StarOffice 5.2 under RTP ?

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In article <3A7855F3.C9C8B375@web_.de>,
Armin Steinhoff <A-Steinhoff@web_.de> wrote:

Steve Furr wrote:

In article <3A77D864.F7F8758A@web_.de>,
Armin Steinhoff <A-Steinhoff@web_.de> wrote:


Igor Kovalenko wrote:

There is Java version, but originally it is in C++.
And btw Java for RTP is available from IBM, although it does not claim
to be fully Sun compliant.

… and it is complete useless because it doesn’t have the AWT!


Excuse, me, Armin. On what basis do you conclude that it has no AWT?

In the download section of the OTI home page are only offered IDEs
for LINUX or Windows and runtime platforms for e.g. different
Neutrino targets.
(> http://www.embedded.oti.com/download/platform.html > )

You’re making the assumption that the IDE isn’t included because it
is dependent on AWT. In fact, the IDE uses a toolkit that exposes most
of the underlying window system capability (i.e. more widgets are
available). The AWT implementation is based on the same toolkit.

The IDE isn’t currently available because there isn’t sufficient
functionality available within port of the underlying toolkit to
support the IDE. There is enough functionality available to support
AWT, however.

In my understanding is that a ‘runtime platform’ is just the
‘virtual JAVA machine’.

And runtime libraries.

Would be nice to be completely wrong here > :slight_smile: > … is the AWT
included in the ‘runtime platform’ ???

Yes.

Armin

–

Steve Furr email: furr@qnx.com
QNX Software Systems, Ltd.

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Igor Kovalenko wrote:

Armin Steinhoff wrote:

Steve Furr wrote:

In article <3A77D864.F7F8758A@web_.de>,
Armin Steinhoff <A-Steinhoff@web_.de> wrote:


Igor Kovalenko wrote:

There is Java version, but originally it is in C++.
And btw Java for RTP is available from IBM, although it does not claim
to be fully Sun compliant.

… and it is complete useless because it doesn’t have the AWT!


Excuse, me, Armin. On what basis do you conclude that it has no AWT?

In the download section of the OTI home page are only offered IDEs
for LINUX or Windows and runtime platforms for e.g. different
Neutrino targets.
(> http://www.embedded.oti.com/download/platform.html > )

In my understanding is that a ‘runtime platform’ is just the
‘virtual JAVA machine’.

Would be nice to be completely wrong here > :slight_smile: > … is the AWT
included in the ‘runtime platform’ ???


ATW is an inherent part of Java runtime environment. It has nothing to
do with IDEs.

OK, works the AWT on top of Photon? Or does it replace Photon =:-/ ?

However … there are lots of interesting Java applications which
could be used for QNX RTP.

Armin

23

Armin Steinhoff wrote:

OK, works the AWT on top of Photon? Or does it replace Photon =:-/ ?

It depends on what you mean by ‘Photon’. It use Photon server and low
level libraries. Java apps will work within Photon environment.

  • igor
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On Wed, 31 Jan 2001 13:38:05 -0600, Igor Kovalenko
<Igor.Kovalenko@motorola.com> wrote:

Armin Steinhoff wrote:

Steve Furr wrote:

In article <3A77D864.F7F8758A@web_.de>,
Armin Steinhoff <A-Steinhoff@web_.de> wrote:


Igor Kovalenko wrote:

There is Java version, but originally it is in C++.
And btw Java for RTP is available from IBM, although it does not claim
to be fully Sun compliant.

… and it is complete useless because it doesn’t have the AWT!


Excuse, me, Armin. On what basis do you conclude that it has no AWT?

In the download section of the OTI home page are only offered IDEs
for LINUX or Windows and runtime platforms for e.g. different
Neutrino targets.
(> http://www.embedded.oti.com/download/platform.html > )

There is an AWT available for QNX RTP. It does not come with the base
IDE, runtimes, or libraries, however, You need to look for the
download called “Personal Configuration” on www.embedded.oti.com.
This download has AWT, beans and RMI. There is also a plugin for
Voyager that allows you to run applets in Voyager.

The Personal Configuration download for QNX RTP includes the VM and
class libraries you need to run AWT apps.

The current version runs on Photon (technically, Photon 1.14 using a
backward compatibility library, but a Photon 2.0 version is coming
real soon). and uses Photon widgets.

In my understanding is that a ‘runtime platform’ is just the
‘virtual JAVA machine’.

Typically runtimes from the OTI web site only include the VM.
VisualAge Micro Edition is a cross development environment. The
assumption is that you would use the class libraries from within the
IDE on Win or Linux to create the application that would run on the
target. You would deploy either jar files or you can make a “Java
Executable” (.jxe) file that contains all the classes.

Would be nice to be completely wrong here > :slight_smile: > … is the AWT
included in the ‘runtime platform’ ???

Not the base Neutrino or QNX RTP “runtime”. (where “runtime” is
defined by what you download from www.embedded.oti.com). You need to
download Personal Configuration.

ATW is an inherent part of Java runtime environment. It has nothing to
do with IDEs.

  • igor

One more note - the current downloads are in a bit of a fux.
VisualAge Micro Edition 1.3 just became available today. However, the
1.3 Personal Configuration will not be available for a couple of days.
If you download now you’ll get the 1.2 version.

Note that 1.2/1.3 do not correspond to JDK releases.

-Andrew

25

How would you qualify level of compatibility? Do you think it could run
Java version of StarOffice or it is not complete enough?

  • igor

Andrew Sandstrom wrote:

There is an AWT available for QNX RTP. It does not come with the base
IDE, runtimes, or libraries, however, You need to look for the
download called “Personal Configuration” on > www.embedded.oti.com> .
This download has AWT, beans and RMI. There is also a plugin for
Voyager that allows you to run applets in Voyager.

The Personal Configuration download for QNX RTP includes the VM and
class libraries you need to run AWT apps.

The current version runs on Photon (technically, Photon 1.14 using a
backward compatibility library, but a Photon 2.0 version is coming
real soon). and uses Photon widgets.


In my understanding is that a ‘runtime platform’ is just the
‘virtual JAVA machine’.

Typically runtimes from the OTI web site only include the VM.
VisualAge Micro Edition is a cross development environment. The
assumption is that you would use the class libraries from within the
IDE on Win or Linux to create the application that would run on the
target. You would deploy either jar files or you can make a “Java
Executable” (.jxe) file that contains all the classes.


Would be nice to be completely wrong here > :slight_smile: > … is the AWT
included in the ‘runtime platform’ ???


Not the base Neutrino or QNX RTP “runtime”. (where “runtime” is
defined by what you download from > www.embedded.oti.com> ). You need to
download Personal Configuration.


ATW is an inherent part of Java runtime environment. It has nothing to
do with IDEs.

  • igor

One more note - the current downloads are in a bit of a fux.
VisualAge Micro Edition 1.3 just became available today. However, the
1.3 Personal Configuration will not be available for a couple of days.
If you download now you’ll get the 1.2 version.

Note that 1.2/1.3 do not correspond to JDK releases.

-Andrew

26

Andrew,

thanks for your clear response.

Andrew Sandstrom wrote:

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There is an AWT available for QNX RTP. It does not come with the base
IDE, runtimes, or libraries, however, You need to look for the
download called “Personal Configuration” on > www.embedded.oti.com> .
This download has AWT, beans and RMI. There is also a plugin for
Voyager that allows you to run applets in Voyager.

The Personal Configuration download for QNX RTP includes the VM and
class libraries you need to run AWT apps.

The current version runs on Photon (technically, Photon 1.14 using a
backward compatibility library, but a Photon 2.0 version is coming
real soon). and uses Photon widgets.

Yet an other ‘platform independent’ OO wrapper for the Photon
library :slight_smile: … great!

In my understanding is that a ‘runtime platform’ is just the
‘virtual JAVA machine’.

Typically runtimes from the OTI web site only include the VM.
VisualAge Micro Edition is a cross development environment. The
assumption is that you would use the class libraries from within the
IDE on Win or Linux to create the application that would run on the
target. You would deploy either jar files or you can make a “Java
Executable” (.jxe) file that contains all the classes.


Would be nice to be completely wrong here > :slight_smile: > … is the AWT
included in the ‘runtime platform’ ???


Not the base Neutrino or QNX RTP “runtime”. (where “runtime” is
defined by what you download from > www.embedded.oti.com> ). You need to
download Personal Configuration.


ATW is an inherent part of Java runtime environment. It has nothing to
do with IDEs.

  • igor

One more note - the current downloads are in a bit of a fux.
VisualAge Micro Edition 1.3 just became available today. However, the
1.3 Personal Configuration will not be available for a couple of days.
If you download now you’ll get the 1.2 version.

Many thanks for your response … please let us know if there are
new releases available.

Regards

Armin

27

I don’t know anything about StarOffice so I couldn’t say. The
VisualAge Micro Edition AWT implemenation is intended to be complete
enough to run PersonalJava level of applications (i.e. not full AWT,
no Swing).

-Andrew


On Thu, 01 Feb 2001 17:10:33 -0600, Igor Kovalenko
<Igor.Kovalenko@motorola.com> wrote:

How would you qualify level of compatibility? Do you think it could run
Java version of StarOffice or it is not complete enough?

  • igor

Andrew Sandstrom wrote:

There is an AWT available for QNX RTP. It does not come with the base
IDE, runtimes, or libraries, however, You need to look for the
download called “Personal Configuration” on > www.embedded.oti.com> .
This download has AWT, beans and RMI. There is also a plugin for
Voyager that allows you to run applets in Voyager.

The Personal Configuration download for QNX RTP includes the VM and
class libraries you need to run AWT apps.

The current version runs on Photon (technically, Photon 1.14 using a
backward compatibility library, but a Photon 2.0 version is coming
real soon). and uses Photon widgets.


In my understanding is that a ‘runtime platform’ is just the
‘virtual JAVA machine’.

Typically runtimes from the OTI web site only include the VM.
VisualAge Micro Edition is a cross development environment. The
assumption is that you would use the class libraries from within the
IDE on Win or Linux to create the application that would run on the
target. You would deploy either jar files or you can make a “Java
Executable” (.jxe) file that contains all the classes.


Would be nice to be completely wrong here > :slight_smile: > … is the AWT
included in the ‘runtime platform’ ???


Not the base Neutrino or QNX RTP “runtime”. (where “runtime” is
defined by what you download from > www.embedded.oti.com> ). You need to
download Personal Configuration.


ATW is an inherent part of Java runtime environment. It has nothing to
do with IDEs.

  • igor

One more note - the current downloads are in a bit of a fux.
VisualAge Micro Edition 1.3 just became available today. However, the
1.3 Personal Configuration will not be available for a couple of days.
If you download now you’ll get the 1.2 version.

Note that 1.2/1.3 do not correspond to JDK releases.

-Andrew

28

Steve Furr schrieb:

The IDE isn’t currently available because there isn’t sufficient
functionality available within port of the underlying toolkit to
support the IDE. There is enough functionality available to support
AWT, however.

In my understanding is that a ‘runtime platform’ is just the
‘virtual JAVA machine’.

And runtime libraries.

Excuse me,
Does this mean no native command line java compiler “javac”?
Thanks!

29

Note there is a ng for the IBM J9 Java stuff at: news.software.ibm.com,
group ibm.software.vame

There is no command-line compiler. The compiler is shipped with the IDE.
The J9 VM runs .class files produced from any valid java compiler though.
If you don’t want to or can’t use our IDE, use the Sun or IBM JDK compilers,
jikes, etc. etc.

Another note, which I don’t think I saw mentioned. Our Personal
Configuration also ships with plugin support for the Voyager browser to
allow you to run applets within Voyager …

–

Patrick_Mueller@oti.com



Tobias Weihmann <weihmann@informatik.uni-bremen.de> wrote in message
news:3A7D7955.CF077EB6@informatik.uni-bremen.de…

Steve Furr schrieb:
The IDE isn’t currently available because there isn’t sufficient
functionality available within port of the underlying toolkit to
support the IDE. There is enough functionality available to support
AWT, however.

In my understanding is that a ‘runtime platform’ is just the
‘virtual JAVA machine’.

And runtime libraries.

Excuse me,
Does this mean no native command line java compiler “javac”?
Thanks!