Quantum Arcnet Adapter

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Hope someone can help.

I am trying to install a Quantum Arcnet Adapter onto a Pentium HP Vectra XU
6/200 or better.
The OS is Qnx 2.21 and we are running Bailey PCV 4.2D. The computer boots up
fine as a single node without the Arcnet card installed. I previously
installed the OS on a 486 66Mhz machine.
When I install the card I get the NODE ##, and then it seems to hang up,
keyboard stops responding.
I verified the card settings and are correct.
When I select to boot from the network it does access node 2 and starts
booting, but then reports it can not find certain directories and I just get
a login prompt.
I tried the speed_correct and speed_patch utilities and nothing seemed to
have changed regarding the Arcnet card.
I installed the same card and hard disk into the 486 and all works fine.
Are the Quantum Arcnet Adapters, (CorNet V2.4), compatible with a Pentium?
Is there a different setup procedure for Pentiums?

Thanks,
C. Mark Leeworthy
Celgar Pulp Co.

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Previously, markle wrote in qdn.public.qnx2:

You might want to contact Corman directly about this problem.
I have a Corman card working in a 150Mhz PI, but I’ve never
tried it in anything faster. At 486 and above speeds QNX 2.21
has some network bugs that won’t be fixed, although not all
systems will be affected.

I think the story with the these cards and Pentiums is that you
are on your own. While I’ve never owned an HP computer, the
rumors have always been that they think they know how to build
them better, so they do, but then they are always a little
different. This could be the source of your trouble.

Hope someone can help.

I am trying to install a Quantum Arcnet Adapter onto a Pentium HP Vectra XU
6/200 or better.
The OS is Qnx 2.21 and we are running Bailey PCV 4.2D. The computer boots up
fine as a single node without the Arcnet card installed. I previously
installed the OS on a 486 66Mhz machine.
When I install the card I get the NODE ##, and then it seems to hang up,
keyboard stops responding.
I verified the card settings and are correct.
When I select to boot from the network it does access node 2 and starts
booting, but then reports it can not find certain directories and I just get
a login prompt.
I tried the speed_correct and speed_patch utilities and nothing seemed to
have changed regarding the Arcnet card.
I installed the same card and hard disk into the 486 and all works fine.
Are the Quantum Arcnet Adapters, (CorNet V2.4), compatible with a Pentium?
Is there a different setup procedure for Pentiums?

Mitchell Schoenbrun --------- maschoen@pobox.com

3

Yes, you sometimes have to tweak the cmos setup settings to get Qnx2.21 to
work on a Pentium.
It varies depending upon the computer and the bios. We had the most trouble
with a P-200 with MMX.

On a P200 I had to disable the External Cache, and then to get the floppy
drive to function I also had to disable the Internal Cache.

On a P150 I had some other problems with hard drive access and had to change
LBA settings, don’t remember exactly what at the moment.

We also had some trouble with a Toshiba booting over the network, that had
to do with it not recognizing the arcnet card as a valid boot card. We
never did get that one resolved, so we always booted locally and then
connected to the network without any problems.

Try the disabling the cache, and if that doesn’t work, maybe someone else
has some suggestions for your specific computer and/or bios.

ms…

markle <markle@direct.ca> wrote in message news:9cpibt$mlf$1@inn.qnx.com…

Hope someone can help.

I am trying to install a Quantum Arcnet Adapter onto a Pentium HP Vectra
XU
6/200 or better.
The OS is Qnx 2.21 and we are running Bailey PCV 4.2D. The computer boots
up
fine as a single node without the Arcnet card installed. I previously
installed the OS on a 486 66Mhz machine.
When I install the card I get the NODE ##, and then it seems to hang up,
keyboard stops responding.
I verified the card settings and are correct.
When I select to boot from the network it does access node 2 and starts
booting, but then reports it can not find certain directories and I just
get
a login prompt.
I tried the speed_correct and speed_patch utilities and nothing seemed to
have changed regarding the Arcnet card.
I installed the same card and hard disk into the 486 and all works fine.
Are the Quantum Arcnet Adapters, (CorNet V2.4), compatible with a
Pentium?
Is there a different setup procedure for Pentiums?

Thanks,
C. Mark Leeworthy
Celgar Pulp Co.

4

if there is a way to drop the speed of the isa bus down that could help too.
the corman cards weren’t setup for speeds > 8Mhz on the bus … but corman
may have done some work on this.

it is not good when you need to make a pentium run like a 486.

Mitchell Schoenbrun <maschoen@pobox.com> wrote:

Previously, markle wrote in qdn.public.qnx2:

You might want to contact Corman directly about this problem.
I have a Corman card working in a 150Mhz PI, but I’ve never
tried it in anything faster. At 486 and above speeds QNX 2.21
has some network bugs that won’t be fixed, although not all
systems will be affected.

I think the story with the these cards and Pentiums is that you
are on your own. While I’ve never owned an HP computer, the
rumors have always been that they think they know how to build
them better, so they do, but then they are always a little
different. This could be the source of your trouble.

Hope someone can help.

I am trying to install a Quantum Arcnet Adapter onto a Pentium HP Vectra XU
6/200 or better.
The OS is Qnx 2.21 and we are running Bailey PCV 4.2D. The computer boots up
fine as a single node without the Arcnet card installed. I previously
installed the OS on a 486 66Mhz machine.
When I install the card I get the NODE ##, and then it seems to hang up,
keyboard stops responding.
I verified the card settings and are correct.
When I select to boot from the network it does access node 2 and starts
booting, but then reports it can not find certain directories and I just get
a login prompt.
I tried the speed_correct and speed_patch utilities and nothing seemed to
have changed regarding the Arcnet card.
I installed the same card and hard disk into the 486 and all works fine.
Are the Quantum Arcnet Adapters, (CorNet V2.4), compatible with a Pentium?
Is there a different setup procedure for Pentiums?

Mitchell Schoenbrun --------- > maschoen@pobox.com

–
Randy Martin randy@qnx.com
Manager of FAE Group, North America
QNX Software Systems www.qnx.com
175 Terence Matthews Crescent, Kanata, Ontario, Canada K2M 1W8
Tel: 613-591-0931 Fax: 613-591-3579

5

Thanks for the reply,

There does not seem to be any Bios settings or jumpers for changing the bus
speed for this particular HP model.
Apparently HP PC’s are known for being difficult sometimes.

I contacted Coreman about the problem.
There may be some conflicts with some of the PC’s onboard components and
memory allocation.
I think we are going try a new motherboard without all the bells and
whistles.
I’m thinking ASUS motherboard and using a AMD K6 II suggested by Corman.
Any suggestions on what I should components should be used??

We are not to concerned with achieving too much power as much for hardware
reliability and availability.
We would like to keep the Operating consoles alive for another 2-3 years or
until we upgrade out complete mill system.
We have approximately 32 - 486-33Mhz machines and our spares are slowly
depleting.

Thanks again for your response.
C. Mark Leeworthy

“Randy Martin” <randy@qnx.com> wrote in message
news:9cskh0$bgt$2@nntp.qnx.com…

if there is a way to drop the speed of the isa bus down that could help
too.
the corman cards weren’t setup for speeds > 8Mhz on the bus … but corman
may have done some work on this.

it is not good when you need to make a pentium run like a 486.

Mitchell Schoenbrun <> maschoen@pobox.com> > wrote:
Previously, markle wrote in qdn.public.qnx2:

You might want to contact Corman directly about this problem.
I have a Corman card working in a 150Mhz PI, but I’ve never
tried it in anything faster. At 486 and above speeds QNX 2.21
has some network bugs that won’t be fixed, although not all
systems will be affected.

I think the story with the these cards and Pentiums is that you
are on your own. While I’ve never owned an HP computer, the
rumors have always been that they think they know how to build
them better, so they do, but then they are always a little
different. This could be the source of your trouble.

Hope someone can help.

I am trying to install a Quantum Arcnet Adapter onto a Pentium HP
Vectra XU
6/200 or better.
The OS is Qnx 2.21 and we are running Bailey PCV 4.2D. The computer
boots up
fine as a single node without the Arcnet card installed. I previously
installed the OS on a 486 66Mhz machine.
When I install the card I get the NODE ##, and then it seems to hang
up,
keyboard stops responding.
I verified the card settings and are correct.
When I select to boot from the network it does access node 2 and starts
booting, but then reports it can not find certain directories and I
just get
a login prompt.
I tried the speed_correct and speed_patch utilities and nothing seemed
to
have changed regarding the Arcnet card.
I installed the same card and hard disk into the 486 and all works
fine.
Are the Quantum Arcnet Adapters, (CorNet V2.4), compatible with a
Pentium?
Is there a different setup procedure for Pentiums?

Mitchell Schoenbrun --------- > maschoen@pobox.com

\

Randy Martin > randy@qnx.com
Manager of FAE Group, North America
QNX Software Systems > www.qnx.com
175 Terence Matthews Crescent, Kanata, Ontario, Canada K2M 1W8
Tel: 613-591-0931 Fax: 613-591-3579

6

Thanks for your input.
As I mentioned to Mitchell Schoenbrun reply, there are no options for
changing caching or bus speeds.
Our plan now is to try to find a motherboard and processor set that we can
install into our existing boxes.
We need at least 3 ISA slots for the cards we use.
Any suggestions will be appreciated.

“Mike Schneider” <Mike.Schneider@us.heidelberg.com> wrote in message
news:9crcas$ro7$1@inn.qnx.com…

Yes, you sometimes have to tweak the cmos setup settings to get Qnx2.21 to
work on a Pentium.
It varies depending upon the computer and the bios. We had the most
trouble
with a P-200 with MMX.

On a P200 I had to disable the External Cache, and then to get the floppy
drive to function I also had to disable the Internal Cache.

On a P150 I had some other problems with hard drive access and had to
change
LBA settings, don’t remember exactly what at the moment.

We also had some trouble with a Toshiba booting over the network, that had
to do with it not recognizing the arcnet card as a valid boot card. We
never did get that one resolved, so we always booted locally and then
connected to the network without any problems.

Try the disabling the cache, and if that doesn’t work, maybe someone else
has some suggestions for your specific computer and/or bios.

ms…

markle <> markle@direct.ca> > wrote in message
news:9cpibt$mlf$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Hope someone can help.

I am trying to install a Quantum Arcnet Adapter onto a Pentium HP Vectra
XU
6/200 or better.
The OS is Qnx 2.21 and we are running Bailey PCV 4.2D. The computer
boots
up
fine as a single node without the Arcnet card installed. I previously
installed the OS on a 486 66Mhz machine.
When I install the card I get the NODE ##, and then it seems to hang up,
keyboard stops responding.
I verified the card settings and are correct.
When I select to boot from the network it does access node 2 and starts
booting, but then reports it can not find certain directories and I just
get
a login prompt.
I tried the speed_correct and speed_patch utilities and nothing seemed
to
have changed regarding the Arcnet card.
I installed the same card and hard disk into the 486 and all works fine.
Are the Quantum Arcnet Adapters, (CorNet V2.4), compatible with a
Pentium?
Is there a different setup procedure for Pentiums?

Thanks,
C. Mark Leeworthy
Celgar Pulp Co.

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On Thu, 3 May 2001 23:20:48 -0700, “markle” <markle@direct.ca> wrote:

Thanks for your input.
As I mentioned to Mitchell Schoenbrun reply, there are no options for
changing caching or bus speeds.
Our plan now is to try to find a motherboard and processor set that we can
install into our existing boxes.
We need at least 3 ISA slots for the cards we use.
Any suggestions will be appreciated.

You shouldn’t have any problem if you look for SBC and passive
backplane. I will cost more but you should’nt have any problem
finding the CPU you need and as many ISA slot as you’d like.

“Mike Schneider” <> Mike.Schneider@us.heidelberg.com> > wrote in message
news:9crcas$ro7$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Yes, you sometimes have to tweak the cmos setup settings to get Qnx2.21 to
work on a Pentium.
It varies depending upon the computer and the bios. We had the most
trouble
with a P-200 with MMX.

On a P200 I had to disable the External Cache, and then to get the floppy
drive to function I also had to disable the Internal Cache.

On a P150 I had some other problems with hard drive access and had to
change
LBA settings, don’t remember exactly what at the moment.

We also had some trouble with a Toshiba booting over the network, that had
to do with it not recognizing the arcnet card as a valid boot card. We
never did get that one resolved, so we always booted locally and then
connected to the network without any problems.

Try the disabling the cache, and if that doesn’t work, maybe someone else
has some suggestions for your specific computer and/or bios.

ms…

markle <> markle@direct.ca> > wrote in message
news:9cpibt$mlf$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Hope someone can help.

I am trying to install a Quantum Arcnet Adapter onto a Pentium HP Vectra
XU
6/200 or better.
The OS is Qnx 2.21 and we are running Bailey PCV 4.2D. The computer
boots
up
fine as a single node without the Arcnet card installed. I previously
installed the OS on a 486 66Mhz machine.
When I install the card I get the NODE ##, and then it seems to hang up,
keyboard stops responding.
I verified the card settings and are correct.
When I select to boot from the network it does access node 2 and starts
booting, but then reports it can not find certain directories and I just
get
a login prompt.
I tried the speed_correct and speed_patch utilities and nothing seemed
to
have changed regarding the Arcnet card.
I installed the same card and hard disk into the 486 and all works fine.
Are the Quantum Arcnet Adapters, (CorNet V2.4), compatible with a
Pentium?
Is there a different setup procedure for Pentiums?

Thanks,
C. Mark Leeworthy
Celgar Pulp Co.

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Go to http://www.baber.com as they have new and refurbished motherboards.
Finding one with 3 ISA slots is easy, try finding them with 4 or more. :slight_smile:
Lots tougher.

Also Soyo currently has the SY-5EHM with 3 ISA slots - go to soyo.com to
check it out.

Jim

markle <markle@direct.ca> wrote in message news:9cthac$924$1@inn.qnx.com…

Thanks for your input.
As I mentioned to Mitchell Schoenbrun reply, there are no options for
changing caching or bus speeds.
Our plan now is to try to find a motherboard and processor set that we can
install into our existing boxes.
We need at least 3 ISA slots for the cards we use.
Any suggestions will be appreciated.

“Mike Schneider” <> Mike.Schneider@us.heidelberg.com> > wrote in message
news:9crcas$ro7$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Yes, you sometimes have to tweak the cmos setup settings to get Qnx2.21
to
work on a Pentium.
It varies depending upon the computer and the bios. We had the most
trouble
with a P-200 with MMX.

On a P200 I had to disable the External Cache, and then to get the
floppy
drive to function I also had to disable the Internal Cache.

On a P150 I had some other problems with hard drive access and had to
change
LBA settings, don’t remember exactly what at the moment.

We also had some trouble with a Toshiba booting over the network, that
had
to do with it not recognizing the arcnet card as a valid boot card. We
never did get that one resolved, so we always booted locally and then
connected to the network without any problems.

Try the disabling the cache, and if that doesn’t work, maybe someone
else
has some suggestions for your specific computer and/or bios.

ms…

markle <> markle@direct.ca> > wrote in message
news:9cpibt$mlf$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Hope someone can help.

I am trying to install a Quantum Arcnet Adapter onto a Pentium HP
Vectra
XU
6/200 or better.
The OS is Qnx 2.21 and we are running Bailey PCV 4.2D. The computer
boots
up
fine as a single node without the Arcnet card installed. I previously
installed the OS on a 486 66Mhz machine.
When I install the card I get the NODE ##, and then it seems to hang
up,
keyboard stops responding.
I verified the card settings and are correct.
When I select to boot from the network it does access node 2 and
starts
booting, but then reports it can not find certain directories and I
just
get
a login prompt.
I tried the speed_correct and speed_patch utilities and nothing seemed
to
have changed regarding the Arcnet card.
I installed the same card and hard disk into the 486 and all works
fine.
Are the Quantum Arcnet Adapters, (CorNet V2.4), compatible with a
Pentium?
Is there a different setup procedure for Pentiums?

Thanks,
C. Mark Leeworthy
Celgar Pulp Co.

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