Future of QNX

Hi everybody,

I am deeply worried about the things going on at QSSL. Alec Saunders left
and noone can (or want) to tell why? What is going on? I certainly can see
that QSSL has done a very good job with the new IDE, which was a big effort
and will hopefully be a big success. But something else seems to be going on
behind “closed doors” that might affect QSSL’s (and QNX’s) future. The
company I work for is considering QNX as the next RTOS but for the decision
to fall on QNX, apart from it’s outstanding features and performance, we
need to be shure that QSSL will “live long and prosper”. M$ is trying very
hard to eat up the embedded cake as well, even if CE.NET architecture is
mainly focused on the PDA market. Therfore it frightens me a bit if the VP
of marketing just leaves… I don’t know the reasons for that but I hope,
QSSL and QNX will stay with us for the next few years.
With best regards

Joern Ihlenburg

They stayed in business for rather long time and have too big customer base
to just disappear overnight. M$ is trying indeed, but so far they are mostly
eating embedded Linux cake (well the cake that Linux folks thought was
theirs) and also the cake of realtime extensions for Windows. Whether or not
they will also eat cake of QNX and Windriver depends on how well those
companies respond to challenge. I think past year showed that QNX is not
sitting idle at least, so I don’t see reason to be hopeless yet.

I also think you’re overreacting to Alec leaving QNX. They managed without
him in the past and I am sure they will find someone else. I am not trying
to diminish his role, he did great job. But I think it would be unfair to
other good people there to think that without him company is lost. Don’t
forget that Alec is rather rich man and this job was not something he
depended on, or something he’d feel the need to sacrifice his personal life
for. He might have personal life really and people in his age tend to value
it more I am told :wink:

Staffing decisions on that level are almost never explained to public beyond
some official statement which usually does not say much, let alone in
private companies, so don’t be surprized about ‘closed doors’. I bet M$ did
not quite explain why he left M$ either and he was VP there as well. Nobody
panicked about him leaving M$ though. Personally I think it was a
combination of personal factors and perhaps some disagreements with the rest
of QNX management… so he probably just did not think it is worth his while
to fight for his point of view given his personal situation.

– igor

“Jörn Ihlenburg” <ihlenburg@web.de> wrote in message
news:af4l37$a63$1@inn.qnx.com

Hi everybody,

I am deeply worried about the things going on at QSSL. Alec Saunders left
and noone can (or want) to tell why? What is going on? I certainly can see
that QSSL has done a very good job with the new IDE, which was a big
effort
and will hopefully be a big success. But something else seems to be going
on
behind “closed doors” that might affect QSSL’s (and QNX’s) future. The
company I work for is considering QNX as the next RTOS but for the
decision
to fall on QNX, apart from it’s outstanding features and performance, we
need to be shure that QSSL will “live long and prosper”. M$ is trying very
hard to eat up the embedded cake as well, even if CE.NET architecture is
mainly focused on the PDA market. Therfore it frightens me a bit if the VP
of marketing just leaves… I don’t know the reasons for that but I hope,
QSSL and QNX will stay with us for the next few years.
With best regards

Joern Ihlenburg

Thanks Igor what a relief, I just needed some kind of explaination from one
of the “insiders”. I hope, that the new IDE will lead QNX to an ever growing
market share ( actually I’m looking forward to recieve an eval copy of the
IDE next week from our QSSL sales rep.). I have worked with Windriver’s
Tornado in the past (and I was not impressed, to be polite) and I’m now
working with Eclipse under Java all day long. If the IDE holds what the
marketing people are promising, things are looking bright for the future.
Cheers

Joern

“Igor Kovalenko” <kovalenko@attbi.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:af57uo$luv$1@inn.qnx.com

They stayed in business for rather long time and have too big customer
base
to just disappear overnight. M$ is trying indeed, but so far they are
mostly
eating embedded Linux cake (well the cake that Linux folks thought was
theirs) and also the cake of realtime extensions for Windows. Whether or
not
they will also eat cake of QNX and Windriver depends on how well those
companies respond to challenge. I think past year showed that QNX is not
sitting idle at least, so I don’t see reason to be hopeless yet.

I also think you’re overreacting to Alec leaving QNX. They managed without
him in the past and I am sure they will find someone else. I am not trying
to diminish his role, he did great job. But I think it would be unfair to
other good people there to think that without him company is lost. Don’t
forget that Alec is rather rich man and this job was not something he
depended on, or something he’d feel the need to sacrifice his personal
life
for. He might have personal life really and people in his age tend to
value
it more I am told > :wink:

Staffing decisions on that level are almost never explained to public
beyond
some official statement which usually does not say much, let alone in
private companies, so don’t be surprized about ‘closed doors’. I bet M$
did
not quite explain why he left M$ either and he was VP there as well.
Nobody
panicked about him leaving M$ though. Personally I think it was a
combination of personal factors and perhaps some disagreements with the
rest
of QNX management… so he probably just did not think it is worth his
while
to fight for his point of view given his personal situation.

– igor

“Jörn Ihlenburg” <> ihlenburg@web.de> > wrote in message
news:af4l37$a63$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Hi everybody,

I am deeply worried about the things going on at QSSL. Alec Saunders
left
and noone can (or want) to tell why? What is going on? I certainly can
see
that QSSL has done a very good job with the new IDE, which was a big
effort
and will hopefully be a big success. But something else seems to be
going
on
behind “closed doors” that might affect QSSL’s (and QNX’s) future. The
company I work for is considering QNX as the next RTOS but for the
decision
to fall on QNX, apart from it’s outstanding features and performance, we
need to be shure that QSSL will “live long and prosper”. M$ is trying
very
hard to eat up the embedded cake as well, even if CE.NET architecture is
mainly focused on the PDA market. Therfore it frightens me a bit if the
VP
of marketing just leaves… I don’t know the reasons for that but I
hope,
QSSL and QNX will stay with us for the next few years.
With best regards

Joern Ihlenburg
\

So if you’re now working with Eclipse under Java all day long, could you
post some of your experience with it? How does it compare with Tornado?
Unfortunately, I have only the NC free version and no IDE
Thanks for you info…
Markus


“Jörn Ihlenburg” <ihlenburg@web.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:af595p$mjs$1@inn.qnx.com

Thanks Igor what a relief, I just needed some kind of explaination from
one
of the “insiders”. I hope, that the new IDE will lead QNX to an ever
growing
market share ( actually I’m looking forward to recieve an eval copy of the
IDE next week from our QSSL sales rep.). I have worked with Windriver’s
Tornado in the past (and I was not impressed, to be polite) and I’m now
working with Eclipse under Java all day long. If the IDE holds what the
marketing people are promising, things are looking bright for the future.
Cheers

Joern

“Igor Kovalenko” <> kovalenko@attbi.com> > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:af57uo$luv$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
They stayed in business for rather long time and have too big customer
base
to just disappear overnight. M$ is trying indeed, but so far they are
mostly
eating embedded Linux cake (well the cake that Linux folks thought was
theirs) and also the cake of realtime extensions for Windows. Whether or
not
they will also eat cake of QNX and Windriver depends on how well those
companies respond to challenge. I think past year showed that QNX is not
sitting idle at least, so I don’t see reason to be hopeless yet.

I also think you’re overreacting to Alec leaving QNX. They managed
without
him in the past and I am sure they will find someone else. I am not
trying
to diminish his role, he did great job. But I think it would be unfair
to
other good people there to think that without him company is lost. Don’t
forget that Alec is rather rich man and this job was not something he
depended on, or something he’d feel the need to sacrifice his personal
life
for. He might have personal life really and people in his age tend to
value
it more I am told > :wink:

Staffing decisions on that level are almost never explained to public
beyond
some official statement which usually does not say much, let alone in
private companies, so don’t be surprized about ‘closed doors’. I bet M$
did
not quite explain why he left M$ either and he was VP there as well.
Nobody
panicked about him leaving M$ though. Personally I think it was a
combination of personal factors and perhaps some disagreements with the
rest
of QNX management… so he probably just did not think it is worth his
while
to fight for his point of view given his personal situation.

– igor

“Jörn Ihlenburg” <> ihlenburg@web.de> > wrote in message
news:af4l37$a63$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Hi everybody,

I am deeply worried about the things going on at QSSL. Alec Saunders
left
and noone can (or want) to tell why? What is going on? I certainly can
see
that QSSL has done a very good job with the new IDE, which was a big
effort
and will hopefully be a big success. But something else seems to be
going
on
behind “closed doors” that might affect QSSL’s (and QNX’s) future. The
company I work for is considering QNX as the next RTOS but for the
decision
to fall on QNX, apart from it’s outstanding features and performance,
we
need to be shure that QSSL will “live long and prosper”. M$ is trying
very
hard to eat up the embedded cake as well, even if CE.NET architecture
is
mainly focused on the PDA market. Therfore it frightens me a bit if
the
VP
of marketing just leaves… I don’t know the reasons for that but I
hope,
QSSL and QNX will stay with us for the next few years.
With best regards

Joern Ihlenburg


\

Hi Markus,

I’m working with Eclipse, not Momentics. But, as far as the Java IDE of
Eclipse is concerned, I’m very satisfied with it. It’s the best Java IDE,
i’v ever used…
I can comment on Momentics IDE at the end of this week, since I’ve recieved
my testing copy today…
Cheers

Joern

“Markus Löffler” <markus@loffler.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:af5d8b$ph2$1@inn.qnx.com

So if you’re now working with Eclipse under Java all day long, could you
post some of your experience with it? How does it compare with Tornado?
Unfortunately, I have only the NC free version and no IDE
Thanks for you info…
Markus


“Jörn Ihlenburg” <> ihlenburg@web.de> > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:af595p$mjs$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Thanks Igor what a relief, I just needed some kind of explaination from
one
of the “insiders”. I hope, that the new IDE will lead QNX to an ever
growing
market share ( actually I’m looking forward to recieve an eval copy of
the
IDE next week from our QSSL sales rep.). I have worked with Windriver’s
Tornado in the past (and I was not impressed, to be polite) and I’m now
working with Eclipse under Java all day long. If the IDE holds what the
marketing people are promising, things are looking bright for the
future.
Cheers

Joern

“Igor Kovalenko” <> kovalenko@attbi.com> > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:af57uo$luv$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
They stayed in business for rather long time and have too big customer
base
to just disappear overnight. M$ is trying indeed, but so far they are
mostly
eating embedded Linux cake (well the cake that Linux folks thought
was
theirs) and also the cake of realtime extensions for Windows. Whether
or
not
they will also eat cake of QNX and Windriver depends on how well those
companies respond to challenge. I think past year showed that QNX is
not
sitting idle at least, so I don’t see reason to be hopeless yet.

I also think you’re overreacting to Alec leaving QNX. They managed
without
him in the past and I am sure they will find someone else. I am not
trying
to diminish his role, he did great job. But I think it would be unfair
to
other good people there to think that without him company is lost.
Don’t
forget that Alec is rather rich man and this job was not something he
depended on, or something he’d feel the need to sacrifice his personal
life
for. He might have personal life really and people in his age tend to
value
it more I am told > :wink:

Staffing decisions on that level are almost never explained to public
beyond
some official statement which usually does not say much, let alone in
private companies, so don’t be surprized about ‘closed doors’. I bet
M$
did
not quite explain why he left M$ either and he was VP there as well.
Nobody
panicked about him leaving M$ though. Personally I think it was a
combination of personal factors and perhaps some disagreements with
the
rest
of QNX management… so he probably just did not think it is worth his
while
to fight for his point of view given his personal situation.

– igor

“Jörn Ihlenburg” <> ihlenburg@web.de> > wrote in message
news:af4l37$a63$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Hi everybody,

I am deeply worried about the things going on at QSSL. Alec Saunders
left
and noone can (or want) to tell why? What is going on? I certainly
can
see
that QSSL has done a very good job with the new IDE, which was a big
effort
and will hopefully be a big success. But something else seems to be
going
on
behind “closed doors” that might affect QSSL’s (and QNX’s) future.
The
company I work for is considering QNX as the next RTOS but for the
decision
to fall on QNX, apart from it’s outstanding features and
performance,
we
need to be shure that QSSL will “live long and prosper”. M$ is
trying
very
hard to eat up the embedded cake as well, even if CE.NET
architecture
is
mainly focused on the PDA market. Therfore it frightens me a bit if
the
VP
of marketing just leaves… I don’t know the reasons for that but I
hope,
QSSL and QNX will stay with us for the next few years.
With best regards

Joern Ihlenburg




\

Joern Ihlenburg <joern.ihlenburg@bizerba.com> wrote:

I’m working with Eclipse, not Momentics. But, as far as the Java IDE of
Eclipse is concerned, I’m very satisfied with it. It’s the best Java IDE,
i’v ever used…
I can comment on Momentics IDE at the end of this week, since I’ve recieved
my testing copy today…

Ah, the naming confusion begins. Momentics is the name of ALL THREE of the
development environments. The IDE in the PE version IS eclipse, with some
specific “plugins” (to use the eclipse terminology) that provide additional
functionality for the QNX environment.

If you want to play with the eclipse IDE, then you can download it for free
from http://www.eclipse.org and play with it today. You should also be able
to find instructions for making that version run on Windows, Solaris, and
QNX6 (NC and SE versions). In fact you will be running a NEWER version of
the eclipse IDE than the one that ships with PE (the difference being that
the version that ships in PE is stable an known to work properly with all
the plugins, while the version from eclipse.org may not work properly with
the official PE plugins).

Cheers,
Camz.