Unable to boot from floppy or CD

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1

Hi

I downloaded the 6.1 ISO image (422MB). The cksum was correct and burn
looks good (i.e. the filesystem is intact). But the CD does not boot in my
system. Is it supposed to?

On the system I really want to install RTP on it wont boot from CD (it
claims to be capable but says there is no boot record. I can boot other CD
on this system.)

When I try to boot it on a WinNT system it says:
No QNX 6.1 or greater filesystem available to mount.

So I loaded the CD on a WinNT system and chose to make a bootable floppy.
The floppy verified OK.

When trying to boot from floppy, I hit the spacebar and selected
(force a partition install) then hit . After about 30 seconds it
comes back and says:
Unable to locate finstall

I do have QNX4 running on this system that I can use to check some things.
What can I try?

QNX4 does NOT show a valid directory on that CD. /dev/cd0 is only 2 blocks
long and dcheck reports both blocks as bad.

–
Bill Caroselli – 1(626) 824-7983
Q-TPS Consulting
QTPS@EarthLink.net

2

Hi Bill,

Could you look at CD under NT, for example look into Repository folder. I burned one CD (it was RTP
6.0 ISO) and that CD doesn’t work… Files in CD repository have very strange names. All other
stuff worked, I also created floppy but I was unable to install RTP from that CD. Then I burn other
CD from the same image and this one works :wink: I think it was something wrong with Nero (or me). But
maybe, RTP 6.1 ISO very different… or the problem exists… but I don’t know where.
Best regards.

Eduard.
ed1k at ukr dot net

Bill Caroselli <qtps@earthlink.net> wrote in article <a7tk9d$le$1@inn.qnx.com>…

Hi

I downloaded the 6.1 ISO image (422MB). The cksum was correct and burn
looks good (i.e. the filesystem is intact). But the CD does not boot in my
system. Is it supposed to?

On the system I really want to install RTP on it wont boot from CD (it
claims to be capable but says there is no boot record. I can boot other CD
on this system.)

When I try to boot it on a WinNT system it says:
No QNX 6.1 or greater filesystem available to mount.

So I loaded the CD on a WinNT system and chose to make a bootable floppy.
The floppy verified OK.

When trying to boot from floppy, I hit the spacebar and selected <F10
(force a partition install) then hit . After about 30 seconds it
comes back and says:
Unable to locate finstall

I do have QNX4 running on this system that I can use to check some things.
What can I try?

QNX4 does NOT show a valid directory on that CD. /dev/cd0 is only 2 blocks
long and dcheck reports both blocks as bad.

–
Bill Caroselli – 1(626) 824-7983
Q-TPS Consulting
QTPS@EarthLink.net
\

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All of the file names seam to make perfect sense.

“ed1k” <ed1k@spamerstrap.com> wrote in message
news:01c1d635$9ffc3000$106fa8c0@ED1K…

Hi Bill,

Could you look at CD under NT, for example look into Repository folder. I
burned one CD (it was RTP
6.0 ISO) and that CD doesn’t work… Files in CD repository have very
strange names. All other
stuff worked, I also created floppy but I was unable to install RTP from
that CD. Then I burn other
CD from the same image and this one works > :wink: > I think it was something
wrong with Nero (or me). But
maybe, RTP 6.1 ISO very different… or the problem exists… but I don’t
know where.
Best regards.

Eduard.
ed1k at ukr dot net

Bill Caroselli <> qtps@earthlink.net> > wrote in article
a7tk9d$le$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >…
Hi

I downloaded the 6.1 ISO image (422MB). The cksum was correct and burn
looks good (i.e. the filesystem is intact). But the CD does not boot in
my
system. Is it supposed to?

On the system I really want to install RTP on it wont boot from CD (it
claims to be capable but says there is no boot record. I can boot other
CD
on this system.)

When I try to boot it on a WinNT system it says:
No QNX 6.1 or greater filesystem available to mount.

So I loaded the CD on a WinNT system and chose to make a bootable
floppy.
The floppy verified OK.

When trying to boot from floppy, I hit the spacebar and selected <F10
(force a partition install) then hit . After about 30 seconds it
comes back and says:
Unable to locate finstall

I do have QNX4 running on this system that I can use to check some
things.
What can I try?

QNX4 does NOT show a valid directory on that CD. /dev/cd0 is only 2
blocks
long and dcheck reports both blocks as bad.

–
Bill Caroselli – 1(626) 824-7983
Q-TPS Consulting
QTPS@EarthLink.net
\

4

Under QNX4 with Iso9660fsys the CD seams to have:
/cd0
/cd0/.cd.information.
/cd0/.cd.information./control

All of these have a size of 0. The control file is of type ‘n’.

What can I look at next?

“Bill Caroselli” <qtps@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:a7tk9d$le$1@inn.qnx.com…

Hi

I downloaded the 6.1 ISO image (422MB). The cksum was correct and burn
looks good (i.e. the filesystem is intact). But the CD does not boot in
my
system. Is it supposed to?

On the system I really want to install RTP on it wont boot from CD (it
claims to be capable but says there is no boot record. I can boot other
CD
on this system.)

When I try to boot it on a WinNT system it says:
No QNX 6.1 or greater filesystem available to mount.

So I loaded the CD on a WinNT system and chose to make a bootable floppy.
The floppy verified OK.

When trying to boot from floppy, I hit the spacebar and selected <F10
(force a partition install) then hit . After about 30 seconds it
comes back and says:
Unable to locate finstall

I do have QNX4 running on this system that I can use to check some things.
What can I try?

QNX4 does NOT show a valid directory on that CD. /dev/cd0 is only 2
blocks
long and dcheck reports both blocks as bad.

–
Bill Caroselli – 1(626) 824-7983
Q-TPS Consulting
QTPS@EarthLink.net

5

This time: booted from floppy with the CD installed: here’s what it says:

Press Esc for .altboot …
Press spacebat to input boot options…
Detected EIDE. Scanning for devices.

Please select a boot option
F2 - Run from CD (hard disk file system mounted under /fs
F3 - Install QNX to a new disk partition

Select ? <I hit F3 after about 30 seconds>
Unable to locate finstall

After that it just sits there.

“Bill Caroselli” <qtps@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:a7tk9d$le$1@inn.qnx.com…

Hi

I downloaded the 6.1 ISO image (422MB). The cksum was correct and burn
looks good (i.e. the filesystem is intact). But the CD does not boot in
my
system. Is it supposed to?

On the system I really want to install RTP on it wont boot from CD (it
claims to be capable but says there is no boot record. I can boot other
CD
on this system.)

When I try to boot it on a WinNT system it says:
No QNX 6.1 or greater filesystem available to mount.

So I loaded the CD on a WinNT system and chose to make a bootable floppy.
The floppy verified OK.

When trying to boot from floppy, I hit the spacebar and selected <F10
(force a partition install) then hit . After about 30 seconds it
comes back and says:
Unable to locate finstall

I do have QNX4 running on this system that I can use to check some things.
What can I try?

QNX4 does NOT show a valid directory on that CD. /dev/cd0 is only 2
blocks
long and dcheck reports both blocks as bad.

–
Bill Caroselli – 1(626) 824-7983
Q-TPS Consulting
QTPS@EarthLink.net

6

I was able to copy the entire contents of the CD onto an existing QNX4
partition.

Is there some way I can boot a custom RTP floppy, dinit and mount a new
partition (along with the existing QNX4 one), and run the RTP install to the
new partition by hand?

I do have access to other RTP systems and I can put anything there that I
need.

“Bill Caroselli” <qtps@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:a7tk9d$le$1@inn.qnx.com…

Hi

I downloaded the 6.1 ISO image (422MB). The cksum was correct and burn
looks good (i.e. the filesystem is intact). But the CD does not boot in
my
system. Is it supposed to?

On the system I really want to install RTP on it wont boot from CD (it
claims to be capable but says there is no boot record. I can boot other
CD
on this system.)

When I try to boot it on a WinNT system it says:
No QNX 6.1 or greater filesystem available to mount.

So I loaded the CD on a WinNT system and chose to make a bootable floppy.
The floppy verified OK.

When trying to boot from floppy, I hit the spacebar and selected <F10
(force a partition install) then hit . After about 30 seconds it
comes back and says:
Unable to locate finstall

I do have QNX4 running on this system that I can use to check some things.
What can I try?

QNX4 does NOT show a valid directory on that CD. /dev/cd0 is only 2
blocks
long and dcheck reports both blocks as bad.

–
Bill Caroselli – 1(626) 824-7983
Q-TPS Consulting
QTPS@EarthLink.net

7

Unable to locate finstall

Seems CD isn’t mounted properly;
What does [SPC][F6]][F6] (really verbose) say?

kabe

8

How old is your cd drive? I had a case with the 6.2 beta where I was getting ‘Unable to locate…’
messages that went
away when I put a newer CD in my system.

“Bill Caroselli (Q-TPS)” <QTPS@EarthLink.net> wrote in message news:a7vohu$hl0$1@inn.qnx.com…

This time: booted from floppy with the CD installed: here’s what it says:

Press Esc for .altboot …
Press spacebat to input boot options…
Detected EIDE. Scanning for devices.

Please select a boot option <yadda yadda yadda
F2 - Run from CD (hard disk file system mounted under /fs
F3 - Install QNX to a new disk partition

Select ? <I hit F3 after about 30 seconds
Unable to locate finstall

After that it just sits there.

“Bill Caroselli” <> qtps@earthlink.net> > wrote in message
news:a7tk9d$le$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Hi

I downloaded the 6.1 ISO image (422MB). The cksum was correct and burn
looks good (i.e. the filesystem is intact). But the CD does not boot in
my
system. Is it supposed to?

On the system I really want to install RTP on it wont boot from CD (it
claims to be capable but says there is no boot record. I can boot other
CD
on this system.)

When I try to boot it on a WinNT system it says:
No QNX 6.1 or greater filesystem available to mount.

So I loaded the CD on a WinNT system and chose to make a bootable floppy.
The floppy verified OK.

When trying to boot from floppy, I hit the spacebar and selected <F10
(force a partition install) then hit . After about 30 seconds it
comes back and says:
Unable to locate finstall

I do have QNX4 running on this system that I can use to check some things.
What can I try?

QNX4 does NOT show a valid directory on that CD. /dev/cd0 is only 2
blocks
long and dcheck reports both blocks as bad.

–
Bill Caroselli – 1(626) 824-7983
Q-TPS Consulting
QTPS@EarthLink.net

\

9

Since I’m not getting anywhere with solutions to my install problem,

What is finstall?
Can I fake it by hand?
Can I copy it from somewhere else?

“Bill Caroselli” <qtps@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:a7tk9d$le$1@inn.qnx.com…

Hi

I downloaded the 6.1 ISO image (422MB). The cksum was correct and burn
looks good (i.e. the filesystem is intact). But the CD does not boot in
my
system. Is it supposed to?

On the system I really want to install RTP on it wont boot from CD (it
claims to be capable but says there is no boot record. I can boot other
CD
on this system.)

When I try to boot it on a WinNT system it says:
No QNX 6.1 or greater filesystem available to mount.

So I loaded the CD on a WinNT system and chose to make a bootable floppy.
The floppy verified OK.

When trying to boot from floppy, I hit the spacebar and selected <F10
(force a partition install) then hit . After about 30 seconds it
comes back and says:
Unable to locate finstall

I do have QNX4 running on this system that I can use to check some things.
What can I try?

QNX4 does NOT show a valid directory on that CD. /dev/cd0 is only 2
blocks
long and dcheck reports both blocks as bad.

–
Bill Caroselli – 1(626) 824-7983
Q-TPS Consulting
QTPS@EarthLink.net

10

Previously, Bill Caroselli (Q-TPS) wrote in qdn.public.qnxrtp.installation:

I’ve experienced this problem just this morning.
It was an unsupported CDrom, and a very old bios machine.
The boot floppy would load the ifs but couldn’t read the CD,
so that’s where it quit.
finstall appears to be in the qnxbase.qfs file system on the CD,
which the floppy can’t read.

Since I’m not getting anywhere with solutions to my install problem,

What is finstall?
Can I fake it by hand?
Can I copy it from somewhere else?

“Bill Caroselli” <> qtps@earthlink.net> > wrote in message
news:a7tk9d$le$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Hi

I downloaded the 6.1 ISO image (422MB). The cksum was correct and burn
looks good (i.e. the filesystem is intact). But the CD does not boot in
my
system. Is it supposed to?

Yes, if your BIOS can boot from CD.

On the system I really want to install RTP on it wont boot from CD (it
claims to be capable but says there is no boot record. I can boot other
CD
on this system.)

When I try to boot it on a WinNT system it says:
No QNX 6.1 or greater filesystem available to mount.

Tells me that there’s something wrong with the CD.

So I loaded the CD on a WinNT system and chose to make a bootable floppy.
The floppy verified OK.

When trying to boot from floppy, I hit the spacebar and selected <F10
(force a partition install) then hit . After about 30 seconds it
comes back and says:
Unable to locate finstall

I do have QNX4 running on this system that I can use to check some things.
What can I try?

QNX4 does NOT show a valid directory on that CD. /dev/cd0 is only 2
blocks
long and dcheck reports both blocks as bad.

Personally, I don’t have a QNX4 system available to verify what you see,
but the CD does mount, and the .qfs files representing qnx file systems
will mount under Linux with the qnx4 module loaded…

Hope this helps…

–
Cowboy

Aquavit is also considered useful for medicinal purposes, an essential
ingredient in what I was once told is the Norwegian cure for the common
cold. You get a bottle, a poster bed, and the brightest colored stocking
cap you can find. You put the cap on the post at the foot of the bed,
then get into bed and drink aquavit until you can’t see the cap. I’ve
never tried this, but it sounds as though it should work.
– Peter Nelson

11

Hi Curt

This system is just exactly 1 year old! How unsupported can it be?

Anyway, as I said in another post, I have copied the entire CD contents to a
different partition (QNX4) on the same hard drive that I want to install RTP
on. What can I type in by hand to do an install “as if” it were installing
from CD?

I do know how to prefix (sym-link) things. Just tell me what to run?

“Cowboy” <curt@gwis.com> wrote in message
news:Voyager.020401154238.2359327A@localhost.localdomain…

Previously, Bill Caroselli (Q-TPS) wrote in
qdn.public.qnxrtp.installation:

I’ve experienced this problem just this morning.
It was an unsupported CDrom, and a very old bios machine.
The boot floppy would load the ifs but couldn’t read the CD,
so that’s where it quit.
finstall appears to be in the qnxbase.qfs file system on the CD,
which the floppy can’t read.

Since I’m not getting anywhere with solutions to my install problem,

What is finstall?
Can I fake it by hand?
Can I copy it from somewhere else?

“Bill Caroselli” <> qtps@earthlink.net> > wrote in message
news:a7tk9d$le$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Hi

I downloaded the 6.1 ISO image (422MB). The cksum was correct and
burn
looks good (i.e. the filesystem is intact). But the CD does not boot
in
my
system. Is it supposed to?

Yes, if your BIOS can boot from CD.

On the system I really want to install RTP on it wont boot from CD (it
claims to be capable but says there is no boot record. I can boot
other
CD
on this system.)

When I try to boot it on a WinNT system it says:
No QNX 6.1 or greater filesystem available to mount.

Tells me that there’s something wrong with the CD.

So I loaded the CD on a WinNT system and chose to make a bootable
floppy.
The floppy verified OK.

When trying to boot from floppy, I hit the spacebar and selected <F10
(force a partition install) then hit . After about 30 seconds
it
comes back and says:
Unable to locate finstall

I do have QNX4 running on this system that I can use to check some
things.
What can I try?

QNX4 does NOT show a valid directory on that CD. /dev/cd0 is only 2
blocks
long and dcheck reports both blocks as bad.

Personally, I don’t have a QNX4 system available to verify what you see,
but the CD does mount, and the .qfs files representing qnx file systems
will mount under Linux with the qnx4 module loaded…

Hope this helps…

–
Cowboy

Aquavit is also considered useful for medicinal purposes, an essential
ingredient in what I was once told is the Norwegian cure for the common
cold. You get a bottle, a poster bed, and the brightest colored stocking
cap you can find. You put the cap on the post at the foot of the bed,
then get into bed and drink aquavit until you can’t see the cap. I’ve
never tried this, but it sounds as though it should work.
– Peter Nelson

12

Previously, Bill Caroselli (Q-TPS) wrote in qdn.public.qnxrtp.installation:

Hi Curt

This system is just exactly 1 year old! How unsupported can it be?

Hmm…
Ya got a point !

Anyway, as I said in another post, I have copied the entire CD contents to a
different partition (QNX4) on the same hard drive that I want to install RTP
on.

I missed that…

What can I type in by hand to do an install “as if” it were installing
from CD?

I do know how to prefix (sym-link) things. Just tell me what to run?

Hmmm…
Done that a bunch of times with other systems.
Don’t have an answer, but watching this thread just in case… ?

–
Cowboy

Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps; for he is the only animal
that is struck with the difference between what things are and what they
ought to be.
– William Hazlitt