The “Getting Started with QNX Neutrino 2” book is now out of print, there
are limited quantities (< 100) available through PARSE and distribution.
If anyone is interested, rights (exclusive, all languages except for Japanese
and Russian) are available for sale, contact rk@parse.com for more info.
Cheers,
-RK
[xpost to comp.os.qnx, qdn.cafe]
Robert Krten wrote:
The “Getting Started with QNX Neutrino 2” book is now out of print, there
are limited quantities (< 100) available through PARSE and distribution.If anyone is interested, rights (exclusive, all languages except for Japanese
and Russian) are available for sale, contact > rk@parse.com > for more info.
That was a good book. All our people have copies. It’s sad to
see the last third-party QNX book disappear.
John Nagle
Team Overbot
John Nagle <nagle@downside.com> wrote:
Robert Krten wrote:
The “Getting Started with QNX Neutrino 2” book is now out of print, there
are limited quantities (< 100) available through PARSE and distribution.If anyone is interested, rights (exclusive, all languages except for Japanese
and Russian) are available for sale, contact > rk@parse.com > for more info.That was a good book. All our people have copies. It’s sad to
see the last third-party QNX book disappear.
“second last” – the Cookbook still has 800 copies left before it’s in danger 
Cheers,
-RK
John Nagle wrote:
That was a good book. All our people have copies. It’s sad to
see the last third-party QNX book disappear.
The Cookbook is still alive, AFAIK.
–
Chris Herborth (cherborth@qnx.com)
Never send a monster to do the work of an evil scientist.
Why do not print another batch? Not enough interest?
“Robert Krten” <rk@parse.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:d5qfh4$2hb$3@inn.qnx.com…
The “Getting Started with QNX Neutrino 2” book is now out of print, there
are limited quantities (< 100) available through PARSE and distribution.If anyone is interested, rights (exclusive, all languages except for
Japanese
and Russian) are available for sale, contact > rk@parse.com > for more info.Cheers,
-RK[xpost to comp.os.qnx, qdn.cafe]
Malte Mundt <mmundt@qnx.de> wrote:
Why do not print another batch? Not enough interest?
Correct. Since posting this a few weeks ago, I’ve sold 2 books.
I figure the < 100 that are left are a year’s supply at this rate
In order to get a decent price on the printing, I would need to print
at least a run of 500.
Cheers,
-RK
“Robert Krten” <> rk@parse.com> > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:d5qfh4$2hb$> 3@inn.qnx.com> …
The “Getting Started with QNX Neutrino 2” book is now out of print, there
are limited quantities (< 100) available through PARSE and distribution.If anyone is interested, rights (exclusive, all languages except for
Japanese
and Russian) are available for sale, contact > rk@parse.com > for more info.Cheers,
-RK[xpost to comp.os.qnx, qdn.cafe]
If you had a flyer advertising the book, we could leave it at a customer
site after a visit, and include it when we send out our info folder. There
wasn’t much advertisement for your great books, and I think it would be a
pity if they were no longer available.
Malte
“Robert Krten” <rk@parse.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:d6ff5o$mv2$1@inn.qnx.com…
Malte Mundt <> mmundt@qnx.de> > wrote:
Why do not print another batch? Not enough interest?Correct. Since posting this a few weeks ago, I’ve sold 2 books.
I figure the < 100 that are left are a year’s supply at this rate >
In order to get a decent price on the printing, I would need to print
at least a run of 500.Cheers,
-RK“Robert Krten” <> rk@parse.com> > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:d5qfh4$2hb$> 3@inn.qnx.com> …
The “Getting Started with QNX Neutrino 2” book is now out of print,
there
are limited quantities (< 100) available through PARSE and
distribution.If anyone is interested, rights (exclusive, all languages except for
Japanese
and Russian) are available for sale, contact > rk@parse.com > for more
info.Cheers,
-RK[xpost to comp.os.qnx, qdn.cafe]
Malte Mundt <mmundt@qnx.de> wrote:
If you had a flyer advertising the book, we could leave it at a customer
site after a visit, and include it when we send out our info folder. There
wasn’t much advertisement for your great books, and I think it would be a
pity if they were no longer available.
I think my German distributor, Steinhoff Automation, has exactly what you are
looking for! Contact Jutta Steinhoff (jutta@steinhoff.de)…
The reason this was not done in the past is because I tried. I asked QNX to
let me advertise by renting their mailing lists. Shot down.
I asked QNX to let me advertise by including flyers in the product boxes
going out of QNX. Nope. I asked QNX how a third party was supposed to
advertise to the customer base – nothing useful ever came out of this. Hence
I gave up. Unfortunately, what became clear over time that QNX was just not
interested in helping out small third-party vendors.
Cheers,
-RK
Malte
“Robert Krten” <> rk@parse.com> > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:d6ff5o$mv2$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Malte Mundt <> mmundt@qnx.de> > wrote:
Why do not print another batch? Not enough interest?Correct. Since posting this a few weeks ago, I’ve sold 2 books.
I figure the < 100 that are left are a year’s supply at this rate >
In order to get a decent price on the printing, I would need to print
at least a run of 500.Cheers,
-RK“Robert Krten” <> rk@parse.com> > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:d5qfh4$2hb$> 3@inn.qnx.com> …
The “Getting Started with QNX Neutrino 2” book is now out of print,
there
are limited quantities (< 100) available through PARSE and
distribution.If anyone is interested, rights (exclusive, all languages except for
Japanese
and Russian) are available for sale, contact > rk@parse.com > for more
info.Cheers,
-RK[xpost to comp.os.qnx, qdn.cafe]
“Robert Krten” <rk@parse.com> wrote in message
news:d6fk12$q5d$1@inn.qnx.com…
Malte Mundt <> mmundt@qnx.de> > wrote:
If you had a flyer advertising the book, we could leave it at a customer
site after a visit, and include it when we send out our info folder.
There
wasn’t much advertisement for your great books, and I think it would be a
pity if they were no longer available.I think my German distributor, Steinhoff Automation, has exactly what you
are
looking for! Contact Jutta Steinhoff (> jutta@steinhoff.de> )…The reason this was not done in the past is because I tried. I asked QNX
to
let me advertise by renting their mailing lists. Shot down.
I asked QNX to let me advertise by including flyers in the product boxes
going out of QNX. Nope. I asked QNX how a third party was supposed to
advertise to the customer base – nothing useful ever came out of this.
Hence
I gave up. Unfortunately, what became clear over time that QNX was just
not
interested in helping out small third-party vendors.
Same story for me. Funny cause I once downloaded VxWork for evaluation and
during a year or so I received flyers of third-party product for VxWork.
The flyers came from WindRiver.
Cheers,
-RKMalte
“Robert Krten” <> rk@parse.com> > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:d6ff5o$mv2$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Malte Mundt <> mmundt@qnx.de> > wrote:
Why do not print another batch? Not enough interest?Correct. Since posting this a few weeks ago, I’ve sold 2 books.
I figure the < 100 that are left are a year’s supply at this rate >
In order to get a decent price on the printing, I would need to print
at least a run of 500.Cheers,
-RK“Robert Krten” <> rk@parse.com> > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:d5qfh4$2hb$> 3@inn.qnx.com> …
The “Getting Started with QNX Neutrino 2” book is now out of print,
there
are limited quantities (< 100) available through PARSE and
distribution.If anyone is interested, rights (exclusive, all languages except
for
Japanese
and Russian) are available for sale, contact > rk@parse.com > for more
info.Cheers,
-RK[xpost to comp.os.qnx, qdn.cafe]
\
Can’t you guys figure this out already after so many years. We should be
thankful we even got a chance to get to know QNX. What an ungrateful bunch
of hagglers we are 
“Mario Charest” postmaster@127.0.0.1 wrote in message
news:d6fl5f$r7p$1@inn.qnx.com…
“Robert Krten” <> rk@parse.com> > wrote in message
news:d6fk12$q5d$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Malte Mundt <> mmundt@qnx.de> > wrote:
If you had a flyer advertising the book, we could leave it at a customer
site after a visit, and include it when we send out our info folder.
There
wasn’t much advertisement for your great books, and I think it would be
a
pity if they were no longer available.I think my German distributor, Steinhoff Automation, has exactly what you
are
looking for! Contact Jutta Steinhoff (> jutta@steinhoff.de> )…The reason this was not done in the past is because I tried. I asked QNX
to
let me advertise by renting their mailing lists. Shot down.
I asked QNX to let me advertise by including flyers in the product boxes
going out of QNX. Nope. I asked QNX how a third party was supposed to
advertise to the customer base – nothing useful ever came out of this.
Hence
I gave up. Unfortunately, what became clear over time that QNX was just
not
interested in helping out small third-party vendors.Same story for me. Funny cause I once downloaded VxWork for evaluation
and
during a year or so I received flyers of third-party product for VxWork.
The flyers came from WindRiver.
Cheers,
-RKMalte
“Robert Krten” <> rk@parse.com> > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:d6ff5o$mv2$> 1@inn.qnx.com> …
Malte Mundt <> mmundt@qnx.de> > wrote:
Why do not print another batch? Not enough interest?Correct. Since posting this a few weeks ago, I’ve sold 2 books.
I figure the < 100 that are left are a year’s supply at this rate >
In order to get a decent price on the printing, I would need to print
at least a run of 500.Cheers,
-RK“Robert Krten” <> rk@parse.com> > schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:d5qfh4$2hb$> 3@inn.qnx.com> …
The “Getting Started with QNX Neutrino 2” book is now out of
print,
there
are limited quantities (< 100) available through PARSE and
distribution.If anyone is interested, rights (exclusive, all languages except
for
Japanese
and Russian) are available for sale, contact > rk@parse.com > for more
info.Cheers,
-RK[xpost to comp.os.qnx, qdn.cafe]
\
Robert Krten <rk@parse.com> wrote:
The reason this was not done in the past is because I tried. I asked QNX to
let me advertise by renting their mailing lists. Shot down.
I asked QNX to let me advertise by including flyers in the product boxes
going out of QNX. Nope. I asked QNX how a third party was supposed to
advertise to the customer base – nothing useful ever came out of this. Hence
I gave up. Unfortunately, what became clear over time that QNX was just not
interested in helping out small third-party vendors.
For what it’s worth, we do include your sample chapters in the online docs.
Robert Krten <rk@parse.com> wrote:
Malte Mundt <> mmundt@qnx.de> > wrote:
The reason this was not done in the past is because I tried. I asked QNX to
let me advertise by renting their mailing lists. Shot down.
I asked QNX to let me advertise by including flyers in the product boxes
going out of QNX. Nope. I asked QNX how a third party was supposed to
advertise to the customer base – nothing useful ever came out of this. Hence
I gave up. Unfortunately, what became clear over time that QNX was just not
interested in helping out small third-party vendors.
FWIW, I recommend your books to most of the students I teach, and they’re
mentioned as reference material in the course notes in a few places.
David Gibbs
QNX Training Services
dagibbs@qnx.com
Steve Reid wrote:
Robert Krten <> rk@parse.com> > wrote:
The reason this was not done in the past is because I tried. I asked QNX to
let me advertise by renting their mailing lists. Shot down.
I asked QNX to let me advertise by including flyers in the product boxes
going out of QNX. Nope. I asked QNX how a third party was supposed to
advertise to the customer base – nothing useful ever came out of this. Hence
I gave up. Unfortunately, what became clear over time that QNX was just not
interested in helping out small third-party vendors.
For what it’s worth, we do include your sample chapters in the online docs.
That’s only interesting for ‘insider’ which have already QNX6.
IMHO … it is also interesting for other developers to buy at first a
book about QNX6 in oder to get an impression and to decide to buy or not
to buy QNX.
So marketing for Rob’s book is also an effective marketing for QNX6.
But this seems to be too hard to understand?
–Armin
Steve Reid > stever@qnx.com
TechPubs (Technical Publications)
QNX Software Systems
Steve Reid <stever@sreid.ott.qnx.com> wrote:
Robert Krten <> rk@parse.com> > wrote:
The reason this was not done in the past is because I tried. I asked QNX to
let me advertise by renting their mailing lists. Shot down.
I asked QNX to let me advertise by including flyers in the product boxes
going out of QNX. Nope. I asked QNX how a third party was supposed to
advertise to the customer base – nothing useful ever came out of this. Hence
I gave up. Unfortunately, what became clear over time that QNX was just not
interested in helping out small third-party vendors.For what it’s worth, we do include your sample chapters in the online docs.
Yes, and even that is (unfortunately) a can of worms Without
getting too deeply into the specifics, QSS is contractually obligated
to include it, and even so it was missed on several releases and betas,
and moved from what I consider a prominent place (the helpview main
index) to a more obscure place. Granted, even I’ll admit that having
the default helpviewer window open up with the book was a little over
the edge but taking it out of the helpview index is a vast
downgrade in visibility…
Nothing against you, Steve (as I trust you know), just sharing (more)
blunt observations…
Cheers,
-RK
David Gibbs <dagibbs@qnx.com> wrote:
Robert Krten <> rk@parse.com> > wrote:
Malte Mundt <> mmundt@qnx.de> > wrote:The reason this was not done in the past is because I tried. I asked QNX to
let me advertise by renting their mailing lists. Shot down.
I asked QNX to let me advertise by including flyers in the product boxes
going out of QNX. Nope. I asked QNX how a third party was supposed to
advertise to the customer base – nothing useful ever came out of this. Hence
I gave up. Unfortunately, what became clear over time that QNX was just not
interested in helping out small third-party vendors.FWIW, I recommend your books to most of the students I teach, and they’re
mentioned as reference material in the course notes in a few places.
I do appreciate that, Dave! And, I do sell a reasonable quantity of books
to/through QSSL. However, at the current burn rate, 500 would still be
a > 2 year supply, though 
Cheers,
-RK
Robert Krten <rk@parse.com> wrote:
Yes, and even that is (unfortunately) a can of worms >
getting too deeply into the specifics, QSS is contractually obligated
to include it, and even so it was missed on several releases and betas,
I remember adding it to CVS and the docs’ Makefile, to make sure that that
wouldn’t happen again.
and moved from what I consider a prominent place (the helpview main
index) to a more obscure place. Granted, even I’ll admit that having
the default helpviewer window open up with the book was a little over
the edge >
downgrade in visibility…
It’s still there: Getting Started With QNX Neutrino 2, but as you say,
it isn’t at the top. In my system, Dinkum, the DDKs, and various BSPs
come before it. Perhaps you should have started the title with
“Aardvark” or “AAAA” like companies in the phone book.
We also recommend your books – complete with ISBN and your website –
in the Welcome to QNX Momentics guide.
Nothing against you, Steve (as I trust you know), just sharing (more)
blunt observations…
Yes, I know – I quite enjoy working with you.
QSSL can’t afford to lose those books.
“The automotive industry is choosing Linux because it offers vendor
neutrality, lower cost of entry and faster time to market. There are
more Linux developers becoming available on the market and the
‘time-to-debug’ is usually much less,” – Glenn Seiler, director of
product marketing at MontaVista Software, am embedded Linux vendor,
in March 2005.
Read that carefully. The automotive sector, the
remaining major market area for QNX, is being targeted by
an embedded Linux vendor. And a major selling point is
that more people know how to develop for Linux. Yet
QSSL is about to let the last books on how to develop for
QNX disappear.
Remember, you can’t let the inside sales people set long
term policy. Commission salespeople have a time horizon
no longer than their commission cycle. If the product
declines, they’ll go sell something else. QSSL’s strategy
of focusing on the customers likely to generate large
commissions in the near term has resulted in a narrower and
narrower market slice for QNX. Retail POS systems are gone,
Internet appliances are gone, and industrial automation
is going. What’s left besides sales to a few automotive
suppliers, Cisco, and internal sales to Harman?
For that matter, what Harman products
actually use QNX? Harman has several Windows CE products co-developed
with Microsoft, including the Take Control remote and
the Auto PC. HiQnet, Harman’s network control system
for pro audio, is Windows-based. But what uses QNX?
Perhaps the QSSL acquisition was just a move
to get better prices from Microsoft on Windows CE.
John Nagle
Downside
John Nagle wrote:
For that matter, what Harman products
actually use QNX? Harman has several Windows CE products co-developed
with Microsoft, including the Take Control remote and
the Auto PC. HiQnet, Harman’s network control system
for pro audio, is Windows-based. But what uses QNX?
http://www.harmanbecker.com/harmanBecker/www_root/index2.jsp?language=US
cheers,
Kris
Kris Warkentin <kewarken@qnx.com> wrote:
John Nagle wrote:
For that matter, what Harman products
actually use QNX? Harman has several Windows CE products co-developed
with Microsoft, including the Take Control remote and
the Auto PC. HiQnet, Harman’s network control system
for pro audio, is Windows-based. But what uses QNX?http://www.harmanbecker.com/harmanBecker/www_root/index2.jsp?language=US
I see no QNX here:
HARMAN/BECKER introduces your car to a world of fascinating possibilities
through the development of customized automotive systems that enhance
your driving experience. Drawing upon world-class technology from
Becker?, harman/kardon?, Infinity?, JBL?, Mark Levinson? und Lexicon?,
HARMAN/BECKER integrates complete entertainment, information and
communication systems.
So, QNX is either not “world-class technology”, or it’s just lumped into
“information and communication systems”. Must be more brilliant
marketing
Or… perhaps you meant that I should use the “Search” box for QNX?
If so, it’s even more embarrassing:
Search Term: qnx
Your search did not match any documents !
Sorry, don’t understand how your URL answers the “which products use QNX”
question…???
Cheers,
-RK
John Nagle wrote:
Kris Warkentin wrote:
John Nagle wrote:
For that matter, what Harman products
actually use QNX? Harman has several Windows CE products co-developed
with Microsoft, including the Take Control remote and
the Auto PC. HiQnet, Harman’s network control system
for pro audio, is Windows-based. But what uses QNX?
http://www.harmanbecker.com/harmanBecker/www_root/index2.jsp?language=US
I can’t find any reference to QNX there.I put “QNX” in the search box there, and got back
Search Term: QNX
Your search did not match any documents!
You asked a question, I gave you an answer. The fact that you found
nothing on the website only means that I probably should have kept my
mouth shut, not that I’m wrong. You were speculating as to which
divisions of Harman might have use for QNX technology and I showed you one.
cheers,
Kris