Employment Prospects

I’m just curious to get a general consensious. Where are employment
prospects the best, The US, Canada, UK or France.

Things are still pretty crappy here in the good old US of A. I was
hoping that someone somewhere had better bews to report.

In article <b1udh7$q9s$1@inn.qnx.com>, qtps@earthlink.net says…

I’m just curious to get a general consensious. Where are employment
prospects the best, The US, Canada, UK or France.
Not in Canada > :astonished:> (

Cheers,
Edaurd.

“Bill Caroselli” <qtps@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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I’m just curious to get a general consensious. Where are employment
prospects the best, The US, Canada, UK or France.

If you are into database, JAVA, web stuff I see a LOTS of posting for that
kind of work were I’m at. As for real-time/embedded/QNX work it ain’t
looking better then in the US.

Things are still pretty crappy here in the good old US of A. I was
hoping that someone somewhere had better bews to report.

In article <MPG.18ac965b845475d0989683@inn.qnx.com>, ed1k@humber.bay
says…

In article <b1udh7$q9s$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, > qtps@earthlink.net > says…
I’m just curious to get a general consensious. Where are employment
prospects the best, The US, Canada, UK or France.
Not in Canada > :astonished:> (
Cheers,
Edaurd.

Well it IS terrible in Canada, but still, maybe it is still better in

Canada than most other places! :0
(What a sorry state of affairs!)


Stephen Munnings
Developer
Corman Technologies Inc.

“Bill Caroselli” <qtps@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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I’m just curious to get a general consensious. Where are employment
prospects the best, The US, Canada, UK or France.

Things are still pretty crappy here in the good old US of A. I was
hoping that someone somewhere had better bews to report.

It is perfect in Russia :slight_smile:

// wbr

“Stephen Munnings” <steve@cormantech.com> wrote in message
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In article <> MPG.18ac965b845475d0989683@inn.qnx.com> >, > ed1k@humber.bay
says…
In article <b1udh7$q9s$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, > qtps@earthlink.net > says…
I’m just curious to get a general consensious. Where are employment
prospects the best, The US, Canada, UK or France.
Not in Canada > :astonished:> (
Cheers,
Edaurd.

Well it IS terrible in Canada, but still, maybe it is still better in
Canada than most other places! :0
(What a sorry state of affairs!)

A nice war will fix all of these problems. People will start making babies
(apparently that always happens during war time) generating new potentiel
customer, so futur will look good and more virtual money will be created
giving the illusion that the population is richer.

But I’m not worry, worst thing that can happen is I will be working for
free, which may not be a bad thing after all. Imagine all that could be
acheive if nobody was doing thing for money, oh well probably nothing…


Stephen Munnings
Developer
Corman Technologies Inc.

Hi Mario,
Strange end of comment from you!
I hope you are wrong, and looking at the Linux community, I think it’s
not YET the case!

cheers
Alain.

Mario Charest a écrit:

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In article <> MPG.18ac965b845475d0989683@inn.qnx.com> >, > ed1k@humber.bay
says…


In article <b1udh7$q9s$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, > qtps@earthlink.net > says…


I’m just curious to get a general consensious. Where are employment
prospects the best, The US, Canada, UK or France.


Not in Canada > :astonished:> (
Cheers,
Edaurd.



Well it IS terrible in Canada, but still, maybe it is still better in
Canada than most other places! :0
(What a sorry state of affairs!)



A nice war will fix all of these problems. People will start making babies
(apparently that always happens during war time) generating new potentiel
customer, so futur will look good and more virtual money will be created
giving the illusion that the population is richer.

But I’m not worry, worst thing that can happen is I will be working for
free, which may not be a bad thing after all. Imagine all that could be
acheive if nobody was doing thing for money, oh well probably nothing…


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Stephen Munnings
Developer
Corman Technologies Inc.


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says…
In article <b1udh7$q9s$> 1@inn.qnx.com> >, > qtps@earthlink.net > says…
I’m just curious to get a general consensious. Where are employment
prospects the best, The US, Canada, UK or France.

snip

But I’m not worry, worst thing that can happen is I will be working for
free, which may not be a bad thing after all. Imagine all that could be
acheive if nobody was doing thing for money, oh well probably nothing…

snip

Mario
A moneyless economy sounds good, but, I would guess that first we must
convince the people who produce the food.

Pat

Ian Zagorskih <ianzag@megasignal.com> wrote:

“Bill Caroselli” <> qtps@earthlink.net> > wrote in message
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I’m just curious to get a general consensious. Where are employment
prospects the best, The US, Canada, UK or France.

Things are still pretty crappy here in the good old US of A. I was
hoping that someone somewhere had better bews to report.

It is perfect in Russia > :slight_smile:

Sign me up!

How long can it take to learn Russian? I taught myself “survival”
spanish in about 6 weeks. And that was without any help.

So what are the pros and cons of an American working in Russia?

I just want an opportunity to push the limits of my abilities
programming in a state of the art (or nearly so) environment.

Bill Caroselli wrote:

Ian Zagorskih <> ianzag@megasignal.com> > wrote:


“Bill Caroselli” <> qtps@earthlink.net> > wrote in message
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I’m just curious to get a general consensious. Where are employment
prospects the best, The US, Canada, UK or France.

Things are still pretty crappy here in the good old US of A. I was
hoping that someone somewhere had better bews to report.


It is perfect in Russia > :slight_smile:


Sign me up!

Welcome to Siberia :slight_smile:

How long can it take to learn Russian? I taught myself “survival”
spanish in about 6 weeks. And that was without any help.

You can learn survival russian (that is, say enough to be understood,
albeit sounding like an imbecil) in couple months. Russian phonems have
a lot more redundancy in them (average word length is 7) so even if you
mess up pronounciation badly you often can be understood anyway (much
more so than english). Reading is not as hard as most westerners think -
cyrillic shares a lot with latin (too bad some letters are the same but
mean different sounds :slight_smile:

Mastering proper grammar is hard and so is writing.

So what are the pros and cons of an American working in Russia?

If you can find a proper position (that is, paying wages $2000+ a month
for Moscow, can settle for less elsewhere), it is mostly pros. In fact
you might love it so much you hardly will want to return. You can drink
beer or stuff like gin-tonic on the streets. No dress code except
official places. Every second car is a potential taxi (hitch-hiking is a
norm). You can swim on a beach at night and not get kicked out by
police. Swim nude if you like and not get arrested. You can go camping
and not have a forrest service trooper on your back all the time. If you
go down a river, you can get on the shore and camp anywhere you like.
When it is a holiday, people actually feel like a holiday (as opposed to
shopping frenzy), especially the New Year. Fireworks are welcome. You
can drink starting from 18 and go to a night-club starting from 16.
Girls look nice. They wear skirts, lingerie and heels, not pants and
gymshoes. They like being feminine, not athletic and strong. Men are
encouraged to be masculine, not ‘sensitive’ and ‘understanding’. There
is no such thing as ‘sexual harrasment’. Restaurants and entertainment
establishments are open all night. There’s almost no cable TV except
large cities and only 3 national broadcast channels (yes, that is GOOD
in my book).

Basically, life is a lot less regulated and is more enjoyable if you got
it right. Trouble is, it is hard to find a proper position (although
there bound to be some US companies operating there who might need
americans for whatever reasons).

One thing so - avoid interactions with the government/bureucracy at all
cost. Life suddenly becomes very hard as soon as you do. And don’t ever
hit (or get hit) by expensive cars :wink:

I just want an opportunity to push the limits of my abilities
programming in a state of the art (or nearly so) environment.

State of the art stuff in Russia is only done by military or for
military. So you’re out of the game, unless you want a one way ticket.

– igor

snip


One thing so - avoid interactions with the government/bureucracy at all
cost. Life suddenly becomes very hard as soon as you do. And don’t ever
hit (or get hit) by expensive cars > :wink:

Is that why you came to the US?

I just want an opportunity to push the limits of my abilities
programming in a state of the art (or nearly so) environment.

State of the art stuff in Russia is only done by military or for
military. So you’re out of the game, unless you want a one way ticket.

– igor

Mario
A moneyless economy sounds good, but, I would guess that first we must
convince the people who produce the food.

and clothing -)


Pat

“Alain Bonnefoy” <> alain.bonnefoy@icbt.com> > wrote in message
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Hi Mario,

Hello,

Strange end of comment from you!

I hope you are wrong, and looking at the Linux community, I think it’s not
YET the case!

Can you clarify I’m not sure I understand your comment.

Igor Kovalenko <kovalenko@attbi.com> wrote:

Welcome to Siberia > :slight_smile:

Thank you Igor!
Is the climate as bad as I’ve heard?

So what are the pros and cons of an American working in Russia?

If you can find a proper position (that is, paying wages $2000+ a month
for Moscow, can settle for less elsewhere), it is mostly pros. In fact

I don’t know the rate of exchange or cost of living. Would $2000/mo
provide a confortable living?

you might love it so much you hardly will want to return. You can drink
beer or stuff like gin-tonic on the streets. No dress code except
official places. Every second car is a potential taxi (hitch-hiking is a
norm). You can swim on a beach at night and not get kicked out by
police. Swim nude if you like and not get arrested. You can go camping
and not have a forrest service trooper on your back all the time. If you
go down a river, you can get on the shore and camp anywhere you like.
When it is a holiday, people actually feel like a holiday (as opposed to
shopping frenzy), especially the New Year. Fireworks are welcome. You
can drink starting from 18 and go to a night-club starting from 16.
Girls look nice. They wear skirts, lingerie and heels, not pants and
gymshoes. They like being feminine, not athletic and strong. Men are
encouraged to be masculine, not ‘sensitive’ and ‘understanding’. There
is no such thing as ‘sexual harrasment’. Restaurants and entertainment
establishments are open all night. There’s almost no cable TV except
large cities and only 3 national broadcast channels (yes, that is GOOD
in my book).

OK. Swimming nude is Cool. But I don’t think I’d move to the other
side of the globe for that. (Hell, I do that here now.) I actually
like the idea of girls that look like girls (dresses/skirts) instead of
jeans or pants.

Where ever I go, I’ll be bringing my own girl. (She’s a sure thing and
it’s cheaper to keep her. Besides, I actually love her.) Is it hard to
get a spouce into the country?


Basically, life is a lot less regulated and is more enjoyable if you got
it right. Trouble is, it is hard to find a proper position (although
there bound to be some US companies operating there who might need
americans for whatever reasons).

Can you name any US companies that use QNX?

Are there any internet Job board over there in English?


Bill Caroselli – Q-TPS Consulting
1-(626) 824-7983
qtps@earthlink.net

In article <b298ur$3h4$1@inn.qnx.com>, qtps@earthlink.net says…

Igor Kovalenko <> kovalenko@attbi.com> > wrote:

Welcome to Siberia > :slight_smile:

Thank you Igor!
Is the climate as bad as I’ve heard?

Hey, that’s nice climate :slight_smile:

So what are the pros and cons of an American working in Russia?

If you can find a proper position (that is, paying wages $2000+ a month
for Moscow, can settle for less elsewhere), it is mostly pros. In fact

I don’t know the rate of exchange or cost of living. Would $2000/mo
provide a confortable living?

Sure. But I don’t know where software developer could be such paid. I’d sent my resume too :slight_smile: Hmm…
Or proper position means some kind of… for example, killer, ponce etc.? I know some people from
USA and UK are working in Ukraine for american companies, not in computer business, but in the
summer camps in the Crimea. They have not been paid such good as $2000+ a month, but they were very
happy about that job :slight_smile:

Cheers,
Eduard.

In article <3E48382C.6030608@attbi.com>, kovalenko@attbi.com says…

Mario Charest wrote:
snip

One thing so - avoid interactions with the government/bureucracy at all
cost. Life suddenly becomes very hard as soon as you do. And don’t ever
hit (or get hit) by expensive cars > :wink:


Is that why you came to the US?


Hehe, no. Russia has two major problems - the roads and the fools
(classical russian saying). When all the fools will be sent to build the
roads, I’ll go back > :wink:

:astonished:) I won’t.

Bill Caroselli wrote:

Igor Kovalenko <> kovalenko@attbi.com> > wrote:


Welcome to Siberia > :slight_smile:


Thank you Igor!
Is the climate as bad as I’ve heard?

Siberia is very big. Southern parts of it border China and somehow
nobody thinks of ‘cold’ when someone says ‘China’ :wink: So yes, climate is
bad in northern Siberia, but not in the south. And most people live in
the south, just like Canada.

If you’re looking for a US employers, you’re probably looking at Moscow
anyway.

So what are the pros and cons of an American working in Russia?


If you can find a proper position (that is, paying wages $2000+ a month
for Moscow, can settle for less elsewhere), it is mostly pros. In fact


I don’t know the rate of exchange or cost of living. Would $2000/mo
provide a confortable living?

Yes.

OK. Swimming nude is Cool. But I don’t think I’d move to the other
side of the globe for that. (Hell, I do that here now.)

Shhh… Someone might report you :wink:

I actually
like the idea of girls that look like girls (dresses/skirts) instead of
jeans or pants.

Where ever I go, I’ll be bringing my own girl. (She’s a sure thing and
it’s cheaper to keep her. Besides, I actually love her.) Is it hard to
get a spouce into the country?

I don’t know, never tried to obtain russian visa :wink:
My guess would be that if you can get yourself in, legal spouce should
not be a problem.

Basically, life is a lot less regulated and is more enjoyable if you got
it right. Trouble is, it is hard to find a proper position (although
there bound to be some US companies operating there who might need
americans for whatever reasons).


Can you name any US companies that use QNX?

It is hard to tell what their russian branches use. For example MOT has
some kind of software development center there, but I have no idea what
they use.

Are there any internet Job board over there in English?

I don’t know. You surely would be an odd duck looking for that - most
technical people out there look the other way around. If you wanna
understand why, take a look at demography of students in US - MBA
classes would be populated almost entirely by americans, while technical
ones would be full of immigrants. Americans don’t like technical
positions anymore. Not in software engineering anyway, courtesy of SEI.
In foreign branches it the same story - the only americans out there
would be the [bigger] managers, with technical staff filled by cheaper
locals :wink:

– igor

Mario Charest wrote:

snip

One thing so - avoid interactions with the government/bureucracy at all
cost. Life suddenly becomes very hard as soon as you do. And don’t ever
hit (or get hit) by expensive cars > :wink:


Is that why you came to the US?

Hehe, no. Russia has two major problems - the roads and the fools
(classical russian saying). When all the fools will be sent to build the
roads, I’ll go back :wink:

“Bill Caroselli” <qtps@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Igor Kovalenko <> kovalenko@attbi.com> > wrote:

Welcome to Siberia > :slight_smile:

Thank you Igor!
Is the climate as bad as I’ve heard?

Sure ! Outside arm is -25C, no wind and intensive shining :slight_smile:

So what are the pros and cons of an American working in Russia?

If you can find a proper position (that is, paying wages $2000+ a month
for Moscow, can settle for less elsewhere), it is mostly pros. In fact

I don’t know the rate of exchange or cost of living. Would $2000/mo
provide a confortable living?

  1. All depends on how do you understand this “comfortable living”. IMHO
    that’s highly personall so i cannot answer :slight_smile:
  2. It’s enough for me.
  3. In order to get this salary, you must be skilled motivated engineer.

At least from my [quite little] personal experience, rarely people need
“just a kewl software developer”. Engineer + scientificant + architector +
manager + programmer + lot of energy = all-in-one. If it’s so, you can get
much more then this little $2000/m. But no one need a “just programmer”. At
least - for this salary. $400…600 and you’r working as a “just a
programmer” [read as coder/implementor]. Well, maybe some offshore companies
working with west custimers, but afaiu you guys have some problems atm in
your economy growth so as a result offshore comps also feel a strong hit :frowning:

ps: IMHO and from my experience. That dosn’t mean it’s actually The Truth
or common among the whole coutnry/industry/etc. Just mine view.

// wbr

Hello,
I was talking about your last sentence:

‘Imagine all that could be
acheive if nobody was doing thing for money, oh well probably nothing…’

I think lot of people from the Linux community and even in lot of other domains, do a large amount of work without waiting for money.

Alain.



Mario Charest a écrit:

“Alain Bonnefoy” <> alain.bonnefoy@icbt.com> > wrote in message


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Hi Mario,



Hello,



Strange end of comment from you!





I hope you are wrong, and looking at the Linux community, I think it’s not


YET the case!

Can you clarify I’m not sure I understand your comment.

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