Cross compiling from Win32?

Hi Guys,

A long time ago when QNX RTP was still Neutrino, there were tools
available to do cross compiling from the Win32 platform. Now it looks
like everything compiles under the OS itself, but I would really like to
be able to cross compile from my Windows 2000 box. I do this already
with the Watcom 10.6 compiler and use remote TCP/IP debugging.

So can anyone tell me if this is possible with QNX 6, and if so how do I
go about doing it and where do I download the tools from?

Thanks!


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Order the QNX Windows SDK. It is a complete cross-development system.
Same for Solaris.

chris


Kendall Bennett <KendallB@scitechsoft.com> wrote:

Hi Guys,

A long time ago when QNX RTP was still Neutrino, there were tools
available to do cross compiling from the Win32 platform. Now it looks
like everything compiles under the OS itself, but I would really like to
be able to cross compile from my Windows 2000 box. I do this already
with the Watcom 10.6 compiler and use remote TCP/IP debugging.

So can anyone tell me if this is possible with QNX 6, and if so how do I
go about doing it and where do I download the tools from?

Thanks!


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Chris McKillop <cdm@qnx.com> “The faster I go, the behinder I get.”
Software Engineer, QSSL – Lewis Carroll –
http://qnx.wox.org/

In article <a5jaki$rmn$1@nntp.qnx.com>, cdm@qnx.com says…

Order the QNX Windows SDK. It is a complete cross-development system.
Same for Solaris.

Awesome. I have a copy showing up tomorrow so that will be great.

BTW, does anyone still use the MetroWerks tools on QNX 6? What about
Watcom? Would people be interested in using the Watcom compiler on QNX
6? I am the lead developer on the Open Watcom project so we would like
to support QNX6 if we can down the track :wink:

Regards,


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Kendall Bennett wrote:

BTW, does anyone still use the MetroWerks tools on QNX 6? What about
Watcom? Would people be interested in using the Watcom compiler on QNX
6? I am the lead developer on the Open Watcom project so we would like
to support QNX6 if we can down the track > :wink:

Uhhh… yes…

I think there are quite a few people who would like to see Watcom C for
QNX6, myself included. Also are there any efforts in the Open Watcom
project to come closer to ISO standard C++ ?

ooohhhh Yes!!!

I do agree, and I’m sure I’m not alone!

We are longing for Watcom compiler.

Please do go for that support!

Thanks,

Didier.
“Rennie Allen” <rallen@csical.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
3C7D5F19.8010808@csical.com

Kendall Bennett wrote:

BTW, does anyone still use the MetroWerks tools on QNX 6? What about
Watcom? Would people be interested in using the Watcom compiler on QNX
6? I am the lead developer on the Open Watcom project so we would like
to support QNX6 if we can down the track > :wink:


Uhhh… yes…

I think there are quite a few people who would like to see Watcom C for
QNX6, myself included. Also are there any efforts in the Open Watcom
project to come closer to ISO standard C++ ?

Kendall,

Like you we use Watcom 10.6 on Windows to cross compile for QNX4. There are
some many more tools available for the Windows platform that it just makes
good sense for us. We love QNX but lets face it they can’t compete tool wise
(yet).

We are now just starting down the QNX6 path and we wanted to maintain our
Windows development host so we purchased the QNX6 SDK for Windows. But
developing on Windows for so long meant we had come accustomed to IDEs and
GUIs wrappers for most tools. Since the QNX6 SDK is all command line tools
and doesn’t include an IDE we decided to purchase Metrowerks. The only
reason we purchased Metrowerks was to get the IDE. Quite a price tag for an
IDE. I know real programmers don’t use IDEs - we have become soft, look away
I am ashamed. We could have tried integrate the command line tools with
other IDEs but that would have taken time away from our real objective
(moving to QNX6). Since our development team was familiar with the Watcom
IDE I was going to try to configure it to use the backend tools provided by
the QNX6 SDK but then in the end we decided to take what is provided now and
maybe shop for something better latter.

I would love to see OpenWatcom support for both QNX4 and QNX6 but as Rennie
often points out standards are always a concern. QNX4 has no other choice
but Watcom so they will take what they can get. QNX6 is a different story,
if OpenWatcom does match or surpass GCC with respect to standards then it
may not get much use even if it was supported on QNX6.

I continue to watch the OpenWatcom progress and its been slow but maybe once
its open sourced there will be a flurry of activity. For everyone’s benefit
I hope it does well.




“Kendall Bennett” <KendallB@scitechsoft.com> wrote in message
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In article <a5jaki$rmn$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > cdm@qnx.com > says…

Order the QNX Windows SDK. It is a complete cross-development system.
Same for Solaris.

Awesome. I have a copy showing up tomorrow so that will be great.

BTW, does anyone still use the MetroWerks tools on QNX 6? What about
Watcom? Would people be interested in using the Watcom compiler on QNX
6? I am the lead developer on the Open Watcom project so we would like
to support QNX6 if we can down the track > :wink:

Regards,


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“Kendall Bennett” <KendallB@scitechsoft.com> wrote in message
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In article <a5jaki$rmn$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > cdm@qnx.com > says…

Order the QNX Windows SDK. It is a complete cross-development system.
Same for Solaris.

Awesome. I have a copy showing up tomorrow so that will be great.

BTW, does anyone still use the MetroWerks tools on QNX 6? What about
Watcom? Would people be interested in using the Watcom compiler on QNX
6? I am the lead developer on the Open Watcom project so we would like
to support QNX6 if we can down the track > :wink:

I think you just made a bunch of old QNX 4 developers roll around on the
floor in religious ecstacy…

:wink:

Kris

Regards,


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In article <3C7D5F19.8010808@csical.com>, rallen@csical.com says…

Kendall Bennett wrote:

BTW, does anyone still use the MetroWerks tools on QNX 6? What about
Watcom? Would people be interested in using the Watcom compiler on QNX
6? I am the lead developer on the Open Watcom project so we would like
to support QNX6 if we can down the track > :wink:

Uhhh… yes…

Great to know!

I think there are quite a few people who would like to see Watcom C for
QNX6, myself included. Also are there any efforts in the Open Watcom
project to come closer to ISO standard C++ ?

Immediately, no. That is primarily because our efforts right now are
focused exclusively on getting the 11.0c binary patch completed (ie:
fixing some known bugs) and then getting Open Source version released.
Once that is done there are a number of people not presently on the core
team who have expressed interest in moving the Open Watcom compiler
towards the latest ISO C++ standards (as well as moving the C compiler
to C99 compliance).

BTW, it is possible to set up the 11.0c binary patch to be used for QNX4
development. It is a little involved because you need to use the 10.6
runtime libraries and headers, but it can be done. I don’t know how
stable it is though so I would recommend it until a few people get to
test it out some more :wink:


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In article <a5knvp$cl1$1@inn.qnx.com>, didier.harrang@bcisa.com says…

ooohhhh Yes!!!

I do agree, and I’m sure I’m not alone!

We are longing for Watcom compiler.

Please do go for that support!

Great! What I would suggest is two things:

  1. Hang out in the OpenWatcom newsgroups (you can find more information
    on the Open Watcom site at: http://www.openwatcom.org).

  2. Let your interest in this be known to QSSL themselves. In order to
    make this happen we will need some kind of cooperation between the Open
    Watcom team and QSSL as we will need to integrate into the QNX runtime
    libraries they use for QNX6.

BTW, if there was an Open Watcom compiler that supported QNX6, would you
guys be willing to pay for it? One reason I believe that QSSL to date
has shown little interest in this is because they feel it wouldn’t bring
them any revenues. However I have been trying to convince them that they
would be able to sell and support the Open Watcom compilers rather than
simply making them freely available (especially if for QNX6 you need to
use the Dinkum C/C++ runtime libraries instead of the regular Watcom
runtime libraries).

Regards,


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Chris McKillop <cdm@qnx.com> wrote:

Order the QNX Windows SDK. It is a complete cross-development system.
Same for Solaris.

Just to prevent any confusion…

QNX Windows is a GUI that runs under QNX 4.x

I think Chris meant to say “The QNX6 SDK for Windows”.
(As in Microsoft Windows).

Dave

In article <a5l8gp$p3i$1@inn.qnx.com>, brownr@aecl.ca says…

Like you we use Watcom 10.6 on Windows to cross compile for QNX4. There are
some many more tools available for the Windows platform that it just makes
good sense for us. We love QNX but lets face it they can’t compete tool wise
(yet).

Yep, most definately. That is why I originally set up my cross
compilation environment because I was so unproductive trying to edit,
compile and debug on my QNX4 box directly. Once I got myself set up with
a Windows cross compiler (very easy once you know how!) I was happily
editing in my favorite editor (SlickEdit), compiling in the same editor
and starting the TCP/IP remote debugger from the same editor. SlickEdit
has become my IDE of choice and allows me to compile with any compiler
all within the same IDE. ie: I can switch between Borland, Microsoft,
Watcom, GCC and other compilers and compile for DOS, OS/2, Windows,
Linux and QNX all from the same environment!

Perhaps one of these days I should post my macro package and
instructions on how to set this up, because once you have SlickEdit set
up this way it is very powerful (note that it does require a good
external command line make package such as our dmake to make it work
well).

We are now just starting down the QNX6 path and we wanted to maintain our
Windows development host so we purchased the QNX6 SDK for Windows. But
developing on Windows for so long meant we had come accustomed to IDEs and
GUIs wrappers for most tools. Since the QNX6 SDK is all command line tools
and doesn’t include an IDE we decided to purchase Metrowerks. The only
reason we purchased Metrowerks was to get the IDE. Quite a price tag for an
IDE.

So the Metrowerks IDE is really just an IDE that allows you to compile
QNX6 binaries using GCC, right? Is there a special IDE you need to buy
to get this (from QSSL?) or do you simply buy the commercial Metrowerks
IDE from them and then stuff in the Win32 SDK tools from QNX?

I know real programmers don’t use IDEs - we have become soft, look away
I am ashamed.

Actually I am a big fan of IDE’s because I do believe the increase
productivity. I still do all my compiling from the command line and
maintain my makefiles manually, but I do all my editing and compiling
from SlickEdit. You simply can’t beat a good editor/IDE that can do
source file tagging and cross referencing as well as giving you the
ability to compile within an IDE and instantly get to errors output from
the compiler. Besides, to me a good editor environment like SlickEdit
(and Emacs!!) is really a compiler independant IDE :wink:

I would love to see OpenWatcom support for both QNX4 and QNX6 but as Rennie
often points out standards are always a concern. QNX4 has no other choice
but Watcom so they will take what they can get. QNX6 is a different story,
if OpenWatcom does match or surpass GCC with respect to standards then it
may not get much use even if it was supported on QNX6.

Standards are definately a concern for all of us who use Watcom on a
regular basis, and I do believe that once we finally get the source code
released there will be a lot of people willing to put in the effort to
make Open Watcom better (as well as complete the ports to MIPS and
PowerPC processors :wink:.

Regards,


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Kendall Bennett wrote:

BTW, if there was an Open Watcom compiler that supported QNX6, would you
guys be willing to pay for it? One reason I believe that QSSL to date
has shown little interest in this is because they feel it wouldn’t bring
them any revenues. However I have been trying to convince them that they
would be able to sell and support the Open Watcom compilers rather than
simply making them freely available (especially if for QNX6 you need to
use the Dinkum C/C++ runtime libraries instead of the regular Watcom
runtime libraries).

I would be willing to pay for a compiler, as long as it was better than
what was freely available. A compiler is a very important tool, I think
anyone would pay for a better quality tool (the primary differentiators
being standards compliance, compilation speed, and executable size and
speed).

How much would I pay ? Certainly $200.00 USD, certainly not $2000.00 USD
(at that price I will suffer with gcc). In between these points the sale
would obviously be easier at the lower end, approaching very difficult
at the upper end). Whether this fits any business plan or not I have no
idea.

There was number of discussions on the issue. Lot of people were
interested in better compiler than GCC, but interest does not always
generate revenues. People who want to spend money on tools usually
expect something more than just bare command line tools, so they don’t
buy. And people who don’t mind command line tools usually don’t have
money to waste on IDE :wink:

That said, I have reasons to believe situation with development tools on
QNX is going to change radically quite soon, in terms of IDE and
GUI-fication in general. Quality of compiler per say however will
probably remain an issue for a while. So, here is your opportunity -
make a high quality command line compiler and it might just become
popular choice for use with coming IDE tools, if it can be integrated
nicely (including debugger). You might want to start learing how to
write Eclipse plugins :slight_smile:

  • igor

Kendall Bennett wrote:

In article <a5jaki$rmn$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > cdm@qnx.com > says…

Order the QNX Windows SDK. It is a complete cross-development system.
Same for Solaris.

Awesome. I have a copy showing up tomorrow so that will be great.

BTW, does anyone still use the MetroWerks tools on QNX 6? What about
Watcom? Would people be interested in using the Watcom compiler on QNX
6? I am the lead developer on the Open Watcom project so we would like
to support QNX6 if we can down the track > :wink:

Regards,


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Kendall Bennett wrote:

So the Metrowerks IDE is really just an IDE that allows you to compile
QNX6 binaries using GCC, right? Is there a special IDE you need to buy
to get this (from QSSL?) or do you simply buy the commercial Metrowerks
IDE from them and then stuff in the Win32 SDK tools from QNX?

Metrowerks has formally released and ship official ‘QNX version’ which
is same IDE bundled with QNX SDK tools. You can see it on their web
site, there’s even a picture of box which has ‘for QNX’ on it.

Their generic IDE can also be configured to build for QNX, as long as
you have all needed command-line tools. I’ve done this with their
Solaris/SPARC IDE. The only problem was with ‘ar’ as far as I remember
(there was no way to tell IDE how to call it properly to build static
libs).

  • igor

Yes, definitely! Watcom on QNX4 is awesome…

Previously, Kendall Bennett wrote in qdn.public.qnxrtp.devtools:

In article <a5jaki$rmn$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > cdm@qnx.com > says…

Order the QNX Windows SDK. It is a complete cross-development system.
Same for Solaris.

Awesome. I have a copy showing up tomorrow so that will be great.

BTW, does anyone still use the MetroWerks tools on QNX 6? What about
Watcom? Would people be interested in using the Watcom compiler on QNX
6? I am the lead developer on the Open Watcom project so we would like
to support QNX6 if we can down the track > :wink:

Regards,


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Hey, I’m not that old…

Previously, Kris Warkentin wrote in qdn.public.qnxrtp.devtools:

“Kendall Bennett” <> KendallB@scitechsoft.com> > wrote in message
news:> MPG.16e6fba263b9fcd2989681@inn.qnx.com> …
In article <a5jaki$rmn$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > cdm@qnx.com > says…

Order the QNX Windows SDK. It is a complete cross-development system.
Same for Solaris.

Awesome. I have a copy showing up tomorrow so that will be great.

BTW, does anyone still use the MetroWerks tools on QNX 6? What about
Watcom? Would people be interested in using the Watcom compiler on QNX
6? I am the lead developer on the Open Watcom project so we would like
to support QNX6 if we can down the track > :wink:

I think you just made a bunch of old QNX 4 developers roll around on the
floor in religious ecstacy…

:wink:

Kris


Regards,


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Yes I did Dave. And to think I even wrote QNXWindows code under QNX4 before
Photon was released. I didn’t even notice when I typed that in that it
would cause confusion, thanks! :wink:

chris


David Donohoe <ddonohoe@qnx.com> wrote:

Chris McKillop <> cdm@qnx.com> > wrote:

Order the QNX Windows SDK. It is a complete cross-development system.
Same for Solaris.

Just to prevent any confusion…

QNX Windows is a GUI that runs under QNX 4.x

I think Chris meant to say “The QNX6 SDK for Windows”.
(As in Microsoft Windows).

Dave


Chris McKillop <cdm@qnx.com> “The faster I go, the behinder I get.”
Software Engineer, QSSL – Lewis Carroll –
http://qnx.wox.org/

Absolutely !


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“Kendall Bennett” <KendallB@scitechsoft.com> wrote in message
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In article <a5jaki$rmn$> 1@nntp.qnx.com> >, > cdm@qnx.com > says…

Order the QNX Windows SDK. It is a complete cross-development system.
Same for Solaris.

Awesome. I have a copy showing up tomorrow so that will be great.

BTW, does anyone still use the MetroWerks tools on QNX 6? What about
Watcom? Would people be interested in using the Watcom compiler on QNX
6? I am the lead developer on the Open Watcom project so we would like
to support QNX6 if we can down the track > :wink:

Regards,


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QSSL should give any and all possible support for this project, including
financial support if necessary.

On the other hand, I would not mind in the slightest paying a reasonable
price to QSSL or whoever for a Watcom C/C++ solution for RTP.

QSSL, do not underestimate how ineffecient GNU is. Go for it!


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“Kendall Bennett” <KendallB@scitechsoft.com> wrote in message
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In article <a5knvp$cl1$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, > didier.harrang@bcisa.com > says…

ooohhhh Yes!!!

I do agree, and I’m sure I’m not alone!

We are longing for Watcom compiler.

Please do go for that support!

Great! What I would suggest is two things:

  1. Hang out in the OpenWatcom newsgroups (you can find more information
    on the Open Watcom site at: > http://www.openwatcom.org> ).

  2. Let your interest in this be known to QSSL themselves. In order to
    make this happen we will need some kind of cooperation between the Open
    Watcom team and QSSL as we will need to integrate into the QNX runtime
    libraries they use for QNX6.

BTW, if there was an Open Watcom compiler that supported QNX6, would you
guys be willing to pay for it? One reason I believe that QSSL to date
has shown little interest in this is because they feel it wouldn’t bring
them any revenues. However I have been trying to convince them that they
would be able to sell and support the Open Watcom compilers rather than
simply making them freely available (especially if for QNX6 you need to
use the Dinkum C/C++ runtime libraries instead of the regular Watcom
runtime libraries).

Regards,


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If I recall, Watcom C was $500 USD and C++ was another $500 USD list price.

I would be very willing to pay $1000 USD for a C++ compiler as good as the
old Watcom that also supported all the latest C++ goodies.


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Kendall Bennett wrote:


BTW, if there was an Open Watcom compiler that supported QNX6, would you
guys be willing to pay for it? One reason I believe that QSSL to date
has shown little interest in this is because they feel it wouldn’t bring
them any revenues. However I have been trying to convince them that they
would be able to sell and support the Open Watcom compilers rather than
simply making them freely available (especially if for QNX6 you need to
use the Dinkum C/C++ runtime libraries instead of the regular Watcom
runtime libraries).

I would be willing to pay for a compiler, as long as it was better than
what was freely available. A compiler is a very important tool, I think
anyone would pay for a better quality tool (the primary differentiators
being standards compliance, compilation speed, and executable size and
speed).

How much would I pay ? Certainly $200.00 USD, certainly not $2000.00 USD
(at that price I will suffer with gcc). In between these points the sale
would obviously be easier at the lower end, approaching very difficult
at the upper end). Whether this fits any business plan or not I have no
idea.