figures about QNX...

Hi…

Look at the latest issue of Embedded Systems, or at:

http://www.embedded.com/story/OEG20030417S0046

also

http://www.ghs.com/MarketShare.html


I wonder what people that know more about these things say with regard to:

  • According to the figures, is QSSL doing good or bad?

QSSL looks healthy to me, but…

  • …do we agree that the traditional embedded market is dying?

Hard for me to assess, and the reason why I ask the question…


Regards…

Miguel.

It’s what I don’t like about some of these columnists. They wish to stir
people up so that they will read their publication. I read VDC’s white
paper, it indicates market growth through 2007, not an implosion… (ok,
there was a decline in VxWorks revenues…, but does that mean implosion of
the whole market?)

I think the line between real-time requirements and embedded is being
blurred, some will even think it is the same thing. It will be interesting
how microsoft plays out in this in the future. They are getting into
embedded stuff (embedded consumer), but how are they doing outside the
consumer/IT, non-control/critical related world?

Kevin

“Miguel Simon” <simon@ou.edu> wrote in message
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Hi…

Look at the latest issue of Embedded Systems, or at:

http://www.embedded.com/story/OEG20030417S0046

also

http://www.ghs.com/MarketShare.html


I wonder what people that know more about these things say with regard to:

  • According to the figures, is QSSL doing good or bad?

QSSL looks healthy to me, but…

  • …do we agree that the traditional embedded market is dying?

Hard for me to assess, and the reason why I ask the question…


Regards…

Miguel.

Kevin Stallard wrote:

It’s what I don’t like about some of these columnists. They wish to stir
people up so that they will read their publication. I read VDC’s white
paper, it indicates market growth through 2007, not an implosion… (ok,
there was a decline in VxWorks revenues…, but does that mean implosion of
the whole market?)

Nope.

IMO QNX stands to pick up after all the failed Linux experiments (there
have already been a couple of Linux → QNX switches), since it is the most
compatible with the source developed. The number that matters is not sales
in single year, but the delta over the last 5 years (i.e. whom is growing
the fastest). Not to underestimate the power of the beast of course, which
is probably the greatest threat to QNX.

btw: IMO most of the stuff Jack Ganssle writes is (to be generous) less
than insightful…

Rennie Allen wrote:

(there have already been a couple of Linux → QNX switches)

That’s good for some publicity. Where are the articles
mentioning this?

John Nagle
Animats

“John Nagle” <nagle@downside.com> wrote in message
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Rennie Allen wrote:
(there have already been a couple of Linux → QNX switches)

That’s good for some publicity. Where are the articles
mentioning this?

Indeed. We need data :slight_smile: Not only for general publicity, but for internal
sales jobs. Some of us have had a tough job selling QNX to our upper
management (vs Linux or MS).

Steve

Steve Cobb wrote:

Indeed. We need data > :slight_smile: > Not only for general publicity, but for internal
sales jobs. Some of us have had a tough job selling QNX to our upper
management (vs Linux or MS).

Unfortunately, those who make sub-optimal choices are not often inclined to
publicize the fact :wink:

Look for articles/stories with statements like “QNX was selected due to it’s
relatively high level of source compatibility with the existing code base” (it
is very unlikely that statements such as these refer to existing Windows code
bases :slight_smile:

Rennie

Miguel Simon wrote:

http://www.ghs.com/MarketShare.html

Note the footnote: “Green Hills Software now ranks #2 in RTOS company size
(trailing only Wind River Systems, which is not shown in the chart above). The
chart also excluded any companies whose software revenue is principally
associated with desktop or PDA applications, which constitute a different market
(Microsoft, Palm, Symbian, etc.).”

Wind River’s revenues for fiscal 2001 were $351 million, almost
eight times as much as Green Hills and over ten times that of QNX.
Wind River is losing money at a huge rate, though, and sales are
down. Wind River has real financial problems. Their net loss for
2001 was $376 million, and for 2002 it was $107 million.
(Some of this is “Impairment of goodwill and purchased intangibles”,
which means they did some disasterous merger and acquisition
activity.)

John Nagle