Hi all,
I’ve played with RTP for a few month now, and yes, i find it really
cool. I’m in computers for more than 15 years now, working with
different flavors of Machines/OS like Solaris, AIX, FreeBSD, Linux,
AmigaDOS, CPM86, Windows and Win2K and few experience with real time
systems.
I wonder what kind of “real world” application QNX is mean to. What do
you use it for ?
I don’t want to start a “this OS is better than that on” or a “this OS
is crap” thread, i just ask myself about what QNX mean RTP for and how
you use it…
If someone wants to share his experience, please tell me.
Regards from Paris,
CL
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Perhaps not exactly what you asked for, but check out the
Real World Stories on www.qnx.com with a large number
of success stories. Although most or all examples used QNX4,
i guess the QNX RTP targets the same markets, perhaps with an
strenghtened branch of multimedia.
You can use it for mission critical (including high availability) and/or
time critical systems.
We use it in our unmanned vehicle control systems which are both.
/ Tom
Christophe Lauer wrote:
Hi all,
I’ve played with RTP for a few month now, and yes, i find it really
cool. I’m in computers for more than 15 years now, working with
different flavors of Machines/OS like Solaris, AIX, FreeBSD, Linux,
AmigaDOS, CPM86, Windows and Win2K and few experience with real time
systems.
I wonder what kind of “real world” application QNX is mean to. What do
you use it for ?
I don’t want to start a “this OS is better than that on” or a “this OS
is crap” thread, i just ask myself about what QNX mean RTP for and how
you use it…
If someone wants to share his experience, please tell me.
Regards from Paris,
CL
–
Christophe Lauer : > http://clauer.free.fr > - mailto:> clauer@free.fr
Tutoriel PHP : > http://www.linux-france.org/article/devl/php3/tut/
Tout sur Microsoft .NET en Français : > http://www.dotnet-fr.org/
We use QNX as a controller in our DCS product. One of these controllers may
be responsible for thousands of I/O, and up to 32 of them can be linked into
a single control system. One of our largest projects (in terms of I/O
count) is the Hong Kong International Airport where we handle the fuel
delivery system for the aircraft, and a bunch of facility stuff ( > 30,000
I/O).
I have also worked for companies that used QNX in surgical robotics,
industrial robotics, paper hole detectors, and as a SCADA system in
wastewater treatment.
From my experience I have used QNX on medical patient monitoring equipment,
air traffic control systems and automation systems for moving scenery in the
entertainment business.
Jim Douglas
“Christophe Lauer” <clauer@free.fr> wrote in message
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Hi all,
I’ve played with RTP for a few month now, and yes, i find it really
cool. I’m in computers for more than 15 years now, working with
different flavors of Machines/OS like Solaris, AIX, FreeBSD, Linux,
AmigaDOS, CPM86, Windows and Win2K and few experience with real time
systems.
I wonder what kind of “real world” application QNX is mean to. What do
you use it for ?
I don’t want to start a “this OS is better than that on” or a “this OS
is crap” thread, i just ask myself about what QNX mean RTP for and how
you use it…
If someone wants to share his experience, please tell me.
Regards from Paris,
CL
–
Christophe Lauer : > http://clauer.free.fr > - mailto:> clauer@free.fr
Tutoriel PHP : > http://www.linux-france.org/article/devl/php3/tut/
Tout sur Microsoft .NET en Français : > http://www.dotnet-fr.org/
We are using it to control an RF phase shift/attenuator network of
potentially hundreds of elements to simulate nulling characteristics of
antenna elements mounted on a moving (and rotating) platform at a 1 Khz
(for all elements) update rate.
Christophe Lauer wrote:
Hi all,
I’ve played with RTP for a few month now, and yes, i find it really
cool. I’m in computers for more than 15 years now, working with
different flavors of Machines/OS like Solaris, AIX, FreeBSD, Linux,
AmigaDOS, CPM86, Windows and Win2K and few experience with real time
systems.
I wonder what kind of “real world” application QNX is mean to. What do
you use it for ?
I don’t want to start a “this OS is better than that on” or a “this OS
is crap” thread, i just ask myself about what QNX mean RTP for and how
you use it…
If someone wants to share his experience, please tell me.
Regards from Paris,
CL
–
Christophe Lauer : > http://clauer.free.fr > - mailto:> clauer@free.fr
Tutoriel PHP : > http://www.linux-france.org/article/devl/php3/tut/
Tout sur Microsoft .NET en Français : > http://www.dotnet-fr.org/
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John H. Zouck
The Johns Hopkins University
Applied Physics Laboratory
Hi Christophe:
We make things go autonomous with QNX as their OS. Things like
helicopters, airplanes, land robots, spacecraft, land mines, more
robots, washing machines, etc. 
Bests…
–
Miguel Simon
Research Engineer
School of Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering
University of Oklahoma
http://www.amerobotics.ou.edu/
Hi Miguel,
you realy build land mines?
I thought people got rid of them.
If you need some: there are millions of them arround the world, banging
people and kids every day.
Friedhelm Schuetz
(thats my private opinion)
Miguel Simon wrote:
Hi Christophe:
We make things go autonomous with QNX as their OS. Things like
helicopters, airplanes, land robots, spacecraft, land mines, more
robots, washing machines, etc. >
Bests…
–
Miguel Simon
Research Engineer
School of Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering
University of Oklahoma
http://www.amerobotics.ou.edu/
Hi Miguel,
I thought people got rid of them.
Have you been living in a cave ?
If you need some: there are millions of them arround the world,
banging
people and kids every day.
I think that what Miguel worked on is an autonomous helicopter designed
to do mine removal (but I’m not sure).
Rennie
Miguel Simon wrote:
Friedhelm…
Rennie Allen wrote:
Hi Miguel,
I thought people got rid of them.
Have you been living in a cave ?
If you need some: there are millions of them arround the world,
banging
people and kids every day.
Technology does not kill, but disgracefully its misuse does. In a way I
am helping to get rid of future use of antipersonnel mines the like of
which kids in south-east asia play with. Take a look at
http://www.darpa.mil/ato/programs/APLA/programinfo.html> . Sorry, no more
comments on the subject from my part.
I think that what Miguel worked on is an autonomous helicopter designed
to do mine removal (but I’m not sure).
You are right. This is one application of our autonomous fleet of
helicopters.
That sure makes warfare sound like fun. I almost can see those MTV
generation boyz sitting in comfortable air-conditioned bunkers with
joysticks while autonomous choppers fight autonomous landmines, LOL.
Apparently US already won one remote-control-war, in Kosovo.
Hight-tech-warriors then came in safely and dug themselves into local
bunkers. But guess what, those less-high-tech sides simply turned the
table in their old fashioned bloody game.
I think eventually this would inevitably lead to autonomous smart
weapons fighting people who don’t have autonomous smart weapons to hide
behind. That of course will be so much more humane than old land mines.
Sure it is much nicer to have yourself blown apart by an autonomous
smart bomb than by a stupid land mine…
Friedhelm…
Rennie Allen wrote:
Hi Miguel,
I thought people got rid of them.
Have you been living in a cave ?
If you need some: there are millions of them arround the world,
banging
people and kids every day.
Technology does not kill, but disgracefully its misuse does. In a way I
am helping to get rid of future use of antipersonnel mines the like of
which kids in south-east asia play with. Take a look at
http://www.darpa.mil/ato/programs/APLA/programinfo.html. Sorry, no more
comments on the subject from my part.
I think that what Miguel worked on is an autonomous helicopter designed
to do mine removal (but I’m not sure).
You are right. This is one application of our autonomous fleet of
helicopters.
Rennie
–
Miguel Simon
Research Engineer
School of Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering
University of Oklahoma
http://www.amerobotics.ou.edu/
I think eventually this would inevitably lead to autonomous smart
weapons fighting people who don’t have autonomous smart weapons to hide
behind. That of course will be so much more humane than old land mines.
Sure it is much nicer to have yourself blown apart by an autonomous
smart bomb than by a stupid land mine…
Igor, I understand where your coming from and I agree completely;
however, I also feel that if mines have to exist (and there isn’t much
you or I have to say about whether they do or don’t) then big expensive
mines that are easy to retrieve (mines with on board navigation systems,
some form of mobility, and powerful computers should fit into this
category) once hostilities cease, are vastly superior to cheap plastic
mines which are a nightmare to locate and remove. Of course, having all
nations sign on to the land mine abolition treaty would be the
preferable scenario (it is probably because of the tactical potential of
systems like ther one described that creates the reluctance for the U.S.
to sign on 
.
Rennie
Rennie Allen wrote:
I think eventually this would inevitably lead to autonomous smart
weapons fighting people who don’t have autonomous smart weapons to hide
behind. That of course will be so much more humane than old land mines.
Sure it is much nicer to have yourself blown apart by an autonomous
smart bomb than by a stupid land mine…
Igor, I understand where your coming from and I agree completely;
however, I also feel that if mines have to exist (and there isn’t much
you or I have to say about whether they do or don’t) then big expensive
mines that are easy to retrieve (mines with on board navigation systems,
some form of mobility, and powerful computers should fit into this
category) once hostilities cease, are vastly superior to cheap plastic
mines which are a nightmare to locate and remove. Of course, having all
nations sign on to the land mine abolition treaty would be the
preferable scenario (it is probably because of the tactical potential of
systems like ther one described that creates the reluctance for the U.S.
to sign on > > .
Rennie
IMHO, that tactical potential is overvalued significantly. It arises out of
a now obsolete mindset which placed main emphasis on defense against
numerically superior opponents. This scenario is now very unlikely and, as
shown by recent conflicts, there are much better ways to limit opponents
mobility. As usual, the generals are still fighting the last war!
Dean Douthat wrote:
Rennie Allen wrote:
I think eventually this would inevitably lead to autonomous smart
weapons fighting people who don’t have autonomous smart weapons to hide
behind. That of course will be so much more humane than old land mines.
Sure it is much nicer to have yourself blown apart by an autonomous
smart bomb than by a stupid land mine…
Igor, I understand where your coming from and I agree completely;
however, I also feel that if mines have to exist (and there isn’t much
you or I have to say about whether they do or don’t) then big expensive
mines that are easy to retrieve (mines with on board navigation systems,
some form of mobility, and powerful computers should fit into this
category) once hostilities cease, are vastly superior to cheap plastic
mines which are a nightmare to locate and remove. Of course, having all
nations sign on to the land mine abolition treaty would be the
preferable scenario (it is probably because of the tactical potential of
systems like ther one described that creates the reluctance for the U.S.
to sign on > > .
Rennie
IMHO, that tactical potential is overvalued significantly. It arises out of
a now obsolete mindset which placed main emphasis on defense against
numerically superior opponents. This scenario is now very unlikely and, as
shown by recent conflicts, there are much better ways to limit opponents
mobility. As usual, the generals are still fighting the last war!
LOL. That is true. Besides why everyone presumes those smart-ass mines
would not ever break and go walking where they think they need to ‘heal
off’ some ‘breach’. Might well end up in some place you don’t expect
them to be especially if enemy can jam their communications.
LOL. That is true. Besides why everyone presumes those smart-ass mines
would not ever break and go walking where they think they need to 'heal
off’ some ‘breach’. Might well end up in some place you don’t expect
them to be especially if enemy can jam their communications.
I think that the issues that most people have with mines is because of
what they are, assuming that they work exactly as designed. A certain
percentage of cheap plastic mines detonate when they are being placed
(which is not what they are designed to do); however, far more damage is
done to human beings by the ones that work like they are supposed to.
Expending effort against cheap plastic mines will save more human lives
per unit effort, than venting sarcasm against autonomous mines.
Organizations such as Unicef have programs for land mine removal, and
offering them your support will actually do something to prevent deaths
(between 8,000 and 10,000 children a year are killed or injured by
discarded land mines - and that is just children, not adults).
Rennie
Rennie Allen wrote:
I think eventually this would inevitably lead to autonomous smart
weapons fighting people who don’t have autonomous smart weapons to hide
behind. That of course will be so much more humane than old land mines.
Sure it is much nicer to have yourself blown apart by an autonomous
smart bomb than by a stupid land mine…
Igor, I understand where your coming from and I agree completely;
however, I also feel that if mines have to exist
I feel what we need is piece and not land mines.
The ideas of land mines comes from a century where the enemies got
pitch and sulphur poured over their heads when they passing by …
nothing changed in thinking until now??
INHO … land mines have to be baned!
(and there isn’t much
you or I have to say about whether they do or don’t) then big expensive
mines that are easy to retrieve
Yes, as long as the supply of electrical power is working … and
what happens afterwards??
Armin