FLEXlm installation location

Hi

QNX 6.2 PE and SE introduces the FLEXlm. I was wondering if for instance it
is possible to install the FLEXlm server on a Windows machine and then use
the license key on a QNX host across the network?

Our configuration is that we have a network with a Windows 2000 server on
which I would like to install the FLEXlm server, and then we have QNX self
hosted development systems. Can those development system uses the Windows
hosted license manager?

Furthermore is a certain license key locked to a certain QNX self hosted? -
Say I decide to upgrade the QNX self hosted system - do I need a new key?

Thanks
Jens

Jens H Jorgensen <jhj@remove-nospam-videk.com> wrote:

Our configuration is that we have a network with a Windows 2000 server on
which I would like to install the FLEXlm server, and then we have QNX self
hosted development systems. Can those development system uses the Windows
hosted license manager?

I don’t think the self-hosted mode uses FLEXlm at all. AFAIK, the FLEXlm
licensing is only required for cross-development from Windows or Solaris.
You can run self-hosted without ever touching FLEXlm.

Cheers,
Camz

That is great news - as I didn’t really wanted to deal with FLEXlm.

Thanks
Jens
<camz@passageway.com> wrote in message news:ai6am4$7aj$1@inn.qnx.com

Jens H Jorgensen <> jhj@remove-nospam-videk.com> > wrote:
Our configuration is that we have a network with a Windows 2000 server
on
which I would like to install the FLEXlm server, and then we have QNX
self
hosted development systems. Can those development system uses the
Windows
hosted license manager?

I don’t think the self-hosted mode uses FLEXlm at all. AFAIK, the FLEXlm
licensing is only required for cross-development from Windows or Solaris.
You can run self-hosted without ever touching FLEXlm.

Cheers,
Camz

consider if i install QNX on Self Hosted & thro telnet i acess it on more
than 5 machines.Do i require licenses for 5m/cs ? is there any restictions
(license) to acess thro telnet.( i wonder it isn’t as i could connect at
least on 2 m/cs, i am yet to try on other).If i can do this, then i can take
one license & 5 peoiple can use it thro telnet. Is it legal ? i feel QSSL
should restrict using like this by some licence key etc ( Please see that i
am talking about Self hosted)

“Jens H Jorgensen” <jhj@remove-nospam-videk.com> wrote in message
news:ai6coj$8q8$1@inn.qnx.com

That is great news - as I didn’t really wanted to deal with FLEXlm.

Thanks
Jens
camz@passageway.com> > wrote in message news:ai6am4$7aj$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Jens H Jorgensen <> jhj@remove-nospam-videk.com> > wrote:
Our configuration is that we have a network with a Windows 2000 server
on
which I would like to install the FLEXlm server, and then we have QNX
self
hosted development systems. Can those development system uses the
Windows
hosted license manager?

I don’t think the self-hosted mode uses FLEXlm at all. AFAIK, the
FLEXlm
licensing is only required for cross-development from Windows or
Solaris.
You can run self-hosted without ever touching FLEXlm.

Cheers,
Camz

I am pretty sure that you can be running as many telnet sessions from as
many machines that you want to.

The limiting factor would be the amount of resouces on the “QNX server” -
mainly memory.


Jens


“vasdev” <vasdev_vs@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ai7mih$89b$1@inn.qnx.com

consider if i install QNX on Self Hosted & thro telnet i acess it on more
than 5 machines.Do i require licenses for 5m/cs ? is there any restictions
(license) to acess thro telnet.( i wonder it isn’t as i could connect at
least on 2 m/cs, i am yet to try on other).If i can do this, then i can
take
one license & 5 peoiple can use it thro telnet. Is it legal ? i feel QSSL
should restrict using like this by some licence key etc ( Please see that
i
am talking about Self hosted)

“Jens H Jorgensen” <> jhj@remove-nospam-videk.com> > wrote in message
news:ai6coj$8q8$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
That is great news - as I didn’t really wanted to deal with FLEXlm.

Thanks
Jens
camz@passageway.com> > wrote in message news:ai6am4$7aj$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Jens H Jorgensen <> jhj@remove-nospam-videk.com> > wrote:
Our configuration is that we have a network with a Windows 2000
server
on
which I would like to install the FLEXlm server, and then we have
QNX
self
hosted development systems. Can those development system uses the
Windows
hosted license manager?

I don’t think the self-hosted mode uses FLEXlm at all. AFAIK, the
FLEXlm
licensing is only required for cross-development from Windows or
Solaris.
You can run self-hosted without ever touching FLEXlm.

Cheers,
Camz
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vasdev <vasdev_vs@hotmail.com> wrote:

consider if i install QNX on Self Hosted & thro telnet i acess it on more
than 5 machines.Do i require licenses for 5m/cs ? is there any restictions
(license) to acess thro telnet.( i wonder it isn’t as i could connect at
least on 2 m/cs, i am yet to try on other).If i can do this, then i can take
one license & 5 peoiple can use it thro telnet. Is it legal ? i feel QSSL
should restrict using like this by some licence key etc ( Please see that i
am talking about Self hosted)

[rant mode on]

Technically that would be cheating. If you have 5 developers then buy 5
development licenses. If you are building a product that uses QNX at its
core, it makes no sense to try and rip off the company that will support you.

You can abuse licensing in all OS’s if you really want. Its a pretty common
practice to have a single maching configured to do a nightly build of all the
source for a project. Its trivial to extend that model to a build on demand
model where you write the code on any kind of machine you want, submit it to
the build server and then trigger a build. Hell, the clients don’t even have
to be the same OS. This works in for development in windows, unix, and qnx.

If you REALLY want to cheat, nothing will stop you. But it you do, I hope
you have trouble sleeping at night. It does not make sense to put QSS into
a position where they are not recieving revenue, remember if your product
depends on the QNX OS, you have a vested interest in keeping QSS around and
healthy. Ripping them off for developement seats doesn’t accomplish that.

[rant mode off]

Cheers,
Camz.

camz@passageway.com wrote:

vasdev <> vasdev_vs@hotmail.com> > wrote:
consider if i install QNX on Self Hosted & thro telnet i acess it on more
than 5 machines.Do i require licenses for 5m/cs ? is there any restictions
(license) to acess thro telnet.( i wonder it isn’t as i could connect at
least on 2 m/cs, i am yet to try on other).If i can do this, then i can take
one license & 5 peoiple can use it thro telnet. Is it legal ? i feel QSSL
should restrict using like this by some licence key etc ( Please see that i
am talking about Self hosted)

[rant mode on]

Technically that would be cheating. If you have 5 developers then buy 5
development licenses. If you are building a product that uses QNX at its
core, it makes no sense to try and rip off the company that will support you.
No… you can (and one does) do the same thing with TCP/IP licenses for QNX 4.

How many TCP/IP licenses does a 5 node QNX system “need”? Licensing answer,
“5”, practical answer, “1” :slight_smile:

The impact is that you will (may) suffer performance degradation, both on the
TCP/IP front, and on the gcc CPU front :slight_smile:

Consider this – you have a C compiler licensed on one node; you have 50 developers.
If they’re all comfortable with building their project on node 1, well, that’s
fine. If not, they’ll need 50 licenses.


You can abuse licensing in all OS’s if you really want. Its a pretty common
practice to have a single maching configured to do a nightly build of all the
source for a project. Its trivial to extend that model to a build on demand
model where you write the code on any kind of machine you want, submit it to
the build server and then trigger a build. Hell, the clients don’t even have
to be the same OS. This works in for development in windows, unix, and qnx.

If you REALLY want to cheat, nothing will stop you. But it you do, I hope
you have trouble sleeping at night. It does not make sense to put QSS into
a position where they are not recieving revenue, remember if your product
depends on the QNX OS, you have a vested interest in keeping QSS around and
healthy. Ripping them off for developement seats doesn’t accomplish that.

Dunno about that, see above :slight_smile:
I sleep pretty well with just one TCP/IP license.

Cheers,
-RK

[rant mode off]

Cheers,
Camz.


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