I was wondering if anyone has experience with using some kind of distributed
make under QNX?
What I would like to do - is to utilize several QNX and possible Win32
machines connected through a LAN to build/compile large projects, and I was
wondering if anyone has tried to do something like that.
Thanks in advance,
Jens
“Jens H Jorgensen” <jhj@remove-nospam-videk.com> wrote in message
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I was wondering if anyone has experience with using some kind of
distributed
make under QNX?What I would like to do - is to utilize several QNX and possible Win32
machines connected through a LAN to build/compile large projects, and I
was
wondering if anyone has tried to do something like that.
I played with that option under QNX4 quite extensively on 100Mbits network
(maybe 1Gig would change something) but I was never able to get it to
compile any faster then on a single machine.
If you run QNX6 my guess is get an SMP machine.
Thanks in advance,
Jens
Mario Charest postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote:
“Jens H Jorgensen” <> jhj@remove-nospam-videk.com> > wrote in message
news:b33eoc$7bl$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
I was wondering if anyone has experience with using some kind of
distributed
make under QNX?What I would like to do - is to utilize several QNX and possible Win32
machines connected through a LAN to build/compile large projects, and I
was
wondering if anyone has tried to do something like that.
I played with that option under QNX4 quite extensively on 100Mbits network
(maybe 1Gig would change something) but I was never able to get it to
compile any faster then on a single machine.
Agreed. You can try to convince the makes that the header files are
always on the local filesystem. That will help.
The only time I saw real bebefit was when you haev heavily nested C++
inlineing going on. The compiler would spin for quite a while without
attempting to do any IO. Then multiple CPUs were a benefit.
Otherwise, the slowness of the network just destroys any benefit
otherwise gained.
If you run QNX6 my guess is get an SMP machine.
Agreed again.
–
Bill Caroselli – Q-TPS Consulting
1-(626) 824-7983
qtps@earthlink.net
Thanks guys for your input.
–
Jens
“Bill Caroselli” <qtps@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Mario Charest postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote:
“Jens H Jorgensen” <> jhj@remove-nospam-videk.com> > wrote in message
news:b33eoc$7bl$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
I was wondering if anyone has experience with using some kind of
distributed
make under QNX?What I would like to do - is to utilize several QNX and possible Win32
machines connected through a LAN to build/compile large projects, and I
was
wondering if anyone has tried to do something like that.
I played with that option under QNX4 quite extensively on 100Mbits
network
(maybe 1Gig would change something) but I was never able to get it to
compile any faster then on a single machine.Agreed. You can try to convince the makes that the header files are
always on the local filesystem. That will help.The only time I saw real bebefit was when you haev heavily nested C++
inlineing going on. The compiler would spin for quite a while without
attempting to do any IO. Then multiple CPUs were a benefit.Otherwise, the slowness of the network just destroys any benefit
otherwise gained.
If you run QNX6 my guess is get an SMP machine.Agreed again.
–
Bill Caroselli – Q-TPS Consulting
1-(626) 824-7983
qtps@earthlink.net
“Bill Caroselli” <qtps@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Mario Charest postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote:
“Jens H Jorgensen” <> jhj@remove-nospam-videk.com> > wrote in message
news:b33eoc$7bl$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
I was wondering if anyone has experience with using some kind of
distributed
make under QNX?What I would like to do - is to utilize several QNX and possible Win32
machines connected through a LAN to build/compile large projects, and I
was
wondering if anyone has tried to do something like that.
I played with that option under QNX4 quite extensively on 100Mbits
network
(maybe 1Gig would change something) but I was never able to get it to
compile any faster then on a single machine.Agreed. You can try to convince the makes that the header files are
always on the local filesystem. That will help.
Note that this was with rather slow machine compare to todays standard so I
would guess the network would become even worst of a bottleneck.
The only time I saw real bebefit was when you haev heavily nested C++
inlineing going on. The compiler would spin for quite a while without
attempting to do any IO. Then multiple CPUs were a benefit.Otherwise, the slowness of the network just destroys any benefit
otherwise gained.
If you run QNX6 my guess is get an SMP machine.Agreed again.
–
Bill Caroselli – Q-TPS Consulting
1-(626) 824-7983
qtps@earthlink.net
Jens H Jorgensen wrote:
I was wondering if anyone has experience with using some kind of distributed
make under QNX?
Yes … install PVM and PVM GMAKE
Available at: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pvmgmake
and
http://www.sf.net/projects/openqnx
What I would like to do - is to utilize several QNX and possible Win32
… and it works also with Win32 
Armin
machines connected through a LAN to build/compile large projects, and I was
wondering if anyone has tried to do something like that.Thanks in advance,
Jens
Mario Charest postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote:
“Bill Caroselli” <> qtps@earthlink.net> > wrote in message
Agreed. You can try to convince the makes that the header files are
always on the local filesystem. That will help.Note that this was with rather slow machine compare to todays standard so I
would guess the network would become even worst of a bottleneck.
Agreed. But it was also with 10-Base-T.
Hi Armin
Did you try it out - if so what is your experience with it?
Thanks
Jens
“Armin Steinhoff” <a-steinhoff@web.de> wrote in message
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Jens H Jorgensen wrote:
I was wondering if anyone has experience with using some kind of
distributed
make under QNX?Yes … install PVM and PVM GMAKE
Available at: > http://sourceforge.net/projects/pvmgmake
and
http://www.sf.net/projects/openqnx
What I would like to do - is to utilize several QNX and possible Win32… and it works also with Win32 >
Armin
machines connected through a LAN to build/compile large projects, and I
was
wondering if anyone has tried to do something like that.Thanks in advance,
Jens
“Bill Caroselli” <qtps@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Mario Charest postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote:
“Bill Caroselli” <> qtps@earthlink.net> > wrote in message
Agreed. You can try to convince the makes that the header files are
always on the local filesystem. That will help.Note that this was with rather slow machine compare to todays standard
so I
would guess the network would become even worst of a bottleneck.Agreed. But it was also with 10-Base-T.
No 100Mbits, that was when 100T would cost a fortune.
Mario Charest wrote:
“Bill Caroselli” <> qtps@earthlink.net> > wrote in message
news:b35otg$pe6$> 3@inn.qnx.com> …Mario Charest postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote:
“Bill Caroselli” <> qtps@earthlink.net> > wrote in messageAgreed. You can try to convince the makes that the header files are
always on the local filesystem. That will help.Note that this was with rather slow machine compare to todays standard
so I
would guess the network would become even worst of a bottleneck.
Agreed. But it was also with 10-Base-T.
No 100Mbits, that was when 100T would cost a fortune.
The latest standard is 10GBit ethernet; although the fastest
driver for QNX6 is 1GBit. Don’t think the data throughput is really
a big issue. I suspect that since most source file are small (in
real projects) it is the aggregate latency of the open/close
transactions that really makes distributed makes useless.
Rennie
“Rennie Allen” <rallen@csical.com> wrote in message
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Mario Charest wrote:
“Bill Caroselli” <> qtps@earthlink.net> > wrote in message
news:b35otg$pe6$> 3@inn.qnx.com> …Mario Charest postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote:
“Bill Caroselli” <> qtps@earthlink.net> > wrote in messageAgreed. You can try to convince the makes that the header files are
always on the local filesystem. That will help.Note that this was with rather slow machine compare to todays standard
so I
would guess the network would become even worst of a bottleneck.
Agreed. But it was also with 10-Base-T.
No 100Mbits, that was when 100T would cost a fortune.The latest standard is 10GBit ethernet; although the fastest
driver for QNX6 is 1GBit. Don’t think the data throughput is really
a big issue. I suspect that since most source file are small (in
real projects) it is the aggregate latency of the open/close
transactions that really makes distributed makes useless.
That would get worst with QNX6 since open operation are much slower then for
QNX4. I just checked and could find how to use distributed make with gmake.
Since gmake as not concept of qnet it can’t use it.
Rennie
Jens H Jorgensen wrote:
Hi Armin
Did you try it out - if so what is your experience with it?
PVM works very stable (e.g. for an platform independent CAN API) … but
I don’t have experiences with distributed make. IMHO … PVMMAKE looks
realy professional …
Armin
Thanks
Jens
“Armin Steinhoff” <> a-steinhoff@web.de> > wrote in message
news:b34vpv$aa$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …Jens H Jorgensen wrote:
I was wondering if anyone has experience with using some kind of
distributed
make under QNX?
Yes … install PVM and PVM GMAKE
Available at: > http://sourceforge.net/projects/pvmgmake
and
http://www.sf.net/projects/openqnx
What I would like to do - is to utilize several QNX and possible Win32… and it works also with Win32 >
Armin
machines connected through a LAN to build/compile large projects, and Iwas
wondering if anyone has tried to do something like that.
Thanks in advance,
Jens
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