which way to go? Linux or QNX?

Igor Levko <spama@nihrena.net> wrote:
:> Put up, or make constructive suggestions. Please!

: This is a very dungerouse request believe me. This is one of the best way to
: kill any
: critique. Why the hell he has to tell QSSL how to implement their own code?!
: Is he a leading designer of QNX? No, but he is the customer and IMHO one
: of the purposes
: of these news groups was that people can not only say how beautiful QNX is
: but also
: express their opnion if there is something wrong.
: IMHO QNX has to pay people like IgorK because sometimes naming a problem is
: 50% of solving it.

By doing this(paying everytime), Igor would be rich now. We've used to have a t-shirt "You've been Igored" The whining about malloc, way back, was my incentive for porting a different malloc(Steve Mc..) to Neutino.

: Cheers,
: Igor

My 0.00000 of Nortel shares.

%% Alain Magloire <alain@qnx.com> writes:

am> My 0.00000 of Nortel shares.

Ouch! Hey, we gained $0.01 (US) today!

:slight_smile:

Paul D. Smith <pausmith@nortelnetworks.com> HASMAT–HA Software Mthds & Tools
“Please remain calm…I may be mad, but I am a professional.” --Mad Scientist

These are my opinions—Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them.

“Bill Caroselli (Q-TPS)” <QTPS@EarthLink.net> wrote in message
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“Robert Krten” <> nospam83@parse.com> > wrote in message
news:amrdak$6ve$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …

I’m not going to apologize for defending the QNX OS – it’s a damn
good

OS.
Put up, or make constructive suggestions. Please!

-RK

It IS a fantastic OS. I’ve bitched too. You all know that. But I still
know that they’ve done most things right. And 6 IS better than 4.

I think that if QSSL could get a better compiler from ANYWHERE (and sorry,
no I don’t know where) it would improve many things many times over.
Short
of that then maybe some profiling and hand generating certain key routines
in asm is the answer. I know this idea sucks because it means there is a
different source for each platform.

If you need so much “any other compiler” check www.openwatcom.com where you
can find the full source code for Watcom 11.x.
It’s quite portable and can be built at least for QNX4 with Watcom 10.6. Of
course it’s targeted to x86 only.

// wbr

“Alain Magloire” <alain@qnx.com> wrote in message
news:amt7cq$eah$1@nntp.qnx.com

Igor Levko <> spama@nihrena.net> > wrote:
:> Put up, or make constructive suggestions. Please!

: This is a very dungerouse request believe me. This is one of the best
way to
: kill any
: critique. Why the hell he has to tell QSSL how to implement their own
code?!
: Is he a leading designer of QNX? No, but he is the customer and IMHO
one
: of the purposes
: of these news groups was that people can not only say how beautiful QNX
is
: but also
: express their opnion if there is something wrong.
: IMHO QNX has to pay people like IgorK because sometimes naming a problem
is
: 50% of solving it.

to easy
By doing this(paying everytime), Igor would be rich now.
We’ve used to have a t-shirt “You’ve been Igored”

Hey Alain, you aren’t saying yours has wore out, are you? Or laundry
detergent ate the markings? :wink:

off-topic
The whining about malloc, way back, was my incentive for porting
a different malloc(Steve Mc…) to Neutino.
/off-topic
/to easy

Rumors have it that there are still ‘some bottleneck’.

Cheers,
– igor

To be honest, I’ve burned the 6.2 CD but have not installed it.

“Miguel Simon” <simon@ou.edu> wrote in message
news:3D920406.3020005@ou.edu

Hi Bill…

Bill Caroselli (Q-TPS) wrote:
I got almost 6x speed improvements over 6.01a by just coding memmove()
in
asm. No MMX needed. The gcc compiler just doesn’t produce good code.
I
think the real problem was that after each byte moved, it kept checking
to
see if it won yet or not. I took that part out. ;~}

I wonder, is the same still true for 6.2.0, or was that part fixed with
something similar to your solution in the latest rtp version?


bests…

Miguel.

If you need so much “any other compiler” check > www.openwatcom.com > where
you
can find the full source code for Watcom 11.x.

Full source, where?

It’s quite portable and can be built at least for QNX4 with Watcom 10.6.
Of
course it’s targeted to x86 only.

// wbr

www.openqnx.com posted a news with the exact download url when
openwatcom 11.x source was first released. go there and dig
the “old” news :slight_smile:

frank

Mario Charest postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote:

If you need so much “any other compiler” check > www.openwatcom.com > where
you
can find the full source code for Watcom 11.x.

Full source, where?

It’s quite portable and can be built at least for QNX4 with Watcom 10.6.
Of
course it’s targeted to x86 only.

// wbr

“Mario Charest” postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote in message
news:an09oa$q9u$1@inn.qnx.com

If you need so much “any other compiler” check > www.openwatcom.com > where
you
can find the full source code for Watcom 11.x.

Full source, where?

ftp://ftp.openwatcom.com in general and as an example here
ftp://ftp.openwatcom.com/watcom/openwatcom/

I tried version 0.8.4

Of course its clib dosn’t include QNX specific code. QNX isn’t supported by
OpenWatcom at all.

// wbr

Yes, but QNX-cpecific libc code is posted on cvs.qnx.com I understand.
I’ve heard some utility to build it is missing, but that should not be
an obstacle for a die-hard QNX4 fan with lots of expereince, should it? :wink:

Ian Zagorskih wrote:

“Mario Charest” postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote in message
news:an09oa$q9u$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …

If you need so much “any other compiler” check > www.openwatcom.com > where

you

can find the full source code for Watcom 11.x.

Full source, where?


ftp://ftp.openwatcom.com > in general and as an example here
ftp://ftp.openwatcom.com/watcom/openwatcom/

I tried version 0.8.4

Of course its clib dosn’t include QNX specific code. QNX isn’t supported by
OpenWatcom at all.

// wbr

“Igor Kovalenko” <kovalenko@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:3D94227F.9030005@attbi.com

Yes, but QNX-cpecific libc code is posted on cvs.qnx.com I understand.
I’ve heard some utility to build it is missing, but that should not be
an obstacle for a die-hard QNX4 fan with lots of expereince, should it? > :wink:

Oh yes, of course ! For hard core QNX4 fans who programmed even IBM 1130 and
know as own five fingers iRMX86, iRMX286, VAX/VMS,
Unix, Xenix, and Linux this shouldn’t be a challenge at all. Guess a 48
hours mind storm at some weekend and the deal’s done. Not so much to do,
really. For hard core QNX4 fans of course, not for me.

Ian Zagorskih wrote:
“Mario Charest” postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote in message
news:an09oa$q9u$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …

If you need so much “any other compiler” check > www.openwatcom.com > where

you

can find the full source code for Watcom 11.x.

Full source, where?


ftp://ftp.openwatcom.com > in general and as an example here
ftp://ftp.openwatcom.com/watcom/openwatcom/

I tried version 0.8.4

Of course its clib dosn’t include QNX specific code. QNX isn’t supported
by
OpenWatcom at all.

// wbr

“Ian Zagorskih” <NOSPAM-ianzag@megasignal.com> wrote in message
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Oh yes, of course ! For hard core QNX4 fans who programmed even IBM 1130

I actually still had card decks dating from 1975 for the 1130 in my basement
(card decks in the basement, not an 1130) up until my move to Florida 5
years ago. Now I’m sorry I tossed them because my kids wouldn’t believe me
if I told them that I had to program that way back then.

I don’t know whether to be proud or embarrassed, but I could actually read
Hollerith (punch) code. I didn’t have to rely on the print along the top of
the card. Good thing because the ink ribbons were always in need of
replacement!

Hard core QNX fans are those who remember what it was like to run QNX1.0 on
a single-floppy, no hard drive PC with key development tools in a ramdisk
and think that the performance was wonderful! But I don’t remember that at
all. They say the 2nd thing to go is your memory, and I can’t remember the
1st. :wink:

Bill Flowers
Insight Control Systems
Safety Harbor, FL

“William A. Flowers” <wflowers_NOSPAM@insightcontrol.com> wrote in message
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“Ian Zagorskih” <> NOSPAM-ianzag@megasignal.com> > wrote in message
news:an1b6o$jq5$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Oh yes, of course ! For hard core QNX4 fans who programmed even IBM 1130



But I don’t remember that at
all. They say the 2nd thing to go is your memory, and I can’t remember
the
1st. > :wink:

Maybe your wife does :wink:))))


Bill Flowers
Insight Control Systems
Safety Harbor, FL