Educational Use

I’m curious to know how the QRTP non-commercial license
applies to educational uses. We have been an educational
site for QNX4 for many years, so I assume QNX would want
us to continue to have access to QNX6, but I’m wondering
if they expect educational institutions to specifically
apply for educational site status or to fall under the
“non-commercial” heading.

The way I read the license, “productive use of the QNX
realtime platform in the operation of a business or
enterprise” (A.1.2.3) would apply unless an educational
institution is not legally a business or enterprise, and
there is no other exception for educational use. Of course
we do also develop publicly-available software and port
public software to QRTP (A.1.2.2), but we would not use all
the systems for that purpose.

Suppose I wrote an application that I wanted to install
on a system in my child’s school? (Say a realtime data
acquisition system for monitoring temperatures inside and
outside the school for educational purposes or something.)
Properly incorporated into the curriculum, this would be
a productive use in the enterprise (and it would not fit
into the guidelines for the traditional QNX educational
site program, which is specifically aimed at colleges.)

While these questions are specific to my situation, I am
asking them here because I think the answers would be of
general interest, particularly if the message is that the
license does not apply to productive use in an educational
setting. If the license is intended to apply, I suggest
some clarification in the license might be in order.

No answer? I wonder can I use QNX RtP as an example RTOS in ukrainian state (charge free)
university? I was hoping to get some info in this thread.

Norton Allen <allen@huarp.harvard.edu> wrote in article <3B8A7FC1.CAB30BB0@huarp.harvard.edu>…
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ed1k <ed1k@yahoo.com> wrote:

No answer? I wonder can I use QNX RtP as an example RTOS in ukrainian state (charge free)
university? I was hoping to get some info in this thread.

Yes … as long as it is not being deployed in a product or for developing
software for commercial use then you are free to use it … for free. For
more information on our educational program you should contact QNX directly
since there may be other benefits that I am not aware of.

Thomas

Thomas (toe-mah) Fletcher QNX Software Systems
thomasf@qnx.com Core OS Technology Group
(613)-591-0931 http://www.qnx.com/

Thank you, Thomas.
I’m going to help them on their request. They’ll contact directly if they are interested of
benefits :wink:
I have one more question. Our company develops and sells power electronic equipment. Our company
does not develop any computer-aided systems. We give to our customers the libraries for
communication with our equipment (under linux). These libraries hide the details of modbus
protocol. Is this software “for commercial use”? Can I add the QNX RtP specific library in order to
propagandize QNX? The software will free and source available.
Eduard.

thomasf@qnx.com wrote in article <9u09dl$elh$3@nntp.qnx.com>…

ed1k <> ed1k@yahoo.com> > wrote:
No answer? I wonder can I use QNX RtP as an example RTOS in ukrainian state (charge free)
university? I was hoping to get some info in this thread.

Yes … as long as it is not being deployed in a product or for developing
software for commercial use then you are free to use it … for free. For
more information on our educational program you should contact QNX directly
since there may be other benefits that I am not aware of.

Thomas

Thomas (toe-mah) Fletcher QNX Software Systems
thomasf@qnx.com > Core OS Technology Group
(613)-591-0931 > http://www.qnx.com/

I’d have to ask our lawyer about this but I would expect that any use of RTP
in any sort of commercial environment would require the purchase of a
developer seat, regardless of whether you’re giving the software away or not.

Now I don’t know if an exception would be made since, as you state, you’re
not selling QNX based systems but the inclusion of the library lets you state
“QNX Ready” (or something) which may gain us a customer down the line.

I think you may want to contact a sales rep just to avoid the possibility of
being on shakey legal ground. We do have such things as “alliances with
strategic partners” (mmmm…marketlicious) where a partner is helping us
in some market or another.

cheers,

Kris

ed1k <ed1k@yahoo.com> wrote:

Thank you, Thomas.
I’m going to help them on their request. They’ll contact directly if they are interested of
benefits > :wink:
I have one more question. Our company develops and sells power electronic equipment. Our company
does not develop any computer-aided systems. We give to our customers the libraries for
communication with our equipment (under linux). These libraries hide the details of modbus
protocol. Is this software “for commercial use”? Can I add the QNX RtP specific library in order to
propagandize QNX? The software will free and source available.
Eduard.

thomasf@qnx.com > wrote in article <9u09dl$elh$> 3@nntp.qnx.com> >…
ed1k <> ed1k@yahoo.com> > wrote:
No answer? I wonder can I use QNX RtP as an example RTOS in ukrainian state (charge free)
university? I was hoping to get some info in this thread.

Yes … as long as it is not being deployed in a product or for developing
software for commercial use then you are free to use it … for free. For
more information on our educational program you should contact QNX directly
since there may be other benefits that I am not aware of.

Thomas

Thomas (toe-mah) Fletcher QNX Software Systems
thomasf@qnx.com > Core OS Technology Group
(613)-591-0931 > http://www.qnx.com/


Kris Warkentin
kewarken@qnx.com
(613)591-0836 x9368
“Computer science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes”
–E.W.Dijkstra

thomasf@qnx.com wrote:

ed1k <> ed1k@yahoo.com> > wrote:
No answer? I wonder can I use QNX RtP as an example RTOS in ukrainian state (charge free)
university? I was hoping to get some info in this thread.

Yes … as long as it is not being deployed in a product or for developing
software for commercial use then you are free to use it … for free. For
more information on our educational program you should contact QNX directly
since there may be other benefits that I am not aware of.

Oh, it’s very interesting. It is really possible to install
QNX6 on machines at university for education students and
preparing TeX Documents or browsing on Internet by employees ?

If QSSL wish to support educational sphere in this way,
I think they should give more information here.

Andy

Thomas

Thomas (toe-mah) Fletcher QNX Software Systems
thomasf@qnx.com > Core OS Technology Group
(613)-591-0931 > http://www.qnx.com/

andy@microstep-mis.com wrote:

Oh, it’s very interesting. It is really possible to install
QNX6 on machines at university for education students and
preparing TeX Documents or browsing on Internet by employees ?

If QSSL wish to support educational sphere in this way,
I think they should give more information here.

Look at http://www.qnx.com/news/busfaq.html, search for “Educational
community”.

I think we also have a “Educational Program”, which might give you
other benefits then “free use”. Send email to info@qnx.com should
get you start.

-xtang

ed1k wrote:

Thank you, Thomas.
I’m going to help them on their request. They’ll contact directly if they are interested of
benefits > :wink:
I have one more question. Our company develops and sells power electronic equipment. Our company
does not develop any computer-aided systems. We give to our customers the libraries for
communication with our equipment (under linux). These libraries hide the details of modbus
protocol. Is this software “for commercial use”? Can I add the QNX RtP specific library in order to
propagandize QNX? The software will free and source available.
Eduard.

I think that if you provide free source for drivers under QNX, QSSL are
more likely to canonize you then chastise you :slight_smile:

Xiaodan Tang <xtang@qnx.com> wrote:

andy@microstep-mis.com > wrote:

Oh, it’s very interesting. It is really possible to install
QNX6 on machines at university for education students and
preparing TeX Documents or browsing on Internet by employees ?

If QSSL wish to support educational sphere in this way,
I think they should give more information here.

Look at > http://www.qnx.com/news/busfaq.html> , search for “Educational
community”.

I’ve red it, but there is “non-comercial use” defined as
“experimentation, proof of concept and personal use”.

In paragraph “Educational community” it is noted that
students and professors can now use QNX also in home,
by my question is if they can use QNX6 freely at university
for educational purposes.

Of course I dislike to argue with QNX staff wheater QNX is free
for universities or not, but e.g. for QNX4 as far I know,
it was able to get approximately 50-90% discount, but not free use.
Also the above mentioned definition does not outline such
possibility. (I would like to be wrong.)

I think we also have a “Educational Program”, which might give you
other benefits then “free use”. Send email to > info@qnx.com > should
get you start.

-xtang