to the house
locations from the street cabs, and more so paying a 3rd party (NTL)
40+ukp per month long term, i`m thinking years, relying on them to
keep their network running (NTL dont have a service leval agreement)
having no option but to use their 3rd party combined STB/cable Modem,
(Pace DITV1000/2000) with IMO sub standard Liberate middleWare/SW,
anyone know what embeded OS that uses/sits on, it doesnt even seem to
be a realtime OS suitable for multimedia or even have a reliable uptime.

useing NTL takes a great % of the network out of my/our control,
also it seems to put off the wireless WAN (wide area network) companys
coming into wythenshawe,manchester due to NTL potential coverage here.

its safe to say i could point out many more negatives as regards wired
3rd partys, the wireless 3rd party WAN could be an option in areas were they have masts already but not around here any time soon.

back to the plot:
rather than thinking old hat wired networking im thinking long term wireless LAN and later WAN and how RTP/Amiga/*nix/other OSs and
inovating Hardware venders/makers could expand into the home/small office
of the near/far future.

for now im interested in personal wireless networking upto 2 miles, but im also interested in how one might expand on this to gradually
expand into WAN networking, small offices/local shops/schools, that
type of thing, houseing server machines at key points,simular to
wired co-location but using wireless kit.

so does anything currently exist on the market for this type of distance?
details on how it might be used in long distance LAN and WAN as outlined
above, does it work with RTP, does/will anyone (Igor?)make/sell
realisticly
priced (for mass market home/small business pockets) easy to use/configure
admin SW for this kit?.

if the HW kit doesn`t exist yet, will the reader/small-large company
make such kit any time soon for the UK and world markets?.

to recap:
(for use in the UK)
are 2 wireless PCMCIA cards (with PCI adaptor were needed)all thats
needed to network 2 machines.

what is their average coverage with and without line of sight.

whats needed to extend their range upto 2 miles if anything.

what if i need more than 2 machines (perhaps upto 255 say).

will this kit gracfully expand into wireless WAN type setups.

as is implyed, if this kit isn`t best suited for the distance,
what might be a better fit keeping in mind that i/others might
want to expand parts of the private network into a comercial arm.

would microwave,laser,other type of kit be better/cheaper over
the longer term for 2 mile run`s, what max useablevdistances per kit
are we talking here?.

does any currently available kit have RTP drivers and other SW
that would be needed/wanted to effectivly use this kit in a
home/small office type setting.

if nothing (preferably in the mass market type price bracket) currently
exists that can fill this longer run (say between 300+meter-5mile)
wireless LAN, will anyone/company be producing (small/stackable?) kit
in the near future?, i`v beleaved and advocated this type of cheap
forward thinking home kit for a considerable time
(Classic amiga style AutoConfig HW rather than Wintel Bios/P&P HW).

perhaps you have some views on any other options i`v not mentioned here
that might fit into this market secture and werth consideration ?.

until next time i poll,seya and thanks for reading.

ps.
please expand on any/all these LAN/WAN/whateverAN and i hope to
see lots of interesting related info/options/threads soon.


Igor:
Here is how i do it on my laptop:

— /etc/rc.d/rc.local —

pin | grep Network >/dev/null
if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then
mount -T io-net -o “key1=0xXXXXXXXXXX,default_key=1,network=abcdef”
/lib/dll/devn-orinoco.so
netmanager -r all
fi

The key1 should have hexadecimal value matching your access point. If you
access point requires alpphanumeric key (like Oronoco RG-1000) then
convert
that key into hex using conversion table (must be supplied in docs).

  • igor

“Andrea Borsic” <> aborsic@brookes.ac.uk> > wrote in message
news:9srmph$l9h$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Hi,

I have installed QNX RTP 6.1 on a laptop and managed to start the
drivers
for an orinoco silver wavelan card. The card at present is not however
able
to access the network, since an encryption key must be specified.

Does anyone know how to pass the WEP encryption parameters to the
device
driver ? I wasn’t able to find any information on this.

Thanks a lot,

Andrea.





Paul May, Manchester, UK,
Phoenix Core © 1999, Phoenix Developer Consortium © 2000, Team Phx ©
1999
Phinixi Technologies International LTD © 2000, Phinixi © 2000