OpenWatcom and QNX?

I was just wondering whether there will be a possibility to use OpenWatcom
(when it will be released) in QNX environment instead of GNU-devtools?

-Reko

Please say YES!

I am summarily unimpressed with the GNU compilers. Let’s have a show of
hands from the “Me Too’s”


Reko Turja <ignaz@swagman.org> wrote in message
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I was just wondering whether there will be a possibility to use OpenWatcom
(when it will be released) in QNX environment instead of GNU-devtools?

-Reko

What’s wrong with GNU besides the slow compilation speed?
Markus

“Bill at Sierra Design” <BC@SierraDesign.com> wrote in message
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Please say YES!

I am summarily unimpressed with the GNU compilers. Let’s have a show of
hands from the “Me Too’s”


Reko Turja <> ignaz@swagman.org> > wrote in message
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I was just wondering whether there will be a possibility to use
OpenWatcom
(when it will be released) in QNX environment instead of GNU-devtools?

-Reko
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Larger and slower executables.
And, there are several combinations of C++ features that don’t work
together. Exceptions and RTTI head that list.


Markus Loffler <loffler@ces.clemson.edu> wrote in message
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What’s wrong with GNU besides the slow compilation speed?
Markus

“Bill at Sierra Design” <> BC@SierraDesign.com> > wrote in message
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Please say YES!

I am summarily unimpressed with the GNU compilers. Let’s have a show of
hands from the “Me Too’s”


Reko Turja <> ignaz@swagman.org> > wrote in message
news:96iu50$298$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
I was just wondering whether there will be a possibility to use
OpenWatcom
(when it will be released) in QNX environment instead of GNU-devtools?

-Reko


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Well, I don’t know about the latest version of Watcom - the Watcom I used
for QNX4 was limited with respect to C++. (templates)
You are right about the larger executables (especially with debug symbols).


“Bill at Sierra Design” <BC@SierraDesign.com> wrote in message
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Larger and slower executables.
And, there are several combinations of C++ features that don’t work
together. Exceptions and RTTI head that list.


Markus Loffler <> loffler@ces.clemson.edu> > wrote in message
news:96jp3l$hgk$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
What’s wrong with GNU besides the slow compilation speed?
Markus

“Bill at Sierra Design” <> BC@SierraDesign.com> > wrote in message
news:96jkf1$eob$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Please say YES!

I am summarily unimpressed with the GNU compilers. Let’s have a show
of
hands from the “Me Too’s”


Reko Turja <> ignaz@swagman.org> > wrote in message
news:96iu50$298$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
I was just wondering whether there will be a possibility to use
OpenWatcom
(when it will be released) in QNX environment instead of
GNU-devtools?

-Reko




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“Markus Loffler” <loffler@ces.clemson.edu> wrote in message
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What’s wrong with GNU besides the slow compilation speed?
Markus

As default Watcom passes arguments to functions via registers - this tend to
speed up execution. In addition called function cleans up the stack. Neat &
efficient. What I know, Watcom has been previously available for QNX4 (I was
interested about QNX myself that way) and Watcom’s handling of function
calls somehow sounds very suitable for RTOS’s.

-Reko

I was using the V 11.0 beta. I thought it worked well. It seamed to
support most of the final C++ features.

There were complaints about multi-threaded apps not working correctly, but
at this point I blame that on the QNX V 4.xx OS. After all, what could
anyone possible do with multiple threads when errno isn’t thread safe. I
guess you could do anything you wanted as long as it didn’t include IO or
message passing. (Gee, I guess that’s a short list after all.)


Markus Loffler <loffler@ces.clemson.edu> wrote in message
news:96jrkr$itt$1@inn.qnx.com

Well, I don’t know about the latest version of Watcom - the Watcom I used
for QNX4 was limited with respect to C++. (templates)
You are right about the larger executables (especially with debug
symbols).

Previously, Bill at Sierra Design wrote in qdn.public.qnxrtp.devtools:

Please say YES!

Please !



I am summarily unimpressed with the GNU compilers. Let’s have a show of
hands from the “Me Too’s”


Reko Turja <> ignaz@swagman.org> > wrote in message
news:96iu50$298$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
I was just wondering whether there will be a possibility to use OpenWatcom
(when it will be released) in QNX environment instead of GNU-devtools?

-Reko

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There’s also Watcom’s kick-ass debugger.

Ian Cannon wrote:

Previously, Bill at Sierra Design wrote in qdn.public.qnxrtp.devtools:
Please say YES!

Please !

I am summarily unimpressed with the GNU compilers. Let’s have a show of
hands from the “Me Too’s”


Reko Turja <> ignaz@swagman.org> > wrote in message
news:96iu50$298$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
I was just wondering whether there will be a possibility to use OpenWatcom
(when it will be released) in QNX environment instead of GNU-devtools?

-Reko

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I believe errno is thread-safe in neutrino, if not QNX 4, being implemented in
thread-specific data and accessed via a macro in errno.h.

Bill at Sierra Design wrote:

I was using the V 11.0 beta. I thought it worked well. It seamed to
support most of the final C++ features.

There were complaints about multi-threaded apps not working correctly, but
at this point I blame that on the QNX V 4.xx OS. After all, what could
anyone possible do with multiple threads when errno isn’t thread safe. I
guess you could do anything you wanted as long as it didn’t include IO or
message passing. (Gee, I guess that’s a short list after all.)

Markus Loffler <> loffler@ces.clemson.edu> > wrote in message
news:96jrkr$itt$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Well, I don’t know about the latest version of Watcom - the Watcom I used
for QNX4 was limited with respect to C++. (templates)
You are right about the larger executables (especially with debug
symbols).

John H. Zouck
The Johns Hopkins University
Applied Physics Laboratory

Just thinking about it I can’t wait !

Fred.

Dean Douthat wrote in message <3A91361A.EE7AACC9@faac.com>…

There’s also Watcom’s kick-ass debugger.

Ian Cannon wrote:

Previously, Bill at Sierra Design wrote in qdn.public.qnxrtp.devtools:
Please say YES!

Please !

I am summarily unimpressed with the GNU compilers. Let’s have a show
of
hands from the “Me Too’s”


Reko Turja <> ignaz@swagman.org> > wrote in message
news:96iu50$298$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
I was just wondering whether there will be a possibility to use
OpenWatcom
(when it will be released) in QNX environment instead of
GNU-devtools?

-Reko


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