Well, we now have another cross IDE for QNX, which is probably good
thing.
Just cusrious, what happened to Metrowerks IDE? Have you guys silently
ditched 'em? 
- Igor
Previously, Igor Kovalenko wrote in qdn.public.qnxrtp.advocacy:
Well, we now have another cross IDE for QNX, which is probably good
thing.
Just cusrious, what happened to Metrowerks IDE? Have you guys silently
ditched 'em? >
Metrowerks was bought by Motorola, as you know. The latest Metrowerks
advertising does not mention support for any chip that is not made by
Motorola, nor any operating system that does not run exclusively on
Motorola. My guess: Metrowerks ditched QNX due to Motorola’s
corporate policy.
Cheers,
Andrew
Andrew Thomas wrote:
Previously, Igor Kovalenko wrote in qdn.public.qnxrtp.advocacy:
Well, we now have another cross IDE for QNX, which is probably good
thing.
Just cusrious, what happened to Metrowerks IDE? Have you guys silently
ditched 'em? >Metrowerks was bought by Motorola, as you know. The latest Metrowerks
advertising does not mention support for any chip that is not made by
Motorola, nor any operating system that does not run exclusively on
Motorola.
I don’t think that Windows, Solaris, Java and Linux run exclusively on
Motorola (they are all supported standard platforms aside from Mac and
Palm which do indeed run exclusively on M68K/PowerPC). And it well might
be that advertising was biased toward Motorola, not surprising since for
a Motorola company.
However, they still advertise QNX support on their web site:
http://www.metrowerks.com/embedded/qnx
Note that Watcom never ever had anything related to QNX on their web
site, even before they ditched it.
My guess: Metrowerks ditched QNX due to Motorola’s
corporate policy.
There’s no policy like one you’re implying. Several sectors in Motorola
are still engaged in active development using QNX. Besides, every
Motorola’s sector has its own business and financial management and free
to make their own decisions as long as they show profit. Metrowerks is
not even a sector, it is wholly owned subsidiary and I suppose it is
even more autonomous.
- igor
What a dumb corporate policy (if true). Who does Motorola think they
are; Intel ? Motorola can only gain from ease of targetting multiple
processors, since they make some really nice processors, and customers
are highly likely to choose their processor on it’s merits (making it
easy to compare by easily switching back and forth only favors the
vendor with the better product). Only those with second rate products
would benefit from employing “lock-in” policies. Geez, if their
earnings aren’t any good tonight, I’m selling my stock, if this is an
example of their management “smarts”.
Rennie “I want my SMP G4 workstation running QNX” Allen
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Thomas [mailto:Andrew@cogent.ca]
Posted At: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 4:54 AM
Posted To: advocacy
Conversation: MetaWare announcement
Subject: Re: MetaWare announcement
Previously, Igor Kovalenko wrote in qdn.public.qnxrtp.advocacy:
Well, we now have another cross IDE for QNX, which is probably good
thing.
Just cusrious, what happened to Metrowerks IDE? Have you guys silently
ditched 'em? >
Metrowerks was bought by Motorola, as you know. The latest Metrowerks
advertising does not mention support for any chip that is not made by
Motorola, nor any operating system that does not run exclusively on
Motorola. My guess: Metrowerks ditched QNX due to Motorola’s
corporate policy.
Cheers,
Andrew
Previously, Igor Kovalenko wrote in qdn.public.qnxrtp.advocacy:
Andrew Thomas wrote:
[…]
Metrowerks was bought by Motorola, as you know. The latest Metrowerks
advertising does not mention support for any chip that is not made by
Motorola, nor any operating system that does not run exclusively on
Motorola.I don’t think that Windows, Solaris, Java and Linux run exclusively on
Motorola (they are all supported standard platforms aside from Mac and
Palm which do indeed run exclusively on M68K/PowerPC). And it well might
be that advertising was biased toward Motorola, not surprising since for
a Motorola company.
Well, it was speculation after all.
However, they still advertise QNX support on their web site:
http://www.metrowerks.com/embedded/qnx
Yes, so I called Metrowerks and asked them. They told me that the
tool suite was hosted in Neutrino, but used the GCC compiler, and for
detailed information I should talk to QNX. I asked who was doing the
development, and they said that is was a joint effort between QNX and
Metrowerks. The salesman did not seem to know much about the product,
and stressed that I should be dealing with QNX.
So I called QNX. They said that the Metrowerks IDE and debugger would
be hosted in Windows, and was not going to be ported to run natively
in Neutrino. They only support GCC. Further, the current product
(advertised by Metrowerks as available now) only targets Neutrino 2.0,
and only for x86 and PPC. QNX is actively upgrading this tool chain
to target Neutrino 2.1x, but it is not there yet, and our QNX rep
didn’t speculate on a release date. He seemed much more enthusiastic
about the MetaWare toolset.
Note that Watcom never ever had anything related to QNX on their web
site, even before they ditched it.
But they did have a compiler that kept abreast of the operating
system. That’s not happening with Metrowerks. Metrowerks is a) not
supporting the OS natively, b) not keeping up with the operating
system versions, and c) not doing their own development and support
for Neutrino. That sounds like inattention to me.
My guess: Metrowerks ditched QNX due to Motorola’s
corporate policy.There’s no policy like one you’re implying. Several sectors in Motorola
are still engaged in active development using QNX. Besides, every
Glad to hear it.
Motorola’s sector has its own business and financial management and free
to make their own decisions as long as they show profit. Metrowerks is
not even a sector, it is wholly owned subsidiary and I suppose it is
even more autonomous.
Maybe so, but you feed your family first. Metrowerks did lower its
profile in QNX after being bought by Motorola. Its focus changed to
be more in line with the rest of Motorola’s goals. We went from the
heady “native IDE with Metrowerks compiler” hopes to the much less
appealing cross-development with GCC reality.
Cheers,
Andrew