I really want QNX RtP on my iMac. I have an older one, which is great
hardware without a more-than-decent OS.
-Mac OS = archaic; no memory protection, no shell, etc.
-OS X = better, but bloated & slow (& not just on older machines)
-BeOS = doesn’t run on Apple G3/4 mobos (iMac included)
-Linux/BSD = too unpolished [but what’ll probably get installed anyways]
So, QNX would be an obvious choice. I know QNX runs on PPC, & I hear
there is an internal iMac/G4 port. I’d like to say that I
would be very happy if that was released in the same manner as the
Intel/x86 version, or even for a small fee. I’m not a programmer, but I
will gladly help with anything I could do to help!
Also, I wouldn’t mind running RtP ona handheld, e.g. the iPaq or
upcoming Sharp Zaurus (as someone mentioned in an earlier thread).
AB
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Alexander Browne | ab@apple2.com
Saint Paul, Minn., U.S.
Yup, I agree, QNX is an obvious choice. I probably wouldn’t even mind
using gcc if I could run it on a SMP G4 (at least one processor would be
free 
-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Browne [mailto:ab@apple2.com.NULL]
Posted At: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 3:33 PM
Posted To: advocacy
Conversation: QNX for Mac
Subject: QNX for Mac
I really want QNX RtP on my iMac. I have an older one, which is great
hardware without a more-than-decent OS.
-Mac OS = archaic; no memory protection, no shell, etc.
-OS X = better, but bloated & slow (& not just on older machines)
-BeOS = doesn’t run on Apple G3/4 mobos (iMac included)
-Linux/BSD = too unpolished [but what’ll probably get installed anyways]
So, QNX would be an obvious choice. I know QNX runs on PPC, & I hear
there is an internal iMac/G4 port. I’d like to say that I
would be very happy if that was released in the same manner as the
Intel/x86 version, or even for a small fee. I’m not a programmer, but I
will gladly help with anything I could do to help!
Also, I wouldn’t mind running RtP ona handheld, e.g. the iPaq or
upcoming Sharp Zaurus (as someone mentioned in an earlier thread).
AB
–
Alexander Browne | ab@apple2.com
Saint Paul, Minn., U.S.
“Alexander Browne” <ab@apple2.com.NULL> wrote in message
news:ab-6AB93E.17330514082001@inn.qnx.com…
I really want QNX RtP on my iMac. I have an older one, which is great
hardware without a more-than-decent OS.
-Mac OS = archaic; no memory protection, no shell, etc.
-OS X = better, but bloated & slow (& not just on older machines)
-BeOS = doesn’t run on Apple G3/4 mobos (iMac included)
-Linux/BSD = too unpolished [but what’ll probably get installed anyways]
So, QNX would be an obvious choice. I know QNX runs on PPC, & I hear
there is an internal iMac/G4 port. I’d like to say that I
would be very happy if that was released in the same manner as the
Intel/x86 version, or even for a small fee. I’m not a programmer, but I
will gladly help with anything I could do to help!
Out of curiousity, if you are not a programmer what is it that you would
do with QNX running on a MAC?
Also, I wouldn’t mind running RtP ona handheld, e.g. the iPaq or
upcoming Sharp Zaurus (as someone mentioned in an earlier thread).
AB
–
Alexander Browne | > ab@apple2.com
Saint Paul, Minn., U.S.
Mario Charest <mcharest@zinformatic.com> wrote:
Out of curiousity, if you are not a programmer what is it that you would
do with QNX running on a MAC?
As a desktop OS. I’ve seen QNX RtP favorably reviewed with BeOS several
times, & I’ve heard it described as the “Linux” you should install if
you want more than to be open-source-“cool”. With apps like the new
Opera port & the ability to run X apps like the GIMP, I think it
is/would be great on the desktop.
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Alexander Browne | ab@apple2.com
Saint Paul, Minn., U.S.
Alexander Browne a écrit :
Mario Charest <> mcharest@zinformatic.com> > wrote:
Out of curiousity, if you are not a programmer what is it that you would
do with QNX running on a MAC?
As a desktop OS. I’ve seen QNX RtP favorably reviewed with BeOS several
times, & I’ve heard it described as the “Linux” you should install if
you want more than to be open-source-“cool”. With apps like the new
Opera port & the ability to run X apps like the GIMP, I think it
is/would be great on the desktop.
–
Alexander Browne | > ab@apple2.com
Saint Paul, Minn., U.S.
That’s right, it’s possible but, as all ‘Unix like’ platforms, the
applications are only source code compatible. It means that you cannot install
application not yet ported to qnx, you will have to recompile these on qnx.
Sometimes it’s very easy, just type make then make install, sometimes it’s
less obvious. Some changes are quiet often necessary in makefiles and/or
source files.
Alain.
Alain Bonnefoy <alain.bonnefoy@icbt.com> wrote:
That’s right, it’s possible but, as all ‘Unix like’ platforms, the
applications are only source code compatible. It means that you cannot
install
application not yet ported to qnx, you will have to recompile these on
qnx.
Sometimes it’s very easy, just type make then make install, sometimes
it’s
less obvious. Some changes are quiet often necessary in makefiles and/or
source files.
Yes, I at least understand that. It’s much easier than porting a POSIX
app to, say, MacOS, I would think. Also, is there not ‘lxrun’ that
provides Linux binary compatibility? – a good last resort if something
won’t compile.
(I know that apps distributed as x86 binary only wouldn’t run on a Mac
port, but I know that Opera at least has LinuxPPC binaries, so if there
was QNX for Mac & we asked Opera real nice, hopefully they could compile
it.)
–
Alexander Browne | ab@apple2.com
Saint Paul, Minn., U.S.
I would like to see QNX on Mac for no other reason than having a pretty
O/S on pretty hardware. It’s the 21st century for crying out loud, one
would think we should be able to have pretty h/w and a pretty O/S in the
same place at the same time
-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Browne [mailto:ab@apple2.com.NULL]
Posted At: Friday, August 17, 2001 12:59 PM
Posted To: advocacy
Conversation: QNX for Mac
Subject: Re: QNX for Mac
Alain Bonnefoy <alain.bonnefoy@icbt.com> wrote:
That’s right, it’s possible but, as all ‘Unix like’ platforms, the
applications are only source code compatible. It means that you cannot
install
application not yet ported to qnx, you will have to recompile these on
qnx.
Sometimes it’s very easy, just type make then make install, sometimes
it’s
less obvious. Some changes are quiet often necessary in makefiles
and/or
source files.
Yes, I at least understand that. It’s much easier than porting a POSIX
app to, say, MacOS, I would think. Also, is there not ‘lxrun’ that
provides Linux binary compatibility? – a good last resort if something
won’t compile.
(I know that apps distributed as x86 binary only wouldn’t run on a Mac
port, but I know that Opera at least has LinuxPPC binaries, so if there
was QNX for Mac & we asked Opera real nice, hopefully they could compile
it.)
–
Alexander Browne | ab@apple2.com
Saint Paul, Minn., U.S.
Do you mean in 21st century there should not be a need for busineess case
for that to happen? 
“Rennie Allen” <RAllen@csical.com> wrote in message
news:64F00D816A85D51198390050046F80C99057@exchangecal.hq.csical.com…
I would like to see QNX on Mac for no other reason than having a pretty
O/S on pretty hardware. It’s the 21st century for crying out loud, one
would think we should be able to have pretty h/w and a pretty O/S in the
same place at the same time >
-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Browne [mailto:> ab@apple2.com.NULL> ]
Posted At: Friday, August 17, 2001 12:59 PM
Posted To: advocacy
Conversation: QNX for Mac
Subject: Re: QNX for Mac
Alain Bonnefoy <> alain.bonnefoy@icbt.com> > wrote:
That’s right, it’s possible but, as all ‘Unix like’ platforms, the
applications are only source code compatible. It means that you cannot
install
application not yet ported to qnx, you will have to recompile these on
qnx.
Sometimes it’s very easy, just type make then make install, sometimes
it’s
less obvious. Some changes are quiet often necessary in makefiles
and/or
source files.
Yes, I at least understand that. It’s much easier than porting a POSIX
app to, say, MacOS, I would think. Also, is there not ‘lxrun’ that
provides Linux binary compatibility? – a good last resort if something
won’t compile.
(I know that apps distributed as x86 binary only wouldn’t run on a Mac
port, but I know that Opera at least has LinuxPPC binaries, so if there
was QNX for Mac & we asked Opera real nice, hopefully they could compile
it.)
–
Alexander Browne | > ab@apple2.com
Saint Paul, Minn., U.S.
Two other problems remain, even after you find programmers who don’t need a
business case to make them write code:
- The pci Macs all use various versions and implementations of “Open
Firmware”. Versions prior to G3 Macs are so different that they are called
“Old World Macs”, vs “New World Macs” for the G3 and G4 Macs. The “Open
Firmware” standard is more honoured in the breach than the observance…to
coin a phrase.
- It was Apple Corp. that taught nVidia how to release hardware
documentation; nVidia just took it a little farther. 
Phil Olynyk
Igor Kovalenko wrote:
Do you mean in 21st century there should not be a need for busineess case
for that to happen? >
“Rennie Allen” <> RAllen@csical.com> > wrote in message
news:> 64F00D816A85D51198390050046F80C99057@exchangecal.hq.csical.com> …
I would like to see QNX on Mac for no other reason than having a pretty
O/S on pretty hardware. It’s the 21st century for crying out loud, one
would think we should be able to have pretty h/w and a pretty O/S in the
same place at the same time >
-----Original Message-----
From: Alexander Browne [mailto:> ab@apple2.com.NULL> ]
Posted At: Friday, August 17, 2001 12:59 PM
Posted To: advocacy
Conversation: QNX for Mac
Subject: Re: QNX for Mac
Alain Bonnefoy <> alain.bonnefoy@icbt.com> > wrote:
That’s right, it’s possible but, as all ‘Unix like’ platforms, the
applications are only source code compatible. It means that you cannot
install
application not yet ported to qnx, you will have to recompile these on
qnx.
Sometimes it’s very easy, just type make then make install, sometimes
it’s
less obvious. Some changes are quiet often necessary in makefiles
and/or
source files.
Yes, I at least understand that. It’s much easier than porting a POSIX
app to, say, MacOS, I would think. Also, is there not ‘lxrun’ that
provides Linux binary compatibility? – a good last resort if something
won’t compile.
(I know that apps distributed as x86 binary only wouldn’t run on a Mac
port, but I know that Opera at least has LinuxPPC binaries, so if there
was QNX for Mac & we asked Opera real nice, hopefully they could compile
it.)
–
Alexander Browne | > ab@apple2.com
Saint Paul, Minn., U.S.