Networking/Graphics on Dell Inspiron 8500

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I have a Dell Inspiron 8500 and I’m attempting to get Neutrino 6.2.1b fully
installed and I have run into the following problems:

Background – I have a triple boot Win 2000/Qnx 4.25/Neutrino 6.2.1b system
on this laptop.


1: Broadcomm 44x 10/100 onboard Ethernet.
I found 1 link on the newsgroups about a driver called
bcm4400-2.0.0.tar.gz. The original site looked like broadcomm’s ftp site but
the file wasn’t there - I eventually found it on another site…
The question is – does anyone know if the driver works and if so - is this
the latest version?
(before I waste a bunch of time)

2: Pccard/PCMCIA & 3COM 589 Card
Since the Boadcomm chip may or may not work (in fact under QNX 4.25 it
does not) I have a 3COM Etherlink III (3C589D) PCMCIA card. This card works
under both Windows 2000 and QNX 4.25 installations.The problem is that the
pccard driver does not appear to see the card correctly. Note that this card
works fine (on this machine) under QNX 4.25

Under Neutrino, when I run "devp-pccard -v " with the 3c589 card
installed.
I get the following:

00000000: 0101 0202 0000 ffff 1717 0303 4343 0202 "…CC.
00000010: ffff 2020 0404 0101 0101 8989 0505 2121 “… …!!”
00000020: 0202 0606 0000 1515 3a3a 0404 0101 3333 “…::…33”
00000030: 4343 6f6f 6d6d 2020 4343 6f6f 7272 7070 “CCoomm CCoorrpp”
00000040: 6f6f 7272 6161 7474 6969 6f6f 6e6e 0000 “oorraattiioonn…”
00000050: 3333 4343 3535 3838 3939 4444 0000 5454 “33CC558899DD…TT”
00000060: 5050 2f2f 4242 4e4e 4343 2020 4c4c 4141 “PP//BBNNCC LLAA”
00000070: 4e4e 2020 4343 6161 7272 6464 2020 5656 “NN CCaarrdd VV”
00000080: 6565 7272 2e2e 2020 3232 6161 0000 3030 “eerr… 22aa…00”
00000090: 3030 3030 3030 3030 3232 0000 ffff 1a1a “0000000022…”
000000a0: 0606 0202 0303 0000 0000 0101 0303 1b1b “…”
000000b0: 0f0f c1c1 0101 1d1d 7171 5555 3535 5555 “…qqUU55UU”
000000c0: 5454 e0e0 7272 5d5d 6464 3030 ffff ffff “TT…rr]]dd00…”
000000d0: 1b1b 0707 0303 0101 7171 5555 2626 2626 “…qqUU&&&&”
000000e0: 5454 1919 0303 0000 0000 ffff 1414 0000 “TT…”
000000f0: 1010 0505 8888 ffff 8181 0000 0000 ffff “…”

00000000: 4040 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “@@…”
00000010: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “…”
00000020: 4040 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “@@…”
00000030: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “…”
00000040: 4040 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “@@…”
00000050: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “…”
00000060: 4040 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “@@…”
00000070: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “…”
00000080: 4040 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “@@…”
00000090: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “…”
000000a0: 4040 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “@@…”
000000b0: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “…”
000000c0: 4040 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “@@…”
000000d0: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “…”
000000e0: 4040 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “@@…”
000000f0: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “…”

Notice that it is sort of finding the card - but every byte is doubled!
Changing the width to 8 or 16 has no effect - the output remains the same…
I have also set the other flags to no avail. I can supply the resources that
windows is using if that is helpful. It’s really strange that this works
perfectly under QNX4.25 and has trouble under 6.2

Any Ideas?


3: Graphics Display @ 1280x800 ?

This laptop has a wide format LCD and a ATI Mobility Radeon 9000
chipset. The prefered resolution for the machine is (a non-standard)
1280x800 resolution. Currently I have to run the machine is a vesa mode
1024x768 to get the display to work correctly - but it is both slow and
fuzzy because of the mismatch of the lcd and video resolution. If I try to
run the machine in 1024x768 (or any) Radeon mode, I get a shimmerng “line”
vertically down the screen - this line is actually a dead zone which
occupies 100+ pixels. By this I mean that moving the mouse from left to
right, the mouse enter the line, dissappears, then reappears after you have
moved a while… Windows do the same thing… The display looks crisp but you
can’t use (see actually) anything in this zone… So how can I get the chip
into the non-standard mode… BTW I have tried changing the line in the trap
file - to specify the resolution - the other data vendor and subsystem ID
are correct (as identified under Windows 2000)

This problem (having to use the vesa mode) also exists under QNX 4.25

Any Ideas?

I would be more than happy to supply more infomation on any of these issues
if necessary,
Thanks,
-Bill




devp-pcca

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William M. Derby Jr. <derbyw@direcway.com> wrote:

I have a Dell Inspiron 8500 and I’m attempting to get Neutrino 6.2.1b fully
installed and I have run into the following problems:

Background – I have a triple boot Win 2000/Qnx 4.25/Neutrino 6.2.1b system
on this laptop.


1: Broadcomm 44x 10/100 onboard Ethernet.

http://www.openqnx.com/Article220.html

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There is a small page dedicated to getting QNX Neutrino “Momentics” Working
on Dell I8500 at www.qnxzone.com/~phearbear/i8500.html
I will update it this weekend with information on getting the EIDE driver to
run in DMA mode and how to get the graphic adapter working.

Stay tuned on the site this weekend for the EIDE fix (or search in this
newsgroup, you need to replace some device ID’s in the binary to make it
recognize ICH4)

For the graphic card, you must manually set the resolution to ‘54’. (Click
the ‘advanced’ box and have a shot…)


You need a updated devp-pccard to get the pccard working. I recevied a
updated driver but I still havn’t got a ‘go’ to put it on my page. I’ll mail
the person who gave it to me and see if I’m allowed to post it, or parhaps
he reads here…?



/Johan Björk


“William M. Derby Jr.” <derbyw@direcway.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:bu6eta$2gq$1@inn.qnx.com…

I have a Dell Inspiron 8500 and I’m attempting to get Neutrino 6.2.1b
fully
installed and I have run into the following problems:

Background – I have a triple boot Win 2000/Qnx 4.25/Neutrino 6.2.1b
system
on this laptop.


1: Broadcomm 44x 10/100 onboard Ethernet.
I found 1 link on the newsgroups about a driver called
bcm4400-2.0.0.tar.gz. The original site looked like broadcomm’s ftp site
but
the file wasn’t there - I eventually found it on another site…
The question is – does anyone know if the driver works and if so - is
this
the latest version?
(before I waste a bunch of time)

2: Pccard/PCMCIA & 3COM 589 Card
Since the Boadcomm chip may or may not work (in fact under QNX 4.25 it
does not) I have a 3COM Etherlink III (3C589D) PCMCIA card. This card
works
under both Windows 2000 and QNX 4.25 installations.The problem is that the
pccard driver does not appear to see the card correctly. Note that this
card
works fine (on this machine) under QNX 4.25

Under Neutrino, when I run "devp-pccard -v " with the 3c589 card
installed.
I get the following:

00000000: 0101 0202 0000 ffff 1717 0303 4343 0202 "…CC.
00000010: ffff 2020 0404 0101 0101 8989 0505 2121 “… …!!”
00000020: 0202 0606 0000 1515 3a3a 0404 0101 3333 “…::…33”
00000030: 4343 6f6f 6d6d 2020 4343 6f6f 7272 7070 “CCoomm CCoorrpp”
00000040: 6f6f 7272 6161 7474 6969 6f6f 6e6e 0000 “oorraattiioonn…”
00000050: 3333 4343 3535 3838 3939 4444 0000 5454 “33CC558899DD…TT”
00000060: 5050 2f2f 4242 4e4e 4343 2020 4c4c 4141 “PP//BBNNCC LLAA”
00000070: 4e4e 2020 4343 6161 7272 6464 2020 5656 “NN CCaarrdd VV”
00000080: 6565 7272 2e2e 2020 3232 6161 0000 3030 “eerr… 22aa…00”
00000090: 3030 3030 3030 3030 3232 0000 ffff 1a1a “0000000022…”
000000a0: 0606 0202 0303 0000 0000 0101 0303 1b1b “…”
000000b0: 0f0f c1c1 0101 1d1d 7171 5555 3535 5555 “…qqUU55UU”
000000c0: 5454 e0e0 7272 5d5d 6464 3030 ffff ffff “TT…rr]]dd00…”
000000d0: 1b1b 0707 0303 0101 7171 5555 2626 2626 “…qqUU&&&&”
000000e0: 5454 1919 0303 0000 0000 ffff 1414 0000 “TT…”
000000f0: 1010 0505 8888 ffff 8181 0000 0000 ffff “…”

00000000: 4040 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “@@…”
00000010: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “…”
00000020: 4040 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “@@…”
00000030: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “…”
00000040: 4040 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “@@…”
00000050: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “…”
00000060: 4040 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “@@…”
00000070: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “…”
00000080: 4040 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “@@…”
00000090: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “…”
000000a0: 4040 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “@@…”
000000b0: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “…”
000000c0: 4040 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “@@…”
000000d0: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “…”
000000e0: 4040 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “@@…”
000000f0: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 “…”

Notice that it is sort of finding the card - but every byte is
doubled!
Changing the width to 8 or 16 has no effect - the output remains the
same…
I have also set the other flags to no avail. I can supply the resources
that
windows is using if that is helpful. It’s really strange that this works
perfectly under QNX4.25 and has trouble under 6.2

Any Ideas?


3: Graphics Display @ 1280x800 ?

This laptop has a wide format LCD and a ATI Mobility Radeon 9000
chipset. The prefered resolution for the machine is (a non-standard)
1280x800 resolution. Currently I have to run the machine is a vesa mode
1024x768 to get the display to work correctly - but it is both slow and
fuzzy because of the mismatch of the lcd and video resolution. If I try to
run the machine in 1024x768 (or any) Radeon mode, I get a shimmerng “line”
vertically down the screen - this line is actually a dead zone which
occupies 100+ pixels. By this I mean that moving the mouse from left to
right, the mouse enter the line, dissappears, then reappears after you
have
moved a while… Windows do the same thing… The display looks crisp but
you
can’t use (see actually) anything in this zone… So how can I get the chip
into the non-standard mode… BTW I have tried changing the line in the
trap
file - to specify the resolution - the other data vendor and subsystem ID
are correct (as identified under Windows 2000)

This problem (having to use the vesa mode) also exists under QNX 4.25

Any Ideas?

I would be more than happy to supply more infomation on any of these
issues
if necessary,
Thanks,
-Bill




devp-pcca

4

Thanks Johan,

In particular, thanks for the Broadcom port. I have been struggling with
this laptop since I got it - mostly on the qnx 4.25 side – (the USB based
floppy proved to be a bit of a problem!)

Stay tuned on the site this weekend for the EIDE fix (or search in this
newsgroup, you need to replace some device ID’s in the binary to make it
recognize ICH4)

I take it that this is a varient of the spatch you did for the audio
driver? – I’ll wait and see.
When you say “this newsgroup” which one – qnx.newuser, qdn.public.newuser,
or the ones
on the openqnx site – it’s not really clear where to post these days…

For the graphic card, you must manually set the resolution to ‘54’. (Click
the ‘advanced’ box and have a shot…)

(after shooting several blanks)…
OK – manually set the resolution where — the -g option specifies the
resolution but specifies a x,y,b triplet so the documentation is no help…I
tried -g54 – the machine hung, I tried -g 0x54 - same thing, -g ‘54’ -
ditto. I tried setting the resolution to “-g1280x800x32” with of course no
luck. Set it on the radeon driver? There are no documented mode options for
it… I even tried changing the stuff after the # comment in the trap file.

Please enlighten me…


You need a updated devp-pccard to get the pccard working. I recevied a
updated driver but I still havn’t got a ‘go’ to put it on my page. I’ll
mail
the person who gave it to me and see if I’m allowed to post it, or parhaps
he reads here…?

I’ll try as well…

Thanks for all your help and your site!
-Bill

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“William M. Derby Jr.” <derbyw@direcway.com> wrote in message
news:bu91oq$3np$1@inn.qnx.com…

Thanks Johan,

In particular, thanks for the Broadcom port. I have been struggling with
this laptop since I got it - mostly on the qnx 4.25 side – (the USB based
floppy proved to be a bit of a problem!)

Stay tuned on the site this weekend for the EIDE fix (or search in this
newsgroup, you need to replace some device ID’s in the binary to make it
recognize ICH4)

I take it that this is a varient of the spatch you did for the audio
driver? – I’ll wait and see.
When you say “this newsgroup” which one – qnx.newuser,
qdn.public.newuser,
or the ones
on the openqnx site – it’s not really clear where to post these days…

Yes, it’s a spatch thing here again , don’t remember what newsgroup it was
in, basically it was just Hayes that reported he got dma working by
spatching the device-id’s.

For the graphic card, you must manually set the resolution to ‘54’.
(Click
the ‘advanced’ box and have a shot…)

(after shooting several blanks)…
OK – manually set the resolution where — the -g option specifies the
resolution but specifies a x,y,b triplet so the documentation is no
help…I
tried -g54 – the machine hung, I tried -g 0x54 - same thing, -g ‘54’ -
ditto. I tried setting the resolution to “-g1280x800x32” with of course no
luck. Set it on the radeon driver? There are no documented mode options
for
it… I even tried changing the stuff after the # comment in the trap file.

Please enlighten me…

oh doh!!

Sorry! That’s what I get for writing stuff in a hurry :frowning:
The REFRESHRATE!
I don’t have the documentation here, but I think it’s the -R parameter


You need a updated devp-pccard to get the pccard working. I recevied a
updated driver but I still havn’t got a ‘go’ to put it on my page. I’ll
mail
the person who gave it to me and see if I’m allowed to post it, or
parhaps
he reads here…?

I’ll try as well…

Thanks for all your help and your site!
-Bill

/Johan Björk

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oh doh!!
Sorry! That’s what I get for writing stuff in a hurry > :frowning:
The REFRESHRATE!
I don’t have the documentation here, but I think it’s the -R parameter

Thanks – It works perfectly now – (I manually added the proper mode
(1024x800)
to the trapfile and changed the refresh rate on ALL the radeon modes to
54. – Oh happy day…
Make sure you add the data to the site (if you haven’t already) because I
would never
have guessed it!


Thanks so much again – BTW QNX tech support indicated that devp-pccard
“works fine” in 6.3.0 (which I didn’t know was released yet) and to contact
my rep – which I will do shortly
This sure is different that how it was in the QNX 4.25 days (support wise).

Thanks,
Bill

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Thanks so much again – BTW QNX tech support indicated that devp-pccard
“works fine” in 6.3.0 (which I didn’t know was released yet) and to

It isn’t even in beta yet.
I’m not sure why they keep talking about it as if it is
in these newsgoups…

contact

my rep – which I will do shortly
This sure is different that how it was in the QNX 4.25 days (support wise).

Thanks,
Bill

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I’m told that the beta release “will probably be in February.”

-Bill


<acellarius@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:400C3C22.6C8F0517@yahoo.com…

Thanks so much again – BTW QNX tech support indicated that devp-pccard
“works fine” in 6.3.0 (which I didn’t know was released yet) and to

It isn’t even in beta yet.
I’m not sure why they keep talking about it as if it is
in these newsgoups…

contact
my rep – which I will do shortly
This sure is different that how it was in the QNX 4.25 days (support
wise).

Thanks,
Bill