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1

I was told about a year ago by a QSSL UK employee that work was being
done on a QNX NTO IDE. What’s the progress on this? Currently I’m
using NEdit and GDE (the most minimalist IDE you can imagine), which
is ok, but my productivity isn’t all it could be.

Which reminds me, is there any way of getting XPhoton to understand
the numeric keypad, and the current keyboard settings in
Localization? And how about unifying the Photon and XPhoton cut and
paste buffers? Or is the latter impossible?

Also, is there ongoing work being done to improve XPhoton? It is
currently quite slow and unstable, and has the feel of an early beta.
Sometimes it crashes, taking down all running XPhoton applications.
If I try to restart it with
XPhoton -once&
it has redraw problems, fixed only by restarting Photon itself. If
you haven’t had these problems, I’ll try to find a repeatable test
case, although the crashes are fairly rare (1 per day) and don’t
seem to follow much of a pattern.

I’m using QNX 6.1

Tom

2

You could try Source Navigator by Redhat, it is available at
sources.redhat.com/sourcenav. It is a maximalist IDE.

-----Original Message-----
From: tom_usenet@hotmail.com [mailto:tom_usenet@hotmail.com]
Posted At: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:40 AM
Posted To: devtools
Conversation: IDE
Subject: IDE


I was told about a year ago by a QSSL UK employee that work was being
done on a QNX NTO IDE. What’s the progress on this? Currently I’m
using NEdit and GDE (the most minimalist IDE you can imagine), which
is ok, but my productivity isn’t all it could be.

Which reminds me, is there any way of getting XPhoton to understand
the numeric keypad, and the current keyboard settings in
Localization? And how about unifying the Photon and XPhoton cut and
paste buffers? Or is the latter impossible?

Also, is there ongoing work being done to improve XPhoton? It is
currently quite slow and unstable, and has the feel of an early beta.
Sometimes it crashes, taking down all running XPhoton applications.
If I try to restart it with
XPhoton -once&
it has redraw problems, fixed only by restarting Photon itself. If
you haven’t had these problems, I’ll try to find a repeatable test
case, although the crashes are fairly rare (1 per day) and don’t
seem to follow much of a pattern.

I’m using QNX 6.1

Tom

3

Hi Rennie…

I wonder, have you built this source in rtp6.1? If so, any thing to
look for?

Bests…

Miguel.



Rennie Allen wrote:

You could try Source Navigator by Redhat, it is available at
sources.redhat.com/sourcenav. It is a maximalist IDE.

–

my opinions are mine, only mine, solely mine, and they are not related
in any possible way to the institution(s) in which I study and work.

Miguel Simon
Research Engineer
School of Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering
University of Oklahoma
http://www.amerobotics.ou.edu/
http://www.saic.com

4

I have built it in 6.1. It takes a long time (it took me about 8 hours
on a 333Mhz Pentium), but is relatively uneventfull. After it is built,
there are minor irritants that are Source Nav/Xphoton interactions, but
it is IMHO the best IDE available for RtP right now. It has a makefile
builder, a graphical diff, a hyperlinked editor, and a built in
graphical front end for CVS. It also intergrates very well with either
nedit or emacs (although it will work with any editor that has a server
mode).

-----Original Message-----
From: Miguel Simon [mailto:simon@ou.edu]
Posted At: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:53 PM
Posted To: devtools
Conversation: IDE
Subject: Re: IDE


Hi Rennie…

I wonder, have you built this source in rtp6.1? If so, any thing to
look for?

Bests…

Miguel.



Rennie Allen wrote:

You could try Source Navigator by Redhat, it is available at
sources.redhat.com/sourcenav. It is a maximalist IDE.

–

my opinions are mine, only mine, solely mine, and they are not related
in any possible way to the institution(s) in which I study and work.

Miguel Simon
Research Engineer
School of Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering
University of Oklahoma
http://www.amerobotics.ou.edu/
http://www.saic.com

5

Two questions:

  1. What does it use for debugging? ddd? gdb? something of its own?
  2. Would you be willing to post/package executables?

Rennie Allen wrote:

I have built it in 6.1. It takes a long time (it took me about 8 hours
on a 333Mhz Pentium), but is relatively uneventfull. After it is built,
there are minor irritants that are Source Nav/Xphoton interactions, but
it is IMHO the best IDE available for RtP right now. It has a makefile
builder, a graphical diff, a hyperlinked editor, and a built in
graphical front end for CVS. It also intergrates very well with either
nedit or emacs (although it will work with any editor that has a server
mode).

-----Original Message-----
From: Miguel Simon [mailto:> simon@ou.edu> ]
Posted At: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:53 PM
Posted To: devtools
Conversation: IDE
Subject: Re: IDE

Hi Rennie…

I wonder, have you built this source in rtp6.1? If so, any thing to
look for?

Bests…

Miguel.

Rennie Allen wrote:

You could try Source Navigator by Redhat, it is available at
sources.redhat.com/sourcenav. It is a maximalist IDE.

\

my opinions are mine, only mine, solely mine, and they are not related
in any possible way to the institution(s) in which I study and work.

Miguel Simon
Research Engineer
School of Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering
University of Oklahoma
http://www.amerobotics.ou.edu/
http://www.saic.com

6

“Rennie Allen” <RAllen@csical.com> wrote in message
news:64F00D816A85D51198390050046F80C9CE0A@exchangecal.hq.csical.com…

I have built it in 6.1. It takes a long time (it took me about 8 hours
on a 333Mhz Pentium), but is relatively uneventfull. After it is built,
there are minor irritants that are Source Nav/Xphoton interactions, but
it is IMHO the best IDE available for RtP right now. It has a makefile
builder, a graphical diff, a hyperlinked editor, and a built in
graphical front end for CVS. It also intergrates very well with either
nedit or emacs (although it will work with any editor that has a server
mode).

Could you define an editor with server mode?

7

An editor with server mode is an editor to which you can send messages
from an external utility. Source Navigator uses this feature to
position the cursor on source lines, and to detect when a change has
been made to a file (i.e. the editor sends a message to SN saying that
the file has been saved) so that it can update its database. Nedit
supports sending messages to the server, but does not support sending
write updates back to SN. Emacs supports both (assuming the presence of
UDS). Nedits lack of a write notification is not a problem in my
opinion, because I most often do not want SN to rebuild it’s database
every time I save anyway (i.e. I’d rather just tell SN when to update).

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Caroselli (Q-TPS) [mailto:qtps@earthlink.net]
Posted At: Thursday, September 20, 2001 7:34 AM
Posted To: devtools
Conversation: IDE
Subject: Re: IDE


“Rennie Allen” <RAllen@csical.com> wrote in message
news:64F00D816A85D51198390050046F80C9CE0A@exchangecal.hq.csical.com…

I have built it in 6.1. It takes a long time (it took me about 8
hours
on a 333Mhz Pentium), but is relatively uneventfull. After it is
built,
there are minor irritants that are Source Nav/Xphoton interactions,
but
it is IMHO the best IDE available for RtP right now. It has a
makefile
builder, a graphical diff, a hyperlinked editor, and a built in
graphical front end for CVS. It also intergrates very well with
either
nedit or emacs (although it will work with any editor that has a
server
mode).

Could you define an editor with server mode?

8

SN can use a variety of debuggers, however it is designed to use the
insight graphical front end (also from Redhat) which is a very nice
(much nicer than ddd IMO) graphical front end for gdb. However, I
haven’t ported insight yet (I’m still a command line guy when it comes
to debuggers).

I would be more than willing to post a .qpr for Source Nav 5.0, but
right now, I have nowhere to post it (believe it or not, there is no DSL
or Cable available where I live, just 25 miles from Irvine, CA :frowning:.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Douthat [mailto:ddouthat@faac.com]
Posted At: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 12:20 PM
Posted To: devtools
Conversation: IDE
Subject: Re: IDE


Two questions:

  1. What does it use for debugging? ddd? gdb? something of its own?
  2. Would you be willing to post/package executables?

Rennie Allen wrote:

I have built it in 6.1. It takes a long time (it took me about 8
hours
on a 333Mhz Pentium), but is relatively uneventfull. After it is
built,
there are minor irritants that are Source Nav/Xphoton interactions,
but
it is IMHO the best IDE available for RtP right now. It has a
makefile
builder, a graphical diff, a hyperlinked editor, and a built in
graphical front end for CVS. It also intergrates very well with
either
nedit or emacs (although it will work with any editor that has a
server
mode).

-----Original Message-----
From: Miguel Simon [mailto:> simon@ou.edu> ]
Posted At: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:53 PM
Posted To: devtools
Conversation: IDE
Subject: Re: IDE

Hi Rennie…

I wonder, have you built this source in rtp6.1? If so, any thing to
look for?

Bests…

Miguel.

Rennie Allen wrote:

You could try Source Navigator by Redhat, it is available at
sources.redhat.com/sourcenav. It is a maximalist IDE.

\

my opinions are mine, only mine, solely mine, and they are not related
in any possible way to the institution(s) in which I study and work.

Miguel Simon
Research Engineer
School of Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering
University of Oklahoma
http://www.amerobotics.ou.edu/
http://www.saic.com

9

Lots people think Insight is the best GUI debugger (ddd is still
second to the best). I will post a port of Insight when I have
some free time.
Rennie, have you found a place for your SourceNav5.0 yet? Maybe
you can put it on sourceforge. Check with Armin.
Frank

Rennie Allen <RAllen@csical.com> wrote:

SN can use a variety of debuggers, however it is designed to use the
insight graphical front end (also from Redhat) which is a very nice
(much nicer than ddd IMO) graphical front end for gdb. However, I
haven’t ported insight yet (I’m still a command line guy when it comes
to debuggers).

I would be more than willing to post a .qpr for Source Nav 5.0, but
right now, I have nowhere to post it (believe it or not, there is no DSL
or Cable available where I live, just 25 miles from Irvine, CA > :frowning:> .

-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Douthat [mailto:> ddouthat@faac.com> ]
Posted At: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 12:20 PM
Posted To: devtools
Conversation: IDE
Subject: Re: IDE



Two questions:

  1. What does it use for debugging? ddd? gdb? something of its own?
  2. Would you be willing to post/package executables?

Rennie Allen wrote:

I have built it in 6.1. It takes a long time (it took me about 8
hours
on a 333Mhz Pentium), but is relatively uneventfull. After it is
built,
there are minor irritants that are Source Nav/Xphoton interactions,
but
it is IMHO the best IDE available for RtP right now. It has a
makefile
builder, a graphical diff, a hyperlinked editor, and a built in
graphical front end for CVS. It also intergrates very well with
either
nedit or emacs (although it will work with any editor that has a
server
mode).

-----Original Message-----
From: Miguel Simon [mailto:> simon@ou.edu> ]
Posted At: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:53 PM
Posted To: devtools
Conversation: IDE
Subject: Re: IDE

Hi Rennie…

I wonder, have you built this source in rtp6.1? If so, any thing to
look for?

Bests…

Miguel.

Rennie Allen wrote:

You could try Source Navigator by Redhat, it is available at
sources.redhat.com/sourcenav. It is a maximalist IDE.

\

my opinions are mine, only mine, solely mine, and they are not related
in any possible way to the institution(s) in which I study and work.

Miguel Simon
Research Engineer
School of Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering
University of Oklahoma
http://www.amerobotics.ou.edu/
http://www.saic.com

–

My public key can be found at
http://mama.indstate.edu/users/liug/key.txt

10

LiuG wrote:

[…]
Rennie, have you found a place for your SourceNav5.0 yet? Maybe
you can put it on sourceforge. Check with Armin.

Frank,
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openqnx/ is now also your group…
So everyone who wants to upload sources incl. binaries to the
Open QNX sourceforge page can check it with you, too :wink:

Jutta

11

It is available (as a repository, not a .qpr) at
http://developers.cogentrts.com/rallen/repository, just point your
package manager there. There is one known bug with the package (the
help button won’t load the help because SN is hardcoded to look in
/usr/local/html and I - like any “well behaved” QNX packager - set up SN
to install into /opt). The helpfiles are present, and may be viewed by
pointing voyager to /opt/html/index.html.

Once again, thanks to Cogent Realtime Systems for hosting the
repository.

-----Original Message-----
From: LiuG [mailto:liug@mama.indstate.edu]
Posted At: Saturday, October 20, 2001 5:15 PM
Posted To: devtools
Conversation: IDE
Subject: Re: IDE


Lots people think Insight is the best GUI debugger (ddd is still
second to the best). I will post a port of Insight when I have
some free time.
Rennie, have you found a place for your SourceNav5.0 yet? Maybe
you can put it on sourceforge. Check with Armin.
Frank

Rennie Allen <RAllen@csical.com> wrote:

SN can use a variety of debuggers, however it is designed to use the
insight graphical front end (also from Redhat) which is a very nice
(much nicer than ddd IMO) graphical front end for gdb. However, I
haven’t ported insight yet (I’m still a command line guy when it comes
to debuggers).

I would be more than willing to post a .qpr for Source Nav 5.0, but
right now, I have nowhere to post it (believe it or not, there is no
DSL
or Cable available where I live, just 25 miles from Irvine, CA > :frowning:> .

-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Douthat [mailto:> ddouthat@faac.com> ]
Posted At: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 12:20 PM
Posted To: devtools
Conversation: IDE
Subject: Re: IDE



Two questions:

  1. What does it use for debugging? ddd? gdb? something of its own?
  2. Would you be willing to post/package executables?

Rennie Allen wrote:

I have built it in 6.1. It takes a long time (it took me about 8
hours
on a 333Mhz Pentium), but is relatively uneventfull. After it is
built,
there are minor irritants that are Source Nav/Xphoton interactions,
but
it is IMHO the best IDE available for RtP right now. It has a
makefile
builder, a graphical diff, a hyperlinked editor, and a built in
graphical front end for CVS. It also intergrates very well with
either
nedit or emacs (although it will work with any editor that has a
server
mode).

-----Original Message-----
From: Miguel Simon [mailto:> simon@ou.edu> ]
Posted At: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:53 PM
Posted To: devtools
Conversation: IDE
Subject: Re: IDE

Hi Rennie…

I wonder, have you built this source in rtp6.1? If so, any thing to
look for?

Bests…

Miguel.

Rennie Allen wrote:

You could try Source Navigator by Redhat, it is available at
sources.redhat.com/sourcenav. It is a maximalist IDE.

\

my opinions are mine, only mine, solely mine, and they are not
related
in any possible way to the institution(s) in which I study and work.

Miguel Simon
Research Engineer
School of Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering
University of Oklahoma
http://www.amerobotics.ou.edu/
http://www.saic.com

–

My public key can be found at
http://mama.indstate.edu/users/liug/key.txt

12

Rennie Allen wrote:

It is available (as a repository, not a .qpr) at
http://developers.cogentrts.com/rallen/repository> , just point your
package manager there.

Is there a possibility to recover from a broken download ??

Armin