photon starts looking "weird" after a while

I downloaded the QNX RTP, installed it and it worked fine. After
starting it up a few times (including starting win95 in between), the
graphics in the QNX system looked really weird.
I was able to use the window system (what I understand is called
“Photon” please correct me if I’m wrong), though many things seemed to
have become “invisible”. That is, when clicking the “start-menu” (bottom
left corner), all the options are available, but the fonts are written
directly onto the desktop, without the “grey box” underneath it.
The same thing when starting, say, Voyager. The window appears, but you
can see the desktop straight “through” it, and you can’t see all the
buttons (back, forward, stop, etc) nor any web page.

I tried to re-install the QNX RTP, and the same thing happened. First:
works okay, then after a while: looks weird and is pretty unusable.

I’m thankful for any help. This OS is better than others I’ve tried (Be,
Linux), seems quite speedy, and has also the best looks of all systems
I’ve tried (I mean Photon).

My system is a P166 w/ 80MB ram, graphics card: S3 Trio64V+, now
dual-booting QNX RTP and Windows 95B (FAT32)

/ Jonathan Johnsson

ps If I knew how to make a “print screen”, I would have attached it to
this post.

Jonathan Johnsson <jonathanjohnsson@hotmail.com> wrote:
: ps If I knew how to make a “print screen”, I would have attached it to
: this post.

Use the snapshot utility.


Steve Reid stever@qnx.com
TechPubs (Technical Publications)
QNX Software Systems Ltd.

I’m attaching a screenshot now. I didn’t manage to get the transparent
windows into this screenshot, so it doesn’t fully demonstrate the
problem I have. When I tried again (after restarting) all was looking
fine again. I’ll post another screenshot when I manage to get a better
one.
/ Jonathan

Steve Reid wrote:

Jonathan Johnsson <> jonathanjohnsson@hotmail.com> > wrote:
: ps If I knew how to make a “print screen”, I would have attached it to
: this post.

Use the snapshot utility.


Steve Reid > stever@qnx.com
TechPubs (Technical Publications)
QNX Software Systems Ltd.

my graphics card is S3 Trio64V+. Photon acts this strange now and then.
Usually it gets right after a few restarts, but it’s quite annoying.
(You can imagine how hard it was to take these snapshots.)

regards
Jonathan

Jesus…

“Jonathan Johnsson” <jonathanjohnsson@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:39DF61AA.EE360BD0@hotmail.com

my graphics card is S3 Trio64V+. Photon acts this strange now and then.
Usually it gets right after a few restarts, but it’s quite annoying.
(You can imagine how hard it was to take these snapshots.)

regards
Jonathan



Can you post the output of pci -V


Jonathan Johnsson <jonathanjohnsson@hotmail.com> wrote:

I downloaded the QNX RTP, installed it and it worked fine. After
starting it up a few times (including starting win95 in between), the
graphics in the QNX system looked really weird.
I was able to use the window system (what I understand is called
“Photon” please correct me if I’m wrong), though many things seemed to
have become “invisible”. That is, when clicking the “start-menu” (bottom
left corner), all the options are available, but the fonts are written
directly onto the desktop, without the “grey box” underneath it.
The same thing when starting, say, Voyager. The window appears, but you
can see the desktop straight “through” it, and you can’t see all the
buttons (back, forward, stop, etc) nor any web page.

I tried to re-install the QNX RTP, and the same thing happened. First:
works okay, then after a while: looks weird and is pretty unusable.

I’m thankful for any help. This OS is better than others I’ve tried (Be,
Linux), seems quite speedy, and has also the best looks of all systems
I’ve tried (I mean Photon).

My system is a P166 w/ 80MB ram, graphics card: S3 Trio64V+, now
dual-booting QNX RTP and Windows 95B (FAT32)

/ Jonathan Johnsson

ps If I knew how to make a “print screen”, I would have attached it to
this post.

I suppose you mean “pci -v” rather than “pci -V”? At least it seems so,
trying the command “use pci”. Since “pci” wasn’t in my path (not logging
in as root), I tried this command on the two copies of pci (they are
probably identical) I found on my harddrive, as follows:
$cd /usr/sbin
$./pci -v
Can’t locate PCI server
$
$cd /x86/usr/sbin
$./pci -v
Can’t locate PCI server
$

This is the same whether the graphics looks alright or not.

I tried to reproduce which actions made the graphics look weird (it
always starts to do so after reboot). At first everything looked
alright. Then I started lots of programs: most of the ones in the
right-most “shelf”, and realplayer and mozilla. This time the OS
suddenly “crashed” (seemed to jump out to “DOS”-mode, displaying the
whole screen full of blinking different-colored rectangles (like those
in the DOS-version of Scandisk - Surface scan), and “chewing” on the
harddrive), and CTRL-ALT-DELETE made no effect.
After rebooting, the graphics was weird. The same thing has happened
before, without the OS crashing the previous session.
My best guess is that it’s Mozilla that somehow causes the graphics
problems, since this is still alpha/beta software.

Next time the graphics is fine, I’ll try running only Mozilla and then
rebooting, to see if this is it. I can’t spend more time trying this
now, got to go studying :frowning:.

/ Jonathan

PS pci -V gives this result:
$ ./pci -V
pci: option requires an argument – V
Can’t locate PCI server
$

Michael Van Reenen wrote:

Can you post the output of pci -V

Jonathan Johnsson <> jonathanjohnsson@hotmail.com> > wrote:
I downloaded the QNX RTP, installed it and it worked fine. After
starting it up a few times (including starting win95 in between), the
graphics in the QNX system looked really weird.
I was able to use the window system (what I understand is called
“Photon” please correct me if I’m wrong), though many things seemed to
have become “invisible”. That is, when clicking the “start-menu” (bottom
left corner), all the options are available, but the fonts are written
directly onto the desktop, without the “grey box” underneath it.
The same thing when starting, say, Voyager. The window appears, but you
can see the desktop straight “through” it, and you can’t see all the
buttons (back, forward, stop, etc) nor any web page.

I tried to re-install the QNX RTP, and the same thing happened. First:
works okay, then after a while: looks weird and is pretty unusable.

I’m thankful for any help. This OS is better than others I’ve tried (Be,
Linux), seems quite speedy, and has also the best looks of all systems
I’ve tried (I mean Photon).

My system is a P166 w/ 80MB ram, graphics card: S3 Trio64V+, now
dual-booting QNX RTP and Windows 95B (FAT32)

/ Jonathan Johnsson

ps If I knew how to make a “print screen”, I would have attached it to
this post.

Jonathan Johnsson <jonathanjohnsson@hotmail.com> wrote:

I suppose you mean “pci -v” rather than “pci -V”? At least it seems so,
trying the command “use pci”. Since “pci” wasn’t in my path (not logging
in as root), I tried this command on the two copies of pci (they are
probably identical) I found on my harddrive, as follows:
$cd /usr/sbin
$./pci -v
Can’t locate PCI server
$
$cd /x86/usr/sbin
$./pci -v
Can’t locate PCI server
$

You’re not executing this as root.

Sorry I didn’t know I needed be root. Here’s pci -v:

PCI version = 2.10

Class = Bridge (Host/PCI)
Vendor ID = 8086h, Intel Corporation
Device ID = 7030h, 82437VX System Controller
PCI index = 0h
Class Codes = 060000h
Revision ID = 2h
Bus number = 0
Device number = 0
Function num = 0
Status Reg = 2200h
Command Reg = 6h
Header type = 0h Single-function
BIST = 0h Build-in-self-test not supported
Latency Timer = 20h
Cache Line Size= 0h
Max Lat = 0ns
Min Gnt = 0ns
PCI Int Pin = NC
Interrupt line = 0

Class = Bridge (PCI/ISA)
Vendor ID = 8086h, Intel Corporation
Device ID = 7000h, 82371SB PIIX3 PCI-to-ISA Bridge (Triton II)
PCI index = 0h
Class Codes = 060100h
Revision ID = 1h
Bus number = 0
Device number = 7
Function num = 0
Status Reg = 280h
Command Reg = fh
Header type = 0h Multi-function
BIST = 0h Build-in-self-test not supported
Latency Timer = 0h
Cache Line Size= 0h
Max Lat = 0ns
Min Gnt = 0ns
PCI Int Pin = NC
Interrupt line = 0

Class = Mass Storage (IDE)
Vendor ID = 8086h, Intel Corporation
Device ID = 7010h, 82371SB PIIX3 IDE Interface (Triton II)
PCI index = 0h
Class Codes = 010180h
Revision ID = 0h
Bus number = 0
Device number = 7
Function num = 1
Status Reg = 280h
Command Reg = 5h
Header type = 0h Single-function
BIST = 0h Build-in-self-test not supported
Latency Timer = 20h
Cache Line Size= 0h
IO Address = f000h length 16 enabled
Max Lat = 0ns
Min Gnt = 0ns
PCI Int Pin = NC
Interrupt line = 0

Class = Network (Ethernet)
Vendor ID = 1113h, Accton Technology Corporation
Device ID = 1211h, Unknown Unknown
PCI index = 0h
Class Codes = 020000h
Revision ID = 10h
Bus number = 0
Device number = 17
Function num = 0
Status Reg = 280h
Command Reg = 7h
Header type = 0h Single-function
BIST = 0h Build-in-self-test not supported
Latency Timer = 20h
Cache Line Size= 0h
IO Address = 6100h length 256 enabled
Mem Address = e4000000h 32bit length 256 enabled
Subsystem Vendor ID = 1113h
Subsystem ID = 9211h
Max Lat = 64ns
Min Gnt = 32ns
PCI Int Pin = INT A
Interrupt line = 9

Class = Display (VGA)
Vendor ID = 5333h, S3 Incorporated
Device ID = 8811h, 86C764/765 Trio 64/64V+ GUI Accelerator
PCI index = 0h
Class Codes = 030000h
Revision ID = 54h
Bus number = 0
Device number = 19
Function num = 0
Status Reg = 200h
Command Reg = 3h
Header type = 0h Single-function
BIST = 0h Build-in-self-test not supported
Latency Timer = 0h
Cache Line Size= 0h
Mem Address = e0000000h 32bit length 67108864 enabled
Expansion ROM = ffef0000h length 65536 disabled
Max Lat = 0ns
Min Gnt = 0ns
PCI Int Pin = INT A
Interrupt line = 11

I’ve also verified that my installation of QNXRTP crashes after running
Mozilla for a while (at least I can’t make it to respond). Next restart,
graphics is all strange.

Thank you for all your help!

/ Jonathan

pete@qnx.com wrote:

Jonathan Johnsson <> jonathanjohnsson@hotmail.com> > wrote:
I suppose you mean “pci -v” rather than “pci -V”? At least it seems so,
trying the command “use pci”. Since “pci” wasn’t in my path (not logging
in as root), I tried this command on the two copies of pci (they are
probably identical) I found on my harddrive, as follows:
$cd /usr/sbin
$./pci -v
Can’t locate PCI server
$
$cd /x86/usr/sbin
$./pci -v
Can’t locate PCI server
$

You’re not executing this as root.

I am unable to reproduce this exact problem, but from the
screen shots you sent, a similar problem was fixed in the
S3 driver. Wait for a new driver in a patch to see if that
solves your problem as well.


Jonathan Johnsson <jonathanjohnsson@hotmail.com> wrote:

Sorry I didn’t know I needed be root. Here’s pci -v:

PCI version = 2.10

Class = Bridge (Host/PCI)
Vendor ID = 8086h, Intel Corporation
Device ID = 7030h, 82437VX System Controller
PCI index = 0h
Class Codes = 060000h
Revision ID = 2h
Bus number = 0
Device number = 0
Function num = 0
Status Reg = 2200h
Command Reg = 6h
Header type = 0h Single-function
BIST = 0h Build-in-self-test not supported
Latency Timer = 20h
Cache Line Size= 0h
Max Lat = 0ns
Min Gnt = 0ns
PCI Int Pin = NC
Interrupt line = 0

Class = Bridge (PCI/ISA)
Vendor ID = 8086h, Intel Corporation
Device ID = 7000h, 82371SB PIIX3 PCI-to-ISA Bridge (Triton II)
PCI index = 0h
Class Codes = 060100h
Revision ID = 1h
Bus number = 0
Device number = 7
Function num = 0
Status Reg = 280h
Command Reg = fh
Header type = 0h Multi-function
BIST = 0h Build-in-self-test not supported
Latency Timer = 0h
Cache Line Size= 0h
Max Lat = 0ns
Min Gnt = 0ns
PCI Int Pin = NC
Interrupt line = 0

Class = Mass Storage (IDE)
Vendor ID = 8086h, Intel Corporation
Device ID = 7010h, 82371SB PIIX3 IDE Interface (Triton II)
PCI index = 0h
Class Codes = 010180h
Revision ID = 0h
Bus number = 0
Device number = 7
Function num = 1
Status Reg = 280h
Command Reg = 5h
Header type = 0h Single-function
BIST = 0h Build-in-self-test not supported
Latency Timer = 20h
Cache Line Size= 0h
IO Address = f000h length 16 enabled
Max Lat = 0ns
Min Gnt = 0ns
PCI Int Pin = NC
Interrupt line = 0

Class = Network (Ethernet)
Vendor ID = 1113h, Accton Technology Corporation
Device ID = 1211h, Unknown Unknown
PCI index = 0h
Class Codes = 020000h
Revision ID = 10h
Bus number = 0
Device number = 17
Function num = 0
Status Reg = 280h
Command Reg = 7h
Header type = 0h Single-function
BIST = 0h Build-in-self-test not supported
Latency Timer = 20h
Cache Line Size= 0h
IO Address = 6100h length 256 enabled
Mem Address = e4000000h 32bit length 256 enabled
Subsystem Vendor ID = 1113h
Subsystem ID = 9211h
Max Lat = 64ns
Min Gnt = 32ns
PCI Int Pin = INT A
Interrupt line = 9

Class = Display (VGA)
Vendor ID = 5333h, S3 Incorporated
Device ID = 8811h, 86C764/765 Trio 64/64V+ GUI Accelerator
PCI index = 0h
Class Codes = 030000h
Revision ID = 54h
Bus number = 0
Device number = 19
Function num = 0
Status Reg = 200h
Command Reg = 3h
Header type = 0h Single-function
BIST = 0h Build-in-self-test not supported
Latency Timer = 0h
Cache Line Size= 0h
Mem Address = e0000000h 32bit length 67108864 enabled
Expansion ROM = ffef0000h length 65536 disabled
Max Lat = 0ns
Min Gnt = 0ns
PCI Int Pin = INT A
Interrupt line = 11

I’ve also verified that my installation of QNXRTP crashes after running
Mozilla for a while (at least I can’t make it to respond). Next restart,
graphics is all strange.

Thank you for all your help!

/ Jonathan

pete@qnx.com > wrote:

Jonathan Johnsson <> jonathanjohnsson@hotmail.com> > wrote:
I suppose you mean “pci -v” rather than “pci -V”? At least it seems so,
trying the command “use pci”. Since “pci” wasn’t in my path (not logging
in as root), I tried this command on the two copies of pci (they are
probably identical) I found on my harddrive, as follows:
$cd /usr/sbin
$./pci -v
Can’t locate PCI server
$
$cd /x86/usr/sbin
$./pci -v
Can’t locate PCI server
$

You’re not executing this as root.