QNX NC - is QNX ready for Desktop usage ?

Hi,

I decided to download QNX 6.3 evaluation and noticed that the NC
(non-commercial) version is no longer available. I am not sure why QSS made
that decision, but I guess they don´t want QNX Neutrino to appear on Desktop
computers.

I hope that with Harman comes a change in the point of view. If QSS is not
willed to contribute a non-commercial desktop version of their os, they
should let the community do that job. Even the 3rd party software support
lacks with Version 6.3.

QNX is ready for Desktop usage, NOW. There are already many programs that
have been ported to photon (X Window framework) and they are fast and stable
enough.

Perhaps it´s time for a open QNX fork containing all nc components. This
project SHOULD be conrtibuted by QSS. It does not make sense to start such a
project if QSS boycotts it with a licence change in the next release.

I hope to receive both, community´s and QSS´s opinion.

Best Regards
Marcus

“Marcus Moeller” <m.moeller@wrede-online.de> wrote in message
news:cnq4cb$s01$1@inn.qnx.com

Hi,

I decided to download QNX 6.3 evaluation and noticed that the NC
(non-commercial) version is no longer available. I am not sure why QSS
made
that decision, but I guess they don´t want QNX Neutrino to appear on
Desktop
computers.

I don’t beleive that’s the market they are going for, at least it is
definitely very
very very low.

I hope that with Harman comes a change in the point of view. If QSS is not
willed to contribute a non-commercial desktop version of their os, they
should let the community do that job.

Why? QSS is not into providing public services. They are already real
community efforts and one of them is called LINUX. Why do you feel QSS has
the obligation to take care of the “non-commercial” market.

IMO the non-commercial market is real PITA, they are always begging and
complaining, I need this, I need that, why arent’ you doing this instead,
etc? At this time I beleive QSS has much better thing to do.

The QNX community has always been patheticly small. On OpenQNX the highest
number of hit a post had was 3000 (that I could find) most avering into the
200. OpenQNX has about 5 real active posters. QNXZone has about 2 (haven’t
seen a blog from jvl for a while).

The community stuff is actually supply with software from about 10 people
max.

Don’t get me wrong, I wish their was a bigger community, I wish QSS would
devote more resource to it. That being said I thing they have much more
important things do to in the short term.

To me QSS has always show a certain lack of commitment or proper resource
handling. It’s like one guy (or girl) has this great idea and push it
forward (the QNX4 demo disk, the 3rd party CD, the non-commercial license,
public repositary, the developper community, the technical article, etc).
Then for some reason these projects are dropped. The person in charge moves
or is being moved to another project and the previous project fanished into
thin air. No follow through. I would guess biggest reason for this is lack
of resource (money, people) yes the Harman deal could help fix that, but
servicing the non-commerical community should not be priority.


QNX is ready for Desktop usage, NOW.

I do not agree.

There are already many programs that
have been ported to photon (X Window framework) and they are fast and
stable
enough.

Does the world really need another desktop OS? If so is QSS the company to
do it?

Perhaps it´s time for a open QNX fork containing all nc components.

This project SHOULD be conrtibuted by QSS.

Why, what’s your rational being this?

It does not make sense to start such a
project if QSS boycotts it with a licence change in the next release.

I hope to receive both, community´s and QSS´s opinion.


Best Regards
Marcus

See my point, 2 days now and not a comment…

“Marcus Moeller” <m.moeller@wrede-online.de> wrote in message
news:cnq4cb$s01$1@inn.qnx.com

Hi,

I decided to download QNX 6.3 evaluation and noticed that the NC
(non-commercial) version is no longer available. I am not sure why QSS
made
that decision, but I guess they don´t want QNX Neutrino to appear on
Desktop
computers.

Check the EULA. The 30 day evaluation period applies to commercial
evaluation. Continued use under non-commercial terms of the EULA
is allowed at the end of the 30 day period.

I hope that with Harman comes a change in the point of view. If QSS is not
willed to contribute a non-commercial desktop version of their os, they
should let the community do that job. Even the 3rd party software support
lacks with Version 6.3.

QNX is ready for Desktop usage, NOW. There are already many programs that
have been ported to photon (X Window framework) and they are fast and
stable
enough.

Perhaps it´s time for a open QNX fork containing all nc components. This
project SHOULD be conrtibuted by QSS. It does not make sense to start such
a
project if QSS boycotts it with a licence change in the next release.

I hope to receive both, community´s and QSS´s opinion.

I believe the point is moot. The fact that we have opted to streamline
the means to deliver non-commercial licensed version doesn’t alter the fact
that it remains
available to a community under the same terms as before.

Best Regards
Marcus