Does Scitech Display Doctor will be included in Patch A?

And what version is it?
(Current OS/2 SDD is 7.0.4)

Oleg Bulavsky.

Hi Oleg,

Scitech is interested in making a release for the RTP (“QNX6”), but
are currently waiting for the Graphics Driver Development Kit to be
released. Otherwise they are the best people to talk to about this.



Oleg Bulavsky <bulch@ftc.ru> wrote:

And what version is it?
(Current OS/2 SDD is 7.0.4)

Oleg Bulavsky.

Hello!
Scitech answer me with that info:

QNX has licensed SciTech Nucleus and they are in control of the generic
components specific to QNX. It is also their responsibility for
distributing the Nucleus drivers that they have licensed from SciTech.
You would need to get the drivers from QNX.
I’m not sure what version of the drivers they are shipping, but it is not
the latest. QNX will not have access to the latest drivers until the
renew their license with SciTech and they have not done that yet.
Hopefully that sheds some light on the situation…

Where are the truth?

Oleg.

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Hi Oleg,
Scitech is interested in making a release for the RTP (“QNX6”), but
are currently waiting for the Graphics Driver Development Kit to be
released. Otherwise they are the best people to talk to about this.
Oleg Bulavsky <> bulch@ftc.ru> > wrote:
And what version is it?
(Current OS/2 SDD is 7.0.4)
Oleg Bulavsky.

“Oleg Bulavsky” <bulch@ftc.ru> wrote in message
news:94qsvl$dni$1@inn.qnx.com

Hello!
Scitech answer me with that info:
QNX has licensed SciTech Nucleus and they are in control of the generic
components specific to QNX. It is also their responsibility for
distributing the Nucleus drivers that they have licensed from SciTech.
You would need to get the drivers from QNX.
I’m not sure what version of the drivers they are shipping, but it is
not
the latest. QNX will not have access to the latest drivers until the
renew their license with SciTech and they have not done that yet.
Hopefully that sheds some light on the situation…

Where are the truth?

Oleg.

It’s out there. Ask Fox Molder :wink:

  • igor

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???: Re: Does Scitech Display Doctor will be included in Patch A?
Hi Oleg,
Scitech is interested in making a release for the RTP (“QNX6”), but
are currently waiting for the Graphics Driver Development Kit to be
released. Otherwise they are the best people to talk to about this.
Oleg Bulavsky <> bulch@ftc.ru> > wrote:
And what version is it?
(Current OS/2 SDD is 7.0.4)
Oleg Bulavsky.
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“Igor Kovalenko” <kovalenko@home.com> wrote in message
news:94qvdc$eth$1@inn.qnx.com

“Oleg Bulavsky” <> bulch@ftc.ru> > wrote in message
news:94qsvl$dni$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Hello!
Scitech answer me with that info:
QNX has licensed SciTech Nucleus and they are in control of the
generic
components specific to QNX. It is also their responsibility for
distributing the Nucleus drivers that they have licensed from SciTech.
You would need to get the drivers from QNX.
I’m not sure what version of the drivers they are shipping, but it is
not
the latest. QNX will not have access to the latest drivers until the
renew their license with SciTech and they have not done that yet.
Hopefully that sheds some light on the situation…

Where are the truth?

Oleg.


It’s out there. Ask Fox Molder > :wink:

Actually you would have to ask Scully. Molder has
been captured by Aliens and is currently unavailable to answer
any question,

  • igor

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??: Hardware Support Account <> hw@qnx.com
??? ???: qdn.public.qnxrtp.photon
???: Re: Does Scitech Display Doctor will be included in Patch A?
Hi Oleg,
Scitech is interested in making a release for the RTP (“QNX6”), but
are currently waiting for the Graphics Driver Development Kit to be
released. Otherwise they are the best people to talk to about this.
Oleg Bulavsky <> bulch@ftc.ru> > wrote:
And what version is it?
(Current OS/2 SDD is 7.0.4)
Oleg Bulavsky.

\

Hi Oleg,

The response you got from Scitech is regarding older Scitech Offerings
meaning (QNX Windows and X11 for QNX).

However for the QNX RTP they are awaiting our graphics DDK, wether or
not they will distribute a port of thier display doctor is another
question that is best left to them.

So at this time there hasn’t been a port of the Scitech Display doctor for
the RTP, however Scitech has shown interest in doing so. However as I
mentioned, they are waiting for us to finish the Graphics DDK so they
can get started.



Oleg Bulavsky <bulch@ftc.ru> wrote:

Hello!
Scitech answer me with that info:
QNX has licensed SciTech Nucleus and they are in control of the generic
components specific to QNX. It is also their responsibility for
distributing the Nucleus drivers that they have licensed from SciTech.
You would need to get the drivers from QNX.
I’m not sure what version of the drivers they are shipping, but it is not
the latest. QNX will not have access to the latest drivers until the
renew their license with SciTech and they have not done that yet.
Hopefully that sheds some light on the situation…

Where are the truth?

Oleg.

----- ??? ??? -----
??: Hardware Support Account <> hw@qnx.com
??? ???: qdn.public.qnxrtp.photon
???: Re: Does Scitech Display Doctor will be included in Patch A?
Hi Oleg,
Scitech is interested in making a release for the RTP (“QNX6”), but
are currently waiting for the Graphics Driver Development Kit to be
released. Otherwise they are the best people to talk to about this.
Oleg Bulavsky <> bulch@ftc.ru> > wrote:
And what version is it?
(Current OS/2 SDD is 7.0.4)
Oleg Bulavsky.

Mario Charest wrote:

“Igor Kovalenko” <> kovalenko@home.com> > wrote in message
news:94qvdc$eth$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
“Oleg Bulavsky” <> bulch@ftc.ru> > wrote in message
news:94qsvl$dni$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Hello!
Scitech answer me with that info:
QNX has licensed SciTech Nucleus and they are in control of the
generic
components specific to QNX. It is also their responsibility for
distributing the Nucleus drivers that they have licensed from SciTech.
You would need to get the drivers from QNX.
I’m not sure what version of the drivers they are shipping, but it is
not
the latest. QNX will not have access to the latest drivers until the
renew their license with SciTech and they have not done that yet.
Hopefully that sheds some light on the situation…

Where are the truth?

Oleg.


It’s out there. Ask Fox Molder > :wink:

Actually you would have to ask Scully. Molder has
been captured by Aliens and is currently unavailable to answer
any question,

I just called Scully and she tells that SciTech drivers were only
avialable for Metrolink X and QNX Windows under QNX4 and that was
because QNX did not want to bother writing drivers for those systems
anymore.

As for Photon/Neutrino they seem to be busy writing their own drivers.

  • igor
  • igor

----- ??? ??? -----
??: Hardware Support Account <> hw@qnx.com
??? ???: qdn.public.qnxrtp.photon
???: Re: Does Scitech Display Doctor will be included in Patch A?
Hi Oleg,
Scitech is interested in making a release for the RTP (“QNX6”), but
are currently waiting for the Graphics Driver Development Kit to be
released. Otherwise they are the best people to talk to about this.
Oleg Bulavsky <> bulch@ftc.ru> > wrote:
And what version is it?
(Current OS/2 SDD is 7.0.4)
Oleg Bulavsky.

\

Oleg Bulavsky <bulch@ftc.ru> wrote:

And what version is it?
(Current OS/2 SDD is 7.0.4)

Oleg Bulavsky.

QSS licensed the Scitech Technology specifically to provide support for
QNX Windows and XWindows under QNX 4.xx

It will not be included with RTP

“Igor Kovalenko” <Igor.Kovalenko@motorola.com> wrote in message

It’s out there. Ask Fox Molder > :wink:

Actually you would have to ask Scully. Molder has
been captured by Aliens and is currently unavailable to answer
any question,


I just called Scully and she tells that SciTech drivers were only
avialable for Metrolink X and QNX Windows under QNX4 and that was
because QNX did not want to bother writing drivers for those systems
anymore.

btw, it’s Mulder (you two are clearly conspiring to spread fear, uncertainty
and doubt, regarding the spelling of certain fictional characters names :slight_smile:
Now, having cleared that up, I can get back to investigating who is really
behind the California power crisis :wink:

Rennie

<pete@qnx.com> ÐÉÛÅÔ × ÓÏÏÂÝÅÎÉÉ:953uin$595$3@nntp.qnx.com

Oleg Bulavsky <> bulch@ftc.ru> > wrote:
And what version is it?
(Current OS/2 SDD is 7.0.4)
Oleg Bulavsky.

QSS licensed the Scitech Technology specifically to provide support for
QNX Windows and XWindows under QNX 4.xx
It will not be included with RTP

Why!!!
It work so fine on OS/2 and support HUGE number of videocards!

Oleg Bulavsky.

Oleg Bulavsky <bulch@ftc.ru> wrote:

pete@qnx.com> > Ð
Oleg Bulavsky <> bulch@ftc.ru> > wrote:
And what version is it?
(Current OS/2 SDD is 7.0.4)
Oleg Bulavsky.

QSS licensed the Scitech Technology specifically to provide support for
QNX Windows and XWindows under QNX 4.xx
It will not be included with RTP

Why!!!

Because we would have to pay a licensing fee for each copy of RTP
downloaded. That would mean instead of just giving it away free, we would be
selling RTP for a negative amount.

Scitech is free to release it themselves, and charge you money for the
drivers directly.

<pete@qnx.com> wrote in message news:95cf9h$6b9$3@nntp.qnx.com

Because we would have to pay a licensing fee for each copy of RTP
downloaded. That would mean instead of just giving it away free, we would
be
selling RTP for a negative amount.

10 months ago you would have been able to go public with this business model
and raise a few billion dollars; alas, investors no longer understand the
negative revenue business model :slight_smile:

Rennie

Oleg Bulavsky <bulch@ftc.ru> wrote:

Oleg Bulavsky <> bulch@ftc.ru> > wrote:
And what version is it?
(Current OS/2 SDD is 7.0.4)
Oleg Bulavsky.

QSS licensed the Scitech Technology specifically to provide support for
QNX Windows and XWindows under QNX 4.xx
It will not be included with RTP

Why!!!
It work so fine on OS/2 and support HUGE number of videocards!

We give away RTP for free, but we cannot give away Scitech Display
Doctor for free. :frowning: That is why it is not included.

Oleg Bulavsky.

Hardware Support Account <hw@qnx.com> ÐÉÛÅÔ ×
ÓÏÏÂÝÅÎÉÉ:95f96s$pem$1@nntp.qnx.com

QSS licensed the Scitech Technology specifically to provide support for
QNX Windows and XWindows under QNX 4.xx
It will not be included with RTP
Why!!!
It work so fine on OS/2 and support HUGE number of videocards!
We give away RTP for free, but we cannot give away Scitech Display
Doctor for free. > :frowning: > That is why it is not included.

IBM license limited “special edition” of SDD for OS/2 and provide it as free
download!
What is a advantage of hard development of videodrivers by hand, one by one
for a long
time and let RTP users long wait for needed driver instead of licensing
limited version
of universal driver that already support most cards? Do You think that You
save some
money developing drivers byself? There are HUGE amount of videocards!
Scitech
develop their driver about 2 years. Do You think that all that users that
look at RTP with
interest right now will wait “some” years while You write driver for
videocard that they
use? You will do best if You will try to improve RTP instead of writing
drivers for all
and any possible videocards… And all users (some of them are developers)
can help You
do it right now instead of waiting working videodriver…

WBW,
Oleg Bulavsky.

“Oleg Bulavsky” <bulch@ftc.ru> wrote in message
news:95ocr9$l3i$1@inn.qnx.com

Hardware Support Account <> hw@qnx.com> > ÐÉÛÅÔ ×
ÓÏÏÂÝÅÎÉÉ:95f96s$pem$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> …
QSS licensed the Scitech Technology specifically to provide support
for
QNX Windows and XWindows under QNX 4.xx
It will not be included with RTP
Why!!!
It work so fine on OS/2 and support HUGE number of videocards!
We give away RTP for free, but we cannot give away Scitech Display
Doctor for free. > :frowning: > That is why it is not included.

IBM license limited “special edition” of SDD for OS/2 and provide it as
free
download!

Have you called IBM and asked what number what on the paycheck they sent to
Scitech?
Alas, it did not help OS/2 much anyway.

What is a advantage of hard development of videodrivers by hand, one by
one
for a long
time and let RTP users long wait for needed driver instead of licensing
limited version
of universal driver that already support most cards? Do You think that
You
save some
money developing drivers byself? There are HUGE amount of videocards!

Wow, that’s a divine discovery. Pete’s gonna just love it :slight_smile:

Scitech
develop their driver about 2 years. Do You think that all that users that
look at RTP with
interest right now will wait “some” years while You write driver for
videocard that they
use? You will do best if You will try to improve RTP instead of writing
drivers for all
and any possible videocards… And all users (some of them are developers)
can help You
do it right now instead of waiting working videodriver…

Ever heard about egg/chicken problem Oleg? SciTech would not write drivers
for QNX on their own unless there is at least a) an established graphics DDK
and b) considerable user base for a reasonable business case. They could
license QNX to write drivers, but that a) defeats the purpose since QNX
still has to write drivers and b) there would be a royalty for each copy,
which means it would not be free.

Don’t know if it is news for you, but you can’t really build an established
DDK until you write and rewrite quite a few drivers and that’s what QNX is
doing. May be if user base continues to expand like it did in last month
then SciTech indeed will write drivers and may be there even will be a deal
between them and QNX to distribute a ‘limited edition’ for free.

  • Igor

Oleg Bulavsky <bulch@ftc.ru> wrote:

IBM license limited “special edition” of SDD for OS/2 and provide it as free
download!

Good for them. Do they distribute OS/2 free now too… at least for non
commercial use?

What is a advantage of hard development of videodrivers by hand, one by one
for a long
time and let RTP users long wait for needed driver instead of licensing
limited version
of universal driver that already support most cards?

You are trying to make it sound like there are only two choices here.

I already told you why we didn’t license Scitech drivers for distribution
with RTP.

Now you are trying to make it sound like the only alternative now is for
eveyone to wait for us to write a driver for them, but that’s not the case.

Do You think that You save some money developing drivers byself?

I already told you this. We do save money.

There are HUGE amount of videocards!

Yes… we know that.

Scitech develop their driver about 2 years.

Yes… we know the people at Scitech, how long they’ve been in business, what
they do, etc.

Do You think that all that users that look at RTP with interest right now
will wait “some” years while You write driver for videocard that they
use?

No… I don’t think that at all.

You will do best if You will try to improve RTP instead of writing
drivers for all and any possible videocards…

We are not trying to write drivers for any and all possible video cards.

And all users (some of them are developers) can help You do it right now
instead of waiting working videodriver…

I’m not sure what your point is.